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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 15:29:30 GMT -5
I'm not liking the Green Baron wagon, just putting it out there, it seems like too much of a convenient bandwagon. That said, I wouldn't mind putting pressure on him just to see what he does. I'm really thinking he's town at the moment, and I would suggest others look into him more, cause if you do you'll see that he's been asking questions, and seems fairly invested; which brings up a past point: If he were scum, don't ya think he'd be asking the questions he's asked in the thread in the Mafia QT instead? I'm not for his lyric posting, and I'm even more not for people voting him b/c of that now that were out of rvs, but people need to stop being lazy and actually look back at what's happened and form their own opinions through them. I'd like for @spiritanimal & Green Baron to put their votes on someone sooner than later if possible so it makes it easier to trace votes back to people. If people bothered to look back at things, I feel as if Surf/Drag should look scummier in people's eyes than Green Baron should. If people put their votes on people and got fairly close to a lynch, I may be willing to put pressure on that person, then maybe get a claim (which refers back to Green Baron's statement saying "shouldn't that be a last resort though"?) My answer to that is if someone is put in a lynch position, it is always best to get a claim from them before they are lynched disregarding any type of special powers that happen during a night phase. That being said, those special powers aren't even 100% reliable, as a cop report or something like that could always come out wrong if it's switched through a bus driver, and in other ways as well. So if we put pressure on someone, maybe we can get them to do something to determine our point of views on whether they're scum or town, I just need others to cooperate with this, for now I'm switching my vote to encourage others to move around as well, cause the more people we do this with, the better scum vibes/town vibes we could get from more people. I'm also not all that for lynching the inactives, as you really can't determine their alignment based on their activity level of all things, and it often leads to a mislynch, so I'm not jumping on an Az wagon for now. I'm gonna vote Rocky, cause of the people with votes, he's one I'd like to get pressure on. Vote: Rocky
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 15:40:40 GMT -5
Lol, my posts always come out as just a wall of words, don't they?
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 4, 2014 15:46:53 GMT -5
Lol, my posts always come out as just a wall of words, don't they? A little bit, but I like where you were going there. However, there isn't an Az wagon yet. I simply voted him so I can see where his head is at when he gets the chance and to have a vote on someone. I would like some pressure put on inactives, even though I agree with you that we shouldn't be exclusively focused on them.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 4, 2014 16:06:35 GMT -5
I'm currently in the process of switch apartments, and while I'm mostly moved I still have some cleaning and unpacking to do, so I'll be busy for the next few hours probably. I'll check in later. Same. But I'm trying to not let it be an excuse for my inactivity, even if it is the reason for it. Based on what I've seen so far, @jf816's analysis seems a bit far fetched for my liking and I'm thinking he dug for things that aren't really there, so it's reaching when it didn't need to be. But then Az' absence seems unlike him so unless he's moving (or something else) too, then it's worthy of something. I've learned over the last few game that inactivity is something to hide behind but it's not really a good reason to vote for someone unless it's causing that person to be completely useless and dead weight. So for now, I'm vote: @jf816Ps: why is Codex so silent? I think Kunt came up with something a game or two ago about his theory on Codex. When he's active, he's scum. When he's not, he's town? Has that actually been reliable? lmao
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 4, 2014 16:08:05 GMT -5
Honestly Surfboardt strikes me as the most scummy right now. And Rule #1 in my book: Do NOT go off of what role a person was in a previous game... just because I was mafia last game, DOES NOT mean that I am mafia this game! Comes off as a bit defensive to me. He then votes me for using 'spotty logic', whatever that means. Surf is leaning scum for me right now, and seems like the most scummy. The absent people are also of note, but don't lean as scummy as Surf since I have no info to base off. Also I don't like Rocky's out of nowhere bandwagon vote for me w/o explanation.
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Post by surfy on Aug 4, 2014 16:08:11 GMT -5
I am also suspicious of Invince, but not enough to place a vote on him just yet. And I didn't even know there was a bandwagon for Green Baron I just voted on suspicions, you shouldn't bring personal feelings into a mafia game (and how come I'm always the target of this? )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:08:12 GMT -5
ok
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 4, 2014 16:08:36 GMT -5
So Vote: Surf
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:12:18 GMT -5
Honestly Surfboardt strikes me as the most scummy right now. And Rule #1 in my book: Do NOT go off of what role a person was in a previous game... just because I was mafia last game, DOES NOT mean that I am mafia this game! Comes off as a bit defensive to me. He then votes me for using 'spotty logic', whatever that means. Surf is leaning scum for me right now, and seems like the most scummy. The absent people are also of note, but don't lean as scummy as Surf since I have no info to base off. Also I don't like Rocky's out of nowhere bandwagon vote for me w/o explanation. Yeah this post just sounds like bandwagoning on Surf to me. All you really said was "I think Surf is scum" five times. Vote: Green Baron
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:12:58 GMT -5
or three or four times. whatever
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:14:05 GMT -5
Just fyi, willing to lynch a possible town member (I am town, but this is from your pov's) who's contributing a lot more than other people seems like a scum type move, I'm not encouraging you Max to move your vote, but it seems a bit reaching to vote this early in the game for someone who is contributing a lot more than most people and is actually analyzing over everything. Just putting this out there.
