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Post by Gary on Apr 8, 2015 21:08:56 GMT -5
To keep Uptown Funk at #1, maybe we can all record a bunch of viral videos and help save Bruno? {Spoiler}
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Post by forg on Apr 8, 2015 21:18:57 GMT -5
Oh some excitement on which song will get the top spot next week, nice!
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Post by ss8 on Apr 8, 2015 21:19:47 GMT -5
Today is the first day of AirPlay tracking, so it's quite possible for Sugar to be #1 in AirPlay next week is UF has 2 million + losses and Sugar has small increases. It has seven days to get there. And, it's sales points (according to Kworbs site) have been slightly higher than UF so far this week. Def all very possible but, again, the streaming seems to still be through the roof 'enough' w/ UF so if Sugars airplay and sales are just slightly higher wouldn't UFs streaming easily trump all of the above? Cant wait for all the projected figures/ #s to come in from reputable sources. I'm more than pretty sure BB already has an idea of all the #s but of course they know they have us all by the....so of course we prob. won't know a damn thing until the last possible minute or if *someone leaks info soon (later in the week or wkd) that ends up basically on point to what's gonna happen next week. |
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Post by badrobot on Apr 8, 2015 21:33:37 GMT -5
I've made plenty of wrong predictions but I'm pretty confident that Sugar is just not close enough. I think people are underestimating the total gap UF has had over the competition the past several weeks. Sugar would need to be surging hugely, not just slightly gaining.
SYA is the real wild card. Roar, Problem, Boyfriend, and Payphone all had huge sales debuts their first full weeks that seemed like sure fire #1 material but they just didn't have the AirPlay/streaming support (although of course Roar did hit #1 shortly after). SYA may have a similar fate, or it could leap to #1. I just am betting conservatively.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 21:49:22 GMT -5
To keep Uptown Funk at #1, maybe we can all record a bunch of viral videos and help save Bruno? {Spoiler}
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Post by popbox on Apr 8, 2015 21:53:29 GMT -5
When a song is as huge in streaming and airplay as UF still is, it takes a LOT to dethrone it. That's why some of us think UF definitely still has a shot next week.
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Post by ss8 on Apr 8, 2015 22:00:43 GMT -5
I've made plenty of wrong predictions but I'm pretty confident that Sugar is just not close enough. I think people are underestimating the total gap UF has had over the competition the past several weeks. Sugar would need to be surging hugely, not just slightly gaining. SYA is the real wild card. Roar, Problem, Boyfriend, and Payphone all had huge sales debuts their first full weeks that seemed like sure fire #1 material but they just didn't have the AirPlay/streaming support (although of course Roar did hit #1 shortly after). SYA may have a similar fate, or it could leap to #1. I just am betting conservatively. But as of now all SYA has is mainly sales. Yes, its streams are picking up but dont think Ive read anywhere 'yet' that the streams/views are significant on You Tube etc...mainly just on the Facebook page. Seems its ALL gonna come down to streams vs. how huge the sales are (and obviously how much UF falls this week w/ airplay and sales). Like I said, seems its crashing at exactly the wrong time. 2-3 weeks ago it maybe had enough of a firewall but if it keeps getting close to 2 million drops in airplay daily and falls even further w/ sales dunno how on earth it will pull it off. I also still think if Sugar somehow starts to get decent-strong radio updates again and streams it may barely beat UF. Like razor thin close. If UF isn't #1 next week (and falls to #2), just have a feeling the week after that it will be out of the top 2- esp if Sugar stays stable while UF continues to nosedive. |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 8, 2015 22:04:56 GMT -5
When a song is as huge in streaming and airplay as UF still is, it takes a LOT to dethrone it. That's why some of us think UF definitely still has a shot next week. Hope youre right! Ive been the first to admit Im not close to an expert w/ this new formula but guess I'm looking at things from a different perspective. |
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Post by Libra on Apr 8, 2015 22:10:48 GMT -5
Don't look now, but SYA just got a second red and this time UF got a dark green on iTunes. Welp. Those didn't last long. Plus, the second SYA shot up nearly 20 notches in just one update. |
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Post by allow that on Apr 8, 2015 22:14:29 GMT -5
Don't look now, but SYA just got a second red and this time UF got a dark green on iTunes. Welp. Those didn't last long. "Uptown Funk" is at its lowest percentage yet with the latest update! Double trouble! Double your pleasure, double your fun, etc.  |
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Post by popbox on Apr 8, 2015 22:15:00 GMT -5
Don't look now, but SYA just got a second red and this time UF got a dark green on iTunes. Welp. Those didn't last long. Plus, the second SYA shot up nearly 20 notches in just one update. It's hard to say how much of a lead SYA will have on an overall week basis when pop bars fluctuate so much. I guess it could sell a lot more than it seems, or it could be less than it seems. |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 8, 2015 22:38:04 GMT -5
Anyone have 'any' idea how much of a % lead Roar and all the other comparable songs had when they first came out (I kind look at this week as being SYAs 'first full official' week lol)and also how much airplay lead etc..those other songs had (during the weeks when they did NOT hit #1). Guess the most recent and best example is when Roar debuted, how big of a lead did it have over BL (and where was BLs airplay and streaming). As most remember Roar flew to #2 but not #1 until the week after I believe.
