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Post by MWLJ on Nov 21, 2015 16:28:44 GMT -5
What are the last official #s for '19' and '21'? I know '21' is 11x platinum, but that's about it. I think 21 is at 11.3 million and 19 at 2.5 million from what I remember? Then yeah, I'm pretty sure 12x and 3x platinum is in the bag! Lol. This is insane and so awesome!
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Post by applechic on Nov 21, 2015 16:28:52 GMT -5
Wow there is so much hoopla around this album release. Everyone at work, school and social media are talking about it. Her appeal is definitely universal and spans across all age groups. I can't wait to see her on SNL tonight, hope she performs "When We Were Young"...amazing song, amazing artist.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 21, 2015 16:31:38 GMT -5
I think 21 is at 11.3 million and 19 at 2.5 million from what I remember? Then yeah, I'm pretty sure 12x and 3x platinum is in the bag! Lol. This is insane and so awesome! "21" is at: Adele, 21 ( 11,227,000 ) 11xP For 12xP, it would have to sell another 600k. Maybe in 2016?
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Post by MWLJ on Nov 21, 2015 16:38:45 GMT -5
Then yeah, I'm pretty sure 12x and 3x platinum is in the bag! Lol. This is insane and so awesome! "21" is at: Adele, 21 ( 11,227,000 ) 11xP For 12xP, it would have to sell another 600k. Maybe in 2016? Yeah, by the end of next year. I didn't mean anytime this year. I imagine RITD will pass I Gotta Feeling for biggest digital seller also!
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 21, 2015 16:39:24 GMT -5
LOL. Stop. Nothing about this release is disappointing in 2015.No, not for the industry, but for expectations, yes. If it does not beat NSYNC, absolutely. No, it's not. Sorry but overexagerations on this forum sometimes are a bit too much. I remember the drama when 1989 was supposed to sell less than a million, when the truth it was not drama at all because the sales where very big anyway and the album proved to have legs. This is exactly the same, i suppose if Hello wasn't the monster hit it is people probably would have low the expectations. The truth is 21 was such a monster that it's very very difficult to even come close (no matter how big this start to sell). So selling 2 f****g million is no dissapointing no matter if she doesn't beat N'Sync record. Industry is just not the same. She is going to sell in her first week more than Sam Smith in a year and a half, and In the lonely hour is one of the best selling debuts in a good while. She could even surpass Bruno Mars sales and he is one of the most successful artists right now. So no, not beating a record of an incredibly popular boyband at their peak from an era where album sales were way bigger won't be a dissapointment
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Post by DJ General on Nov 21, 2015 16:40:25 GMT -5
Whatever, it seems like she will anyways now so who cares. Can't wait for the final numbers!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 21, 2015 16:41:34 GMT -5
"21" is at: Adele, 21 ( 11,227,000 ) 11xP For 12xP, it would have to sell another 600k. Maybe in 2016? Yeah, by the end of next year. I didn't mean anytime this year. I imagine RITD will pass I Gotta Feeling for biggest digital seller also! RITD went 8xP in May 2013. I think being Diamond (10xP) is very likely.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 21, 2015 17:05:43 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people pay to rent music. $10/mo to listen to 99.9% of music ever released, any time you want, instantly... not sure why someone WOULDN'T take that deal.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 21, 2015 17:13:59 GMT -5
"25" will debut into the Top 15 of the Best Sellers from 2010-2015
01 - 11,176,000 - 21 - Adele 11xP 02 - 5,274,000 - 1989 - Taylor Swift 5xP 03 - 4,694,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem 3xP 04 - 4,525,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift 4xP 05 - 4,235,000 - RED - Taylor Swift 4xP 06 - 4,089,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum 4xP 07 - 4,083,000 - FROZEN - Soundtrack 08 - 3,734,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael BublΓ© not certified 09 - 3,333,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber 3xP 10 - 3,238,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons 3xP
11 - 3,179,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean 3xP 12 - 3,006,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry 3xP 13 - 2,773,000 - BABEL - Mumford & Sons 2xP 14 - 2,586,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons 2xP 15 - 2,553,000 - THE 20/20 EXPERIENCE - Justin Timberlake 2xP 16 - 2,516,000 - CRASH MY PARTY - Luke Bryan 2xP 17 - 2,469,000 - TAILGATES AND TANLINES - Luke Bryan 2xP 18 - 2,464,000 - DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars 2xP 19 - 2,450,000 - UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX - Bruno Mars 2xP 20 - 2,355,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne 2xP
(Sales figures through end of September 2015)
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 21, 2015 17:15:48 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people pay to rent music. $10/mo to listen to 99.9% of music ever released, any time you want, instantly... not sure why someone WOULDN'T take that deal. Not to mention not having to store CDs or clog computer/phone with files.... Except for certain single remixes, out of print stuff, I've been able to clear 5,000+ songs off my computer and move them to a cloud if they weren't on a physical CD. It's funny how CDs saved 'space' from albums then digital downloads replaced CDs and now streaming has made it even better. And, considering how much I used to spend monthly, $10 is a complete bargain.
