Billboard Hot 100 : 07/04/2015

[andrea55]

Jun 22, 2015 17:10:32 GMT -5 andrea55 said:

There are many songs that blow up in the US first
Lorde-Royals
Ariana grande- Problem
Iggy azalea- Fancy
Miley Cyrus-We cant stop
Lady Gaga-Pokerface and other songs
Katy perry-i kissed a girl and all of her other singles
Even Taylor swift used to be mostly famous in the US, and these past two albums she became worldwide

[andrea55]

Jun 22, 2015 17:11:04 GMT -5 andrea55 said:

Jun 22, 2015 17:10:32 GMT -5 andrea55 said:

There are many songs that blow up in the US first
Lorde-Royals
Ariana grande- Problem
Iggy azalea- Fancy
Miley Cyrus-We cant stop
Lady Gaga-Pokerface and other songs
Katy perry-i kissed a girl and all of her other singles
Sia-chandelier
Even Taylor swift used to be mostly famous in the US, and these past two albums she became worldwide

[queenkatyfan]

Jun 22, 2015 17:10:32 GMT -5 andrea55 said:

There are many songs that blow up in the US first
Lorde-Royals
Ariana grande- Problem
Iggy azalea- Fancy
Miley Cyrus-We cant stop
Lady Gaga-Pokerface and other songs
Katy perry-i kissed a girl and all of her other singles
Even taglie swift used to be famous only in the US, and these past two albums she became worldwide

Exactly!

[Kurt]

andrea55, I see you're on mobile - if you tap the gear button, then Edit Post, you can edit your post rather than quoting it. :)

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Royals blew up in New Zealand first, then in North America.

[Mikel Echarri]

All About That Bass too

[crystalphnx]

Gaga definitely blew up elsewhere before she did in the US.

While JD was languishing towards the bottom of the Hot 100, it was topping charts in Canada (August '08), Australia (September '08), and probably other places too. It didn't reach No. 1 here until January '09. Since we were behind the times with JD, it was the same story with PF. Australia even got "Eh, Eh" as a single while we caught up. I believe "Eh, Eh", which was the 3rd single down under, was taking off there when JD was really taking off here - we were THAT behind.

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Jun 22, 2015 17:53:17 GMT -5 crystalphnx said:

Gaga definitely blew up elsewhere before she did in the US.

While JD was languishing towards the bottom of the Hot 100, it was topping charts in Canada (August '08), Australia (September '08), and probably other places too. It didn't reach No. 1 here until January '09. Since we were behind the times with JD, it was the same story with PF. Australia even got "Eh, Eh" as a single while we caught up. I believe "Eh, Eh", which was the 3rd single down under, was taking off there when JD was really taking off here - we were THAT behind.

a shame that "Eh, Eh" wasn't a single in NA too :( I liked that song a lot

[ry4n]

Yeah the US was very late with Royals and Poker Face. Even Fancy had debuted and peaked in the UK before it reached #1 in the US (hell, the UK was stanning for Iggy since "Work" in the spring of 2013).

All About That Bass had already spent 3 weeks at #1 in Australia before it went #1 in the US

You could make a case for hyped up lead singles from big US names (Roar, Shake It Off, Born This Way, etc), but they smash instantly everywhere.

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But I think we should all agree about "problem" which smashed earlier in US than anywhere else!

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Jun 22, 2015 21:15:30 GMT -5 @smirjal said:

But I think we should all agree about "problem" which smashed earlier in US than anywhere else!

acrually it smashed in Canada at the same time too :)

[crystalphnx]

Jun 22, 2015 21:27:32 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Jun 22, 2015 21:15:30 GMT -5 @smirjal said:

But I think we should all agree about "problem" which smashed earlier in US than anywhere else!

acrually it smashed in Canada at the same time too :)

Yeah, it debuted in the Top 5 in Australia at the same time too.

It didn't chart in the UK until months later because it wasn't released until then. As soon as it was released in the UK, it debuted at No. 1. There's a difference between something not charting because it simply isn't available to purchase, like "Problem" in the UK, VS something like "Just Dance" in the US, where the buying public just passed on while it was topping charts elsewhere.

[Deleted]

I already said a song in USA that was smashed there before other countries and was 1st country to have that song as Number 1, Katy Perry - Dark Horse

[wjr15]

Jun 22, 2015 16:50:08 GMT -5 queenkatyfan said:

Lean On, Cheerleader, and Fight Song all deserve a chance at #1! See You Again needs to fall off the top. If those three songs can't go #1, at least let Bad Blood go #1.

I would love to see all three go #1 this summer. Would make up for slow first half of the year.

[lyhom]

yeah the uk charts are kind of weird since they have a release system that's pretty unique for the country

[ry4n]

And I already said that Dark Horse smashed in Australia first

You'd have to go back before the Internet / Digital Song age to find songs that smashed in the US first, and then delayed everywhere else. The world is much more connected nowadays.

