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Post by Kurt on Oct 20, 2015 18:55:38 GMT -5
Hasn't Carrie been ranking higher than 5SOS on those online pre-order sites? Right now, yes, but the 5SOS pre-order has been up since mid-August, so they've had weeks to build up sales. They got 50k in the first weekend and, though I can't find confirmation now, thought I'd read that they'd reached 150k. 300k is the most recent prediction for 5SOS from HITS - I don't see Carrie getting that high at all.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Oct 20, 2015 19:20:10 GMT -5
5SOS fans are waiting for Target...like alot of Carrie fans...both have special versions there. A lot were preorders on 5SOS's site to get a special seating code with a CD purchase for their tour that goes on sale Friday to coo-inside with the release. I'm a huge 5SOS fan so I know the inner workings of the release. Their album actually has been leaked cause a Target somewhere put their album out LAST Friday. Thankfully they didn't do that to Carrie too! I've got both Carrie and 5SOS's albums on preorder thru Itunes, their Vinyl releases, and I will buy them at Target. I'm looking forward big time to Friday! 5SOS has a rabid fanbase just slightly smaller than 1D's. I have no doubt they will get #1, and Carrie #2. I'm not saying that's my wish, I'm just saying that's the smart bet.
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Post by desertfloods on Oct 20, 2015 20:31:21 GMT -5
^ Wow, happy day for you this Friday!! :)
Thanks for all the replies!!
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Oct 20, 2015 21:52:39 GMT -5
If Storyteller ended up at #2, then i'll be fine as long as it debuted with over 185k.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 20, 2015 22:29:58 GMT -5
What are the chances Storyteller could move to #1 in its 2nd week? I bet Carrie holds on better than 5SOS, but I don't know if there is major competition the next week.
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Post by musicrocks on Oct 21, 2015 0:29:43 GMT -5
If Storyteller ended up at #2, then i'll be fine as long as it debuted with over 185k. I'm pretty confident that she'll cross 200k. I know she has sold well through the holidays and fall/winter months before but with the sales slump this year, does anyone think she'll past 500k sold by the end of the year? P.S - I know this is old but I think this is the first time I've seen the video for it (didn't know it was posted by her official page). It's outstanding what a career she has had. Can't wait until Friday!!
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 21, 2015 1:53:42 GMT -5
"Heartbeat" debuted at #26 on Hot Country Songs this past week. Randomly, it also debuted on the Scottish Singles Chart at #80...so there's that.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Oct 21, 2015 2:03:47 GMT -5
Yay! We finally have a schedule for Ellen. October 27!!! ETA: October 22- iHeartCountry Album Release Party 22- *replay* Jimmy Fallon (NBC) 23- Today Show (NBC) 27- Ellen 27- Jimmy Kimmel Live (ABC) (no official announcement yet; confirmed from ticket site) November 2- Country's Greatest Crossover Hits (ABC) 4- CMA Awards (ABC) 5- Project Runway Finale (Lifetime) December 6- Sinatra 100-- An All-Star Grammy Concert (CBS) Spying on Carrie's competition, 5 SOS will be on Ellen Oct. 23rd + Today show Oct 28th. Andrea Bocelli will be on Live w/ Kelly & Michael Oct. 28th. Blake Shelton will be on Seth Meyers Oct 27th.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Oct 21, 2015 3:28:23 GMT -5
Yay more promo!!
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 21, 2015 6:28:20 GMT -5
LOVE that the promo is spread out through the week. Hoping for one or two more appearances, but I have a feeling this will be it... which is fine. We still have the Target announcement today, and I'm sure social media will be buzzing big time, too. I'm feeling very good about the opening week! Also, Carrie will be attending the AMAs. Considering they're announcing three performers today, I think she'll probably be on that list. www.kixbrooksradio.com/2015/10/21/meet-carrie-underwood/
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Post by leilamaurizia on Oct 21, 2015 8:01:48 GMT -5
AMA performance confirmed! Gomez, Underwood to perform at American Music AwardsETA: October 22- iHeartCountry Album Release Party 22- *replay* Jimmy Fallon (NBC) 23- Today Show (NBC) 27- Ellen 27- Jimmy Kimmel Live (ABC) (no official announcement yet; confirmed from ticket site) November 2- Country's Greatest Crossover Hits (ABC) 4- CMA Awards (ABC) 5- Project Runway Finale (Lifetime) 22- American Music Awards December 6- Sinatra 100-- An All-Star Grammy Concert (CBS) Spying on Carrie's competition, 5 SOS will be on Ellen Oct. 23rd + Today show Oct 28th + AMAs Nov. 22nd. Andrea Bocelli will be on Live w/ Kelly & Michael Oct. 28th. Blake Shelton will be on Seth Meyers Oct 27th.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 21, 2015 8:02:07 GMT -5
If Storyteller ended up at #2, then i'll be fine as long as it debuted with over 185k. Considering the buzz for Storyteller, it had better open north of 250,000.