I understand if you find my analysis scummy, but it'd be best if you'd wait till there's things to go off of before lynching one of the most contributing players, I'm saying this as a reference of my analysis, once 1 or 2 people have died, you could look back at it and decide from there, I'm just saying it doesn't seem like the best motive for a town player.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:14:23 GMT -5
right now we have so little to go on and activity and inactivity meant shit in the last game I played. I can exactly put my finger on it but from reading through three people stuck out, Green and Surf seem to have a natural scum vibe in how they play so not sure what to make of it right now. I will say that Invince seems to be doing the most to lead lynches based on what?
for now Vote: Invince
I played the scum acting like town before and played it well, I get a sense that is what he is doing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:16:38 GMT -5
Umm ok
Literally side-eying my own bandwagon.
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Post by surfy on Aug 4, 2014 16:16:40 GMT -5
Honestly Surfboardt strikes me as the most scummy right now. And Rule #1 in my book: Do NOT go off of what role a person was in a previous game... just because I was mafia last game, DOES NOT mean that I am mafia this game! Comes off as a bit defensive to me. He then votes me for using 'spotty logic', whatever that means. Isn't this game supposed to be defensive though? And you take personal things along with roles from previous games as basis for a conclusion, and it doesn't seem (to me) to be a smart strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:18:44 GMT -5
At least everybody has a vote down now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:19:25 GMT -5
Side-eying GB's bandwagon too tbch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:19:28 GMT -5
Umm ok Literally side-eying my own bandwagon. what bandwagon? you have two out of 13 votes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:20:08 GMT -5
Umm ok Literally side-eying my own bandwagon. what bandwagon? you have two out of 13 votes 3/14 actually, pretty sure kunts voting me too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:20:15 GMT -5
Just fyi, willing to lynch a possible town member (I am town, but this is from your pov's) who's contributing a lot more than other people seems like a scum type move, I'm not encouraging you Max to move your vote, but it seems a bit reaching to vote this early in the game for someone who is contributing a lot more than most people and is actually analyzing over everything. Just putting this out there. I understand if you find my analysis scummy, but it'd be best if you'd wait till there's things to go off of before lynching one of the most contributing players, I'm saying this as a reference of my analysis, once 1 or 2 people have died, you could look back at it and decide from there, I'm just saying it doesn't seem like the best motive for a town player. but yet you want to eliminate Surf?
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 4, 2014 16:20:37 GMT -5
Honestly Surfboardt strikes me as the most scummy right now. Comes off as a bit defensive to me. He then votes me for using 'spotty logic', whatever that means. Isn't this game supposed to be defensive though? And you take personal things along with roles from previous games as basis for a conclusion, and it doesn't seem (to me) to be a smart strategy. I didn't take personal things into consideration, although I probably shouldn't have said both statements in the same post. You're playing similar to how you played last game, and you were scum, just throwing that fact out that there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:21:14 GMT -5
Yeah Surf's done limited real talk, and mostly rvs. Better lynch than Green Baron imo.
