Garth Brooks - "More Than A Memory"

[somebody60]

rowdawg2187 said:

For what it's worth, this song scored a 91.50 on Hit Predictor. Out of all songs currently on the Billboard chart, only six scored higher.

I'm not sure how these ratings work or when songs are actually rated, but I think it was pretty obvious that this song was going to be a big hit after just its first day lmao! And, after several days, it was obvious this song was going to hit Top 5, or even #1 (which it did).

[dcowboy77]

rowdawg2187 said:

wamufan said:

What's worse, don't you love it when people are in denial of the obvious?

I don't think dcowboy is in denial. It's just kind of annoying when people write posts like that which are under five words.

If you're talking about the other 1-2 people who claim there was no money involved in getting this to the top, they're not regular visitors in this forum so I don't think they can be taken too seriously.

bingo...i guess sum people just dont get sarcasm....lol

[WamuFive]

I understood your post (and your sarcasm) quite well. I wasn't claiming you were in denial of anything. I guess some people just take things too personally....lol

[sbp17]

wamufan said:

sbp17 said:

Well, yesterday his 7-day cumulative spin total was over 4000. Today it's in the 3400's. By my estimation, he took a 600 spin hit from last Monday compared to yesterday. Interesting to see how the final numbers from this week will play out.

Thanks. I was looking at the other Brooks' number.

[zaclord]

it fell from #1 to #6 on mediabase today with a HUGE decrease in its audience!!!

[rowdawg21]

zaclord said:

it fell from #1 to #6 on mediabase today with a HUGE decrease in its audience!!!

That's because it had over 10 million in audience last Monday. He wasn't expected to come close to that 10 million mark yesterday, and he didn't.

[DCXfan]

zaclord said:

it fell from #1 to #6 on mediabase today with a HUGE decrease in its audience!!!

Everyone has known that for more than a week.

[EmersonDrive13Rocks]

This could gain enough to make up the 4 million AI that it is behind "Take Me There" this week and return to the top spot again next week but right now I predict #2 with 1 million AI behind Rascal Flatts.

[Zazie]

somebody60 said:

rowdawg2187 said:

For what it's worth, this song scored a 91.50 on Hit Predictor. Out of all songs currently on the Billboard chart, only six scored higher.

I'm not sure how these ratings work or when songs are actually rated, but I think it was pretty obvious that this song was going to be a big hit after just its first day lmao! And, after several days, it was obvious this song was going to hit Top 5, or even #1 (which it did).

I'm not sure what they do either, but they pick 25 of the top 26 songs on this week's chart as "hits." So their designation isn't especially meaningful. If you wait until songs are in the top 20 before picking them (obviously not avoidable in Garth's case, but it happens with a lot of others), then they're going to be hits.

How'd they miss the boat on Luke? Oh, you mean the only surprising hit in the top 25 is the one they missed?

[EmersonDrive13Rocks]

Garth's also breaks the record with a #26 debut on Musicrow Nashville's Music Publication!!! The Musicrow chart has 75 positions and consists of many smaller radio stations across the US.

[queensporsche]

rowdawg2187 said:

areyoureadytojump said:

This reeks of payola.

We've already been through this, but...

Obviously there was some sort of money involved. However, Garth and Big Machine have worked extremely hard promoting and marketing this new single.

They had a press conference about the new album/single and Garth invited PDs to his home. I could go on.

Please DO go on....tell us EVERYTHING. PLEASE!!! Since you're cousin's the songwriter, you must have lots of inside information. Tell us, tell us!!! How else are we gonna know this stuff?? Thanks for whatever info you can give.

[edwin1961]

zazie said:

edwin1961 said:

I just don't understand this but my radio station has yet to play this song and it's #1? You mean this song is THAT good!?

It boggles my mind.

Is country radio THAT starved for new music that just because it's Garth, it goes to #1. I must be in the minority, but he really wasn't one of my favorites when he came out in 1989 and still isn't today.

When did being "good" become a criterion for chart success? We all love some and hate others and are indifferent to a third group. But the songs don't stop climbing because somebody in the audience doesn't think they're good.

Does the name Rascal Flatts ring a bell? I can't stand 'em. So I guess they'll stop going to the top now. Or they would if they just knew my opinion....

Yes, in your example, Rascal Flatts would get your opinion but not directly. Calling your local radio station for a request and you don't request Rascal Flatts, is just one less voice for that DJ to play one song from their.

[edwin1961]

There's a lot of inconsistency with garth debuting at #1 and Mediabase currently has him at #10.
I know the system Billboard/R&R uses is different but the difference between #1 & #10 is too obvious. There has to be a number crunching flaw on either side.

Does the radio station ADD stats support this? Because, one station may be playing this song once every two hours and another station maynot be playing it at all! (which is the case with my local station).