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Post by Gary on Nov 21, 2015 19:10:35 GMT -5
Then if you cancel your subscription or stop paying your bill it all goes away.
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Post by Nick on Nov 21, 2015 19:25:37 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people pay to rent music. $10/mo to listen to 99.9% of music ever released, any time you want, instantly... not sure why someone WOULDN'T take that deal. THIS! Oh, and I'm glad that Adele will break the records that were in place set by teen acts or music that was aimed at teenage girls.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 21, 2015 19:49:53 GMT -5
$10/mo to listen to 99.9% of music ever released, any time you want, instantly... not sure why someone WOULDN'T take that deal. THIS! Oh, and I'm glad that Adele will break the records that were in place set by teen acts or music that was aimed at teenage girls. I know. I hate teenage girls too.
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Post by felipe on Nov 21, 2015 20:04:18 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people pay to rent music. Can you afford to buy every single song or album you want to listen to? And by the way, do you dislike Netflix as well?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 21, 2015 20:11:58 GMT -5
Nothing from HITS...
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 21, 2015 20:30:33 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people pay to rent music. Can you afford to buy every single song or album you want to listen to? And by the way, do you dislike Netflix as well? Oh, I have an Apple Music subscription, as well as iTunes Match. I pay for the convenience, but I always buy the hard copy. My purchases will always be there. I have Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Prime. They are, again, for convenience. I buy everything on Blu-Ray and DVD, which 99% come with digital codes that are good anywhere and don't require a subscription. Streaming would never be my only way to listen to music. Just like I would own a home vs. just renting. It's all a matter of personal taste though, so whatever blows yalls skirts up is fine with me!
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Post by slw84 on Nov 21, 2015 20:54:47 GMT -5
O. I didn't realize that with the numbers given, but it was going to happen either way. At least, Britney held the record for more than 15 years. Poor Brit wont even get mentioned since Adele is breaking NSYNC's record too :( Perhaps that is a good thing but I'm sure they will mention her being the top female and top person overall. I wouldn't be surprised to see a cheesy Oops...adele did it again or a Bye bye bye to your record and Hello, it's me to adele snatching the record
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Post by Caviar on Nov 21, 2015 21:05:51 GMT -5
Then if you cancel your subscription or stop paying your bill it all goes away. You can re-subscribe at anytime and all your playlists, search history, and play counts all remain in tact.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 21, 2015 21:48:54 GMT -5
Then if you cancel your subscription or stop paying your bill it all goes away. I dont plan to cancel. That is always such a weird argument -- as if that is not in my control. Physical items can be lost. Digital items can be lost by a fried computer. This feels a little like the person who won't throw away boxes of junk "in case they may need it some day." I'll admit I was that person at one point until I realized - the worst case scenario is that I'd have to buy something again. And that almost never happens. I wasn't a streamer until Apple Music came along. I realized it opened me up to listen to music I wouldn't have bought before, and it eliminated buyers remorse when I listened to an album I would've bought before and didn't end up liking. My biggest worry about streaming was when you don't have an Internet connection, but it's super easy to save stuff for offline listening. I haven't found a major downside yet.
