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Post by badrobot on Nov 22, 2015 0:39:03 GMT -5
I get and understand all the comments. I was just imagining a scenario where you subscribe to streaming service for 10 years, you pay your monthly fee and then all of a sudden you have different priorities in your life. Hard to imagine now, but it could happen. In my case, I don't listen to just current music, I listen to older stuff too. What happens if in that case, you want to listen to something that is 5 years old and you have decided you do not want to pay your Spotify bill any longer? As suggested, you adapt. But that involves probably spending extra money. to buy that 5 year old album Probably weird, probably unlikely. I probably have no clue what I am saying. Unless it is true Spotify now = Spotify forever then something down the road will change and if you want to listen to that 5 year old album you might eventually have to buy it. Subscription rates could increase, artists could pull their catalogs, anything could happen. But in the here and now, I understand what people are saying. 10 dollars seems to get a lot of entertainment for the money. Your points make a certain sense and everyone is entitled to enjoy music any way they look. But really we don't know if in 5, 10, 20 years there will be yet another medium that makes things antiquated. Someone with an amazing vinyl LP collection 30 years ago has likely repurchased a number of those albums, possibly more than once in multiple formats. My point is just that embracing streaming doesn't mean you're irreparably destroying your future music collection. |
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Post by DJ General on Nov 22, 2015 1:08:18 GMT -5
I'm always in a panic about my music collection lol but I just don't care for the whole digital or streaming stuff. I do still like to purchase actually CDs and support artists. I only buy maybe 10-15 discs a year and get the rest of the music from friends, DJs, online, libraries, etc. But I just don't care for the whole "streaming" thing. I've been against it for so long, but it does have a lot of positives. Who knows, maybe I will eventually cave.
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Post by 85la on Nov 22, 2015 1:40:00 GMT -5
I will say that I have been subscribing to streaming services for almost 13 years now (first Rhapsody and now Spotify), and I have absolutely no regrets. I'll admit that early on when streaming was new there were problems with some artists not being available and losing my collection and having to re-add everything, but even then the money, time, and convenience I saved was not even a question, and this problem has been vastly improved now. I have had to purchase maybe 2 or 3 albums in the past year that weren't available, and the fact that you can listen to your music offline to me makes it indistinguishable from iTunes/digital download purchases.
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Post by BlueSwan on Nov 22, 2015 1:50:49 GMT -5
I'm a bit shocked that "19" is at less than 3 million sold. I mean, if there is such hype surrounding the follow-up to "21" that she could sell almost 3 million copies of that in the first week - it seems odd that the prequel to "21" couldn't even sell that in its entire 6 year plus life span. Oh well, cult of the new, I guess.
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Post by carreramd on Nov 22, 2015 3:41:17 GMT -5
"25" will debut into the Top 15 of the Best Sellers from 2010-2015 01 - 11,176,000 - 21 - Adele 11xP 02 - 5,274,000 - 1989 - Taylor Swift 5xP 03 - 4,694,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem 3xP 04 - 4,525,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift 4xP 05 - 4,235,000 - RED - Taylor Swift 4xP 06 - 4,089,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum 4xP 07 - 4,083,000 - FROZEN - Soundtrack 08 - 3,734,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael Bublé not certified 09 - 3,333,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber 3xP 10 - 3,238,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons 3xP 11 - 3,179,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean 3xP 12 - 3,006,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry 3xP 13 - 2,773,000 - BABEL - Mumford & Sons 2xP 14 - 2,586,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons 2xP 15 - 2,553,000 - THE 20/20 EXPERIENCE - Justin Timberlake 2xP 16 - 2,516,000 - CRASH MY PARTY - Luke Bryan 2xP 17 - 2,469,000 - TAILGATES AND TANLINES - Luke Bryan 2xP 18 - 2,464,000 - DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars 2xP 19 - 2,450,000 - UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX - Bruno Mars 2xP 20 - 2,355,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne 2xP (Sales figures through end of September 2015) Where is Born This Way? |
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Post by popbox on Nov 22, 2015 4:00:47 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people pay to rent music. Well if I stuck to iTunes purchases, I would need like a $500-$1000 a year allowance for desired music purchases. And I simply can't afford that. $120 a year is much more reasonable to me to listen to anything out there when I want. Barring the occasional exception like 25 of course. And I still do buy physical albums from my top artists. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 5:08:31 GMT -5
