Billboard Hot 100 : 09/19/2015

[Enigma.]

Sept 5, 2015 9:06:01 GMT -5 wjr15 said:

I can see WDYM getting 2 weeks at #1, possibly a third week. It's all gonna depend on how well Justin's sales and streaming do

NO. WAY? MIND BLOWN

[Deleted]

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wait a minute... how did JB lose 10 million radio impressions?

[Deleted]

Sept 5, 2015 11:17:03 GMT -5 @jakelmmrs44 said:

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wait a minute... how did JB lose 10 million radio impressions?

8th/9th day effect, I'm guessing...

[85la]

Sept 5, 2015 12:32:28 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Sept 5, 2015 11:17:03 GMT -5 @jakelmmrs44 said:

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wait a minute... how did JB lose 10 million radio impressions?

8th/9th day effect, I'm guessing...

Yes, definitely. He got around 15 mil impressions last Friday, a week ago, so if he lost 10 mil yesterday, he got around 5 mil yesterday.

[velaxti]

Sept 4, 2015 11:47:59 GMT -5 erzo01 said:

So far, 3 singles have debuted at #1 in both the US and the UK: Something about the Way You Look/Candle in the Wind, My Heart Will Go On and Part of Me. WDYM just debuted at #1 in the UK and at this point I think it's safe to say that it'll be the 4th to join the aforementioned list.

(Both I'll Be Missing You and We R Who We R reached #1 in the UK but didn't debut at that spot.)

Doubt anybody will care, but in what is probably a fairly rare situation, We R Who We R was actually a re-entry at #1 in the UK.

It was because it was released on a compilation album a few weeks before, and people downloaded the song from it. The record label quickly made the song "album only", but in the time it was available for download it sold enough to make the top 100 that week.

If it wasn't for that it would have been a debut at #1, rather than a re-entry at #1.

[Daniel Collins]

Mediabase 09/06/15

1. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 182.558 (- 0.907)
2. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 147.806 (- 0.376)
3. OMI - Cheerleader: 139.660 (- 3.044)
4. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 134.427 (- 0.565)
5. SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 119.630 (+ 1.245)
6. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 107.024 (- 2.119)
7. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 103.486 (- 1.997)
8. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 102.278 (+ 1.500)
9. DEMI LOVATO - Cool For The Summer: 99.633 (+ 0.808)
10. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 97.316 (+ 1.317)
11. FALL OUT BOY - Uma Thurman: 93.042 (- 0.229) ▲
12. TAYLOR SWIFT - Bad Blood f/Kendrick Lamar: 91.641 (- 2.729) ▼
13. SKRILLEX & DIPLO - Where Are U Now w/J. Bieber: 74.636 (- 2.895)
14. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 74.422 (- 1.134)
15. WIZ KHALIFA - See You Again f/Charlie Puth: 73.020 (- 2.383)
16. DUSTIN LYNCH - Hell Of A Night: 66.855 (+ 0.131)
17. THOMAS RHETT - Crash And Burn: 64.923 (+ 0.036)
18. ANDY GRAMMER - Honey, I'm Good: 62.373 (- 1.090) ▲
18. FETTY WAP - My Way f/Monty: 62.245 (- 1.457) ▼
20. CHRIS JANSON - Buy Me A Boat: 60.112 (+ 0.170) ▲

KEITH URBAN - John Cougar, John Deere...: 59.677 (+ 0.250)
BRETT ELDREDGE - Lose My Mind: 54.097 (+ 0.231)
X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 52.462 (+ 0.128)
CHARLIE PUTH - Marvin Gaye f/Meghan Trainor: 47.942 (+ 0.242)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 46.634 (+ 3.410)
JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 44.746 (+ 3.229)
FETTY WAP-679 f/Remy Boyz...: 42.046 (+ 0.308)
ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 41.452 (- 0.133)
SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 39.561 (+ 1.135)
ONE DIRECTION - Drag Me Down: 39.366 (+ 0.032)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 39.197 (+ 0.329)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - Downtown: 34.182 (+ 2.103)
ADAM LAMBERT - Ghost Town: 32.713 (+ 0.340)
HAILEE STEINFELD - Love Myself: 31.359 (+ 0.384)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Smoke Break: 28.149 (+ 1.974)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 22.426 (+ 0.191)
ALESSIA CARA - Here: 21.095 (- 0.125)
CHRIS BROWN - Liquor: 17.469 (- 0.501)
NICK JONAS - Levels: 16.896 (+ 0.316)
DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 16.685 (+ 2.038)
RITA ORA - Body On Me f/Chris Brown: 11.940 (+ 0.422)
NELLY - The Fix f/Jeremih: 9.363 (+ 0.766)
MAJOR LAZER - Powerful f/Ellie Goulding: 5.421 (+ 0.743)

