Britney Spears: Artist Discussion

[Keelzit]

Everything about Blackout's aesthetic is exactly what I'd do for my Emancipation kind-of album as a fully grown adult who's tired of the shenanigans. Campy, tacky, messy, unpolished, the list goes on. I was too young to realize back in the day but now I'm just in awe of how perfectly it captures how I viewed the world a few years ago during my mid 20s. I don't think those choices were intentional but somehow that's even more iconic.

[gomichaelgo]

The new Toxic remix with Elvis is pretty good. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I guess this was in the film?

[thezatch]

Jan 6, 2023 11:49:40 GMT -5 gomichaelgo said:

The new Toxic remix with Elvis is pretty good. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I guess this was in the film?

Yeah, it plays during a montage leading up to his Vegas residency. Funny enough, I just watched the movie again on Monday and wondered when this mash-up would surface. The director Baz Luhrman was really passionate about it being released. Britney's hardly in it though.

[Relaxing Cup]

http://instagram.com/p/CnFtwgmSUIJ

[thezatch]

LMAO. I'm NOT surprised she's been posting like crazy today. Jamie Lynn probably stirred the pot this week in an interview promoting that show about has-been celebrities being put through extreme challenges or whatever that she's on. I have no interest giving her the ratings, the clicks, etc. to check it out.

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Praying all is well . Just seen this.

[Koochie]

She needs a support group to help her make responsible decisions (on her terms). I'm concerned she doesn't have one. Now that public opinion has shifted from active support to passive interest, I worry this could turn into another 2007.

[think pink.]

Yeah, I’m already seeing the “maybe the cship was needed” narrative 🙄.

The cship is what further caused her mental health to deteriorate but I digress.

It seems like she truly has no one and that worries me.

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Everyone is watching to see if she falls and fails now so they can justify that she is "crazy" that pressure alone is enough to make someone break.

Here me out I dont think she owes the public anything but I noticed when Mariah announced her Bipolar disorder to the world publicly it suddenly deaded the public discourse on her mental stability or why is she acting like this. I think Britney's seclusion and secrecy is letting speculation run amok and you cant fight perspective

[rnb]

i hope she gets help or some comfort after this, i can tell she does not from this

[Koochie]

The "c-ship was needed" talking point was there before it was even terminated. It was detrimental to her physical and psychological health. It's directly responsible for her isolation and impacted her aversion to treatment.

Jan 14, 2023 15:43:48 GMT -5 @pma2015 said:

Here me out I dont think she owes the public anything but I noticed when Mariah announced her Bipolar disorder to the world publicly it suddenly deaded the public discourse on her mental stability or why is she acting like this. I think Britney's seclusion and secrecy is letting speculation run amok and you cant fight perspective

I agree, but I think it's more complicated than that. Mariah and Britney have had very different experiences with mental health. I've spoken before about how the speculation does her no favors and coming forward would put a stop to it, but the decision to do that is hers alone.

[Daenerys]

For all the writing, work and sweat behind the TMZ publicity team created to smear Britney, I actually don't think Britney's standing has worsened in the public eye. They've thrown everything at Britney lately (kids, siblings, parents, ex-husbands) to try and diminish her and her brand, but I still see Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, Tik Tok, and other social sites championing her and coming to her defense against those people. There's in general just a lot of appreciation of her, and her work - I think nostalgia is working in her favor here. There's been pretty substantial praise around her past performances, Hold Me Closer, and of course Toxic since the end of the conservatorship.

Whatever impact TMZ is going for isn't resonating the same way it did in 07, and their mudslinging doesn't have the effect that Jamie, Kevin, Jamie Lynn, and whoever else think it does. People are going to rally around the artist's talent, and work. We've seen that time and time again with Janet, Michael, Whitney, and now I think we are seeing it with Britney. TMZ's old playbook from 2005-2007, isn't working in the age of social media.

To me her relationship with the press isn't unlike that of Harry and Meghan's specifically with the British Rota and Press. They will do all they can to tear her down, but that's because what was done to Britney was despicable and violates basic human rights. She benefits from the beginning and as the default standing as the facts are presented. It's going to take significant proof to undermine her words and standing. This creates a great amount of goodwill with the public. Even if she does herself no favors with some of her Instagram and twitter postings.

The only thing I wish she would do is hire a PR and Social Media team. But I also know she may not like the governance that surrounds all of that. She likely prefers the simplicity that comes with just posting whatever she likes from her phone, and letting the chips fall where they may.

Either way having a real team around her again could only benefit her, so they could fight TMZ and whoever else at their own level. Right now, TMZ and everyone related to them are fighting her in a more or less coordinated fashion, trying to chip away at her credibility and using whatever reaction she has as fodder to justify themselves and their past actions. Her firing back on Twitter isn't a strategy, it's just reaction that further feeds the narrative. It's time for her to work smarter in this area. It's been a year since it's ended. She could easily end this war, if she just stepped back and used the devices afforded to her.

