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Post by nick64 on Nov 20, 2014 0:12:08 GMT -5
"Don't" may have gone back up to #11, but he didn't mention it because it isn't a new peak, which in most cases is the only time he mentions a rise. I thought that too at first but then I realized he mentioned Happy even though it didn't peak at #37  That one was probably just because it was a pretty decent jump for such an old song. He occasionally mentions moves like that as well. |
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Post by felipe on Nov 20, 2014 8:55:52 GMT -5
But she could still get more points from on-demand. She's being kinda money-greedy. Ok, so she should be losing money to get more points for Billboard charts? But she didn't, so Shake it Off is #3 this week instead of #2? I don't know how she'll be able to live with that. |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 20, 2014 9:05:13 GMT -5
But she could still get more points from on-demand. She's being kinda money-greedy. Ok, so she should be losing money to get more points for Billboard charts? But she didn't, so Shake it Off is #3 this week instead of #2? I don't know how she'll be able to live with that. You have a funny way of looking at it if you think an extra $15,000 in streaming revenue in a week is losing her money. |
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Nov 20, 2014 9:14:32 GMT -5
Mediabase 2 Days Update
TOP 20
1. MAROON 5 - Animals: 174.684 (+ 3.098) ▲
2. TOVE LO - Habits (Stay High): 171.385 (- 0.225) ▼
3. TAYLOR SWIFT - Shake It Off: 146.222 (- 4.224)
4. ED SHEERAN - Don't: 136.311 (+ 1.846)
5. MEGHAN TRAINOR - All About That Bass: 119.935 (- 6.196)
6. JEREMIH – Don’t Tell ‘Em f/YG: 103.691 (- 3.674)
7. MR PROBZ – Waves: 97.927 (+ 2.122) ▲
8. TAYLOR SWIFT - Blank Space: 93.798 (+ 6.593) ▲
9. JESSIE J/A. GRANDE/N. MINAJ - Bang Bang: 93.125 (- 4.728) ▼
10. SAM SMITH – Stay With Me: 88.798 (- 2.563) ▼
11. CALVIN HARRIS - Blame f/John Newman: 88.366 (+ 3.259)
12. SAM SMITH – I’m Not The Only One: 79.359 (+ 3.366) ▲
13. ARIANA GRANDE & THE WEEKND - Love Me Harder: 78.874 (+ 1.971)
14. IGGY AZALEA - Black Widow f/Rita Ora: 77.571 (- 4.278) ▼
15. CLEAN BANDIT – Rather Be f/Jess Glynne: 71.418 (- 1.655)
16. NICO & VINZ – Am I Wrong: 68.586 (- 2.184)
17. JASON DERULO - Trumpets: 68.571 (- 0.344)
18. KEITH URBAN - Somewhere In My Car: 66.794 (+ 0.308) ▲
19. CHRIS BROWN – New Flame f/Rick Ross: 66.285 (- 0.627) ▼
20. NICK JONAS - Jealous: 66.073 (+ 0.941)
OTHERS
LITTLE BIG TOWN - Day Drinking: 65.595 (+ 1.147)
TREY SONGZ – Touchin, Lovin f/Nicki Minaj: 64.093 (+ 0.358)
FRANKIE BALLARD - Sunshine & Whiskey: 63.491 (- 3.044)
MADDIE & TAE - Girl In A Country Song: 60.681 (+ 0.762)
HOZIER - Take Me To Church: 57.490 (+ 3.168)
IGGY AZALEA - Beg For It f/M Ø: 51.476 (+ 1.658)
I LOVE MAKONNEN - Tuesday f/Drake: 49.847 (+ 2.634)
DJ KHALED - Hold You Down f/Chris Brown...: 49.095 (+ 0.795)
BIG SEAN - I Don't F**k With You f/E-40: 47.411 (+ 3.010)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Something In The Water: 43.086 (+ 0.618)
MILKY CHANCE – Stolen Dance: 37.416 (+ 0.881)
VANCE JOY - Riptide: 36.044 (+ 1.102)
FALL OUT BOY – Centuries: 33.935 (+ 0.793)
ALESSO - Heroes (we could be) f/Tove Lo: 31.649 (+ 1.098)
COLBIE CAILLAT - Try: 30.302 (- 0.462)
NICO & VINZ - In Your Arms: 28.307
FERGIE - L.A.LOVE (la la): 26.734 (- 0.614)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Lips Are Movin: 26.177 (+ 0.717)
GWEN STEFANI - Baby Don't Lie: 25.216 (+ 0.185)
SELENA GOMEZ - The Heart Wants What It Wants: 21.538 (+ 2.641)
FOO FIGHTERS - Something From Nothing: 20.844 (+ 0.368)
DAVID GUETTA - Dangerous f/Sam Martin: 20.023 (- 0.030)
USHER - I Don't Mind f/Juicy J: 19.097 (+ 1.861)
NICKI MINAJ - Only f/Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown: 17.984 (+ 0.634)
MARK RONSON - Uptown Funk f/Bruno Mars: 17.979 (+ 2.565)
ONEREPUBLIC – I Lived: 17.606 (+ 1.317)
ELLA HENDERSON - Ghost: 13.963 (+ 0.539)
CHARLI XCX - Break The Rules: 10.807 (- 0.019)
IMAGINE DRAGONS - I Bet My Life: 11.540 (+ 0.648)
JESSIE J - Burnin' Up f/2 Chainz: 10.871 (+ 0.196)
MARIAH CAREY - All I Want For Christmas Is...: 9.107
TINASHE - Pretend f/A$AP Rocky: 7.334 (+ 0.333)
ONE DIRECTION - Night Changes: 8.340 (+ 1.634)
ED SHEERAN - Thinking Out Loud: 6.030
FIFTH HARMONY - Sledgehammer: 3.959
LUDACRIS - Good Lovin f/Miguel: 2.578
PITBULL - Time Of Our Lives f/Ne-Yo: 1.532 (+ 0.405)
SHAWN MENDES - Something Big: 1.384
MAJOR LAZER - All My Love f/Ariana Grande: 0.787
NICKI MINAJ - Bed Of Lies: 0.582
NICOLE SCHERZINGER - Run: 0.130
COLDPLAY - Ink: 0.119
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 20, 2014 9:26:18 GMT -5
^Shouldn't that go in a 12/6 Hot 100 thread?
