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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:10:22 GMT -5
We have two full days for something to come up though. I just think it's a bit much?
Anyway, let's isolate what's happened here: anyone have anything to make out of it? What do you like? What don't you like?
That's a question directed at everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:11:22 GMT -5
Also Surf, he's talking about the Big Brother Matt from page 1. But yes, my name is Matt lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:11:56 GMT -5
Anything, any analysis would help. Questions: Who is your predictions of scum? Reminder, there's only three in this game, at least from the brigades perspective. Come to think about it, any chance Matt's an indie?Anyways whose inactivity is the oddest to you: Az, Codex or Rocky? This is where I got that. Isn't Matt Kunt's real name? And I misread that QT comment The Matt I was referring to was the Matt of the brigade, as an indie.
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Post by surfy on Aug 3, 2014 22:13:18 GMT -5
Ohhhhh.... whoopsie! I just started watching Season 12 today, so please forgive me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:13:59 GMT -5
This is where I got that. Isn't Matt Kunt's real name? And I misread that QT comment The Matt I was referring to was the Matt of the brigade, as an indie. Yeah, I don't like this theory if only because it said he walked. So he wouldn't be in the house as an indie. I'm also just hoping there isn't an indie because I hate playing in games with indies, but there probably is since 3 brigade is mafia and a fourth scum for balance, being the indie. Sigh.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 3, 2014 22:15:15 GMT -5
#confusing
In real life Big Brother, what's the Brigade?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:15:37 GMT -5
It's expect the unexpected, which is why I'm kinda expecting that.
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Post by surfy on Aug 3, 2014 22:16:50 GMT -5
#confusing In real life Big Brother, what's the Brigade? From what I understand (from both posters here and the episodes I have watched so far) The Brigade was an alliance that formed in Season 12, I'm guessing they were evil or something along those lines (please no spoilers anyone!!!)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:17:02 GMT -5
It's expect the unexpected, which is why I'm kinda expecting that. The mods wouldn't lie though, at least in a non bastard game (and this is confirmed non bastard).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:17:17 GMT -5
#confusing In real life Big Brother, what's the Brigade? It was this alliance in season 12 consisting of Hayden Moss, Enzo Palumbo, Lane Elenburg and Matt Hoffman, not spoiling anything more than that for people that haven't watched the season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 22:20:55 GMT -5
Only open this if you have watched the season, otherwise don't be tempted. I honestly wish Enzo had won and not Hayden. Enzo was a much more lively character and played the game a lot better than Hayden and even formed the alliance, so he deserved it the most imo.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 3, 2014 22:43:07 GMT -5
Only open this if you have watched the season, otherwise don't be tempted. I honestly wish Enzo had won and not Hayden. Enzo was a much more lively character and played the game a lot better than Hayden and even formed the alliance, so he deserved it the most imo.
I wasn't going to watch either way, so it dont matter to me Is the whole game based around 12?
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 3, 2014 22:56:44 GMT -5
Only open this if you have watched the season, otherwise don't be tempted. I honestly wish Enzo had won and not Hayden. Enzo was a much more lively character and played the game a lot better than Hayden and even formed the alliance, so he deserved it the most imo.
I wasn't going to watch either way, so it dont matter to me Is the whole game based around 12? No, but the Brigade had four members, which given the likely ratio of town to scum this game, works out. This still would work with three. Also, they could be the scum because they did a good job at controlling the house. Anyways, on the sudden no RVS push. I like the direction this is heading in, but we do have two days as mentioned. Invince is giving me town vibes due to the fact that he is started the let's move out of RVS movement with an analysis. It makes him seem really willing to help town out. I don't really have any other reads so far.
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Post by popstop on Aug 3, 2014 22:58:00 GMT -5
I am going to try not to make judgments as quickly this game. I'd advise town to do the same thing - be a little fluid and not peg yourself down too early in your assumptions as to who is town and who isn't.
