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Post by Marv on Sept 17, 2007 11:17:20 GMT -5
The record at R&R pre-BB merger is somewhere around 11-12 weeks, due to R&R's much tighter recurrent rules.
I have no idea what the record is at BB, since I don't know how frequently they change their recurrent rules.
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Post by somebody60 on Sept 17, 2007 16:14:28 GMT -5
Moving back Up 8 7 GARTH BROOKS More Than A Memory 3563 3334 229 27.226 Well, that honestly wasnt't too surprising, given the fact that this song was played on all the Weekend Countdown shows for the first time (these shows are always 3 weeks behind the actual charts, and since this song is only 3 weeks old, it never got played on these shows until last weekend). We'll just see what happens through the rest of the week. It'll be interesting.
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Post by someguy on Sept 17, 2007 17:14:46 GMT -5
Ridiculous publicity stunt aside, I have to say that I really like this song. It's probably the first Garth song I've liked since "Why Ain't I Running". It's too bad that its chart run has been tainted, because I think it would've gone to #1 on its own merit.
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Post by Zazie on Sept 20, 2007 20:01:14 GMT -5
Down almost 800k in the first three days of the new week. But there's still time for a few more changes of direction before we find out what's really going to happen.
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Post by Marv on Sept 20, 2007 23:22:33 GMT -5
I know of no countdown shows that are three weeks behind, with the possible exception of Jeff Foxworthy's, which is two weeks behind, according to some posters on this board.
The countdown shows hosted by Bob Kingsley, Crook & Chase, & Lon Helton are most definitely not behind, since the time from the close of the week until the show is first aired is no more than seven days.
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Post by Zazie on Sept 22, 2007 13:12:53 GMT -5
Are you sure, Marv? Because Jonsolo's post on the previous page of this thread talked about wanting to hear Garth's debut on both Kingsley's show and ACC -- and he was expecting that to happen on the same weekend. In which case both of those shows air two weeks behind, because I'm sure ACC runs 2 weeks behind.
And I'd swear he posted somewhere about both debuts, although it's not on this thread.
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Post by WamuFive on Sept 22, 2007 13:32:05 GMT -5
Are you sure, Marv? Because Jonsolo's post on the previous page of this thread talked about wanting to hear Garth's debut on both Kingsley's show and ACC -- and he was expecting that to happen on the same weekend. In which case both of those shows air two weeks behind, because I'm sure ACC runs 2 weeks behind. And I'd swear he posted somewhere about both debuts, although it's not on this thread. It all depends on how you look at it. Consider a hypothetical chart week that covers the days Sep 1 - Sep 7, September 7 being a Sunday. Here's a look at a timeline of events: (1) September 1 - September 7: chart week elapses. On Sep 7, the countdown shows will play a countdown based on an earlier chart. (2) On Thursday, September 11, Billboard will publish their airplay chart online for the chart week of Sep 1 - Sep 7. This chart will be dated September 20 for the magazine date. (3) On Sunday, September 14, the countdown shows will air a countdown based on the chart week ending August 31. (4) The following week, Billboard will release their print version of the chart, all dated for Sep 20. (5) On Sunday, Sep 21, the countdown shows will air their countdowns based on the chart week of Sep 1 - Sep 7, which is printed in the magazine dated for Sep 20. So, to recap, here are the 3 possible ways to look at the "lag time" of the countdown shows: * In real time, the countdown shows are 2 weeks behind. For a chart week that ends on the 7th, the corresponding countdown show will air on the 21st. * Realistically, the countdowns shows are 1 week behind. The soonest they could accurately air a countdown show for the week ending Sep 7 would be Sep 14 (since the chart week would still be in-progress on the 7th), but they do it on Sep 21. * According to the published chart date in Billboard magazine, they are right on schedule. Remember, when Billboard publishes their charts online on Thursdays, the chart date is always 9 days later. So on September 21, the countdown shows base their countdown on the September 20 published magazine chart. Since this is the "official" chart date for a chart, this is probably why the countdown shows wait the extra week to air that particular chart countdown. I hope this made sense!
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Post by WamuFive on Sept 22, 2007 13:44:54 GMT -5
I know of no countdown shows that are three weeks behind, with the possible exception of Jeff Foxworthy's, which is two weeks behind, according to some posters on this board. If Jeff Foxworthy's show is two weeks behind, then it cannot be three weeks behind.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Sept 22, 2007 14:05:11 GMT -5
this song can break another chart record: (since the new recurrent rules started for 2007) most weeks spent on the chart after hitting #1. i think "watching you" has the current record = 6 weeks. "never wanted nothing more" is currently at 4 weeks but could get to a max of 8 weeks for a new record. but "more than a memory" if it doesnt get back to #1 again could break 8 weeks thus giving this song another record which would b very tuff to beat. ...just havn sum chart fun here
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Post by Zazie on Sept 24, 2007 9:35:42 GMT -5
I read it all, wamufan. It took me a few days to find the courage, but I did it. I would call what you are describing "2 weeks behind" because that's how I think, but I understand why someone would call it "1 week behind."