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Post by ss8 on Apr 8, 2015 22:42:07 GMT -5
Welp. Those didn't last long. Plus, the second SYA shot up nearly 20 notches in just one update. It's hard to say how much of a lead SYA will have on an overall week basis when pop bars fluctuate so much. I guess it could sell a lot more than it seems, or it could be less than it seems. Thats the thing. As I previously mentioned, ALL the songs below SYA are prob barely above 100-110k this week so it 'may' not be the crazy sales #s some are expecting. If UF was still around 175k-200k and SYA had this lead the #s most def./close to 100% would be possibly off the chart. |
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Post by popbox on Apr 8, 2015 22:43:11 GMT -5
It's hard to say how much of a lead SYA will have on an overall week basis when pop bars fluctuate so much. I guess it could sell a lot more than it seems, or it could be less than it seems. Thats the thing. As I previously mentioned, ALL the songs below SYA are barely prob above 100-110k this week so it 'may' not be the crazy sales #s some are expecting. If UF was still around 150k-200k and SYA had this lead the #s most def./close to 100% would be possibly off the chart. Oh I totally agree, I've brought that point up here as well. |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 8, 2015 22:45:55 GMT -5
Thats the thing. As I previously mentioned, ALL the songs below SYA are barely prob above 100-110k this week so it 'may' not be the crazy sales #s some are expecting. If UF was still around 150k-200k and SYA had this lead the #s most def./close to 100% would be possibly off the chart. Oh I totally agree, I've brought that point up here as well. I think that's actually a really big key point that many (including myself forgot). In my edit I changed the 150k to 175k-200k. :) For real though, even w/out SYA, UFs #s were prob. gonna crash a bit to 100-120k ish (closer to 120k) so that is what SYAs % is based on! ;) No more knows for sure what that 'exact' sales #s needs to be for SYA. If this was just sales/airplay would be waay easier to predict what's gonna happen. Not the case anymore. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 8, 2015 22:53:28 GMT -5
The Nick Jonas 69 cent sale should impact the rankings a bit.
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Post by ss8 on Apr 9, 2015 0:12:17 GMT -5
The Nick Jonas 69 cent sale should impact the rankings a bit. 'Impact' a bit..if even that much LOL. To think (though not at all surprised) that Nick Jonas lol got discounted but a song like UF (considering where its at right now) shows no signs of a discount or ANY action quite bizarre. I mean, if there's even a slight chance that a discount could give UF 'enough' of a push to save it from losing #1 for a *15th week* makes zero sense. Its black or white. Either like some others said, they truly dont care for the reasons mentioned in an earlier post or they def. are waiting to do it at the exact right time (or what they 'think' is the right time).  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 0:16:38 GMT -5
This was a fun read thank you guys
Your chart and music knowledge is so very special
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Post by allow that on Apr 9, 2015 0:20:42 GMT -5
Kworb just updated again!! Wiz Khalifa = a darker shade of green. Mark Ronson = a darker shade of red. I feel like I'm in 1st grade again playing "red light, green light" at recess and winning!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 0:52:52 GMT -5
Kworb just updated again!! Wiz Khalifa = a darker shade of green. Mark Ronson = a darker shade of red. I feel like I'm in 1st grade again playing "red light, green light" at recess and winning!  |
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Post by rimetm on Apr 9, 2015 5:25:39 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2015-04-18Not much time to write a full summary, so here's a summary of the summary: -Pretty boring week in terms of actual new hits. Other than See You Again making the giant leap, the only other mover is Dear Future Husband (57-39). -Also really small week for debuts. Only 5: Get Low (#77), The Matrimony (#87), Good Lovin' (#92), Love Me Like You Mean It (#97), and Commas (#98). -Both Take Me to Church (13-21) and Take Your Time (20-23) leave the top 20. In their places are Better Have My Money (23-19) and See You Again. -No longer hits are Stay With Me (39-42, now at a year!) and I Don't F--- With You (40-43). -One other mover into the top 50: Worth It (58-41, tantalizingly close to a hit). Collectively, the 3 boot Elastic Heart (47-52), Girl Crush (45-54), and She Knows (46-55, on its final week). -I Bet My Life falls 54-58, once again with a bullet, allowing it to stay a 22nd week. Might type more in the afternoon.