These updates could be obtained here: www.bcharts.com.br/forum/topic/311-mediabase/page-4785
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[skizzo]

Sept 6, 2015 2:05:29 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Sept 4, 2015 11:47:59 GMT -5 erzo01 said:

So far, 3 singles have debuted at #1 in both the US and the UK: Something about the Way You Look/Candle in the Wind, My Heart Will Go On and Part of Me. WDYM just debuted at #1 in the UK and at this point I think it's safe to say that it'll be the 4th to join the aforementioned list.

(Both I'll Be Missing You and We R Who We R reached #1 in the UK but didn't debut at that spot.)

Doubt anybody will care, but in what is probably a fairly rare situation, We R Who We R was actually a re-entry at #1 in the UK.

It was because it was released on a compilation album a few weeks before, and people downloaded the song from it. The record label quickly made the song "album only", but in the time it was available for download it sold enough to make the top 100 that week.

If it wasn't for that it would have been a debut at #1, rather than a re-entry at #1.

It still counts as a new entry at #1 because the UK chart only counts the top75 as an official hit.

[SPRΞΞ]

Sept 5, 2015 10:48:41 GMT -5 rimetm said:

From the forecast article

Highlights of the next Hot 100, dated Sept. 19, will be revealed Tuesday, Sept. 8, on Billboard.com, with the entire Hot 100, and all charts, posting Wednesday (9), due to the Labor Day holiday Monday (as all charts usually refresh online each Tuesday).

shouldn't there be a computer for that?

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

September 20, 1980

01 01 Upside Down - Diana Ross (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 All Out Of Love - Air Supply
03 09 Another One Bites The Dust - Queen
04 04 Fame - Irene Cara
05 08 Lookin' For Love - Johnny Lee
06 06 Give Me The Night - George Benson
07 07 Late In The Evening - Paul Simon
08 10 Drivin' My Life Away - Eddie Rabbitt
09 15 One In a Million You - Larry Graham
10 03 Emotional Rescue - The Rolling Stones


September 21, 1985

01 03 Money For Nothing - Dire Straits (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 04 Cherish - Kool & The Gang
03 01 St. Elmo's Fire (Man In Motion) - John Parr
04 02 We Don't Need Another Hero (Thunderdome) - Tina Turner
05 06 Don't Lose My Number - Phil Collins
06 08 Freedom - Wham!
07 09 Pop Life - Prince & The Revolution
08 05 The Power Of Love - Huey Lewis & The News
09 15 Oh Sheila - Ready For The World
10 14 Dress You Up - Madonna


September 22, 1990

01 01 Release Me - Wilson Phillips (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Blaze Of Glory - Jon Bon Jovi
03 03 Do Me! - Bell Biv DeVoe
04 06 (Can't Live Without Your) Love And Affection - Nelson
05 10 Close To You - Maxi Priest
06 07 Thieves In The Temple - Prince
07 11 Something Happened On The Way To Heaven - Phil Collins
08 18 Praying For Time - George Michael
09 04 Have You Seen Her - M.C. Hammer
10 05 Unskinny Bop - Poison


September 16, 1995

01 01 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. L.V. (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 You Are Not Alone - Michael Jackson
03 03 Kiss From a Rose - Seal
04 04 Waterfalls - TLC
05 05 Boombastic - Shaggy
06 NE Runaway - Janet Jackson
07 06 I Can Love You Like That - All-4-One
08 08 Only Wanna Be With You - Hootie & The Blowfish
09 10 I Got 5 On It - Luniz
10 07 Colors Of The Wind - Vanessa Williams