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Post by Lee on Sept 25, 2007 15:35:54 GMT -5
I really like Garth, and listen to Country radio quite often, and have yet to hear this "number one" song.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Sept 25, 2007 15:42:54 GMT -5
I really like Garth, and listen to Country radio quite often, and have yet to hear this "number one" song. try turning the volume knob from off to on
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Post by smack on Sept 25, 2007 18:42:38 GMT -5
You are correct about that...I have posted a couple of times regarding this....very few songs in the last 10 years have even dropped out of the top 40 after hitting #1. The most recent that comes to mind is "round about way" from George Strait. I think it hit low 40s in week 19. that takes us back to what..97? Even some zippy ones up the charts didn't drop below top 40....Have you forgotten is one of those, as well as it's 5 oclock somewhere. I'll have to check on long neck bottle. what is the soundscan era record ?? I don't really know. I'm assuming that no soundscan-era song that reached #1 has fallen off the chart in less than 20 weeks -- but I don't know that for sure. Songs did go up and down faster in the mid-90's and Garth would be a good candidate to have managed to fall off faster. For instance, Longneck Bottle would be a fine candidate -- but I don't think that one did. Now that Garth has righted the ship, he probably won't be freefalling anytime soon.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Sept 25, 2007 18:52:58 GMT -5
7 10 GARTH BROOKS More Than A Memory 2007 Pearl/Big Machine 3353 3554 -201 25.294
I'd rather have a "NWNM" or "LLYWD" chart run than a chart run where you debut at #1 and then drop.
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Post by WamuFive on Sept 25, 2007 19:30:24 GMT -5
7 10 GARTH BROOKS More Than A Memory 2007 Pearl/Big Machine 3353 3554 -201 25.294 I'd rather have a "NWNM" or "LLYWD" chart run than a chart run where you debut at #1 and then drop. I guess it depends on the song. If I wasn't crazy about a song, I don't think I would enjoy a 5+ week run at the top. I haven't heard MTAM too much as of late. I heard it a lot the first week and now it has tapered off quite a bit. I suppose from a practical, day to day perspective, I'm okay with that.
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Post by Marv on Sept 25, 2007 20:14:25 GMT -5
That station in Tampa which played this song 125 times in its opening week didn't do anybody any favors.
Of course, this is the same incompetently managed station which airs Bob Kingsley's 'CT-40 on Sundays---at FIVE A.M.!!!!!
That is so stupid and reprehensible; there aren't nearly enough words in the dictionary to descrtibe how imbecilic that is.
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Post by smack on Sept 26, 2007 7:46:27 GMT -5
lol, tell us how you really feel! j/k
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Sept 26, 2007 14:59:55 GMT -5
You are correct about that...I have posted a couple of times regarding this....very few songs in the last 10 years have even dropped out of the top 40 after hitting #1. The most recent that comes to mind is "round about way" from George Strait. I think it hit low 40s in week 19. that takes us back to what..97? Even some zippy ones up the charts didn't drop below top 40....Have you forgotten is one of those, as well as it's 5 oclock somewhere. I'll have to check on long neck bottle. Longneck Bottle was at #40 on its 19th and 20th weeks (3/28/98 and 4/4/98.) I'm only coming up with nineteen weeks for Round About Way. Can someone please tell me what's missing? Did the song get one week in 1997 as an album cut or something? 1/3/98: #72 1/10: #45 1/17: #36 1/24: #29 1/31: #14 2/7: #10 2/14: #9 2/21: #7 2/28: #4 3/7: #1 3/14: #1 3/21: #2 3/28: #6 4/4: #14 4/11: #25 4/18: #32 4/25: #32 5/2: #36 5/9: #42
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Post by drock89 on Sept 26, 2007 17:12:13 GMT -5
Garth is playing a live show for the first time in I don't know how long. Here's what R&R is reporting:
When Garth Brooks announced plans for his "Ultimate" box set release, he hinted there might be a road trip on the way too -- the kind where he brings musician friends and all his toys. Well, you can put Nov. 14 in your day-timer, because the G-man is set to play the Sprint Center in Kansas City that night, and if he sells enough tickets for that show (like, duh!), he may add another. We understand radio will announce the shows tomorrow (Sept. 27), with details about the ticket on-sale Oct. 3.