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Post by ant on Oct 21, 2015 8:32:39 GMT -5
Hopefully she will be performing her 2nd single at the AMAs and not "Smoke Break".
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 21, 2015 8:42:45 GMT -5
Hopefully she will be performing her 2nd single at the AMAs and not "Smoke Break". I am sure by then she will be onto another song. That's over a month away, and "Smoke Break" will have surely/hopefully peaked. Anyway, I just watched this for the first time in awhile: I've always loved Carrie's verse there, and the reaction of Buble (that "whoa" move) and Bennett (a smile/laugh) are great. It's interesting how she and Tony stayed connected after that performance. He gave her great cheer when she did "The Sound of Music" and then of course had her on his last duets album (and then on Blue Bloods and on the Grammys).
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 21, 2015 8:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by leilamaurizia on Oct 21, 2015 9:03:56 GMT -5
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Post by spencer on Oct 21, 2015 9:14:52 GMT -5
This reviewer must have taken all of 2 minutes to write this review. So he says the songs are inconsistent, whatever that means. Nevertheless he gives it a B+.........talk about inconsistent. Underwood won AI ten years ago, she's moved on, wish some reviewers would do the same. Lazy, lazy piece of sh...work. I don't think this is a reviewer metacritic uses for their scoring. It is 'metacritic' that tabulates album review scores, right?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 21, 2015 9:22:03 GMT -5
This reviewer must have taken all of 2 minutes to write this review. So he says the songs are inconsistent, whatever that means. Nevertheless he gives it a B+.........talk about inconsistent. Underwood won AI ten years ago, she's moved on, wish some reviewers would do the same. Lazy, lazy piece of sh...work. I don't think this is a reviewer metacritic uses for their scoring. It is 'metacritic' that tabulates album review scores, right? It is, and this is not used for Metacritic... thank god! Looks like a freshman journalism student's rushed homework assignment.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Oct 21, 2015 9:25:11 GMT -5
Glenn Gamboa, yes? I don't think I can ever take his reviews or any Carrie-related opinion seriously. I can remember his name from Carrie's early days as one of her most vicious detractors. Even now, with that B+? No thanks.
So... what are the chances that "Heartbeat" will be the next single? I know she's performing it for Target because the acoustic version is one of their exclusive tracks, but the fact that they did an acoustic version makes it safe to assume it's been chosen as a single, yeah? The only question is... is it 2nd, 3rd or 4th?