[ry4n]

Top 10 flashbacks for this week


1 year ago (9/20/2014)

1 2 All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (1st week of 8 @ #1)
2 1 Shake It Off - Taylor Swift
3 3 Anaconda - Nicki Minaj
4 4 Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj
5 6 Black Widow - Iggy Azalea feat. Rita Ora
6 5 Stay With Me - Sam Smith
7 8 Rude - MAGIC!
8 7 Break Free - Ariana Grande feat. Zedd
9 11 Maps - Maroon 5
10 9 Chandelier - Sia


5 years ago (9/18/2010)

1 2 Teenage Dream - Katy Perry (1st week of 2 @ #1)
2 1 Love The Way You Lie - Eminem feat. Rihanna
3 3 Dynamite - Taio Cruz
4 6 Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars
5 4 I Like It - Enrique Iglesias feat. Pitbull
6 5 DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love - Usher feat. Pitbull
7 9 Mine - Taylor Swift
8 10 Take It Off - Ke$ha
9 13 Just A Dream - Nelly
10 7 California Gurls - Katy Perry feat. Snoop Dogg


10 years ago (9/17/2005)

1 19 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx (1st week of 10 @ #1)
2 2 Shake It Off - Mariah Carey
3 4 Lose Control - Missy Elliott feat. Ciara & Fatman Scoop
4 1 We Belong Together - Mariah Carey
5 3 Don't Cha - Pussycat Dolls feat. Busta Rhymes
6 7 Like You - Bow Wow feat. Ciara
7 6 Pon De Replay - Rihanna
8 12 Sugar, We're Goin' Down - Fall Out Boy
9 5 Let Me Hold You - Bow Wow feat. Omarion
10 8 You & Me - Lifehouse


15 years ago (9/16/2000)

1 2 Music - Madonna (1st week of 4 @ #1)
2 1 Doesn't Really Matter - Janet Jackson
3 3 Jumpin', Jumpin' - Destiny's Child
4 5 Bent - Matchbox 20
5 4 Incomplete - Sisqo
6 6 Kryptonite - 3 Doors Down
7 10 (Hot S**t) Country Grammar - Nelly
8 8 No More - Ruff Endz
9 9 I Wanna Know - Joe
10 7 Wifey - Next

[KeepDeanWeird]

Sept 6, 2015 11:09:32 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

Sept 5, 2015 10:48:41 GMT -5 rimetm said:

From the forecast article

shouldn't there be a computer for that?

Any notice how Billboard's technology seems to have gone backwards since the new release date? Despite the week ending three days earlier, we usually get charts only one or two days earlier now. You'd think it'd be faster instead of slower. I've noticed that my interest in the charts has dropped significantly with the change. With HITS providing full mediabase building charts, that's more interesting to watch. Now that sales are become far less relevant, I wonder what formula adjustments BB will make for the new chart year. My biggest hope: move passive streaming to a radio formula, so that active streaming is weighed separately - they are two very different models.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

September 12, 1960 (for the week ending September 17)

01 01 It's Now Or Never - Elvis Presley (5th and final week at #1)
02 02 The Twist - Chubby Checker
03 09 My Heart Has a Mind Of Its Own - Connie Francis
04 13 Mr. Custer - Larry Verne
05 03 Walk Don't Run - The Ventures
06 22 Chain Gang - Sam Cooke
07 04 Volare (Nel Blu Di Pinto Di Blu) - Bobby Rydell
08 17 Kiddo - Brook Benton
09 14 Yogi - Ivy Three
10 07 Mission Bell - Donnie Brooks


September 18, 1965

01 01 Help! - The Beatles (3rd and final week at #1)
02 03 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire
03 02 Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
04 04 You Were On My Mind - We Five
05 13 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five
06 10 The 'In' Crowd - Ramsey Lewis
07 11 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys
08 09 It Ain't Me Baby - The Turtles
09 07 I Got You Babe - Sonny & Cher
10 14 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds


