jptexas
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Post by jptexas on Oct 30, 2015 10:14:45 GMT -5
Almost 180k, not bad. She'll probably be number one next week, unless something weird happens.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Oct 30, 2015 10:17:12 GMT -5
Great numbers!
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Post by ctquartzsongbird on Oct 30, 2015 11:38:06 GMT -5
well that all depends on who is released this week she'll difinately stay #1 on country albums until the week after next because Tim McGraw's new album comes out next Friday
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 30, 2015 12:23:07 GMT -5
In terms of Carrie's albums having longevity (and the singles selling the album), I thought I'd look at what % the opening week has represented for her sales:
Some Hearts - 315,000/7.4 million (4.2%) Carnival Ride - 527,000/3.4 million (15.5%) Play On - 318,000/2.3 million (13.8%) Blown Away - 267,000/1.7 million (15.7%)
So, yeah, her opening sales have always been under 20% of her total sales. Interestingly Play On had her best longevity with sales other than her debut. I didn't expect that. Carnival Ride held on the least when you consider it had 5 singles, but since it's her biggest opening it would make sense that would account for more of its total sales.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 30, 2015 12:33:47 GMT -5
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 30, 2015 13:32:38 GMT -5
Global charting information will start pouring in throughout the day today. Debuts in New Zealand at 13, her highest-charting there over Blown Away, which peaked at 22. "Smoke Break" went #1 in Australia! #2 on the Billboard 200, #2 on the Billboard 200 Sales, and #1 on Country Albums, as we all expected. 179k -- I'm sure the Miranda Lambert stans will have a field day with that one. ( Platinum opened with 180k in June 2014.) What I wasn't expecting was... Belgian Albums (Flanders) - #87 Belgian Albums (Wallonia) - #193 Dutch Albums - #67 Irish Albums - #18 UK Albums - #13 UK Country Albums - #1 I have no idea what the difference is between the two Belgian Albums charts, but I really don't care because I didn't think she was even anyone's afterthought in Belgium, let alone of their interest. The global promo they've been working on with her since Play On has really been paying off.
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jptexas
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Post by jptexas on Oct 30, 2015 14:17:00 GMT -5
Yea, Mirands blew right by Carrie by 1K. You think Sonething Bad might have been a factor? Uh, duh. Good for Miranda though it's not how you start out but how you finish. Storyteller will outsell Platinum in the end. Just a guess, but a good one.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 30, 2015 15:01:56 GMT -5
Global charting information will start pouring in throughout the day today. Debuts in New Zealand at 13, her highest-charting there over Blown Away, which peaked at 22. "Smoke Break" went #1 in Australia! #2 on the Billboard 200, #2 on the Billboard 200 Sales, and #1 on Country Albums, as we all expected. 179k sold -- I'm sure the Miranda Lambert stans will have a field day with that one. ( Platinum opened with 180k sold in June 2014.) What I wasn't expecting was... Belgian Albums (Flanders) - #87 Belgian Albums (Wallonia) - #193 Dutch Albums - #67 Irish Albums - #18 UK Albums - #13 UK Country Albums - #1 I have no idea what the difference is between the two Belgian Albums charts, but I really don't care because I didn't think she was even anyone's afterthought in Belgium, let alone of their interest. The global promo they've been working on with her since Play On has really been paying off. Belgium is divided into two parts, a Dutch speaking part (Flanders) and a French speaking part (Wallonia). I could get into the history, but you said you don't care so I'll leave it at what I said... Lol
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 30, 2015 15:16:25 GMT -5
Was it 179k sold? I thought that figure included streaming.
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Post by dfrogger on Oct 30, 2015 15:44:35 GMT -5
I usually only read the comments on here as you all are so much more knowledgeable and captivating in your writing techniques ;) But i am surprised that no one seems disappointed in the CD sales. I am disappointed!!! except for the greatest hits cd I never expected a CU cd to sell under 200,000 the first week. Makes me sad and makes me wonder if this is the changing of the guard moment for Carrie.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 30, 2015 16:30:12 GMT -5
I usually only read the comments on here as you all are so much more knowledgeable and captivating in your writing techniques ;) But i am surprised that no one seems disappointed in the CD sales. I am disappointed!!! except for the greatest hits cd I never expected a CU cd to sell under 200,000 the first week. Makes me sad and makes me wonder if this is the changing of the guard moment for Carrie. At first I thought I'd be, but 180k really isn't bad considering album sales these days. I think it's important to remember (at least for me) that the last time I truly paid attention to album sales was when "Blown Away" came out; that was over three years ago. I think a lot of my assumptions were based on what happened with Carrie's last album. But Carrie's opening sales this week are very much in line with what should be expected of someone of her caliber. And, all that matters with album sales is how you finish. No one talks about "Some Hearts'" opening weeks sales, they talk about how the album has sold well over 7 million copies.