That said - some observations (no, still haven't gone back through the thread, trying to monitor the OTHER BB thread, which has the ORIGINAL Julie): - Surfboardt cites my lack of activity when he knows I've been on vacation for the last week. Side-eye. - Green Baron is more engaged this time on D1 - asking questions, which could be is a positive thing and keeping some convo going. - Coco seems more about kicking ass and taking names this time - much less RT, which could potentially indicate a motivation to help town.
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Post by surfy on Aug 3, 2014 22:59:27 GMT -5
Oh yeah, sorry Julie, I tend to forget what people are doing irl...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 23:51:44 GMT -5
#confusing In real life Big Brother, what's the Brigade? From what I understand (from both posters here and the episodes I have watched so far) The Brigade was an alliance that formed in Season 12, I'm guessing they were evil or something along those lines (please no spoilers anyone!!!)/quote] Nick's opening post for the thread more or less spoils this so don't yell at me for repeating it, but the Brigade was an alliance of four players who "did the unthinkable" and were the final four players of that season: So what this implies: 1. No one is lying about his or her flavor role (i.e. if someone is scum they're not going to 'flip' Hayden, Lane, Enzo, or Matt). Not that flavor ever really reveals anything about the game, but just putting that out there so everyone knows for sure to lay that idea to rest. 2. Since the Brigade worked together in season 12 to reach the end, it makes sense that the scum in this game is probably working together as well. 3. However, the Night 0 post says, "I have some unfortunate news. Matt has decided that he will not be joining his Brigade brothers this year. I'm sure he will be missed by all of you." So I had tentatively assumed it's one 'Brigade' team of four, but the Night 0 comment strongly hints at a three-team Brigade and an indie (this would represent Matt going rogue). 4. It would be fun if the 'twist' is that at endgame, the evicted players form a 'jury' (like on the show) and select an overall winner between the remaining unevicted players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 23:54:34 GMT -5
effing quote fails, argh! I'm going to post it again b/c it looks confusing when it's not quoted correctly. From what I understand (from both posters here and the episodes I have watched so far) The Brigade was an alliance that formed in Season 12, I'm guessing they were evil or something along those lines (please no spoilers anyone!!!) Nick's opening post for the thread more or less spoils this so don't yell at me for repeating it, but the Brigade was an alliance of four players who "did the unthinkable" and were the final four players of that season: So what this implies: 1. No one is lying about his or her flavor role (i.e. if someone is scum they're not going to 'flip' Hayden, Lane, Enzo, or Matt). Not that flavor ever really reveals anything about the game, but just putting that out there so everyone knows for sure to lay that idea to rest. 2. Since the Brigade worked together in season 12 to reach the end, it makes sense that the scum in this game is probably working together as well. 3. However, the Night 0 post says, "I have some unfortunate news. Matt has decided that he will not be joining his Brigade brothers this year. I'm sure he will be missed by all of you." So I had tentatively assumed it's one 'Brigade' team of four, but the Night 0 comment strongly hints at a three-team Brigade and an indie (this would represent Matt going rogue). 4. It would be fun if the 'twist' is that at endgame, the evicted players form a 'jury' (like on the show) and select an overall winner between the remaining unevicted players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 0:18:26 GMT -5
We have two full days for something to come up though. I just think it's a bit much? Anyway, let's isolate what's happened here: anyone have anything to make out of it? What do you like? What don't you like? That's a question directed at everyone. Are you talking about the back and forth between Surf and Baron? This isn't the only place where they've been bickering with each other; knowing that, I think this conclusively determines that they're not on the same team. If they were they'd be having this argument in the QT instead of OMGUSing each other in this thread. There is a comment Invince made several pages ago that I remember finding curious (it was something you'd pointed out) and I remember thinking it had me leaning town on Invince. I can't fully recall the comment now and should probably wait until I don't feel so drained to really go deep into analysis, but it was something to do with him talking about the results of the quiz. While I think it's a bit of a danger to rely on newbie-asking-newbie-questions-in-the-thread as a town tell (I was mafia the first time I ever played the game and pulled that