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Post by upsidedown on Nov 1, 2015 16:40:33 GMT -5
The fact that they have not released official first week sales numbers yet.
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Post by skizzo on Nov 1, 2015 18:36:00 GMT -5
Oh please... I'm a fan of all 3 (Brit, Katy & Riri), and their tones was the last thing I cared about. It's not about you though. It's about the people who sign them and decide they have something that makes them worthy of investment. Doesn't mean its their "tone". I've given plenty of reasons why they thought they were worthy of investment. Anyway let's agree to disagree.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 1, 2015 18:39:46 GMT -5
It's not about you though. It's about the people who sign them and decide they have something that makes them worthy of investment. Doesn't mean its their "tone". I've given plenty of reasons why they thought they were worthy of investment. Anyway let's agree to disagree. I'm not disagreeing with you. I doubt record execs sit there and say "gee. I sure hope this person I'm meeting today has a good tone." But when you hear a singer that impresses you, I'm sure tone does play a part in what makes someone stand out.
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Post by josh on Nov 1, 2015 22:32:16 GMT -5
It's so great to witness another music milestone. Last time was Born this way. Before that? I could think of My heart will go on, Candle in the wind 1997 (FYI it was not a re-release but a new version of the original with lyrics adapted to fit Princess Di rather than Marylin Monroe), I will always love you. Not associated with events or movies? Probably Black or white (launching campaign and hype was insane and the song was the quickest to reach #1 in billboard in a long time), and Like a prayer (video, ad and song premieres were hyped in advance like no other song had and then the controversy and song quality took it to the top everywhere). What I'm starting to wonder now is how far Hello can reach in the year end ranking? I think (and hope) it can be top 5 despite its short time in the ranking, just due to the immense number of points already gained. I remember that Candle in the wind 1997 was already considered to be #1 of the year less than a month after its release due to the record breaking sales. Interesting to follow stats of highest sales and streams of the year... Hung Up was a pretty massive music milestone, wouldn't you say?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 22:38:49 GMT -5
Hung up was a moment for Madonna not a massive music milestone. Its not like it changed the face of a genre like "Fantasy" or something.
Back to the singer, Adele.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 3:06:54 GMT -5
It's not about you though. It's about the people who sign them and decide they have something that makes them worthy of investment. Doesn't mean its their "tone". I've given plenty of reasons why they thought they were worthy of investment. Anyway let's agree to disagree. I would say you are confusing 'necessary' with 'sufficient' and that's why you and mike seem to be at odds. Tone by itself is not going to make a label sign someone, or make that person a huge success. But it is absolutely a necessity. I don't care how fun your personality is or how catchy your songs are, if you seriously sound like total s**t even after a bunch of studio trickery, you're lacking the one thing that will ultimately get people to buy your songs; a label can't do anything with you since no one wants to be responsible for the next Milli Vanilli/random dancer caught bopping to Martha Wash. You might get lucky and become a celebutante or the next viral sensation but that's it. Of course there are plenty of people who have decent or even fantastic tones and they don't make it, but I am sitting here trying to think of even one successful singer who completely lacks a decent tone (putting aside my personal tastes) and I can't think of one. If there were a written recipe for pop hits it would be the number one instruction: don't sound like ass. *Note: only referring to studio voice. It's obvious that decent live vocals are neither sufficient nor necessary. And this is where I would disagree with mike more and then side with you, because ultimately a person's actual talent is often not the primary reason why that person got signed. Heck, look at the aforementioned Britney - the vocal talent was so secondary that we don't even require her to use it, as she has been lip-syncing for 90% of her career. It's just a mere formality that you sound okay in the studio before the label moves on to the more important checkbox of how marketable you are, which will entail other things. Of course, in this thread it's all a moot point, since a) Adele has a gorgeous tone; and b) her tone/vocal abilities are the main thing that make her so marketable (her personality plays a huge part too IMO, but the vocals are first and foremost). It's a win/win for everybody.