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Post by imbondz on Nov 20, 2014 10:55:37 GMT -5
Has the Hot 100 been released here or did I just miss it?
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Nov 20, 2014 12:11:38 GMT -5
^Shouldn't that go in a 12/6 Hot 100 thread? I didn't find it. The thread was created after I've posted here |
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Post by felipe on Nov 20, 2014 15:19:27 GMT -5
Ok, so she should be losing money to get more points for Billboard charts? But she didn't, so Shake it Off is #3 this week instead of #2? I don't know how she'll be able to live with that. You have a funny way of looking at it if you think an extra $15,000 in streaming revenue in a week is losing her money. You'd be really naive to say that avoiding Spotify is not increasing her singles and albums sales. Do you really think she and her label would take her music off Spotify if it was profitable for her? |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 20, 2014 15:22:29 GMT -5
You have a funny way of looking at it if you think an extra $15,000 in streaming revenue in a week is losing her money. You'd be really naive to say that avoiding Spotify is not increasing her singles and albums sales. Do you really think she and her label would take her music off Spotify if it was profitable for her? They've left it on less profitable services like Pandora and iTunes Radio so... |
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Post by imbondz on Nov 20, 2014 15:41:06 GMT -5
She did it because she makes so much money off of cd sales, airplay and touring, and she can afford it. Other artists probably can't.
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Post by felipe on Nov 20, 2014 17:33:54 GMT -5
You'd be really naive to say that avoiding Spotify is not increasing her singles and albums sales. Do you really think she and her label would take her music off Spotify if it was profitable for her? They've left it on less profitable services like Pandora and iTunes Radio so... So what do you mean exactly? That Taylor's label doesn't know how to manage her properly? That they're making bad business moves? |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 20, 2014 17:51:18 GMT -5
They've left it on less profitable services like Pandora and iTunes Radio so... So what do you mean exactly? That Taylor's label doesn't know how to manage her properly? That they're making bad business moves? That taking it off Spotify had nothing to do with profitability from that outlet. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 18:02:16 GMT -5
You'd be really naive to say that avoiding Spotify is not increasing her singles and albums sales. Do you really think she and her label would take her music off Spotify if it was profitable for her? They've left it on less profitable services like Pandora and iTunes Radio so... Pandora and iTunes Radio don't have all the functionality that Spotify does though right? (That I recall, been a long while since I have used either one). You can't choose one specific song/album in those services, never mind pick one song or album and put it on repeat, and they even limit the number of thumbs down you can give to songs in a certain span of time. They are not much different from "regular" radio, where hearing a song hopefully spurs a person to want to buy the song and check out the album. This is different from Spotify, which allows you to listen to choose one song or album to listen to as much as you want, or to form your own playlists rather than being 'given' a playlist based on one artist. Of course, if you are into that sort of thing, Spotify does have that option too...but the on-demand part of it discourages the desire to purchase because, well, why would you have to? Not to mention that Pandora and iTunes Radio, based on the number of users, are simply not threats on the level that Spotify is. (edit: this isn't an anti-Spotify stance on my own part, just to be clear) Taylor might get $15k from Spotify streaming but if she feels she would make $20-$30k by not streaming and raking in more album sales, then it's within reason and her right to go for the $20-$30k. Not sure how we got sidetracked to this though since I think the original point was that it seems silly to chastise Taylor for being "money greedy" instead of chasing after chart points (which in itself is a type of greed). She just made history replacing herself at #1 but people are kvetching because she didn't bust her ass to make sure she had the top two songs, as if somehow what she is doing isn't enough. Somehow I'm supposed to believe Taylor is the only one who is greedy and has a problem? ijs, a little perspective is needed. At least Taylor's supposed greed leads to a tangible result (more money to buy little soaps with). As a consumer and fan of her music we gain nothing from her chart positions. |
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Post by felipe on Nov 20, 2014 20:11:17 GMT -5
Taylor might get $15k from Spotify streaming but if she feels she would make $20-$30k by not streaming and raking in more album sales, then it's within reason and her right to go for the $20-$30k. Not sure how we got sidetracked to this though since I think the original point was that it seems silly to chastise Taylor for being "money greedy" instead of chasing after chart points (which in itself is a type of greed). She just made history replacing herself at #1 but people are kvetching because she didn't bust her ass to make sure she had the top two songs, as if somehow what she is doing isn't enough. Somehow I'm supposed to believe Taylor is the only one who is greedy and has a problem? ijs, a little perspective is needed. At least Taylor's supposed greed leads to a tangible result (more money to buy little soaps with). As a consumer and fan of her music we gain nothing from her chart positions. Exactly. As if having the top 2 songs was like a huge achievement and would make any difference, specially considering Shake it Off has already spent multiple weeks at #1, so it's not that it could have reached a new peak or something. People at Pulse care too much about random chart stats that they somethimes believe the artists should be going out of their ways to guarantee mention in chart trivia. |
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