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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:48:57 GMT -5
Ok maybe it was a mistake to try and force him to claim.
Anyways, my motive behind it was to see if he gave some type of bullshit claim, as he's a rather new player that we could reference later on in the game, much like Surf's claim as town watcher in the last game with nick really having that role (that was a horrible claim).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:54:35 GMT -5
Codex, I love your signature. <3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:56:46 GMT -5
Codex's signature is awesome. Too bad it comes from such an awful song and video.
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 4, 2014 16:57:13 GMT -5
FoS on Invince - I really don't like how he has been defending Green Baron and then voting to put him at L-1 all of a sudden and asking for a role claim. It just strikes me as odd. You did say that you weren't voting him because he was scummy though, so that's why it isn't a straight up vote. I'm keeping my eye on you though.
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Post by nick64 on Aug 4, 2014 16:58:32 GMT -5
Finally getting interesting.
With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.
Deadline is August 6, 11:00pm ET.
Az: 1 (Zebra) Cynthia: 1 (Kunt) Green Baron: 5 (Cynthia, Ginger Spice, Rocky, Ryan, Popstop) Invincible: 3 (Max, Coco, Surfboardt) Max: 1 (Invincible) Rocky: 1 (Codex) Surfboardt: 2 (Az, Green Baron)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 16:59:46 GMT -5
Actually fuck it, I'm going back to my Surf vote cause I'm not liking his bandwagoning and all my aforementioned points about him. Vote: Surf
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:00:37 GMT -5
FoS on Invince - I really don't like how he has been defending Green Baron and then voting to put him at L-1 all of a sudden and asking for a role claim. It just strikes me as odd. You did say that you weren't voting him because he was scummy though, so that's why it isn't a straight up vote. I'm keeping my eye on you though. Why such a sudden change? lool.
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Post by surfy on Aug 4, 2014 17:00:56 GMT -5
Actually f**k it, I'm going back to my Surf vote cause I'm not liking his bandwagoning and all my aforementioned points about him. Vote: SurfSometimes there's a reason a lot of people vote for someone, it's called being suspicious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:01:15 GMT -5
Yeah and you define suspicious.
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Post by Zeebz on Aug 4, 2014 17:01:54 GMT -5
FoS on Invince - I really don't like how he has been defending Green Baron and then voting to put him at L-1 all of a sudden and asking for a role claim. It just strikes me as odd. You did say that you weren't voting him because he was scummy though, so that's why it isn't a straight up vote. I'm keeping my eye on you though. Why such a sudden change? lool. Because I liked your analysis but that push for GB was just odd. I didn't straight up vote you though, I just noted it may be worth looking into in the future.
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Post by surfy on Aug 4, 2014 17:02:47 GMT -5
Yeah and you define suspicious. Well... I've only played 2 times so... I don't expect myself to have this game down just yet
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:03:01 GMT -5
Ok, so everyone's questioning me being aligned with Green Baron, hold on let me get some points i threw out earlier as to why we wouldn't be aligned.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:04:44 GMT -5
Remember god redacted when I was the town roleblocker... And i swear to god in that game i got to l-1 50 times, but was never lynched. #memories
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:07:12 GMT -5
Anyways, my point for us not being aligned was when I said top 3 in the competition probably got scum, as it turned out, that was ry4n, Drag and GB. However, i did not think he had a top 3 finish, and called him most likely town if it goes to those rankings, cause i didn't think he'd do well on the quiz, but i was obviously wrong.