card, and to a lesser extent Coco did the same last game), I do feel fairly town about Green Baron and all of his inquiries. Surf is hard to read because he has a natural, how should I say...earnestness that comes through no matter what he's posting about. I think some people might mistakenly interpret that as him trying to hard to look innocent, but I think that is just how he is as a person. So I'd put him in the gray area for now. ------ Codex hasn't responded to my question yet but I've probably gotten as much as I will out of GB and Invince (nice full read of the thread!) so I'll move on to another random question. This is an open question for anyone to answer. It's day 1, you know nothing, and you can only select one of the following four people to evict: Az, Kunt, Julie Chenstop, and myself. Who are you evicting and why? My own answer: probably Az, just by process of elimination. Obviously I'm not going to evict myself. popstop and Kunt are what I would call dangerous players - they're very analytical and thorough, which is a definite threat to scum if they're town...but an even bigger threat to non-scum players if they're scum, b/c they'll be very difficult to sniff out. I'd say they're the two who have a style most similar to my own (minus the whole scatterbrained thing) in that they're going to lay most, if not all, of their thoughts out on the table and push for responses. For this reason I'm instinctively leery of them but at the same time know they're invaluable if they're on town's side. Day 1 is always kind of a blind shot anyway, so I'd rather take out someone else than risk taking out one of these two. It's been a while since I've played mafia with Az so I don't remember much about his play now but I know he's super involved whenever he's in the green room lol. In the last game he was town, and I thought he was surprisingly a bit reserved when it came to his style. He plays with his cards close to his chest, which can make him a tougher nut to crack as scum but also means that he runs the risk of being outdone by other players who say/seem to contribute more to analysis and scumhunting.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 4, 2014 0:46:29 GMT -5
lmao @ invince.
Good analysis. I'd gladly quit the RVS bullshit because I don't like RVS and promoting it as a natural phase to be in is a waste of time...albeit necessary, I guess....
Anyway, I get internet (hopefully) on Tuesday so after then I'll be able to be fully invested in here.
Going back to Invince's RVS comment... it seems strange that he'd peg me (and others too apparently) of the RVS thing as if it were reason for suspicion, yet, nearly everyone is doing it. idgi
Also, fuck, end of day is in 2 days, so I'd be cutting it quote to wait until Tuesday to get fully invested... I will go through everything tomorrow and see if I can spot anything.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 4, 2014 2:09:10 GMT -5
O hai, sorry for my absence, Big Brother was doing some rather inappropriate poking around~ Seriously though, end of the weekend/Monday means back to uni for another week and I have assignments due mid-month already LOL.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 4, 2014 2:13:04 GMT -5
Remember last we heard of AZ was when he said he would get in my bed, he tried, I killed it. She walked *bang bang* into the room and I was dead. :'(
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 5:08:28 GMT -5
posting to avoid prod <3 wait I'll post something legit in a second
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 5:46:44 GMT -5
Had some time to seriously read over, although the high dude passed out on the couch and the dude talking about how America is going to cure Ebola is slightly distracting. - Lot's of RVS s**t. - Coco has been quiet as hell and hasn't been drawing attention to herself, which is unusual. Could just be her complete disinterest in the conversations going on though. - Drag and Invince are giving me "vibes", but Drag always gives me vibes and frankly so does Invince-- although the latter seems to have his s**t together better this game. - No idea what to make of Drag asking for a replacement, although if he was scum with Surf taking over we'll figure that out soon enough lol. - Green Baron's confusion on RVS and overeager attitude about voting people out it giving me pause, but I can't decide if I think it's town or scum. 2. "Unusual". She's played one game so far lol. I think she's just busy irl. 4. LOL. I have a feeling Kunt and Surf aren't scum partners, because what he said is completely true, and bringing more attention to Surf would be a bad idea. 5. I think the first part is reasonable, he gave no shits until like Day 3 last time, but I agree on the second part. Codex. what are your feelings on Green Baron and Invincible so far? Green Baron, how do you feel about Codex and Invincible? Invince, how do you feel about Codex and Green Baron? I think Green Baron's the Lahey of BB Mafia. So basically does nothing, regardless of alignment. Or at