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Post by The Upper Hand on Oct 31, 2015 16:07:03 GMT -5
1. It's not cute to have a grammar mistake when correcting someone's spelling. 2. It's not cute to correct spelling of someone whose first language is not English. 3. Marry me.
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Post by matty005 on Oct 31, 2015 16:15:15 GMT -5
Sorry, english is not my language and sometimes (in fact most of the times) the translation of what i'm thinking doesn't end well My apologies, jjose712. My issue was more with I feel like I can't read more than three posts in this thread without people putting down other artists when talking about how great (and she is great) Adele. Again, my post was more out of frustration, and not trying to be rude.
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Post by nandete on Oct 31, 2015 16:15:58 GMT -5
Now we're back to 700k? I thought they were predicting over a million? I think this is the prediction for week 2 since week 1 ended yesterday. Yes, week 2
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Oct 31, 2015 16:19:41 GMT -5
Rolling in the Deep never hit #1 in the UK? No, peaked at #2 behing Grenade by Bruno Mars Wow, that blows my mind, how she's only had 2 UK #1's. But yet she'll have 4 US #1's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 17:02:40 GMT -5
1. Make You Feel My Love 2. Hello 3. Chasing Pavements
The Adele single trio, this was definitely worth the hype.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Oct 31, 2015 17:42:43 GMT -5
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 31, 2015 19:50:13 GMT -5
Here we go with the ridiculous "real music" phrase again. Lmao Real music is not the word, but real singers for sure. Some people think to be a singer you must, well, sing, and lets be honest, there's a good bunch of nowadays stars that can't sing even if their lives depend of it, specially on pop Also not true. No record label is going to invest money and time into someone who can't sing. Sure, some sing better than others but anyone who gets a major label deal must have some singing ability or distinction about them lest they be Milli Vanilli.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 31, 2015 23:19:48 GMT -5
Real music is not the word, but real singers for sure. Some people think to be a singer you must, well, sing, and lets be honest, there's a good bunch of nowadays stars that can't sing even if their lives depend of it, specially on pop Also not true. No record label is going to invest money and time into someone who can't sing. Sure, some sing better than others but anyone who gets a major label deal must have some singing ability or distinction about them lest they be Milli Vanilli. Eh. Marketability is way more appealing than talent.
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Post by Juanca on Nov 1, 2015 1:08:57 GMT -5
It's so great to witness another music milestone. Last time was Born this way. Before that? I could think of My heart will go on, Candle in the wind 1997 (FYI it was not a re-release but a new version of the original with lyrics adapted to fit Princess Di rather than Marylin Monroe), I will always love you. Not associated with events or movies? Probably Black or white (launching campaign and hype was insane and the song was the quickest to reach #1 in billboard in a long time), and Like a prayer (video, ad and song premieres were hyped in advance like no other song had and then the controversy and song quality took it to the top everywhere).
What I'm starting to wonder now is how far Hello can reach in the year end ranking? I think (and hope) it can be top 5 despite its short time in the ranking, just due to the immense number of points already gained. I remember that Candle in the wind 1997 was already considered to be #1 of the year less than a month after its release due to the record breaking sales. Interesting to follow stats of highest sales and streams of the year...
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Post by Libra on Nov 1, 2015 2:25:39 GMT -5
It's so great to witness another music milestone. Last time was Born this way. Before that? I could think of My heart will go on, Candle in the wind 1997 (FYI it was not a re-release but a new version of the original with lyrics adapted to fit Princess Di rather than Marylin Monroe), I will always love you. Not associated with events or movies? Probably Black or white (launching campaign and hype was insane and the song was the quickest to reach #1 in billboard in a long time), and Like a prayer (video, ad and song premieres were hyped in advance like no other song had and then the controversy and song quality took it to the top everywhere). What I'm starting to wonder now is how far Hello can reach in the year end ranking? I think (and hope) it can be top 5 despite its short time in the ranking, just due to the immense number of points already gained. I remember that Candle in the wind 1997 was already considered to be #1 of the year less than a month after its release due to the record breaking sales. Interesting to follow stats of highest sales and streams of the year... It'd be EXTREMELY lucky to even rank, I'd think. The Billboard chart year runs from December to November, and the new chart will be dated November 14. So it'll have all of three weeks' worth of points.