And like i said before he seems invested, and seems to be asking questions, and I believe his vanilla claim tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:07:36 GMT -5
If I was scum with him, I would've asked him his position before saying that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:18:04 GMT -5
You guys stress me in these games, no one takes my word for a dime, nothing. I'm almost positive GB is not scum, so if possible I'd like the weight to shift elsewhere, you find me defensive as fuck over him, oh well I'm trying to get a good lynch here and not a mislynch, and I'm getting extreme newb town vibes from him, so I'm gonna defend him for now fwiw. We have nothing to go off of yet, and lynching someone who seems to give a fuck doesn't seem like the best move, as here early a lot of people are being rather quiet outside of myself and Green Baron i.e. Post count in the thread. I'm feeling good about popstop after that analysis, but it's not fully drawn town vibes for me, cause the vote against GB offsets the other good points in my mind. Cynthia, I'm feeling rather good about to, but that's just because I like her points and couldn't imagine scum Cynthia, but I am kinda side-eying her as the leader of Gb's lynch wagon, as I don't think she's one to go after newb town players from what I remember and it gives me a sense she knows something. Idk, I wanna look more into the people who currently have their votes on people that only have one vote, cause they're most likely rvs reasons. Also I'm not liking Coco's unwillingness to read, as it gives me Libra vibes from God Redacted who was mafia and publicly stated to me that he didn't feel like reading my posts, and that to me more or less is a cop-out. So anyways, back into my hole for a bit.
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Post by popstop on Aug 4, 2014 17:20:25 GMT -5
Oh, jesus, Invince. Are you even kidding me? Getting discussion going? Just to see what Baron would do? How easy would it have been for someone to just swoop in and hammer Baron just now?
Also, Baron, that was such a quick role claim. You did it before any discussion could really get going. Weird too. Not sure if I even buy it.
I honestly don't know what to think of that whole exchange.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 4, 2014 17:22:47 GMT -5
Invince put me on the spot and if I didn't role claim quickly then someone could have easily made the deciding vote.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 4, 2014 17:25:36 GMT -5
He didn't even give me a chance to explain, he practically forced me to roleclaim or I would have been lynched.
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Post by popstop on Aug 4, 2014 17:30:25 GMT -5
Ugh, FINE. Back to the drawing board... for now.
Unvote: Green Baron
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:30:37 GMT -5
Ok so instead of an analysis I'm just going to read back starting at page 17 with Invince's megapost, which is basically when shit started to get serious. WARNING: this will be kind of a wall. -- Page 17Glad I got this done with, not gonna be too active these next few weeks, so I hope this along with a few comments here and there and maybe another one of these at some point is enough to make it last and convince people that I'm town, haha. Still very confused by this. You're trying to feel for scum reads on RVS. Surf in particular is weird, because all of your points are shaky at best and seem intentionally spun at a scummy angle. You claim you're unsure of Coco, but then place her in the scum category for... what? Posting more than Az? I'm also curious as to how you came up with three scum instead of four. Three scum would be less than 25% of the players-- way too small. The quoted portion though in particular set me off, because you've been just as active. This feels like a setup: you put in a lot of work (rather, a giant summary of all the happenings followed by loose opinions) then get out of dodge by playing the "I'm busy" card so you never have to do it again and won't look sus for it. FoSYeah Surfboardt after that thread you made last night I kinda lost the sliver of respect I already had for you plus you were Mafia last game so I know not to be fooled this time around. I commented on this before, but this has absolutely nothing to do with this game and the fact that you're chiming in right after Invince is admittedly strange to me. There's potential for alignment like Codex mentioned, but it could just as well be piggybacking. Green Baron - This conviction seems plausible, but unlikely because if he were scum he'd be asking the questions that were asked in the thread in the mafia qt. This is a very "sure" statement to make lol. It's also one made in a lot of games-- it's entirely possible someone could come up with the obvious strategy of "hey, go ask a lot of questions in the thread so you seem new and not scummy lol". Page 18
Coco seems more about kicking ass and taking names this time - much less RT, which could potentially indicate a motivation to help town. I'm going to look scummy for this I'm sure ( ), but I agree-- at least where I'm at, although I'm basing everything about Coco on what I remember and haven't seen her post yet at this point. I get the impression she'd be more invested as scum. So what this implies: 1. No one is lying about his or her flavor role (i.e. if someone is scum they're not going to 'flip' Hayden, Lane, Enzo, or Matt). Not that flavor ever really reveals anything about the game, but just putting that out there so everyone knows for sure to lay that idea to rest. 2. Since the Brigade worked together in season 12 to reach the end, it makes sense that the scum in this game is probably working together as well. 3. However, the Night 0 post says, "I have some unfortunate news. Matt has decided that he will not be joining his Brigade brothers this year. I'm sure he will be missed by all of you." So I had tentatively assumed it's one 'Brigade' team of four, but the Night 0 comment strongly hints at a three-team Brigade and an indie (this would represent Matt going rogue). 