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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:13:21 GMT -5
'you' meaning Liucci. And I voted for you because of how certain I was but you're right I should have just cast the suspicion and tried to talk it out with bigfan but I jumped the gun. Your only mistake there (technically), was voting right away, because no player should ever do that in LYLO. That said, because bigfan did the same thing AND was fatally wrong, nothing else mattered. So don't kick yourself over what you could have done - I suspect that even had you withheld your vote, bigfan would not have. Unfortunately you are right, after yesterday's events I was so sure, but I missed it.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:14:44 GMT -5
Agreed, then disappearing for the last five minutes of deliberations without casting a vote? Very odd. Second consecutive end of day that Luicci has done something off. But goes and votes Green Baron. Like seriously, reading the last page isn't all that difficult. Both Green Baron for doing absolutely nothing and bigfan were infuriating during this game. For future, what should I do differently?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:15:03 GMT -5
Anyhow, I hope I'm town next game. I've been scum enough times now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:24:20 GMT -5
Ugh I knew it the minute you didn't get right in this thread when Day 3 started. And I should have known it was Narwhals damn it. Ftr, I didn't have any mobile access at my school today, so I wasn't able to come into the thread and post anything, my first access was when I laid my vote down.
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Post by Libra on Oct 15, 2015 16:25:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately you are right, after yesterday's events I was so sure, but I missed it. It doesn't matter. If Town is in LYLO then do not immediately vote*. Nothing else matters. Instead, put your suspicions out there. Eventually, yes, you'll have to vote. BUT, doing so immediately enables the scenario that just played itself out here - your vote was the incorrect one, thus scum immediately jumped on it without saying another word. *The only possible exception to this, I believe, is when it's one faction Vs. the other AND you have intel from your role that's positively identified scum - in which case you also obviously MUST say so when voting. (This is because if you have role intel then being wrong isn't possible. IF all you have is hunches/suspicion, then it doesn't matter how sure you may think they may be - wait on voting, period.)
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:29:45 GMT -5
Unfortunately you are right, after yesterday's events I was so sure, but I missed it. It doesn't matter. If Town is in LYLO then do not immediately vote*. Nothing else matters. Instead, put your suspicions out there. Eventually, yes, you'll have to vote. BUT, doing so immediately enables the scenario that just played itself out here - your vote was the incorrect one, thus scum immediately jumped on it without saying another word. *The only possible exception to this, I believe, is when it's one faction Vs. the other AND you have intel from your role that's positively identified scum - in which case you also obviously MUST say so when voting. Got it. I didn't think about it all the way through. It totally makes sense what your saying. The crazy thing is I laid out the situation early on. I'm an idiot on many levels. Luicci, one question, why did you choose to save me on day one over Mikey?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:33:09 GMT -5
bigfan, I didn't want to be too eager, I wanted to wait longer to lynch one of the chosen townies, although I would have been fine with town players all incorrectly voting them. Being desperate is a bad thing as scum, so overall I didn't want to be on your lynchwagon/look too eager to lynch you, especially since your flip is chosen townie. Does that make sense?
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Post by popstop on Oct 15, 2015 16:34:44 GMT -5
So, I thought albie made mistakes all game, but he redeemed himself a bit today. I thought bigfan played a great game, but fucked it up today. Yes, I said but fucked.
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Post by Libra on Oct 15, 2015 16:35:28 GMT -5
Yeah, that would have drawn unnecessary attention to the "Chosen" role and how that worked. And his strategy worked, for Town basically didn't even consider how Chosen works at all after D1 - which also proved fatal.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:36:30 GMT -5
bigfan, I didn't want to be too eager, I wanted to wait longer to lynch one of the chosen townies, although I would have been fine with town players all incorrectly voting them. Being desperate is a bad thing as scum, so overall I didn't want to be on your lynchwagon/look too eager to lynch you, especially since your flip is chosen townie. Does that make sense? Yeah, plus after you saved me, I was convinced your ballsy move meant you were town. I would have bet on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:36:42 GMT -5
Anyways, I know one sure scum sign you guys should have caught, and that was that I didn't have a vote cast at the end of the last day phase. As an experienced player, doing that as town is the worst thing to do, so I should have been left for dead.
Also, the way I tried to get Coco to vote bigfan towards the end of the last day phase by constantly reiterating that it was bigfan vs. coco should have told you that bigfan was a chosen townie if you figured out I was scum. I know I played horribly towards the end of the last day phase.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:37:09 GMT -5
So, I thought albie made mistakes all game, but he redeemed himself a bit today. I thought bigfan played a great game, but f**ked it up today. Yes, I said but f**ked. Thanks popstop. I tried to play better than last time, but I'm sure the green room is gonna be brutal to read.
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Post by Libra on Oct 15, 2015 16:36:55 GMT -5
Between the not-so-lowkey Disco shade (elsewhere) and this post right here, how is Thirstiest Poster of the Year not a thing this year?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:40:01 GMT -5
Yeah, that would have drawn unnecessary attention to the "Chosen" role and how that worked. And his strategy worked, for Town basically didn't even consider how Chosen works at all after D1 - which also proved fatal. I know, I can't believe how little the chosen townie aspect was brought up in the thread after day 1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:41:29 GMT -5
Also, The reason for unvoting was so that there was a chance bigfan would get lynched.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:46:41 GMT -5
Yeah, that would have drawn unnecessary attention to the "Chosen" role and how that worked. And his strategy worked, for Town basically didn't even consider how Chosen works at all after D1 - which also proved fatal. I know, I can't believe how little the chosen townie aspect was brought up in the thread after day 1. I think it would have helped if the chosen KNEW they were chosen. Mine made no mention of that and I think I would have played differently if I had known.