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Post by Gary on Nov 21, 2015 22:00:56 GMT -5
Then if you cancel your subscription or stop paying your bill it all goes away. I dont plan to cancel. That is always such a weird argument -- as if that is not in my control. Physical items can be lost. Digital items can be lost by a fried computer. This feels a little like the person who won't throw away boxes of junk "in case they may need it some day." I'll admit I was that person at one point until I realized - the worst case scenario is that I'd have to buy something again. And that almost never happens. I wasn't a streamer until Apple Music came along. I realized it opened me up to listen to music I wouldn't have bought before, and it eliminated buyers remorse when I listened to an album I would've bought before and didn't end up liking. My biggest worry about streaming was when you don't have an Internet connection, but it's super easy to save stuff for offline listening. I haven't found a major downside yet. [br Call it weird if you want. You are not canceling today, tomorrow or anytime soon. I get that. What ten years from now? Twenty? At any point in time that you cancel.all that you have accumulated is gone. Before you say that will never happen, how do you know? What you priorities will be that far in the future
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Nov 21, 2015 22:24:55 GMT -5
I didn't know until this article that 21 has entered the Nielsen Music-era top 10. This means it just passed No Strings Attached in total sales. Fitting.
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Post by Nick on Nov 21, 2015 22:30:41 GMT -5
I dont plan to cancel. That is always such a weird argument -- as if that is not in my control. Physical items can be lost. Digital items can be lost by a fried computer. This feels a little like the person who won't throw away boxes of junk "in case they may need it some day." I'll admit I was that person at one point until I realized - the worst case scenario is that I'd have to buy something again. And that almost never happens. I wasn't a streamer until Apple Music came along. I realized it opened me up to listen to music I wouldn't have bought before, and it eliminated buyers remorse when I listened to an album I would've bought before and didn't end up liking. My biggest worry about streaming was when you don't have an Internet connection, but it's super easy to save stuff for offline listening. I haven't found a major downside yet. [br Call it weird if you want. You are not canceling today, tomorrow or anytime soon. I get that. What ten years from now? Twenty? At any point in time that you cancel.all that you have accumulated is gone. Before you say that will never happen, how do you know? What you priorities will be that far in the future You can always support the artists you've always supported and buy their physical CD's or digital albums from iTunes. I would say over 90% of what I've been streaming over the last few years I would not be purchasing anyway.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 21, 2015 22:39:38 GMT -5
I dont plan to cancel. That is always such a weird argument -- as if that is not in my control. Physical items can be lost. Digital items can be lost by a fried computer. This feels a little like the person who won't throw away boxes of junk "in case they may need it some day." I'll admit I was that person at one point until I realized - the worst case scenario is that I'd have to buy something again. And that almost never happens. I wasn't a streamer until Apple Music came along. I realized it opened me up to listen to music I wouldn't have bought before, and it eliminated buyers remorse when I listened to an album I would've bought before and didn't end up liking. My biggest worry about streaming was when you don't have an Internet connection, but it's super easy to save stuff for offline listening. I haven't found a major downside yet. [br Call it weird if you want. You are not canceling today, tomorrow or anytime soon. I get that. What ten years from now? Twenty? At any point in time that you cancel.all that you have accumulated is gone. Before you say that will never happen, how do you know? What you priorities will be that far in the future I've already addressed this and how convenient you skipped over my post lol. You can cancel and pick up right where you left off. I can listen to music on Spotify from the 60s and 70s that's well out of print or production. There's no more Sam Goody's or Columbia House's for back catalogs for physical albums. At best you can buy used on Amazon but who knows the quality of the disc? There's no one size fits all when it comes to choosing streaming or buying physical as it comes down to convenience.