I really hope she goes all out in her book. That should be her number one priority right now.

[Eqbk]

[It's me, bitch.]

I can’t believe fans called the police to go to Britney’s home after she deleted Instagram. Here is the Zillow listing for her home.

www.zillow.com/homedetails/2300-White-Stallion-Rd-Thousand-Oaks-CA-91361/16474669_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

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[think pink.]

I hope she stays off social media. Deactivating her Instagram was a good idea.

[Daenerys]

That note makes me think she has a PR/Social Media person hired on her team (and that more importantly she is using them), which is great news.

[Daenerys]

Honestly, I don't think there is much she can do about conspiracy theorists at this point. It's a pass time people love indulging in, and they span the gamut between crazed disinformation, and harmless laughs. It's effecting all artists at this point and is just an outgrowth of the 'illuminati' conspiracies that existed in the early 00's to the even more crazed ones such as Tupac is still alive somewhere, and Pizza-gate.

Some artists have found ways to capitalize off it like Taylor and Miley, but there are also those who it is a nuisance for (Beyonce).

There's no way to really eradicate or divest the capital people put into conspiracy theories, so I think the best course of action is just to ignore it, and then escalate it to law enforcement if it persists and becomes intrusive.

[Koochie]

Chris Crocker was a prophet among men when they said “leave Britney alone,” huh.

TMZ is still under Lou Taylor’s thumb, so the spin doesn’t surprise me. Having said that, I still don’t really retract my statement about her needing support, but I’m glad Sam stepped up, as her husband, to defend her without her having to need to. Some people wouldn’t believe her if she did unfortunately, but those same people are also going to spin this as Sam being malicious… somehow.

Anyway, I’m team mind my business and will continue to do so indefinitely.

[Daenerys]

There are some rumors floating around that Britney's book is aiming for a summer release this year, and that she is trying to make some moves regarding her music career.

Reportedly she wants out of her contract with RCA and wants to have more creative control and independence before she even steps foot in a studio again for solo work.

[thezatch]

Jan 28, 2023 21:18:27 GMT -5 Daenerys said:

There are some rumors floating around that Britney's book is aiming for a summer release this year, and that she is trying to make some moves regarding her music career.

Reportedly she wants out of her contract with RCA and wants to have more creative control and independence before she even steps foot in a studio again for solo work.

I don’t blame her one bit for wanting to get out from under RCA. They have proven time and time again that they have no idea what they’re doing when it comes to promo for their artists.

Did Glory complete her contract with them that they inherited from Jive or did she sign something else with them after the end of the Femme Fatale era? If not RCA, what label would be a good fit for her this far into her career?

[bat1990]

Columbia has done wonders building hype for Adele and Miley in recent releases. Perhaps that would be an easy switch since both are under Sony.

[Relaxing Cup]

Sam is not to be trusted, clearly enabling her and only there for a check. I just feel bad for her,
, reminds me a lot of Anna Nicole Smiths

[Daenerys]

Jan 28, 2023 22:20:14 GMT -5 thezatch said:

Jan 28, 2023 21:18:27 GMT -5 Daenerys said:

I don’t blame her one bit for wanting to get out from under RCA. They have proven time and time again that they have no idea what they’re doing when it comes to promo for their artists.

Did Glory complete her contract with them that they inherited from Jive or did she sign something else with them after the end of the Femme Fatale era? If not RCA, what label would be a good fit for her this far into her career?

I have no real idea what her contract status is, I know back when she signed with Jive, she originally did it for five records, and then she resigned with them again for another 3. I don't know how her remix packages and greatest hits factor into those agreements. 

When Jive dissolved, whatever contract she signed with them was absorbed into RCA. I think she may have signed some kind of 360 deal during her residency though, which is probably why they called it quits after two singles for both Britney Jean and Glory. They cut their losses and likely used the proceeds from her grosses from Piece of Me to off-set any expenses the album incurred to pay themselves back.

Given Britney's previous problems with control due to the conservatorship and the studio interference which plagued a number of her albums in the past it wouldn't surprise me if she just wanted to go independent. Columbia or Sony just managing her may be the best compromise between her wanting artistic control, and them just doing the promotion for her work, and charging a fee for it.  

[schnetzka]

I don't want to be a downer but I really don't know if Britney will ever release music again. I'm shocked enough that we got "Hold Me Closer" but based on some things she has said - I'm not sure she wants to put herself back out there in the public eye.

[Ivy Leegue™]

With fans who are more toxic than haters, who could blame her? I would retire and get fucked for life by Sam AsGHADri, too, if I were her.