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Post by popstop on Oct 15, 2015 16:47:20 GMT -5
I was really frustrated that people weren't picking up on things Liucci did. I was hoping that the end of D2 events would cause people to vote Liucci, and it looks like albie picked that up today, and I thought bigfan had too.
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Post by Libra on Oct 15, 2015 16:50:41 GMT -5
Well, Drag was noticing at the end of D2 - which no doubt got him killed for it.
That actually was a ballsy gambit - it counted on a Townie coming in guns blazing in the wrong direction. But, that paid off too...
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:52:06 GMT -5
I was really frustrated that people weren't picking up on things Liucci did. I was hoping that the end of D2 events would cause people to vote Liucci, and it looks like albie picked that up today, and I thought bigfan had too. I think I was so stuck on him changing his vote in the first day for Mikey. It didn't seem like a very scum thing to do. I would call him out, but he always had a solution. However, I should have realized when I continued to not be night killed by the mafia that something was up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:54:42 GMT -5
I was really frustrated that people weren't picking up on things Liucci did. I was hoping that the end of D2 events would cause people to vote Liucci, and it looks like albie picked that up today, and I thought bigfan had too. I think I was so stuck on him changing his vote in the first day for Mikey. It didn't seem like a very scum thing to do. I would call him out, but he always had a solution. However, I should have realized when I continued to not be night killed by the mafia that something was up. You couldn't be nightkilled so long as Green Baron was still alive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:55:08 GMT -5
So we had to choose between Drag & Albie.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 16:56:19 GMT -5
I think I was so stuck on him changing his vote in the first day for Mikey. It didn't seem like a very scum thing to do. I would call him out, but he always had a solution. However, I should have realized when I continued to not be night killed by the mafia that something was up. You couldn't be nightkilled so long as Green Baron was still alive. Wait, who was chosen? Me and Albie?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:57:06 GMT -5
You couldn't be nightkilled so long as Green Baron was still alive. Wait, who was chosen? Me and Albie? You and Green Baron. We had to get one of you lynched this day phase in order to win. If we didn't get a chosen townie lynched we would lose no matter what.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:57:19 GMT -5
I know, I can't believe how little the chosen townie aspect was brought up in the thread after day 1. I think it would have helped if the chosen KNEW they were chosen. Mine made no mention of that and I think I would have played differently if I had known. Yeah only the scum knew who the chosens were I would have rather been town b/c it wasn't all that fun knowing who everyone was. I basically had to act like I didn't know anything when I knew everything. We we're pretty lucky to win though.
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Post by Albie on Oct 15, 2015 16:57:31 GMT -5
Yeah, that would have drawn unnecessary attention to the "Chosen" role and how that worked. And his strategy worked, for Town basically didn't even consider how Chosen works at all after D1 - which also proved fatal. fwiw, every time I worked something out in my head before posting that was the main factor I had in mind. Except I wasn't sure if I should have mentioned whom I thought was Chosen or not as I was always afraid Town would jump on me and accuse me of being scum. I would have guessed GB right but I was so unsure on Bigfan the whole time. Plus, I was really starting to rely on Drag and Coco's input, moreso Coco's, and that led me astray. I was really frustrated that people weren't picking up on things Liucci did. I was hoping that the end of D2 events would cause people to vote Liucci, and it looks like albie picked that up today, and I thought bigfan had too. Point some things out that were missed. Continue the tutorial please.
I am definitely kicking myself for not being around those final hours of day 2 because I would have pushed hard for Liucci before the vote. :(
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 17:00:26 GMT -5
Albie, I honestly don't think it would have mattered. I wouldn't have voted for Luicci unless it was the two of us left. I was that convinced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 17:04:44 GMT -5
Albie, I honestly don't think it would have mattered. I wouldn't have voted for Luicci unless it was the two of us left. I was that convinced. Yeah we had it figured that it would take you Albie and green baron all coming together to vote for Liucci of me BEFORE either you or GB received one vote for us to lose. & since GB kept voting you and you kept voting GB in previous days, yeah it looked pretty good for us. But albie's post about Liucci really had me worried.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 17:07:14 GMT -5
And that's why we killed Drag. Following Coco's lynch, Drag would have looked very suspicious this day phase since Coco was certain he was scum, and since we wanted a chosen townie lynched, we had to quash that suspicion right then and there.
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Post by Libra on Oct 15, 2015 17:10:17 GMT -5
Except I wasn't sure if I should have mentioned whom I thought was Chosen or not as I was always afraid Town would jump on me and accuse me of being scum. Yeah...that was my mistake in going after Mikey. I mis-interpreted his post of doing that. Granted, it ultimately proved a lucky break in that it saved the Chosen bigfan from being lynched D1 (albeit by the skin of his teeth)...but yeah. In hindsight, though, what bigfan said D2 about voting for anyone else due to knowing himself to be Town kind of holds for what I did as well - because even with Mikey also being a wrong target, I was convinced on bigfan being Town. Even without the sudden instant uber-suspicion of Mikey, I had no real idea whether he was Town or scum then.
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Post by bigfan101 on Oct 15, 2015 17:20:04 GMT -5
Yall want to share the green room link since were done any how? Lol
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