[Zazie]

edwin1961 said:

There's a lot of inconsistency with garth debuting at #1 and Mediabase currently has him at #10.
I know the system Billboard/R&R uses is different but the difference between #1 & #10 is too obvious. There has to be a number crunching flaw on either side.

Does the radio station ADD stats support this? Because, one station may be playing this song once every two hours and another station maynot be playing it at all! (which is the case with my local station).

If Billboard published a chart today, Garth wouldn't be #1. Things have changed a lot in 2 days. You get to see the MB data updated every day, but the Billboard chart is only published once a week.

[rowdawg21]

queensporsche said:

rowdawg2187 said:

We've already been through this, but...

Obviously there was some sort of money involved. However, Garth and Big Machine have worked extremely hard promoting and marketing this new single.

They had a press conference about the new album/single and Garth invited PDs to his home. I could go on.

Please DO go on....tell us EVERYTHING. PLEASE!!! Since you're cousin's the songwriter, you must have lots of inside information. Tell us, tell us!!! How else are we gonna know this stuff?? Thanks for whatever info you can give.

I don't have any inside information, just things I've heard/read about. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if my cousin had no idea this was going to debut at #1 or even top 10.

I can't think of many other specific examples, but they really hyped up the song with ads and quotes from program directors around the country. I believe Garth also gave performances of all his new songs.

[rw318]

This thread is full of tears.....Swimming in a sea of hatred.

Of course garth is getting a major push...after this...he's gonna be gone for longer than two years. When you get one of the best selling country artists ever to come out of "retirement" for three years...you push his final album and everything about it hard before he leaves again.

Probably doesn't bother me as much cause I really stopped listening to the radio the past few years. The soft rock....I mean new country makes me sick.

[Marv]

Hasn't the fact that he is the biggest selling artist of the past 35 years, and #3 among all artists over over the past 40 years ever crossed your mind?

Since there are/and or were enough PDs who certainly rode his explosion onto the music scene in 1989 to help propel country music sales (and radio station ratings, and especially unsurpassed TSL numbers) into the stratosphere, was it not a foregone conclusion that this single was going to be enormous coming out of the box?

TSL=Time Spent Listening.

[dcowboy77]

rw318 said:

This thread is full of tears.....Swimming in a sea of hatred.

Of course garth is getting a major push...after this...he's gonna be gone for longer than two years. When you get one of the best selling country artists ever to come out of "retirement" for three years...you push his final album and everything about it hard before he leaves again.

Probably doesn't bother me as much cause I really stopped listening to the radio the past few years. The soft rock....I mean new country makes me sick.

please let this b your 1st and also very last post then....thx

[rw318]

sorry but I can't grant your request....th(anks)x

[dcowboy77]

rw318 said:

sorry but I can't grant your request....th(anks)x

wow....thats like a total bummer

[whynotnow]

But how do you explain the less then great performance his last out of retirement releases produced? He was still Garth.... Why did they not get the numbers this song did..... Don't get me wrong.. I could really like the song if it was not so overdone....(truth is I'm not a Garth fan) If I'm understanding your post, you're saying anything Garth did after such an absense was going to be big... That didn't happen with the last 2 "un-retirement " efforts
I'm not trying to be a smart alec. I truly want to know what you believe the explaination is

marv said:

Hasn't the fact that he is the biggest selling artist of the past 35 years, and #3 among all artists over over the past 40 years ever crossed your mind?

Since there are/and or were enough PDs who certainly rode his explosion onto the music scene in 1989 to help propel country music sales (and radio station ratings, and especially unsurpassed TSL numbers) into the stratosphere, was it not a foregone conclusion that this single was going to be enormous coming out of the box?

TSL=Time Spent Listening.

[rw318]

Are we having 70s flashbacks?

Anyways, can someone answer me this question? When was the last time an artist with as much selling power and as recognizable as Garth came out of retirement and signed a deal with the worlds largest retailer? He's not gonna be putting anything else out for AWHILE I'm sure...this is his last project before he vanishes again. Add that in with his huge fan base and tell me....are you honestly surprised by the push this single and album are gonna be getting?

Me? I'm not. The man paid his dues to get where he is...and that's why so much is put into backing him. When these other artist get there (which they probably never will) they'll get the same type of treatment. Why are people acting surprised? Why are they hating on him for the music industries (in general) problem? The bigger you are...the more money is put into you...not many..if any are bigger.

[rowdawg21]

whynotnow said:

But how do you explain the less then great performance his last out of retirement releases produced? He was still Garth.... Why did they not get the numbers this song did..... Don't get me wrong.. I could really like the song if it was not so overdone....(truth is I'm not a Garth fan) If I'm understanding your post, you're saying anything Garth did after such an absense was going to be big... That didn't happen with the last 2 "un-retirement " efforts
I'm not trying to be a smart alec. I truly want to know what you believe the explaination is

It's already been discussed multiple times in this thread. If you want to know, I'm sure you can find it. I don't feel like explaining things over and over (not that you're the only one asking questions that have already been answered).