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Post by ant on Oct 30, 2015 17:00:47 GMT -5
I know commercial success isn't everything, but I just can't help but wonder if Carrie at least pushed SOME of her pop-leaning songs to other formats how much bigger her numbers and her audience would be. To think that there was a time when she and Taylor Swift were at the same level of popularity and were getting compared to each other, to see Taylor surpassing her so much as far as sales, concert attendance, etc go is crazy. I could see if Carrie wanted to "stay true to the country format" by releasing music that is strictly country. But so much of her material is contemporary and pop-leaning so I don't understand why she or her team has no interest in taking advantage of that. I'm not saying they should try to make her into some pop format monster or even remix her songs. But at least putting an adds date out there for songs like "Good Girl" and "Blown Away" with a little bit of promo, I think would've helped her tremendously.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 30, 2015 17:03:03 GMT -5
It's not 180k in "sales," though. It sold 169k, and then it as a 179k total from sales "plus streaming." Right?
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 31, 2015 3:18:23 GMT -5
#4 on Australia ARIA Albums Chart, #1 on Australia ARIA Country It's not 180k in "sales," though. It sold 169k, and then it as a 179k total from sales "plus streaming." Right? Correct -- my apologies for saying "sold" in my original post. Edited!
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 31, 2015 8:19:43 GMT -5
I said this to my manager yesterday, whose daughter is a huge Carrie Underwood fan: Underwood will debut at #1 country and #2 top 200 for Storyteller. She has the same number of #1 country albums as Dolly Parton.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Oct 31, 2015 8:57:51 GMT -5
Looks like "Heartbeat" is the second single if this tour ad is any indication. Storyteller is described as "featuring Smoke Break and Heartbeat".
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Post by countrygirl918 on Oct 31, 2015 11:42:12 GMT -5
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Oct 31, 2015 11:58:53 GMT -5
Looks like Heartbeat is the second single. Definitely getting a duet treatment featuring Sam Hunt for the second verse.
As much as i love Heartbeat, but i really want to see sassy Carrie back. Dirty Laundry please!!!!
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 31, 2015 12:00:02 GMT -5
Ugh @ the possibility of "Heartbeat" of all songs being the one performed at a multi-genre promo opportunity like the AMAs. Not here for it.
In other news, I'll be taking my chances with the FC M&G entries instead of paying for one because I sure as hell don't have $800 lying around anywhere.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 31, 2015 12:10:52 GMT -5
I'm totally here for "Heartbeat"... Hope it smashes! Just a quick thought, though, I hope no legal troubles ensue with the song. Sam Hunt is merely a background vocalist on the song. If Carrie's team is planning to market "Heartbeat" as a duet, or even a feature, I hope they have their bases covered... Although a legal battle could be great exposure! I doubt any legal issues will come up, but it was just a thought... Also, I'll be taking my chances with the random M&G draw, too. I'm shocked Carrie is okay with charging for M&Gs... I find it to be a slap in the face to fan club members who pay annual fees just for the opportunity. I get that it's a business, but there's something very distasteful about paying money just to be in the presence of someone famous .
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 31, 2015 14:16:47 GMT -5
Is it me or could "Dirty Laundry" have a great line dance to go with it? The beat seems perfect for it, especially as it goes into the chorus.
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Post by _adriano. on Oct 31, 2015 15:24:22 GMT -5
I don't see "Heartbeat" being released as a duet for a couple of reasons. First of all, the song seems to be told from a female perspective and I don't think it'd make much sense for a male vocalist to sing it, even if it's the second verse ("We'll make a fallen star wish, one more slow kiss, what are we waiting on?" really?). Also, if it were supposed to be released as a duet, why wouldn't they have done it already and released with the album? It wouldn't make sense, IMO, to record it as a duet later and release as a single a version that isn't featured on the album.