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Post by Gary on Nov 21, 2015 22:46:39 GMT -5
[br Call it weird if you want. You are not canceling today, tomorrow or anytime soon. I get that. What ten years from now? Twenty? At any point in time that you cancel.all that you have accumulated is gone. Before you say that will never happen, how do you know? What you priorities will be that far in the future I've already addressed this and how convenient you skipped over my post lol. You can cancel and pick up right where you left off. I can listen to music on Spotify from the 60s and 70s that's well out of print or production. There's no more Sam Goody's or Columbia House's for back catalogs for physical albums. At best you can buy used on Amazon but who knows the quality of the disc? There's no one size fits all when it comes to choosing streaming or buying physical as it comes down to convenience. And how convenient you skipped over mine. Simple example what happens when you are 50 or 60 years old and you decide to shut off your subscription for good? Do you get to takeout with you?
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 21, 2015 22:51:26 GMT -5
Not to mention you are at the mercy of the service. What happens when labels start wanting more money, and then drop their artists from services? It's going to happen eventually.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 21, 2015 22:58:02 GMT -5
I've already addressed this and how convenient you skipped over my post lol. You can cancel and pick up right where you left off. I can listen to music on Spotify from the 60s and 70s that's well out of print or production. There's no more Sam Goody's or Columbia House's for back catalogs for physical albums. At best you can buy used on Amazon but who knows the quality of the disc? There's no one size fits all when it comes to choosing streaming or buying physical as it comes down to convenience. And how convenient you skipped over mine. Simple example what happens when you are 50 or 60 years old and you decide to shut off your subscription for good? Do you get to takeout with you? Well we're conveniently skipping over each other then. While I can't predict 30-60 years from now AT THE PRESENT TIME streaming works well for people like me. The labels can move artists on and off the service but I can always purchase physical albums after being exposed to them through streaming. There's no better example than thumbing through an artist's catalog after their passing or their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (Chic, Chaka Khan, etc). There's no way I could do that for physical albums waiting to be shipped. In any event their music is pulled I can then buy their work, assuming it's still available for purchase.
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Post by forg on Nov 21, 2015 23:20:45 GMT -5
I love Spotify although I still do buy physical CDs for my favorite but sadly a lot of record companies are closing down here or just going digital as record stores continue to shrink (CD space moreso as record stores prioritize DVDs which still sell, karaokes and accessories like earphones and speakers. Anyway, I do agree with Adele's move to keep it off streaming services, go get those sales first!
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Post by sbp17 on Nov 21, 2015 23:36:05 GMT -5
And how convenient you skipped over mine. Simple example what happens when you are 50 or 60 years old and you decide to shut off your subscription for good? Do you get to takeout with you? The same thing that happened when you were 50 or 60 years old with records and all new music was on cassette. Or 50 or 60 years old with cassettes when all new music was on CD. You adapt.
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Post by Gary on Nov 22, 2015 0:07:04 GMT -5
I get and understand all the comments. I was just imagining a scenario where you subscribe to streaming service for 10 years, you pay your monthly fee and then all of a sudden you have different priorities in your life. Hard to imagine now, but it could happen. In my case, I don't listen to just current music, I listen to older stuff too. What happens if in that case, you want to listen to something that is 5 years old and you have decided you do not want to pay your Spotify bill any longer? As suggested, you adapt. But that involves probably spending extra money. to buy that 5 year old album
Probably weird, probably unlikely. I probably have no clue what I am saying. Unless it is true Spotify now = Spotify forever then something down the road will change and if you want to listen to that 5 year old album you might eventually have to buy it. Subscription rates could increase, artists could pull their catalogs, anything could happen.
But in the here and now, I understand what people are saying. 10 dollars seems to get a lot of entertainment for the money.
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Not to mention you are at the mercy of the service. What happens when labels start wanting more money, and then drop their artists from services? It's going to happen eventually. Exactly. Sometimes certain releases and whatnot have disappeared from all streaming services and digital stores. I know an indie record label owner who is about to pull the label's entire catalogue of releases from all streaming services as the amount of money coming in is so little and that he was able to determine that more money was being made when people would buy the releases instead of just streaming them and never buying them. He also wants to remove his releases from sale from certain stores as he says they are not sending over what little money is earned at the proper times (I wonder if this is happening with other labels too).
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