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Post by lyhom on Nov 1, 2015 2:36:38 GMT -5
eh I think it could get on the list just because of how fucking massive the first three weeks will be, but it probably won't be that high
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 1, 2015 5:49:25 GMT -5
POP: 33 20 ADELE Hello 4759 1621 3138 35.050
+551 Spins +238 Bullet +3.352 Audience
HOT AC: 25 12 ADELE Hello 3247 1037 2210 23.395
+298 Spins -7 Bullet +0.745 Audience
AC: 20 8 ADELE Hello 1424 260 1164 12.281
+170 Spins +84 Bullet +1.117 Audience
AAA: 25 4 ADELE Hello 548 162 386 1.907
+16 Spins -43 Bullet -0.023 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 121 48 ADELE Hello 468 41 427 1.747
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 1, 2015 6:31:42 GMT -5
Real music is not the word, but real singers for sure. Some people think to be a singer you must, well, sing, and lets be honest, there's a good bunch of nowadays stars that can't sing even if their lives depend of it, specially on pop Also not true. No record label is going to invest money and time into someone who can't sing. Sure, some sing better than others but anyone who gets a major label deal must have some singing ability or distinction about them lest they be Milli Vanilli. Are you serious? there are a good bunch of singers who are really awful live. It's not necesary to name names because everybody know who they are (and some of them are superstars). Some have a beautiful recorded voice, but live they are terrible. Music is far from being about the voice, charisma, looks, personality, marketability and being smart chosing your colaborators are far more important to have a successful career on pop. And the worst part is there's no excuse to give bad live performances, maybe the singer doesn't have a great voice, but with some vocal coaching and chosing carefully the songs, there's no reason to not give a good (or at least decent performance)
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Post by balletgirlmom on Nov 1, 2015 8:06:38 GMT -5
What I think people love about Adele is she can just stand there and SING without all the excess stuff going on around her. Adele's TALENT is what makes her popular. I'm glad she is back!
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Post by Dylan :) on Nov 1, 2015 8:16:17 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it is because of hearing this on the radio so much, seeing everyone talk about it, or listening to it so much over the last week, but this has almost completely burned out on me
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 1, 2015 9:36:09 GMT -5
Also not true. No record label is going to invest money and time into someone who can't sing. Sure, some sing better than others but anyone who gets a major label deal must have some singing ability or distinction about them lest they be Milli Vanilli. Are you serious? there are a good bunch of singers who are really awful live. It's not necesary to name names because everybody know who they are (and some of them are superstars). Some have a beautiful recorded voice, but live they are terrible. Music is far from being about the voice, charisma, looks, personality, marketability and being smart chosing your colaborators are far more important to have a successful career on pop. And the worst part is there's no excuse to give bad live performances, maybe the singer doesn't have a great voice, but with some vocal coaching and chosing carefully the songs, there's no reason to not give a good (or at least decent performance) I am serious. The risk of putting money into a poor singer is too great and too easy to fail. As for poor singers, two examples that come to mind for me are Katy Perry and Britney Spears. I saw Katy live a few years back and while she didn't blow me away with her vocal ability, she did impress me with how well she actually did sing considering her reputation as being a subpar vocalist. She probably *should* be singing better than she is considering she's been doing this now for over a decade, but I think she has been able to show at some point along the way that she can sing. Same with Britney. She might suck donkey d now but I remember seeing an audition tape on some show that was filmed when she was a teenager before she was a singer and was surprised at how good she was. She was like Christina good. At one point, Britney had pipes. Obviously there are different levels of ability and different ranges of how good singers are but I do believe most legitimately have good voices. Your exceptions might be with previously famous people like Jennifer Lopez or Paris Hilton. And yes, marketability is a big deal. I would say image accounts for 90% of a singers' fame and success. But you still have to start from scratch and that's where your actual abilities come in.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 1, 2015 10:20:19 GMT -5
This is also top 50 at Urban AC, nearing top 40.
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Post by Future Captain on Nov 1, 2015 10:21:50 GMT -5
With that AC update, I can't help but wonder what's the record for the fastest rise to #1 in AC? I have a feeling Hello is going to be there in like, 2 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 10:30:01 GMT -5
is this #1 yet
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 10:36:47 GMT -5
Along with marketability, I'd say what's most important is the singer's studio tone. There are tons of great singers in the world-- to stand out at radio, what you need is a very distinct tone. Say what you want about Britney, Rihanna, Katy, etc-- their tones are what set them apart and helped make them super successful.