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Post by malwaredie on Oct 31, 2015 15:58:52 GMT -5
There are few songs on Carrie's albums that make me feel this way, but I do believe that Heartbeat will be a severe misstep if it ends up being released. Be prepared for what you wish for guys with its "CROSSOVER POTENTIAL!" as the big reason for it being released. I think it's possible that Storyteller flatlines and falls below 3K in the winter months if it happens and that even a big hit after Heartbeat might struggle to resuscitate it, resulting it the era ending early with 4 singles even though this album could go past that. And god forbid what would happen if ST sells fewer copies than Platinum in the long run.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 31, 2015 17:31:16 GMT -5
There are few songs on Carrie's albums that make me feel this way, but I do believe that Heartbeat will be a severe misstep if it ends up being released. Be prepared for what you wish for guys with its "CROSSOVER POTENTIAL!" as the big reason for it being released. I think it's possible that Storyteller flatlines and falls below 3K in the winter months if it happens and that even a big hit after Heartbeat might struggle to resuscitate it, resulting it the era ending early with 4 singles even though this album could go past that. And god forbid what would happen if ST sells fewer copies than Platinum in the long run. I doubt this would ever happen. The song received a very warm reception upon its release. It may not smash or crossover, but I definitely don't think it would flop. But only time will tell!
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 31, 2015 17:39:20 GMT -5
I don't see "Heartbeat" being released as a duet for a couple of reasons. First of all, the song seems to be told from a female perspective and I don't think it'd make much sense for a male vocalist to sing it, even if it's the second verse ("We'll make a fallen star wish, one more slow kiss, what are we waiting on?" really?). Also, if it were supposed to be released as a duet, why wouldn't they have done it already and released with the album? It wouldn't make sense, IMO, to record it as a duet later and release as a single a version that isn't featured on the album. Well, it happened when Carrie turned "I Told You So" into a duet, so why don't you think it could happen again? I am not saying it will happen, just saying there is precedent so I don't see why you think it wouldn't make sense.
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Post by _adriano. on Oct 31, 2015 20:10:12 GMT -5
I don't see "Heartbeat" being released as a duet for a couple of reasons. First of all, the song seems to be told from a female perspective and I don't think it'd make much sense for a male vocalist to sing it, even if it's the second verse ("We'll make a fallen star wish, one more slow kiss, what are we waiting on?" really?). Also, if it were supposed to be released as a duet, why wouldn't they have done it already and released with the album? It wouldn't make sense, IMO, to record it as a duet later and release as a single a version that isn't featured on the album. Well, it happened when Carrie turned "I Told You So" into a duet, so why don't you think it could happen again? I am not saying it will happen, just saying there is precedent so I don't see why you think it wouldn't make sense. I don't know, but it seems like two different situations to me. I can't say for sure, but it seems like they didn't intend to release ITYS as a duet from the beginning, but it was an idea that came up after the album was released; whereas "Heartbeat" has Sam doing background vocals, so I guess if a duet was something they had in mind, it would make more sense to record it and include it on the album.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 31, 2015 21:33:05 GMT -5
HDD's new release forecast:
ONE-DAYS: NOW IS THE TIME FOR NEW RELEASES NOW/UMe's Now 56 leads the week's pack of new releases; here's how the latest batch of debuts is shaping up, based on very early reads:
Now 56 (NOW/UMe) 55-60k Def Leppard (Mailboat) 20-25k/21-26k We Love Disney (Verve) 16-19k, 18-21k The Neighbourhood (Columbia) 17-20k. 19-22k
Looks like Carrie stands a great chance at #1 next week! Going off her album sales alone (rounding to 160k), a 60% drop next week would bring her to 64k sold. So without even considering streaming data, Carrie would lead (assuming 5SOS falls much harder than Carrie, which seems plausible). It could end up being close between 5SOS and Carrie again... I look forward to seeing their projections, fingers crossed Carrie comes out on top! Although the numbers aren't amazing, rising from #2 to #1 on the BB200 simply looks incredible. Keep streaming, guys!
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 31, 2015 22:49:33 GMT -5
With the promo she's got lined up, it wouldn't shock me to see it happen. Fingers crossed there are no surprised releases.
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 1, 2015 6:39:13 GMT -5
60% would be a great drop, considering the norm these days is over 70%.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 1, 2015 7:04:03 GMT -5
60% would be a great drop, considering the norm these days is over 70%. Even at 70% she could pull it off. I also rounded her estimated sales number down, for what it's worth.
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