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Post by Caviar on Feb 8, 2017 10:12:10 GMT -5
Surprised at the quality seats available at Citi Field on the Ciri ore sale. Got my seats - A6 what up How much are floor seats? |
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Post by 85la on Feb 8, 2017 10:26:58 GMT -5
Let me ask this, what is everyone so afraid she would have lost or what would have happened if she were to have been boldly political and made a drastic statement? To me it seems declining popularity and fewer record sales would be the fear, but would hardcore Trump supporters, many of them poor to middle class middle age straight white men, really buy her music anyway? Or, would her hardcore fans not buy her music because of this? That would be ludicrous. Most people probably wouldn't care, because, less you don't pay any attention to the polls or the general feelings of everyday Americans, most people do not like Trump! I don't think it's a case of her own fanbase not buying her music or supporting her but whatever her statement would have been would have taken away from her performance because then all coverage would be about her statement. There would be criticism from the right, obviously, which is probably neither here nor there but less people would be praising her performance for what it was and more would be commenting (either for or against) her statement. Which is maybe fine, but many many celebrities have made statements in some way and Gaga's would be another to add to the laundry list. It would get lost in the shuffle and that would be the end of it. It seems many people no longer care for the lost art of subtly. I saw one article that said something like "if you think Gaga didn't make a political statement, you're privilege is blinding you" or whatever. I think that's true. The statement was there. For once, she kept it subtle. Maybe the question back to you is, what could she have said or done that would have been in any way beneficial to anyone? Note: angering the right is not beneficial. Entertaining, yes. Beneficial, no. I guess I personally didn't want her to say or not say anything in particular, obviously it was up to her what to do and she absolutely had the prerogative to not do anything political, but I think performing Perfect Illusion along with some anti-Trump or anti-extreme right graffic would have been brilliant, or just performing PI and making that front and center stage of the performance would have been good enough. Just something that would go along with the tendencies of her career, which has been not only as an artist but an outspoken political activist and social critic, something to let the left know she still has their back and that would continue to energize that cause. |
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Post by Oprah on Feb 8, 2017 11:05:23 GMT -5
The ONLY thing that bothers me about this political question is how right-wing media trolls like Piers Morgan and Tammy Lauren were appeased and thanked her for "not being political" (whether or not she was is another story). Everything Gaga stands for flies in the face of their beliefs and they don't deserve to feel represented by her. EDIT: Btw she killed it. You do know that was to spite Beyonce, right? Both Pier and Loren went after Beyonce for her "racist" performance at last year's SB. Is John Wayne the next single? It's featured on Apple Music's Hot Tracks. I think they're just too stupid to get the subtext, honestly. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Feb 8, 2017 11:43:48 GMT -5
You do know that was to spite Beyonce, right? Both Pier and Loren went after Beyonce for her "racist" performance at last year's SB. Is John Wayne the next single? It's featured on Apple Music's Hot Tracks. I think they're just too stupid to get the subtext, honestly. I agree. Like, what performance were you watching? What do you think the whole point of that Intro and hugging Tinashe was all about? |
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 8, 2017 12:46:18 GMT -5
Surprised at the quality seats available at Citi Field on the Ciri ore sale. Got my seats - A6 what up How much are floor seats? DOLLAZ. Like 300/piece. She's taking my coinz. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 8, 2017 12:48:35 GMT -5
JOHN WAYNE MUSIC VIDEO!!!
Apple Music exclusive though.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Feb 8, 2017 12:54:35 GMT -5
She did an amazing job. It felt so perfect and polished.
Her vocals were great.
The costumes were awesome.
The visuals were stunning.
The song selection was good. Can't lie though, I definitely wanted Perfect Illusion and Applause.
She was political, but not divisive. It was very pro-patriotism and pro-diversity.
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Post by die Lotterie on Feb 8, 2017 13:21:18 GMT -5
My family and I scored tickets for the Wrigley Field show in Chicago. It will be my 5th Lady Gaga concert. :'(  |
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Post by getonthebus on Feb 8, 2017 13:25:08 GMT -5
My family and I scored tickets for the Wrigley Field show in Chicago. It will be my 5th Lady Gaga concert. :'( See you there sis!  |
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Post by adamalterlago on Feb 8, 2017 13:25:39 GMT -5
John Wayne video - LOVE it. A little short but her best since GUY.