Did you guys hear Carrie's recent interview when she said "Smoke Break" wasn't her choice as the lead single? I wonder what song she wanted.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 21, 2015 9:36:57 GMT -5
Glenn Gamboa, yes? I don't think I can ever take his reviews or any Carrie-related opinion seriously. I can remember his name from Carrie's early days as one of her most vicious detractors. Even now, with that B+? No thanks. So... what are the chances that "Heartbeat" will be the next single? I know she's performing it for Target because the acoustic version is one of their exclusive tracks, but the fact that they did an acoustic version makes it safe to assume it's been chosen as a single, yeah? The only question is... is it 2nd, 3rd or 4th? Did you guys hear Carrie's recent interview when she said "Smoke Break" wasn't her choice as the lead single? I wonder what song she wanted. I wondered that, too. I think she probably would have chosen "Runaway Renegade" as it's the album opener... Carrie's past two album openers were also lead singles... Just a guess, though. And yes, I think "Heartbeat" will be a single, and I think it'll be the next one. The more I listen, the more I think it would make for a great single. It's very catchy, sing-along-able, simple, and a perfect fit for country radio --- it also has some crossover potential, in my opinion. In addition, I think it would be a great winter single that would lead nicely right into Valentine's Day and early Spring. It's a very safe choice, but based on its performance in sales last week and the buzz it received, I think it would be a smart choice as single #2.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 21, 2015 9:51:18 GMT -5
1. Why do some of you seem to think "inconsistent" and "B+" mutually exclusive? A B+ is a solid score, but obviously not a perfect one. Also, I can't say it happened here, but it's fairly normal for an editor to change the tone and even score of a review to reflect the magazine/paper as a whole. So, it's possible the individual Newsday reviewer had given it a B or had written a little more than was printed, but it got changed by the editor. 2. Over the years I've seen people talk about "crossover potential" with Carrie songs/singles, but it's been clear Carrie doesn't seek that at all. So, why does it matter? Or more so, what are you all thinking about when you talk about crossover potential? 3. "Heartbeat" might make a fine radio single, but I wish she would get riskier with her single choices. On nearly all of her albums some of the 'best' songs went unheard by the public. Why release "Heartbeat" as a single when it seems like there will be at least 3-4 songs (if not more) that are better?
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Post by leilamaurizia on Oct 21, 2015 10:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 21, 2015 10:11:30 GMT -5
1. Why do some of you seem to think "inconsistent" and "B+" mutually exclusive? A B+ is a solid score, but obviously not a perfect one. Also, I can't say it happened here, but it's fairly normal for an editor to change the tone and even score of a review to reflect the magazine/paper as a whole. So, it's possible the individual Newsday reviewer had given it a B or had written a little more than was printed, but it got changed by the editor. 2. Over the years I've seen people talk about "crossover potential" with Carrie songs/singles, but it's been clear Carrie doesn't seek that at all. So, why does it matter? Or more so, what are you all thinking about when you talk about crossover potential?3. "Heartbeat" might make a fine radio single, but I wish she would get riskier with her single choices. On nearly all of her albums some of the 'best' songs went unheard by the public. Why release "Heartbeat" as a single when it seems like there will be at least 3-4 songs (if not more) that are better?Carrie doesn't strive for crossovers, but that doesn't mean they can't happen. Until recently, country crossovers usually happened on their own: "Before He Cheats" comes to mind. The song was pushed after the fact that it was already doing amazingly well across multiple genres. I don't think anyone wants or expects Carrie to set adds dates for different genres, but I think there's a decent chance "Heartbeat" could gain some moderate traction at Pop/AC formats. That's what I mean by "crossover potential". I doubt it'll happen, but there's a chance... And I agree, I'd rather Carrie take risks at radio, but I think releasing "Heartbeat" would essentially be throwing them a bone. I think it would be a huge hit for Carrie; it's the one kind of song Carrie has never released to radio, a love song. I'd be interested, in the very least, to see how it does. Based on its overall reception, though, I think it's a safe choice, but also the most logical one in terms of initial reception.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 21, 2015 10:18:09 GMT -5
Anyone else having trouble with the link?
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Post by leilamaurizia on Oct 21, 2015 10:26:18 GMT -5
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 21, 2015 10:36:18 GMT -5
That Country Outfitter review is EXCELLENT!