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Post by velaxti on Apr 9, 2015 6:38:42 GMT -5
Awesome to see Get Low debuting!  I thought it charted on the Hot 100 last year, but I guess not... The Matrimony and Good Lovin' probably debuting partially thanks to their albums being released. |
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 9, 2015 7:13:54 GMT -5
Wow, i doubt even the most optimistic thought Sam Smith would achieve all the thing he achieved a year ago
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 9, 2015 8:44:21 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/business/6524481/tidal-hurt-song-chart-positionHow Tidal's Exclusives Could Hurt a Song's Chart PositionBy Glenn Peoples | April 08, 2015 5:25 PM EDT The new company's artist-shareholders may want to boost its profile and value -- but what will it cost them? Tidal's artists that give the subscription service exclusive content are helping draw attention, and subscribers, to the artist-owned company -- but the artists have to weight the tradeoff of being absent from far more popular services. One of those tradeoffs, and a major one, is a song's achievement on the Billboard charts. The fewer people listen to a single, the lower the single will chart on Billboard's Hot 100 and other charts that incorporate streaming data. If the song were streamed exclusively at Tidal, Nicki Minaj's "Truffle Butter" would have dropped from No. 15 to No. 19 on the April 11th Hot 100 chart, according to a Billboard analysis. (See explanation of the calculations below.) Beyonce's "7/11" would have lost eight places, going from No. 44 to No. 52; Drake's "Know Yourself" would have suffered more precipitously, descending from No. 57 to straight off the Hot 100; and Kanye West's "All Day" would drop from No. 62 to No. 84. None of those artists has yet released a recording exclusively to Tidal, although all four are "artist-shareholders" in the company. The most notable exclusives have been from Rihanna, who through her own record label has released two tracks exclusively to Tidal, "Bitch Better Get My Money" (which debuted at #23 on the Hot 100 on the strength of digital track sales) and "American Oxygen." These theoretical chart positions were tallied assuming exclusive tracks' streams from on-demand audio services would drop 95 percent. There are a few reasons to use this estimate. First, there are few Tidal subscribers in the United States, where the service launched in November and re-launched under Jay Z's ownership last week, Second, Spotify accounts for 80 percent of one major labels streams, according to multiple sources. Third, Nielsen Music, which provides sales and streaming data to Billboard, does not yet track Tidal's streaming activity. For these reasons, we believe an estimate that Tidal could account for 5 percent of potential streams is fair and conservative.
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Post by Daniel Collins on Apr 9, 2015 9:24:17 GMT -5
I think the thread for Harlem Shake's 1st week reached more than 20 or 30 pages. Correction: That thread only reached 19 pages. The most I've seen is the 2/25/12 thread with 22 pages. That was the week the recurrent policy changed allowing "I Will Always Love You" and two other Whitney songs re-enter Hot 100. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 9:26:14 GMT -5
So this is the longest in more than 3 years, nice  |
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Post by colson on Apr 9, 2015 9:29:13 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/business/6524481/tidal-hurt-song-chart-positionHow Tidal's Exclusives Could Hurt a Song's Chart PositionBy Glenn Peoples | April 08, 2015 5:25 PM EDT The new company's artist-shareholders may want to boost its profile and value -- but what will it cost them? Tidal's artists that give the subscription service exclusive content are helping draw attention, and subscribers, to the artist-owned company -- but the artists have to weight the tradeoff of being absent from far more popular services. One of those tradeoffs, and a major one, is a song's achievement on the Billboard charts. The fewer people listen to a single, the lower the single will chart on Billboard's Hot 100 and other charts that incorporate streaming data. If the song were streamed exclusively at Tidal, Nicki Minaj's "Truffle Butter" would have dropped from No. 15 to No. 19 on the April 11th Hot 100 chart, according to a Billboard analysis. (See explanation of the calculations below.) Beyonce's "7/11" would have lost eight places, going from No. 44 to No. 52; Drake's "Know Yourself" would have suffered more precipitously, descending from No. 57 to straight off the Hot 100; and Kanye West's "All Day" would drop from No. 62 to No. 84. None of those artists has yet released a recording exclusively to Tidal, although all four are "artist-shareholders" in the company. The most notable exclusives have been from Rihanna, who through her own record label has released two tracks exclusively to Tidal, "Bitch Better Get My Money" (which debuted at #23 on the Hot 100 on the strength of digital track sales) and "American Oxygen." These theoretical chart positions were tallied assuming exclusive tracks' streams from on-demand audio services would drop 95 percent. There are a few reasons to use this estimate. First, there are few Tidal subscribers in the United States, where the service launched in November and re-launched under Jay Z's ownership last week, Second, Spotify accounts for 80 percent of one major labels streams, according to multiple sources. Third, Nielsen Music, which provides sales and streaming data to Billboard, does not yet track Tidal's streaming activity. For these reasons, we believe an estimate that Tidal could account for 5 percent of potential streams is fair and conservative. Does anyone proofread at Billboard anymore?  |
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Post by Future Captain on Apr 9, 2015 9:30:23 GMT -5
So this is the longest in more than 3 years, nice Considering that you alone probably make 3-4 page of this thread.... |
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Post by allow that on Apr 9, 2015 9:31:14 GMT -5
Nice to see "The Matrimony" finally charting!
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Post by Future Captain on Apr 9, 2015 9:35:08 GMT -5
Oh look, a new page |
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