4. It would be fun if the 'twist' is that at endgame, the evicted players form a 'jury' (like on the show) and select an overall winner between the remaining unevicted players. I agree with the last three (well, the fourth would be stressful but anyway lol). The first one though, eh. I think this is actually what I remembered being scummy but now that I think about it's really not because I misread the OP, lol, but it's incredibly vague. It does say that the Brigade is manipulating the members in the house that are scum. I almost want to throw out the possibility of a "cult" but idk how that would even work so nevermind. I think it's possible that nobody is lying about flavor, but that they may flip another flavor they aren't aware of. Or something. Or I'm just overthinking it. Oh well whatever, unvote: CynthiaThere is a comment Invince made several pages ago that I remember finding curious (it was something you'd pointed out) and I remember thinking it had me leaning town on Invince. I can't fully recall the comment now and should probably wait until I don't feel so drained to really go deep into analysis, but it was something to do with him talking about the results of the quiz. ------ It's day 1, you know nothing, and you can only select one of the following four people to evict: Az, Kunt, Julie Chenstop, and myself. Who are you evicting and why? Can you expand on the Invince point and why you picked the four of us specifically? Of all of you, I'd probably evict Az on principle, then popstop (as of right now, because I have less of a read on him), then you, then well.. me-- but then all of this seems weird and is making me reassess that line of thought because, well, why introduce it? lmao @ invince. Good analysis. lol O hai, sorry for my absence, Big Brother was doing some rather inappropriate poking around~ Seriously though, end of the weekend/Monday means back to uni for another week and I have assignments due mid-month already LOL. Back to my "evict Az if I had to" comment... I take it back, because I don't think I've ever seen Az as uninvested scum, and that's kind of the vibe I get. Page 19I realized I never answered the question in Cynthia's analysis, anyways if I had to choose between those 4, as of right now I would choose either popstop or Az, leaning towards Az in that instance, but the reason is both have been rather dead weight, but I expect more out of popstop (which is what I've been starting to see out of him), so I'm eager to see what he brings to the table here up until the deadline. This is weird because Cynthia and I have admittedly not done that much ourselves. Well, Cynthia's done more than any of us, but I almost don't like that I'm a discussion point here for the same reasons as Az and popstop. (Side note: ry4n and Rocky are being dodgy, as in saying things occasionally but at the same time, not all that much when they do post. Same with Ginger, but he's given reason) These three people are on the block. But instead of picking one to evict, you have to pick one person to save. Who are you saving, and why? Hm. Page 20I'm not liking the Green Baron wagon He was at L-4 and it wasn't really a wagon since the votes weren't rolling in for him lol. Yeah this post just sounds like bandwagoning on Surf to me. All you really said was "I think Surf is scum" five times. Vote: Green BaronI kind of agree with this, but then GB strikes me as the type to rush into lynches and probably just wants to get to one that isn't him, town or otherwise lol. Doesn't mean we should let him off the hook for it though. Just fyi, willing to lynch a possible town member (I am town, but this is from your pov's) who's contributing a lot more than other people seems like a scum type move, I'm not encouraging you Max to move your vote, but it seems a bit reaching to vote this early in the game for someone who is contributing a lot more than most people and is actually analyzing over everything. Just putting this out there. You were yelling at everyone to vote and now you're yelling at people for voting lol right now we have so little to go on and activity and inactivity meant s**t in the last game I played. I can exactly put my finger on it but from reading through three people stuck out, Green and Surf seem to have a natural scum vibe in how they play so not sure what to make of it right now. I will say that Invince seems to be doing the most to lead lynches based on what? for now Vote: InvinceI played the scum acting like town before and played it well, I get a sense that is what he is doing. So, you think Invince seems town, but you're voting because.. a hunch? And to clarify because I'm tired, those "three people" are Invince, Green, and Surf right? This post looks fairly town to me. His scum analyses seem particularly messy by comparison to the ones he provided last game, which this lines up with. Page 21 NOBODY HAMMER, OR YOU'RE GOING NEXT. Vote: Green Baron Role claim. This sounds a bit adamant, but this is a way we can escape a mislynch. I'm not voting him because I find him scummy, this is just to put enough pressure on him for him to claim, cause I feel it's best right now. I died a little inside. You asked if scum were given safe claims, then you ask him to role claim. Literally what? lol btw with Invince defending GB so "hard", I'd like to bring back my point about when Invince said GB is "100% town because he probably sucked at the game", which really just felt like a badly thought out defence for his fellow scum member. Idk, I think we're using the same logic that led everyone to believe I was aligned with Lahey last game when... I wasn't. lol I don't know whether to think GB or Invince is scum in this scenario, but I don't like how either of them handled this. @mod: vote count?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:32:10 GMT -5
Nevermind there's already a votecount.