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Post by popstop on Aug 4, 2014 16:22:40 GMT -5
Well, I was hoping to do some ISOing, but of course, once again, Pulse has decided to screw around with the search function. I can only ISO posts from Aug. 1 and before, which is just RVS stuff. Probably only the last few pages are worth reviewing anyhow since we seem to be past RVS. So, I;m going to go through the thread and make notes as I go... 1. I guess it's been awhile since I played mafia with Invince - I forgot about the constant stream of theories and craziness he throws out there. Invince, were you just kidding about Baron being town? I don't like your early OMGUS vote on Kunt, even if it is RVS. Kunt's point was valid, and you seem to be defending Baron a bit. Also, the spamming of this thread makes it very hard to focus - especially without the search function working. Grrr. 2. Speaking of Green Baron - as I mentioned already, he's much more active. Not sure if this indicates town as I originally believed, especially asking about RVS all over again. Maybe playing up the naivete? (Ugh, and now I see Kunt has already made that observation. Screw you, Kunt.) Also, Baron, you make a point of saying how active you are compared to last game, which feels a little like covering up. Hmmm... 3. So we have Brenchel in the game - I wonder if there's any sort of connection there? In the past, We had Brangelina in the last game - both town. We had Billary in the game before that - both town. Hmm, and they all begin with a "B"! :) 4. I've noticed that when a player is replaced, MOST of the time, the role has been town. The only exception in games I think I've played is Wot replacing Devin (another reason I was convinced Wot was town) in the last game. My theory is people are more bored with a town role than something else. Anyhow, Julian wishing good luck to town also on his exit also makes me think Surfy could be town. 5. Kunt says "this is why I hate being town" on page 8! Wow! I think that's the first time I've ever seen you just come out and say you were town. You usually like to be more subtle than that. Anyhow, even with your few points made on page 15, you seemed motivated to move the discussion past RVS. And you've continued trying to draw people out, even if the majority seem to be ignoring that, so that seems town of you. 6. Kunt mentioning Matt walking - ngl, I missed that in the OP - oops! I dunno the set-up then - Cynthia commented Matt could be an independent if this game has one. Or maybe chenbot and joshison added one of the Brigade minions from that season - oooh, maybe Ragan! Ugh, he was annoying. 7. Coco, I feel you are town based on what I said in my last post. Don't break my heart this time. 8. Cynthia, I love what you said about me because it's how I feel about you. <3 I am feeling the same way - if you are mafia, that would be very difficult because: 1)I've only seen you as town so I don't know what mafia Cynthia looks like; and 2) you are really good at observation, which makes me put my trust in you. (Kind of like I did with Wot last game </3). To answer your question regarding Ginger, Zebra, or Codex, I'm not sure I'd be up for saying I would save anyone outright at this point, but having seen Ginger now as both mafia and town, I know he is generally quiet either way, and that makes for a difficult read. He isn't changing up his game, so I guess I find him least suspicious. Zebra used to be quiet, but has learned to be more chatty and so now I can't read him at all - he's got mostly RVS stuff at the moment and so reads as a null to me. Codex always seems to start off slow and then get going later, and that always makes me suspicious of him, which is really frustrating because I think Codex is a good player, and he's not a good person to mislynch. I'm sorry about Pandemic, Codex! Of Az, you, Kunt, or me - well, I'm guessing Az also because he's done the least to further discussion - not that this means anything. I wish I could help Az change his gameplay (if he is town) because he manages to come off as scum in every game I play with him, which is why I picked him first as cop in the last game. For example, Az, coming in just to post that you're busy is weird. Cynthia, I am curious as to why you threw Az in that list since you mentioned similarities to you, me, and Kunt, but not Az. 9. Too much sex talk. And that's coming from Pulse's Thirstiest 2014. 10. How dare you accuse Julie Chen of having fake smiles, nick64Looking through my notes, I feel my strongest case is for Green Baron. I don't care if you think it's bandwagoning, Invince. Vote: Green Baron
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Post by popstop on Aug 4, 2014 16:23:04 GMT -5
OMG, word wall. I'm so sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:23:07 GMT -5
If there is a chance GB is scum, I think he's aligned w/ Kunt and Kunt has encouraged him to ask questions in the thread instead of qt so it doesn't sound like he knows everything.
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Post by surfy on Aug 4, 2014 16:23:19 GMT -5
Yeah Surf's done limited real talk, and mostly rvs. Better lynch than Green Baron imo. Okay, I've only been playing for what, two days now? Like are you f**king kidding me, literally nothing has happened, and I've answered all questions asked to me, hell, I even came up with some questions (that no one answered ) I don't know what else you want from me?!?!?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:23:35 GMT -5
Omg, yay popstop!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:24:04 GMT -5
Cynthia, I'll answer your other question. Out of that bunch I would have picked Az. His inactivity strikes me as odd, even if he has uni. He just seems to be slipping between the cracks and at worst in that situation we would remove an inactive townie. However, since he has been so busy I need to hear more from him. FOS on Zebra too, only reason is because AZ was super quiet last game and he was town, nothing out of ordinary. I know we are all grasping for straws right now but that argument on AZ seems weak. Just making note of it and seeing if others read into it what i do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:25:16 GMT -5
what bandwagon? you have two out of 13 votes 3/14 actually, pretty sure kunts voting me too. well 13, since im pretty sure you're not voting for yourself!
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Post by surfy on Aug 4, 2014 16:26:09 GMT -5
OMG, word wall. I'm so sorry. I don't know why everyone apologizes for this. I see it as a wall of information! Which is a very good thing in this game!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:27:14 GMT -5
Speaking of this run on Green baron, he is easy to accuse of scum, i did it all game last time because he comes off that way in the game. So side eying some off the people jumping on him so early.
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