[Zazie]

rw318 said:

Are we having 70s flashbacks?

Anyways, can someone answer me this question? When was the last time an artist with as much selling power and as recognizable as Garth came out of retirement and signed a deal with the worlds largest retailer? He's not gonna be putting anything else out for AWHILE I'm sure...this is his last project before he vanishes again. Add that in with his huge fan base and tell me....are you honestly surprised by the push this single and album are gonna be getting?

Me? I'm not. The man paid his dues to get where he is...and that's why so much is put into backing him. When these other artist get there (which they probably never will) they'll get the same type of treatment. Why are people acting surprised? Why are they hating on him for the music industries (in general) problem? The bigger you are...the more money is put into you...not many..if any are bigger.

I don't understand. I thought this album was going to be sold at all retail outlets, not just Wal-mart.

And why is he going to disappear afterwards? Why wouldn't he make a studio album for his new label?

I agree, Garth paid his dues. No more dues than thousands of other singers, but he did pay 'em. Full credit to Garth for that. (I just wish he'd paid them to me. I could use the cash.)

[Deleted]

fischbone said:

Has any artist,in any genre, ever debuted at #1?

If you count the Billboard Hot 100, Michael Jackson was the first to debut a song at N0.1 oin that chart. 'You Are Not Alone' in '95.

If you're talking strickly airplay, I think the closest someone got was N0.2 for Madonna's 'Erotica' in '92. No? Maybe Janet's 'All For You'? (On POP)

[WhySoSerious?]

dsulkers said:

fischbone said:

Has any artist,in any genre, ever debuted at #1?

If you count the Billboard Hot 100, Michael Jackson was the first to debut a song at N0.1 oin that chart. 'You Are Not Alone' in '95.

If you're talking strickly airplay, I think the closest someone got was N0.2 for Madonna's 'Erotica' in '92. No? Maybe Janet's 'All For You'? (On POP)

The Billboard mention about his #1 debut states that other artists have debuted at #1 on Airplay-based charts previously but doesn't mention which artists and songs.

[skipper]

I've been waiting for new Garth music for a long time. I only wish that he was releasing a full studio album of new music but I guess I'll settle for the four new tracks that we are getting. That being said, I am dissapointed in this song. I was expecting a lot, yes, after being away for a period I thought that he would really blow me away with this new single. However, I just made a cross country drive in which I heard this song played over 10 times. I gave it 4 full listens. The following 6 times I changed the station, because I just don't like it.

I wanted to. I treasure my Garth Brooks albums that I do own. I wore out my No Fences cd. But I just can't get my head around this one. I think his voice sounds like it's straining, and I wish I hadn't read an Elton John comparison because now I can't get that out of my head either when I hear this song.

On to the controversy of the record debut. It doesn't give me a good feeling. Even though I don't like the song at all, I could accept a Garth #1 and chalk it up to me having different tastes from some of the radio listening public and pd's etc. You have to allow for the superstar that is Garth and just because a song doesn't blow your doors off doesn't mean it shouldn't go #1. He's a star, no question. But to me it speaks volumes that a song that would gain 34 million in audience in one week on mediabase would leave people so divided about it's quality and legitimacy. I know the charts are not foolproof, and I also know this isn't the first time a label has influenced the success of a single, but this is a bit much. Flame away.

[rw318]

zazie said:

I don't understand. I thought this album was going to be sold at all retail outlets, not just Wal-mart.

And why is he going to disappear afterwards? Why wouldn't he make a studio album for his new label?

I agree, Garth paid his dues. No more dues than thousands of other singers, but he did pay 'em. Full credit to Garth for that. (I just wish he'd paid them to me. I could use the cash.)

It is....but walmart brought him out, gave him the push and made it known he was back (for a limited time...like something at Mcdonalds).

I'm just going off what I read...he said after this CD he was going back to what he was doing before walmart "found" him. He didn't put out any CDs to the best of my knowledge before walmart got to him (I'm sure you know what I mean). He's probably just gonna gather talent for the label I would assume.

He must have.

[whynotnow]

So sorry.... I must have missed that... That's Ok Its not that important...

rowdawg2187 said:

whynotnow said:

But how do you explain the less then great performance his last out of retirement releases produced? He was still Garth.... Why did they not get the numbers this song did..... Don't get me wrong.. I could really like the song if it was not so overdone....(truth is I'm not a Garth fan) If I'm understanding your post, you're saying anything Garth did after such an absense was going to be big... That didn't happen with the last 2 "un-retirement " efforts
I'm not trying to be a smart alec. I truly want to know what you believe the explaination is

It's already been discussed multiple times in this thread. If you want to know, I'm sure you can find it. I don't feel like explaining things over and over (not that you're the only one asking questions that have already been answered).

[lonesomefool]

I prefer Lee Brice's version, less "full". By this I mean the Lee Brice version seems less jacked up on strings.