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Post by koolthing on Feb 8, 2017 13:26:27 GMT -5
The ONLY thing that bothers me about this political question is how right-wing media trolls like Piers Morgan and Tammy Lauren were appeased and thanked her for "not being political" (whether or not she was is another story). Everything Gaga stands for flies in the face of their beliefs and they don't deserve to feel represented by her. EDIT: Btw she killed it. You do know that was to spite Beyonce, right? Both Pier and Loren went after Beyonce for her "racist" performance at last year's SB. Is John Wayne the next single? It's featured on Apple Music's Hot Tracks. Of course I know that. They were still appeased though, a ton of racist comments that praise Gaga vs. BeyoncΓ© followed suit, even if the whole of her career is just about as politically charged as BeyoncΓ©'s. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 13:28:55 GMT -5
Loved the John Wayne video!
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I like the "John Wayne" video too. It's a nice marriage of her former and current styles.
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Post by Unhinged on Feb 8, 2017 14:45:17 GMT -5
Great video! Love the colors.
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Post by Harx on Feb 8, 2017 14:50:12 GMT -5
Wonderful video! Same goes for the song, one of the best on the album. Why is this an Apple Music exclusive that will most likely do nothing and fade away quickly, what is wrong with the music industry?!
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 8, 2017 14:59:01 GMT -5
The video is amazing, I'd say her best since Marry the Night!!!!! LOVE
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Post by bat1990 on Feb 8, 2017 15:14:59 GMT -5
Maybe it's an Apple Music Exclusive today and will be on YouTube & Vevo this or next Friday for the Streamz. Follow that up with her Grammy performance with Metallica of the song, and she suddenly gets another hit off of Joanne after the feeble life of "Million Reasons"
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 8, 2017 15:17:00 GMT -5
Not sure if it can give her a proper hit but the video itself is a triumph
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 8, 2017 15:32:13 GMT -5
I saw the 'John Wayne' video and thought it was great, and I kinda liked the tie-in to 'Million Reasons' with the pink outfit and guitar on the white background. Is Gaga's plan for the videos this era to make them string together like this?
Meanwhile the song itself sounds so much better than I remembered it, and I'm here for it to be a hit. Come through, 'Million Reasons', and lay down the groundwork to make this happen!
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 8, 2017 19:48:33 GMT -5
I think they're just too stupid to get the subtext, honestly. I agree. Like, what performance were you watching? What do you think the whole point of that Intro and hugging Tinashe was all about? I WAS WONDERING WHO SHE WAS HUGGING |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 19:53:33 GMT -5
vid.me/E6J6For anyone who desires to see the masterpiece John Wayne video but lacks Apple Music like myself Enjoy :kii:
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Feb 8, 2017 20:20:27 GMT -5
John Wayne best of the 3 videos of this era imo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 20:25:20 GMT -5
Also, I can't wait for someone to do a Lady GaGa rankdown cause it's gonna be heartbreaking for me to rank what is a set of singles that I love almost entirely.
Whenever someone ends up doing one, TAG MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE lol
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 8, 2017 20:50:57 GMT -5
Why not!
Video Rankdown: (based on memory and having not having seen her pre-Joanne videos since maybe a year ago. I might sit down and watch them all soon though but here goes)
Telephone
Alejandro
Bad Romance
Born This Way
Paparazzi
Judas
John Wayne
Applause
Marry The Night
You And I
Eh Eh
Poker Face
LoveGame
GUY
Just Dance
Edge of Glory
Beautiful Dirty Rich
Perfect Illusion
Million Reasons
Marry The Night would probably be higher if it existed in a shortened version. I did like the mini-film aspect of it but as a music video, it's overdone. But when the song begins, the rest of the video is fire!
Applause and John Wayne are maybe tied since I only actually seen John Wayne once and haven't seen Applause in over a year.
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Post by Mirago on Feb 8, 2017 21:10:20 GMT -5
Her videos about the GUYs - Alejandro, Judas and John Wayne all kick ass
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Post by Caviar on Feb 8, 2017 21:40:14 GMT -5
"Judas" is her magnum opus.
I'm still bitter "The Edge of Glory" was basic and uninspired.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 21:41:47 GMT -5
I just remembered this performance, my god this is like the BEST VMA performance ever IMO, it was just perfect
Killed vocals 24/7, outfit and set was awesome, piano playing pro skills, bloooooood, it captivates the message of the song perfectly in this performance
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Post by Revelry on Feb 8, 2017 21:42:37 GMT -5
Love the video! Her and Jonas Akerlund create magic.
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Post by Ivy Leegueβ’ on Feb 8, 2017 21:48:59 GMT -5
WOWOWOW @ that video. Campy and iconic. The old Gaga is back, y'all! I love her no matter what she does but this video was classic Gaga. A+
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 8, 2017 22:18:31 GMT -5
"Judas" is her magnum opus. I'm still bitter "The Edge of Glory" was basic and uninspired. The song deserves so much better in every aspect. The best thing about it is that it's the grand finale on the Born This Way about it. Beyond that, it seems like she pays it dust. I'm still bitter she didn't do it on the Artpop tour. |
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