least that's what I'm thinking based on the 2 on topic posts he's had so far. Or if he's had more I'm trying to find them between the suicidal song lyrics and "drunk" posts (don't drink you're in middle school jesus, you don't want to end up like Josh) Green baron is the only person I KNOW will be town cause I dont think he'd really do well in that competition. This is still just.... really strange to me? Especially since Green Baron got like #3. Saving this for future reference in case one of them are scum, because it feels like he didn't think we'd say our ranks, and thought he could take some heat off of GB? Early predictions for scum anyone? I say Kunt, Coco and Codex That would be EPIC but could you elaborate? Vote Codex for also bandwagoning What I've cast like 1 vote, and it was for a legit reason You DO NOT vote dog shit over Britney and get away with it Plot twist: ry4n, kunt and codex are mafia~ Why did you replace Coco with Ryan? Why are you so anxious to get someone lynched? Vote: RockyThis is probably a lighthearted joke (mainly due to the Codex vs. Rocky question), but Rocky's hesitation feels scummy, while Codex's defense kind of gives off nervous Town (idk how long he played so newbie or not?) What hesitation?... Rocky
- looking now, his first vote wasn't Codex, which gives me scum teas, since he does that when he's town Codex
- Switches vote over to Rocky. (shocker) Anyway I like Invince's analysis, because it sums up literally everything that has happened so far = basically nothing. I'm pretty sure he's been mafia before, without asking for replacement. He's one of the oldest players. I don't like your analysis on him, it seems too harsh and one-sided for day 1... You mention some of the town things he's done, but only emphasize the "scummy" things. Green Baron I'd like to know why you're avoiding saying thoughts about Invince.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 4, 2014 9:08:18 GMT -5
Oh yeah Invince, lol I isolated Codex first and forgot to do Invince, I'll be on that in a second
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 4, 2014 9:32:09 GMT -5
Green baron is the only person I KNOW will be town cause I dont think he'd really do well in that competition. The hell does this mean? Getting scummy vibes from this because how else would you know I'm Town unless you're scum? He does some more RVS. Early predictions for scum anyone? I say Kunt, Coco and Codex Suspicious... If Invince turns out to be scum, then these could be his targets for a mislynch. Does some more RVS. Votes me to stop posting depressing song lyrics, so does everyone else Big post means he is invested in the game, whether that is Scum or Town has yet to be seen. He also made one more questionable post, but the isolating isn't 100% recent so I can't find it. I'll bring it up when I do though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 9:48:03 GMT -5
LMAO, it was a hunch based off me not seeing you do well in the comp, and i was obviously wrong, if I were in mafia w/you i would ask what place you got in. So that should make it obvious enough we're not aligned. I got a question for Zeebz: I see you're still voting me for rvs reasons, yet in your latest post, you think I'm town, but do not have reads on anyone else, I'm guessing you didn't realize your vote was on me or something? @mod: Were scum given safe claims? Max glad to see you're ready to move out of rvs. Codex it was entertaining reading your most recent post, I didn't elaborate off those earlier predictions because it was too early, but if you'd like me to elaborate on anything more recent, I'd be willing to. Cynthia, thank you for the props for my analysis. :) Town, let's go win this. Oh and Cynthia, so surf doesn't get everything spoiled, The brigade did not all make it final four, Matt was chopped off earlier and ended up getting in like seventh place. My character, Britney Haynes, got in 4th, but won 10,000 in a contest of hiding things while she was in the house, and 25,000 for being America's Favorite Houseguest. <3
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 4, 2014 9:52:09 GMT -5
@jf816 - Yeah, I do think you're town, and yeah, my vote was on you for RVS reasoning. I had no idea who my vote was on and I had meant to put an unvote on you. It was late, however, and I forgot. Unvote: Invince
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 9:53:44 GMT -5
Zebra, it's fine I was just wondering and wanting to clarify that with you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 9:53:57 GMT -5
I don't think Drag asking for replacement had anything to do with his mafia role. I think that's really reaching.
Invince, I like that you put in all that effort, but is there really that much analysis to make on useless RVS voting?
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 4, 2014 9:56:31 GMT -5
Zebra, it's fine I was just wondering and wanting to clarify that with you. Thank you for getting my attention focused on that matter. :)
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