Anyway, I am so obsessed with this song it's crazy. I haven't stanned like this for anyone other than Mariah my entire life.
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Post by skizzo on Nov 1, 2015 10:40:29 GMT -5
Oh please... I'm a fan of all 3 (Brit, Katy & Riri), and their tones was the last thing I cared about. When each of them came out, they just had fun songs that people enjoyed, and the quality of their material was good and suited pop radio like a glove. Their tenacity, the fact people found them relatable, their look, being provocative, being entertaining, everything helped and that's what set them apart from the rest.
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Post by Pat the Cat on Nov 1, 2015 11:22:32 GMT -5
With that AC update, I can't help but wonder what's the record for the fastest rise to #1 in AC? I have a feeling Hello is going to be there in like, 2 weeks. The next highest Peak Bullet on that chart - "Fight Song"'s 402 - is barely a third of "Hello"'s. That's just insane.
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Post by skizzo on Nov 1, 2015 11:22:56 GMT -5
Oh please... I'm a fan of all 3 (Brit, Katy & Riri), and their tones was the last thing I cared about. When each of them came out, they just had fun songs that people enjoyed, and the quality of their material was good and suited pop radio like a glove. Their tenacity, the fact people found them relatable, their look, being provocative, being entertaining, everything helped and that's what set them apart from the rest. I don't think there are many people who don't immediately recognize Britney or Rihanna's voices, or Katy's sounds. And if it was Mandy Moore or Jessica Simpson or Kelis who became huge, we'd be saying the same thing about them. They became big for other reasons, not because of their tone...
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Post by foxxden on Nov 1, 2015 11:33:41 GMT -5
While I do like this, it's far from the epicness that was "Rolling in the Deep" and "Someone Like You". I feel like some people are just getting caught up in the excitement of all these chart records being broken and it's not really about how good the song is anymore.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 1, 2015 11:35:07 GMT -5
Oh please... I'm a fan of all 3 (Brit, Katy & Riri), and their tones was the last thing I cared about. It's not about you though. It's about the people who sign them and decide they have something that makes them worthy of investment.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Nov 1, 2015 11:36:52 GMT -5
I don't think there are many people who don't immediately recognize Britney or Rihanna's voices, or Katy's sounds. And if it was Mandy Moore or Jessica Simpson or Kelis who became huge, we'd be saying the same thing about them. They became big for other reasons, not because of their tone... I disagree...I think comparing the tones of these three to the Mandy's and Jessica's of the world gets you your answer. Some are distinct/unique, others are not. To get back on topic, I think that Adele has quite the unique tone herself. Technically, I think I could name five "better" singers, but I would rather listen to Adele over them all day. She just has that absolutely silky smooth, effortless, heartbreaking tone to her voice.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 1, 2015 11:51:19 GMT -5
foxxden- you may have heard, but the charts and song quality don't necessarily go hand in hand. ;)
Adele is coming off of a massive album. So, whatever she released as the lead single was going to be an instant hit. She taps into these emotions that lots of people feel, in regard to love and relationships, and "Hello" is an example of such a song. it's a strong track.
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Post by balletgirlmom on Nov 1, 2015 14:38:16 GMT -5
I also think it helped Adele to remain mostly OUT of the public eye after her Oscar for Skyfall. By staying out of the public eye and concentrating on her personal life, we never got sick of her. Most of the younger artists never go away even during the times they do not have albums to push. Now that she is back we have interest in her. I bet after 25 is done with she goes back to England and lives a quiet life for a few years before coming back with another album.
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Post by foxxden on Nov 1, 2015 14:57:00 GMT -5
foxxden- you may have heard, but the charts and song quality don't necessarily go hand in hand. ;) Adele is coming off of a massive album. So, whatever she released as the lead single was going to be an instant hit. She taps into these emotions that lots of people feel, in regard to love and relationships, and "Hello" is an example of such a song. it's a strong track. Oh I get that completely. This single was so anticipated that whatever she released was destined to be huge. Plus it is a good song and Adele is very likable. My point was that if you browse through this thread it's less about how good the song is and what chart records it's breaking. Like I said I like a lot of other songs a lot better but this is fun to watch for chart fanatics.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 1, 2015 15:07:50 GMT -5
^I gotcha. :)
I listened to 19 this morning, for the first time in a while- good stuff. 21 will be another day.
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