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Post by Zazie on Sept 26, 2007 20:38:21 GMT -5
Round About Way did debut on the chart 5/3/97, presumably the album release week.
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Post by kevin59 on Oct 12, 2007 15:04:03 GMT -5
Garth Video Makes Online Debut
Sarah Skates – 10/12/2007
The new Garth Brooks video is debuting exclusively on radio station Web sites Fri., Oct. 19 at 9 AM/CT. A special online “G-Player” will show the video for hit single "More Than A Memory" and will also include commentary, photos, and more. This is all part of the radio campaign for the Nov. 6 release of Garth Brooks: The Ultimate Hits which comes with a one-hour special as well as an on-air and online countdown to release. McCoy & Associates are handling the package for Pearl Records and Big Machine.
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Post by bigbluenote on Oct 12, 2007 16:48:32 GMT -5
I wonder what kind of marketing scheme Garth will come up with next. Dang, is that boy creative or what!
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Post by cufan7 on Oct 12, 2007 21:34:47 GMT -5
This is the first song from Garth that I actually love. I really love this song. Can't wait till it's available on Itunes!
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Post by rowdawg21 on Oct 12, 2007 21:52:44 GMT -5
This is the first song from Garth that I actually love. I really love this song. Can't wait till it's available on Itunes! It's not going to be available on iTunes. You'll have to buy the full album for $11-14 if you want the song. Just curious, how many Garth songs have you heard?
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Post by dcowboy77 on Oct 13, 2007 9:53:03 GMT -5
This is the first song from Garth that I actually love. I really love this song. Can't wait till it's available on Itunes! It's not going to be available on iTunes. You'll have to buy the full album for $11-14 if you want the song. lol....wont it b $9.99 at best buy (my fav), circuit city, or target ??
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Post by drock89 on Oct 13, 2007 12:43:47 GMT -5
Personally, I'm highly curious how this is going to turn out... I'm expecting a chart run to trickle for a while, then drop like a rock, then inch back up, then drop like a rock again. Could it actually return to #1 ten weeks after its debut? Well, it's been interesting thus far, that's for sure. The song hasn't left the top 10, isn't doing all that hot in research, is treading water when it comes to +/- audience impressions, but yet, still could work its way back to #1. The chart run thus far has been: 1-8-7-8-10-9. And according to rowdawg's Billboard prediction thread, the song will either stay at #9 or tick up a slot to #8. But it hasn't gone two weeks consecutively without a bullet, so it's not eligible for recurrency. Pretty amazing, eh?
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Post by Zazie on Oct 13, 2007 12:55:25 GMT -5
It's getting hard for me to believe it could go back to #1, but nothing's impossible. This one still has 14 weeks left on Billboard, whether or not it goes recurrent on MB, and it could easily manage another 5-6 weeks in the top 10, with Brad/B&D/RF falling and Toby about to join that group. You'd think the label would be supporting it at least up through the album release date.
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Post by drock89 on Oct 13, 2007 13:00:38 GMT -5
It's getting hard for me to believe it could go back to #1, but nothing's impossible. This one still has 14 weeks left on Billboard, whether or not it goes recurrent on MB, and it could easily manage another 5-6 weeks in the top 10, with Brad/B&D/RF falling and Toby about to join that group. You'd think the label would be supporting it at least up through the album release date. Which is why I think it's got a great chance to get back up there. There are probably six songs that are/will fall out in the next three weeks. And Garth's album is in stores in four weeks. So BMR should get behind this song again in the coming days.
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Post by WamuFive on Oct 13, 2007 13:05:33 GMT -5
If the song doesn't make a major move by the time the album is released, I expect them (Garth and co.) to pull the plug and release the next single, if it hadn't gone reccurent already. I think two months of lingering in the same spot would be enough--something's gotta give. With that said, I think as the album release date draws nearer, there's a good chance it will get a nice boost--much the same way that "So Small" is shaping up to get one.
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Post by Free2Bme on Oct 17, 2007 9:09:55 GMT -5
The songs is starting to move again. Should be top 5 next week. The album release will certainly take MTAM back to #1. If the song doesn't make a major move by the time the album is released, I expect them (Garth and co.) to pull the plug and release the next single, if it hadn't gone reccurent already. I think two months of lingering in the same spot would be enough--something's gotta give. With that said, I think as the album release date draws nearer, there's a good chance it will get a nice boost--much the same way that "So Small" is shaping up to get one.
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