September 19, 1970

01 02 Ain't No Mountain High Enough - Diana Ross (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 War - Edwin Starr
03 05 Looking Out My Back Door / Long As I Can See The Light - Creedence Clearwater Revival
04 06 Patches - Clarence Carter
05 07 Julie Do Ya Love Me - Bobby Sherman
06 04 25 Or 6 To 4 - Chicago
07 03 In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry
08 08 (They Long To Be) Close To You - The Carpenters
09 11 Candida - Dawn
10 09 Make It With You - Bread


September 20, 1975

01 05 Fame - David Bowie (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Rhinestone Cowboy - Glen Campbell
03 03 At Seventeen - Janis Ian
04 08 I'm Sorry / Calypso - John Denver
05 06 Fight The Power - The Isley Brothers
06 07 Could It Be Magic - Barry Manilow
07 09 Run Joey Run - David Geddes
08 02 Fallin' In Love - Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
09 10 Wasted Days And Wasted Nights - Freddy Fender
10 11 Feel Like Makin' Love - Bad Company

[areyoureadytojump]

Sept 6, 2015 11:09:32 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

Sept 5, 2015 10:48:41 GMT -5 rimetm said:

From the forecast article

shouldn't there be a computer for that?

There is one, but all the charts have to be double-checked, errors corrected, labels complain, soundscan re-reuns charts...

It's a holiday weekend. Let them have one day off.

[House Lannister]

Sept 4, 2015 20:38:34 GMT -5 YourFaveIsAFlop said:

Hit The Quan has disappeared from Spotify but still on iTunes. Anybody know why?

It's up today on Spotify.

[Spidey]

Sept 4, 2015 8:44:58 GMT -5 Verisimilitude said:

All BBTM tracks

The Hills 7,516,615
Can't Feel My Face 7,027,210
Often 3,290,353
Real Life 3,279,276
Acquainted 2,836,953
Tell Your Friends 2,715,784
Earned It 2,629,109
Dark Times 2,359,621
Losers 2,359,069
In The Night 2,063,268
Shameless 2,042,917
Angel 1,672,915
As You Are 1,553,397

Total BBTM album track streams 41,346,487

And including Apple Music, the album should reach 55-60 million streams!

Where is "Prisoner"? That seemed to be the biggest album track last week if sales were any indication. Is it not on Spotify?

[kanimal]

Sept 6, 2015 11:32:41 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Sept 6, 2015 11:09:32 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

shouldn't there be a computer for that?

Any notice how Billboard's technology seems to have gone backwards since the new release date? Despite the week ending three days earlier, we usually get charts only one or two days earlier now. You'd think it'd be faster instead of slower. I've noticed that my interest in the charts has dropped significantly with the change. With HITS providing full mediabase building charts, that's more interesting to watch. Now that sales are become far less relevant, I wonder what formula adjustments BB will make for the new chart year. My biggest hope: move passive streaming to a radio formula, so that active streaming is weighed separately - they are two very different models.

-- The issue is that Billboard didn't totally change its work week to match the new tracking period.  In theory, Wednesday and Thursday should be "the weekend" and Friday should be the new Monday.

Looking at it from the perspective of an old-school Billboard employee, I get the resistance to that change.  If you have a wife/husband, friends and kids who all have off on Saturday and Sunday, you're not going to want YOUR weekend to be Wednesday and Thursday.

And while this concept of a "weekend" or even a "work week" may seem antiquated in the age of 24/7/365 digital journalism (where you're supposed to be "on call" at all times), note that the overwhelming majority of Billboard's music industry customers adhere to a Monday-Friday work week.  Consequently, they're doubtfully clamoring for full chart updates on Saturday and Sunday (if they were - you better believe Billboard would be complying).  They want to enjoy their weekends too!

So, from Billboard's perspective, they're giving you the Hot 100 article two business days after the tracking week ends (and the BB200 article even sooner).  That's less time than it used to take (week ended Sunday, articles came on Wednesday).