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Jun 22, 2015 22:04:34 GMT -5 @walker9 said:

I already said a song in USA that was smashed there before other countries and was 1st country to have that song as Number 1, Katy Perry - Dark Horse

Reached #1 in USA and Canada simultaneously IIRC

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Jun 22, 2015 22:39:05 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Jun 22, 2015 22:04:34 GMT -5 @walker9 said:

I already said a song in USA that was smashed there before other countries and was 1st country to have that song as Number 1, Katy Perry - Dark Horse

Reached #1 in USA and Canada simultaneously IIRC

No it reached USA at Number 1 1st, then the week after it reached Number 1 in Canada

[wjr15]

Jun 22, 2015 22:46:40 GMT -5 @walker9 said:

Jun 22, 2015 22:39:05 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Reached #1 in USA and Canada simultaneously IIRC

No it reached USA at Number 1 1st, then the week after it reached Number 1 in Canada

One week doesn't make a big difference. Dark Horse smashed around the same time in both countries.

[badrobot]

There are songs that got big in the U.S. fairly late that never got that big elsewhere too -- like "Lights" for example.

If I recall, Robyn's first few singles were big pretty much only in the U.S. and Sweden?

But I can't think of songs that were global smashes that started significantly earlier in the US

[lyhom]

"Rockstar" by Nickelback peaked at #2 in the UK in 2008, after a rerelease and a good two years after it was first released as a single in the US, which also caused two other singles from the album it came from ("Photograph" and "Far Away") to be rereleased in the same year, although as I said the UK has a much different conventions on release dates so idk

"My Neck, My Back" by Khia hit #4 in the UK in late 2004, a good two years after it only peaked at #42 in the US, so idk

(I'd also mention "Ordinary People" by John Legend hitting #4 in the UK in 2012-ish, but that was due to a performance on their version of The Voice rather than a technical rerelease so I decided to not include it)

[Au$tin]

Jun 22, 2015 22:04:34 GMT -5 @walker9 said:

I already said a song in USA that was smashed there before other countries and was 1st country to have that song as Number 1, Katy Perry - Dark Horse

This really isn't all that exciting since it's Katy Perry, an international superstar. "Dark Horse" just luckily managed a #1 peak in the US before anywhere else, but it's not like "Dark Horse" was completely unheard of it other countries before then. That's really what this discussion is looking for: songs that broke in the US before anywhere else. That doesn't translate to #1 before anywhere else.

Frankly, I'm not completely sure of that last song to break in the US before anywhere else. More than likely, it's a country song that crossed over: "Need You Now," "Before He Cheats," "Love Story," etc.

[ry4n]

Country songs struggle WW though. "Need You Now" missed the top 10 entirely in most countries, for instance. And "Before He Cheats" literally did nothing outside of Canada and the US.

[Mikel Echarri]

Imma Be by BEP only was a hit in USA and Canada (because Rock That Body was released as a single worldwide instead)

[andrea55]

Jun 23, 2015 0:00:56 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jun 22, 2015 22:04:34 GMT -5 @walker9 said:

I already said a song in USA that was smashed there before other countries and was 1st country to have that song as Number 1, Katy Perry - Dark Horse

This really isn't all that exciting since it's Katy Perry, an international superstar. "Dark Horse" just luckily managed a #1 peak in the US before anywhere else, but it's not like "Dark Horse" was completely unheard of it other countries before then. That's really what this discussion is looking for: songs that broke in the US before anywhere else. That doesn't translate to #1 before anywhere else.

Frankly, I'm not completely sure of that last song to break in the US before anywhere else. More than likely, it's a country song that crossed over: "Need You Now," "Before He Cheats," "Love Story," etc.

I'm pretty sure all about that bass and problem broke out in the US

[felipe]

Jun 22, 2015 22:33:50 GMT -5 ry4n said:

You'd have to go back before the Internet / Digital Song age to find songs that smashed in the US first, and then delayed everywhere else. The world is much more connected nowadays.

Didn't it happen to All about that bass?

[felipe]

Jun 22, 2015 22:18:51 GMT -5 lyhom said:

yeah the uk charts are kind of weird since they have a release system that's pretty unique for the country

I'm quite intrigued by the UK system. Why does it take so long for singles to be commercially released there? Take Black Magig, for instance. The song and video have been out for like a month, but the single will only be "released" in the middle of July. Why is that?

[Dylan :)]

Latch took off in the US and Canada later than everywhere else

[weaver]

I'm surprised Maroon 5's "This Summer" seems to have hit a brick wall...it hasn't done well in sales (for them) so maybe it was getting bad call-out scores? Maybe the excessive use of the F word was too much? It's surprising, because it seems engineered to keep their streak of top 10s alive, and it looks like it's going to peak outside the top 20 unless it gets a second wind...

[KeepDeanWeird]

Jun 23, 2015 1:29:37 GMT -5 ry4n said:

Country songs struggle WW though. "Need You Now" missed the top 10 entirely in most countries, for instance. And "Before He Cheats" literally did nothing outside of Canada and the US.

Great post that actually highlights the double standard applied to US as 'not being open' to certain 'WW hits,' that most likely electronic, dance or pure pop. It's as if US radio, consumers are somehow 'closeminded' to these songs/genres rather than the fact that each territory has different tastes. And let's not forget that most of the countries that we mention are the size of states with far less diverse populations than the U.S. Also it takes a lot money and effort to break into the U.S. Again it's a big country with a lot of regional differences. Seriously how many stations are there in UK/Austrailia/Germany v trying to crack a major radio format here?