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Post by malwaredie on Oct 21, 2015 10:40:51 GMT -5
Carrie doesn't strive for crossovers, but that doesn't mean they can't happen. Until recently, country crossovers usually happened on their own: "Before He Cheats" comes to mind. The song was pushed after the fact that it was already doing amazingly well across multiple genres. I don't think anyone wants or expects Carrie to set adds dates for different genres, but I think there's a decent chance "Heartbeat" could gain some moderate traction at Pop/AC formats. That's what I mean by "crossover potential". I doubt it'll happen, but there's a chance... Arista Nashville doesn't have the resources to make crossovers happen in any significant way. Carrie's team initially had backing outside of country, and that's part of the reason Before He Cheats crossed over. Carrie has released a love song, I Told You So, and it did quite well with regards to sales, but I don't think (I'm guessing) it's entirely for the reason some people think. I think part of it had to do with the song attracting a crowd who would like to hear Carrie record music that sounds more country. I think when you gauge overall reception it can be misleading unless you observe where the bulk of that reception is coming from. Much of it (for Heartbeat) appears to be from her base of supporters (who didn't like Smoke Break and preferred it if she didn't go down in that direction) and some big Sam Hunt fans. And considering it is being single out by reviewers as a weaker track, I don't think it being a logical choice for a single is entirely clear.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 21, 2015 10:46:53 GMT -5
Carrie doesn't strive for crossovers, but that doesn't mean they can't happen. Until recently, country crossovers usually happened on their own: "Before He Cheats" comes to mind. The song was pushed after the fact that it was already doing amazingly well across multiple genres. I don't think anyone wants or expects Carrie to set adds dates for different genres, but I think there's a decent chance "Heartbeat" could gain some moderate traction at Pop/AC formats. That's what I mean by "crossover potential". I doubt it'll happen, but there's a chance... Arista Nashville doesn't have the resources to make crossovers happen in any significant way. Carrie's team initially had backing outside of country, and that's why part of the reason Before He Cheats crossed over. Carrie has released a love song, I Told You So, and it did quite well with regards to sales, but I don't think (I'm guessing) it's entirely for the reason some people think. I think part of it had to do with the song attracting a crowd who would like to hear Carrie record music that sounds more country. I think when you gauge overall reception it can be misleading unless you observe where the bulk of that reception is coming from. Much of it (for Heartbeat) appears to be from her base of supporters (who didn't like Smoke Break and preferred it if she didn't go down in that direction) and some big Sam Hunt fans. And considering it is being single out by reviewers as a weaker track, I don't think it being a logical choice for a single is entirely clear. I'm not saying "Heartbeat" would become a crossover smash, I'm just saying it could gain some traction on other formats... without help. BHC wasn't initially helped, but received a push after it was already doing well across multiple formats. Also, "I Told You So" isn't really a love song... It's a break up song about moving on and finding someone new. "Heartbeat", if it becomes a single, would be Carrie's first true genuine love song released as a single. I would just be interested to see how it does. It's easy to listen to, cute, and catchy --- everything that seems to do well on country radio, so I think it would do really well. And its initial reception, despite what caused it, doesn't hurt the argument that it would make sense as a single, either. I wouldn't be upset if it doesn't become a single, but I wouldn't be mad to see it released, either... I'm impartial, I guess. It may be a "weaker" track, but that's based on critical reception --- which hardly has any weight regarding radio performance.
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Post by malwaredie on Oct 21, 2015 10:53:11 GMT -5
Arista Nashville doesn't have the resources to make crossovers happen in any significant way. Carrie's team initially had backing outside of country, and that's why part of the reason Before He Cheats crossed over. Carrie has released a love song, I Told You So, and it did quite well with regards to sales, but I don't think (I'm guessing) it's entirely for the reason some people think. I think part of it had to do with the song attracting a crowd who would like to hear Carrie record music that sounds more country. I think when you gauge overall reception it can be misleading unless you observe where the bulk of that reception is coming from. Much of it (for Heartbeat) appears to be from her base of supporters (who didn't like Smoke Break and preferred it if she didn't go down in that direction) and some big Sam Hunt fans. And considering it is being single out by reviewers as a weaker track, I don't think it being a logical choice for a single is entirely clear. I'm not saying "Heartbeat" would become a crossover smash, I'm just saying it could gain some traction on other formats... without help. BHC wasn't initially helped, but received a push after it was already doing well across multiple formats. Also, "I Told You So" isn't really a love song... It's a break up song about moving on and finding someone new. "Heartbeat", if it becomes a single, would be Carrie's first true genuine love song released as a single. I would just be interested to see how it goes. It's easy to listen to, cute, and catchy --- everything that seems to do well on country radio, so I think it would do really well. And its initial reception, despite what caused it, doesn't hurt the argument that it would make sense as a single, either. Well, I Told You So's content is mostly regarding a post-breakup situation, but I do think the subject character in the song is still in love, and in that sense, I'd argue it is a love song. Anyway, is there a precedence for this to work for females? Most females are struggling in some way on country radio, and many of the big hits (from females) take months and months to make it to the top of the charts. I don't see a clear indication of a 'formula' that works for females in country radio.
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