-- The one thing I DON'T understand is why Billboard hasn't adjusted when its auxiliary articles come out.  Stuff like "Hot 100 Moves" and "Tomorrow's Hits" should be coming out on Tuesday or Wednesday rather than Thursday or Friday.  And it's particularly weird that "Billboard 200 moves" comes out Friday night, which is more than a week after the relevant tracking period ended.

-- Yes, that was an absurdly verbose response to a fairly simple post.

[THINKIN BOUT YOU]

Is there anyone knows what billboard uses to store the huge database of the chart runs of every single song that ever entered hot 100? A special computer program? Or as simple as spreadsheet?

[Daniel Collins]

Mediabase 09/07/15

1. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 181.683 (- 0.875)
2. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 147.859 (+ 0.053)
3. OMI - Cheerleader: 136.637 (- 3.023)
4. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 133.601 (- 0.826)
5. SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 120.995 (+ 1.365)
6. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 105.403 (- 1.621)
7. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 103.475 (+ 1.197) ▲
8. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 101.838 (- 1.648) ▼
9. DEMI LOVATO - Cool For The Summer: 100.265 (+ 0.632)
10. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 99.467 (+ 2.151)
11. FALL OUT BOY - Uma Thurman: 92.309 (- 0.733)
12. TAYLOR SWIFT - Bad Blood f/Kendrick Lamar: 88.722 (- 2.919)
13. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 73.057 (- 1.365) ▲
14. SKRILLEX & DIPLO - Where Are U Now w/J. Bieber: 72.122 (- 2.514) ▼
15. WIZ KHALIFA - See You Again f/Charlie Puth: 71.246 (- 1.774)
16. DUSTIN LYNCH - Hell Of A Night: 66.216 (- 0.639)
17. THOMAS RHETT - Crash And Burn: 65.398 (+ 0.475)
18. FETTY WAP - My Way f/Monty: 61.377 (- 0.868) ▲
18. ANDY GRAMMER - Honey, I'm Good: 61.025 (- 1.348) ▼
20. CHRIS JANSON - Buy Me A Boat: 60.333 (+ 0.221)

KEITH URBAN - John Cougar, John Deere...: 60.302 (+ 0.625)
BRETT ELDREDGE - Lose My Mind: 54.201 (+ 0.104)
X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 52.741 (+ 0.279)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 50.253 (+ 3.619)
CHARLIE PUTH - Marvin Gaye f/Meghan Trainor: 48.334 (+ 0.392)
JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 47.091 (+ 2.345)
FETTY WAP-679 f/Remy Boyz...: 42.943 (+ 0.897)
ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 41.375 (- 0.077)
SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 41.074 (+ 1.513)
ONE DIRECTION - Drag Me Down: 39.622 (+ 0.256)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 39.021 (- 0.176)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - Downtown: 36.273 (+ 2.091)
ADAM LAMBERT - Ghost Town: 33.141 (+ 0.428)
HAILEE STEINFELD - Love Myself: 32.104 (+ 0.745)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Smoke Break: 29.526 (+ 1.377)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 22.718 (+ 0.292)
DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 18.454 (+ 1.769)
NICK JONAS - Levels: 16.749 (- 0.147)
RITA ORA - Body On Me f/Chris Brown: 12.354 (+ 0.414)
NELLY - The Fix f/Jeremih: 10.071 (+ 0.708)
MAJOR LAZER - Powerful f/Ellie Goulding: 5.848 (+ 0.427)

[H.]

When will the chart be revealed?

[Mikel Echarri]

Sept 7, 2015 10:00:30 GMT -5 H. said:

When will the chart be revealed?

Highlights tomorrow, full charts on Wednesday (only this week)

[wavey.]

Yes at "Hotline Bling" rising. This is going to be big.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Sept 6, 2015 22:38:09 GMT -5 kanimal said:

Sept 6, 2015 11:32:41 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Any notice how Billboard's technology seems to have gone backwards since the new release date? Despite the week ending three days earlier, we usually get charts only one or two days earlier now. You'd think it'd be faster instead of slower. I've noticed that my interest in the charts has dropped significantly with the change. With HITS providing full mediabase building charts, that's more interesting to watch. Now that sales are become far less relevant, I wonder what formula adjustments BB will make for the new chart year. My biggest hope: move passive streaming to a radio formula, so that active streaming is weighed separately - they are two very different models.