vote: Invince
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:37:30 GMT -5
ughhhh why am i so sleepy when there's finally stuff to read
im too sleepy to articulate but unvote: Green Baron b/c he was my last rvs vote and i honestly forgot it was on him. vote: Invince because right now you are doing the utter and utmost but i'll be honest, i'm not fully committed to this idea just yet. kunt is suspicerous of me and doesn't recall why but i wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with my questions. i was trying to move things out of rvs by getting people to think - and more importantly, talk - about other players. of course when you zoom in on certain people it does look a bit odd but that doesn't bother me. half the players aren't even really bothering to answer them though so failed effort is failed i guess.
also popstop, why i included Az in the first group of four - but when he does get really into a game (whether he's playing or not) he has a lot to say and can be very analytical, constantly looking for clues and small scumtells, etc. basically i took the four players that i felt can be the most in-depth with their analysis and pitted them against each other to get some kind of reaction out of other players. how Az chooses to parlay that aspect is different though, he plays more conservatively than we do which is something i didn't really think through until i was working through the answer to my own question. i should probably take a note or two from him on that.
i think i said this before but 'new' players who are scum can and often do play dumb in the thread to seem more town. so this is a poor justification for saying GB is probably town. HOWEVER, i do feel (so far) that his questions are genuine. also GB and Surf are clearly beefing with each other over petty ish and i think it's safe to say they are not scum partners.
i am literally falling asleep with every keystroke. i'll bbl
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:40:01 GMT -5
'new' players who are scum can and often do play dumb in the thread to seem more town I think at one point I encouraged Coco to do this last game. Then she starts coming out talking about reflexive roles and shit rofl
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:43:58 GMT -5
ok wow i don't know how to spell suspicious anymore that is just great and also why the fuck am i still awake at all???? anyway i'm only commenting b/c i'm just now seeing kutn's last post and i wanted to point out that a game with a cult in it would be bastard b/c it would involve changing alignments. so i doubt there is a such thing here.
something about invince is really not sitting right with me and it really bugs me that i'm too tired to put my finger on it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:46:00 GMT -5
something about invince is really not sitting right with me and it really bugs me that i'm too tired to put my finger on it. I agree, but I'm interested to see where his lynch goes as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:46:21 GMT -5
Well, pending lynch. Idk if he'll actually be lynched.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:46:50 GMT -5
No kunt, what I was saying is Invince is trying very hard to appear to be town, but it strikes me as very similar to how i played last game. Pointing fingers, going all crazy, being all over the fucking place
I see i was his muse.
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Post by popstop on Aug 4, 2014 17:46:48 GMT -5
Well, this is why I'm still not convinced of the vanilla claim. The whole "look at how many posts I have" comments just seems like you;re saying "look at me - I'm contributing! Don;t lynch me this time!" Anyhow, I don't know what to think of Invince - I mean he acts like this every game, and just stays a target the whole time. Mafia loves him to stay in the game because he is such a distraction. You can be a very frustrating player, Invince. The problem is, like Cynthia, I've not seen a mafia Invince, so I'm not sure what that would look like.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 17:47:47 GMT -5
'new' players who are scum can and often do play dumb in the thread to seem more town I think at one point I encouraged Coco to do this last game. Then she starts coming out talking about reflexive roles and s**t rofl I'm like a cat when cornered, i come up with all types of shit outta my ass. hisssssss
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