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Post by jimmyt on Nov 2, 2015 5:34:24 GMT -5
Modern studio technology can make pretty much anyone sound 'good', certainly good enough! Package a pretty face, get a few good writers in and a good studio, put in the $$$, manage the media. Off you go. 'Tone' is so down the list of a label's artist priorities it doesnt register.
Then there are real musicians and artists like Adele. Thank the Lord.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 2, 2015 6:03:08 GMT -5
POP: 31 18 ADELE Hello 5361 2001 3360 38.470
+602 Spins +222 Bullet +3.420 Audience
HOT AC: 23 11 ADELE Hello 3571 1347 2224 24.155
+324 Spins +14 Bullet +0.760 Audience
AC: 17 8 ADELE Hello 1592 352 1240 13.166
+168 Spins +76 Bullet +0.885 Audience
AAA: 21 2 ADELE Hello 562 221 341 1.875
+14 Spins -45 Bullet -0.032 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 100 43 ADELE Hello 555 61 494 2.048
+87 Spins +67 Bullet +0.301 Audience
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2015 9:19:17 GMT -5
RHYTHMIC 100 43 ADELE Hello 555 61 494 2.048
+87 Spins +67 Bullet +0.301 Audience
URBAN AC 155 42 ADELE Hello 71 8 63 0.833
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 2, 2015 9:21:46 GMT -5
Dark green on iTunes again. Multi-format smash. :'(
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Post by BRhap786 on Nov 2, 2015 10:29:07 GMT -5
All of those updates are literally insane.....especially hot ac and ac! Wow!
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Post by allow that on Nov 2, 2015 10:34:56 GMT -5
Any Urban AC or Latin/ Tropical spins yet?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 2, 2015 10:41:42 GMT -5
Any Urban AC or Latin/ Tropical spins yet? Top 50 at Urban AC
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 2, 2015 11:03:15 GMT -5
I am perched waiting on these download/streaming numbers!
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Post by Caviar on Nov 2, 2015 11:09:36 GMT -5
I love the AAA updates
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Post by nandete on Nov 2, 2015 11:21:23 GMT -5
3 green uptdates on iTunes
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 2, 2015 11:38:01 GMT -5
Looking at these updates makes me wonder if we'll be seeing ADELE dominating the entire Top 10 upon her album release week. Didn't MJ have like 7/10 when he died?
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Nov 2, 2015 11:46:15 GMT -5
Stuck on this song. I know before I said I'm not really into ballads, but damn.
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Post by Bhad Bill on Nov 2, 2015 13:06:04 GMT -5
I am perched waiting on these download/streaming numbers! Awesome! Me too, literally hitting refresh... Is it an absolute certainty that she broke 1 million downloads?
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 2, 2015 13:15:13 GMT -5
I am perched waiting on these download/streaming numbers! Awesome! Me too, literally hitting refresh... Is it an absolute certainty that she broke 1 million downloads? They are TROLLING on Periscope!
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Post by lyhom on Nov 2, 2015 13:16:51 GMT -5
this was expected anyways, but this debuted at #1 on the hot 100, also became the first song to sell over 1 million downloads in a single week
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Post by Kurt on Nov 2, 2015 13:21:17 GMT -5
One million in digital sales confirmed. Hot 100 debut: #1, obviously.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 2, 2015 13:21:46 GMT -5
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Post by anafan on Nov 2, 2015 13:22:14 GMT -5
Amazing
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Post by Kurt on Nov 2, 2015 13:23:16 GMT -5
Streaming (US): 61.6M - second-highest all-time behind "Harlem Shake" (103M) 20M On-Demand streams, doubling Bieber's old record for "What Do You Mean?"
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Post by nandete on Nov 2, 2015 13:24:08 GMT -5
QUEEN.
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Post by DJ General on Nov 2, 2015 13:37:36 GMT -5
It will probably break the Triple A record for spins & audience
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Post by maine on Nov 2, 2015 13:38:22 GMT -5
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Post by johnm1120 on Nov 2, 2015 13:41:37 GMT -5
Confirmed: Debuts at #1 this week, but that isn't really news now
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Post by Glove Slap on Nov 2, 2015 13:44:00 GMT -5
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