-- The issue is that Billboard didn't totally change its work week to match the new tracking period.  In theory, Wednesday and Thursday should be "the weekend" and Friday should be the new Monday.

Looking at it from the perspective of an old-school Billboard employee, I get the resistance to that change.  If you have a wife/husband, friends and kids who all have off on Saturday and Sunday, you're not going to want YOUR weekend to be Wednesday and Thursday.

And while this concept of a "weekend" or even a "work week" may seem antiquated in the age of 24/7/365 digital journalism (where you're supposed to be "on call" at all times), note that the overwhelming majority of Billboard's music industry customers adhere to a Monday-Friday work week.  Consequently, they're doubtfully clamoring for full chart updates on Saturday and Sunday (if they were - you better believe Billboard would be complying).  They want to enjoy their weekends too!

So, from Billboard's perspective, they're giving you the Hot 100 article two business days after the tracking week ends (and the BB200 article even sooner).  That's less time than it used to take (week ended Sunday, articles came on Wednesday).

-- The one thing I DON'T understand is why Billboard hasn't adjusted when its auxiliary articles come out.  Stuff like "Hot 100 Moves" and "Tomorrow's Hits" should be coming out on Tuesday or Wednesday rather than Thursday or Friday.  And it's particularly weird that "Billboard 200 moves" comes out Friday night, which is more than a week after the relevant tracking period ended.

-- Yes, that was an absurdly verbose response to a fairly simple post.

I get what you're saying, and Billboard really has never been good at adjusting with the times. Look how stuck they are on "issue" date, which is completely irrelevant now. And your point about the other features is odd. If Billboard wants to stay with M-F and continue to fall behind the rest of the world, let them. I'm assuming all the international chart authorities are releasing them before Tuesday/Wednesday, but it's hard to tell with the bizarre Billboard issue dates. Like I said, there's so much info out there, that I get enough now to see what's hot, selling and flopping.

[85la]

Sept 7, 2015 10:48:50 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Sept 6, 2015 22:38:09 GMT -5 kanimal said:

-- The issue is that Billboard didn't totally change its work week to match the new tracking period.  In theory, Wednesday and Thursday should be "the weekend" and Friday should be the new Monday.

Looking at it from the perspective of an old-school Billboard employee, I get the resistance to that change.  If you have a wife/husband, friends and kids who all have off on Saturday and Sunday, you're not going to want YOUR weekend to be Wednesday and Thursday.

And while this concept of a "weekend" or even a "work week" may seem antiquated in the age of 24/7/365 digital journalism (where you're supposed to be "on call" at all times), note that the overwhelming majority of Billboard's music industry customers adhere to a Monday-Friday work week.  Consequently, they're doubtfully clamoring for full chart updates on Saturday and Sunday (if they were - you better believe Billboard would be complying).  They want to enjoy their weekends too!

So, from Billboard's perspective, they're giving you the Hot 100 article two business days after the tracking week ends (and the BB200 article even sooner).  That's less time than it used to take (week ended Sunday, articles came on Wednesday).

-- The one thing I DON'T understand is why Billboard hasn't adjusted when its auxiliary articles come out.  Stuff like "Hot 100 Moves" and "Tomorrow's Hits" should be coming out on Tuesday or Wednesday rather than Thursday or Friday.  And it's particularly weird that "Billboard 200 moves" comes out Friday night, which is more than a week after the relevant tracking period ended.

-- Yes, that was an absurdly verbose response to a fairly simple post.

I get what you're saying, and Billboard really has never been good at adjusting with the times. Look how stuck they are on "issue" date, which is completely irrelevant now. And your point about the other features is odd. If Billboard wants to stay with M-F and continue to fall behind the rest of the world, let them. I'm assuming all the international chart authorities are releasing them before Tuesday/Wednesday, but it's hard to tell with the bizarre Billboard issue dates. Like I said, there's so much info out there, that I get enough now to see what's hot, selling and flopping.