[Koochie]

I believe she’s still obligated to release at least one more album under RCA. Glory was not RCA’s fault, not that I’m defending them, but with what we know behind the scenes there was no real path forward for that album.

She’s expressed interest in recording again. I don’t think we would have gotten “Hold Me Closer” if she was that opposed to it. Elton did say she was scared about how the public would receive it, but it was a critical and commercial success. I don’t think she cares about RCA (or getting hits) and I don’t think they really care about what she releases either. I wouldn’t put a lot of stock into those rumors.

I definitely don’t believe the rumors about the book. She’s said upfront that she doesn’t want to do interviews or write a book. Being paid to share her story doesn’t sit right with her. It’s possible she changed her mind, but there’s no way a book would be ready by this Summer unless it was incredibly rushed.

[Daenerys]

Jan 29, 2023 17:56:07 GMT -5 Koochie said:

I definitely don’t believe the rumors about the book. She’s said upfront that she doesn’t want to do interviews or write a book. Being paid to share her story doesn’t sit right with her. It’s possible she changed her mind, but there’s no way a book would be ready by this Summer unless it was incredibly rushed.

The book rumor is the one that I felt was pretty solid. There's suspicion that the book is already done, it's just in the process of being fact-checked and edited given what Britney is accusing multiple people in the industry of. There may be some re-writes of what she's already written that she's been asked to further develop or clarify but given the book deal was announced in February of last year, I think summer would check out.

She likely had portions of it already written if they were willing to give her a $15 million advance for it. An August release would be a year and a half from the announcement. I believe Simon & Schuster originally wanted the book out by this past December, but given paper shortages, and maybe competition from Prince Harry's memoir launching in the new year they pushed it back. 

I also do think she wants to record in some capacity, she wouldn't have recorded Hold Me Closer if she didn't want to do something in the near future. She also is supposed to have recorded for the Weekend's Idol, and she's been in contact with a few producers and DJ's to at least explore possible collaborations. Rosengart, shared that she is in talks concerning a number of possible future projects. 

[Koochie]

Jan 29, 2023 19:34:04 GMT -5 Daenerys said:

Jan 29, 2023 17:56:07 GMT -5 Koochie said:

I definitely don’t believe the rumors about the book. She’s said upfront that she doesn’t want to do interviews or write a book. Being paid to share her story doesn’t sit right with her. It’s possible she changed her mind, but there’s no way a book would be ready by this Summer unless it was incredibly rushed.

The book rumor is the one that I felt was pretty solid. There's suspicion that the book is already done, it's just in the process of being fact-checked and edited given what Britney is accusing multiple people in the industry of. There may be some re-writes of what she's already written that she's been asked to further develop or clarify but given the book deal was announced in February of last year, I think summer would check out.

I actually had it wrong, she never explicitly stated she didn’t want to write a book. That said, in the deleted YouTube video from August ‘22, she said she thought it was “silly” to be paid to tell her story. She also referenced that she has a lot of money on the table for sit-down interviews and other opportunities to do so, but that she didn’t want it. Signing a $15 million book deal doesn’t really make sense if that’s really how she feels.

Forbes isn’t the end all, be all of journalism either. All eyes were on Britney last Feb. and it benefits traffic to run a story about Britney. The article also clearly states it’s alleged by another publication. ETA: there are also conflicting reports that state she hadn’t signed yet and was only in talks.

Based on the timeline between her having stated in August that she’s not interested in financial compensation and now, I find it very hard to believe that she finished a book and it’s slated for a Summer release. They’d need promo materials, excerpts, cover designers, editors, review copies, fact checkers, legal rights, Britney’s approval (if she didn’t write it), etc. It’s not unheard of for trained writers to have a book on the shelves in 9 months, but those are usually low-profile authors or series-writers with a contract that has all of the logistics worked out well in advance. For reference: Mariah’s memoir took over two years to complete and she had another writer do so.

TL;DR I have 0 confidence in a book release. I’d welcome being proven wrong, but I’m also not holding my breath.

[Koochie]

Jan 29, 2023 15:12:20 GMT -5 Ivy Leegue™ said:

With fans who are more toxic than haters, who could blame her? I would retire and get f**ked for life by Sam AsGHADri, too, if I were her.

People are unfortunately very jealous and unfulfilled so they resort to tearing others, like Britney, down and instigating to feel superior. It’s very self-defeating. They do have my sympathies however as they can’t control their behavior. It is in my heart not to judge, but to understand.

Very symptomatic of Narcissistic Personality Disorder though. Checks enough qualifiers in the DSM, which Luckie Starchild can verify. As such, I wish these people well and can only hope they find insight. 😔