The answer is actually more simple than the reasons you guys are giving (at least for the Hot 100): the airplay tracking period is from Monday-Sunday, so the fact that they give us the highlights of the chart the very next day means they are actually doing it as soon as possible. Why the airplay tracking period is different I have never been able to determine how that is methodologically sound, but that's another issue.

[Enigma.]

This week's top ten flashbacks are AMAZING. All classics.

[kanimal]

Sept 7, 2015 13:33:53 GMT -5 85la said:

Sept 7, 2015 10:48:50 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

I get what you're saying, and Billboard really has never been good at adjusting with the times. Look how stuck they are on "issue" date, which is completely irrelevant now. And your point about the other features is odd. If Billboard wants to stay with M-F and continue to fall behind the rest of the world, let them. I'm assuming all the international chart authorities are releasing them before Tuesday/Wednesday, but it's hard to tell with the bizarre Billboard issue dates. Like I said, there's so much info out there, that I get enough now to see what's hot, selling and flopping.

The answer is actually more simple than the reasons you guys are giving (at least for the Hot 100): the airplay tracking period is from Monday-Sunday, so the fact that they give us the highlights of the chart the very next day means they are actually doing it as soon as possible. Why the airplay tracking period is different I have never been able to determine how that is methodologically sound, but that's another issue.

Billboard's rationale: sales/streaming data takes time to process, whereas radio data is available instantly.  Since it has to wait a few days for the sales & streaming data to come in, Billboard might as well keep tracking radio activity to create the most up-to-date chart possible.

So the radio tracking week isn't the CAUSE of the delay - it's a product of it.

[Linnethia Monique]

Sept 6, 2015 11:15:42 GMT -5 ry4n said:

Top 10 flashbacks for this week

10 years ago (9/17/2005)

1 19 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx (1st week of 10 @ #1)
2 2 Shake It Off - Mariah Carey
3 4 Lose Control - Missy Elliott feat. Ciara & Fatman Scoop
4 1 We Belong Together - Mariah Carey
5 3 Don't Cha - Pussycat Dolls feat. Busta Rhymes
6 7 Like You - Bow Wow feat. Ciara
7 6 Pon De Replay - Rihanna
8 12 Sugar, We're Goin' Down - Fall Out Boy
9 5 Let Me Hold You - Bow Wow feat. Omarion
10 8 You & Me - Lifehouse

Ciara, sis, what happened? Same question for Bow Wow.

[Deleted]

Lean On is gonna miss airplay #1, it seems :(

[imbondz]

The fact it got to #2 is cool tho.


Anyone have link to Billboards Chart Beat? Or is that not around anymore? The question / answer part. Chart Beat Chat maybe?

[85la]

Sept 7, 2015 14:06:15 GMT -5 kanimal said:

Sept 7, 2015 13:33:53 GMT -5 85la said:

The answer is actually more simple than the reasons you guys are giving (at least for the Hot 100): the airplay tracking period is from Monday-Sunday, so the fact that they give us the highlights of the chart the very next day means they are actually doing it as soon as possible. Why the airplay tracking period is different I have never been able to determine how that is methodologically sound, but that's another issue.

Billboard's rationale: sales/streaming data takes time to process, whereas radio data is available instantly.  Since it has to wait a few days for the sales & streaming data to come in, Billboard might as well keep tracking radio activity to create the most up-to-date chart possible.

So the radio tracking week isn't the CAUSE of the delay - it's a product of it.

Yeah, I know they do it because airplay is more readily available on a day-to-day basis, I'm just saying it's a poor measuring practice. If you are going to measure something pertaining to one specific week-long period, all of the components of what you are measuring have to actually be during that period. It's just sound science. I could be wrong because I'm not a statistician or into analytics or anything, but I cannot think of another example in life where there is one multi-metric statistic or measurement that is assigned to one period, be it a year or month or whatever, but the different metrics can fall under differing periods.

[Enigma.]

Ok, what's wrong with the chart AGAIN