"25" will debut into the Top 15 of the Best Sellers from 2010-2015 01 - 11,176,000 - 21 - Adele 11xP 02 - 5,274,000 - 1989 - Taylor Swift 5xP 03 - 4,694,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem 3xP 04 - 4,525,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift 4xP 05 - 4,235,000 - RED - Taylor Swift 4xP 06 - 4,089,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum 4xP 07 - 4,083,000 - FROZEN - Soundtrack 08 - 3,734,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael Bublé not certified 09 - 3,333,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber 3xP 10 - 3,238,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons 3xP 11 - 3,179,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean 3xP 12 - 3,006,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry 3xP 13 - 2,773,000 - BABEL - Mumford & Sons 2xP 14 - 2,586,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons 2xP 15 - 2,553,000 - THE 20/20 EXPERIENCE - Justin Timberlake 2xP 16 - 2,516,000 - CRASH MY PARTY - Luke Bryan 2xP 17 - 2,469,000 - TAILGATES AND TANLINES - Luke Bryan 2xP 18 - 2,464,000 - DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars 2xP 19 - 2,450,000 - UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX - Bruno Mars 2xP 20 - 2,355,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne 2xP (Sales figures through end of September 2015) Where is Born This Way? It was over 2.3m in April. |
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Post by swim on Nov 22, 2015 8:03:03 GMT -5
Doesn't Hits usually post their bit by now? I'm getting greedy here since we already got the billboard article. I have a feeling they may be gathering additional data to "out do" what Billboard posted. Since Billboard uses Soundscan sales to compile their charts and HITS does not, how can HITS out do Billboard? HITS posted last Saturday late afternoon. I meant like giving additional info on physical copies. Weird that Hits still hasn't posted anything. |
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Post by felipe on Nov 22, 2015 9:20:11 GMT -5
"25" will debut into the Top 15 of the Best Sellers from 2010-2015 01 - 11,176,000 - 21 - Adele 11xP 02 - 5,274,000 - 1989 - Taylor Swift 5xP 03 - 4,694,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem 3xP 04 - 4,525,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift 4xP 05 - 4,235,000 - RED - Taylor Swift 4xP 06 - 4,089,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum 4xP 07 - 4,083,000 - FROZEN - Soundtrack 08 - 3,734,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael Bublé not certified 09 - 3,333,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber 3xP 10 - 3,238,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons 3xP 11 - 3,179,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean 3xP 12 - 3,006,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry 3xP 13 - 2,773,000 - BABEL - Mumford & Sons 2xP 14 - 2,586,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - Imagine Dragons 2xP 15 - 2,553,000 - THE 20/20 EXPERIENCE - Justin Timberlake 2xP 16 - 2,516,000 - CRASH MY PARTY - Luke Bryan 2xP 17 - 2,469,000 - TAILGATES AND TANLINES - Luke Bryan 2xP 18 - 2,464,000 - DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars 2xP 19 - 2,450,000 - UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX - Bruno Mars 2xP 20 - 2,355,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne 2xP (Sales figures through end of September 2015) Where is Born This Way? Beyoncé is not on the list? I remember for a while it being right behind Frozen in sales. |
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 22, 2015 9:29:20 GMT -5
Beyoncé is not on the list? I remember for a while it being right behind Frozen in sales. That was for the year of 2014. Beyoncé has sold around 2 million copies. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 9:32:36 GMT -5
Beyoncé is not on the list? I remember for a while it being right behind Frozen in sales. She was at 2.2m in February and I don't think she's sold 200k since then. |
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Post by carreramd on Nov 22, 2015 9:37:38 GMT -5
Someone have the top 30 or 40 of this list?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 22, 2015 9:41:28 GMT -5
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20 - 2,355,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne 2xP
21 - 2,351,000 - BORN THIS WAY - Lady GaGa 2xP
22 - 2,346,000 - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP 2 - Eminem 2xP
23 - 2,279,000 - BEYONCÉ - Beyoncé 2xP
24 - 2,261,000 - TAKE CARE - Drake 1xP
25 - 2,255,000 - HERE'S TO THE GOOD TIMES - Florida Georgia Line 2xP
26 - 2,236,000 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa - released in 2008 3xP
27 - 2,190,000 - THE GIFT - Susan Boyle 3xP
28 - 2,099,000 - IN THE LONELY HOUR - Sam Smith 2xP
29 - 2,062,000 - UP ALL NIGHT - One Direction 2xP
30 - 2,062,000 - THE TRUTH ABOUT LOVE - Pink 2xP
31 - 2,021,000 - TAKE ME HOME - One Direction 2xP
32 - 1,991,000 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band - released in 2008 3xP
33 - 1,950,000 - PINK FRIDAY - Nicki Minaj 1xP
34 - 1,946,000 - YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE - Zac Brown Band 1xP
35 - 1,893,000 - OWN THE NIGHT - Lady Antebellum 1xP
36 - 1,887,000 - 19 - Adele - released in 2008 2xP
37 - 1,870,000 - CHIEF - Eric Church 1xP
38 - 1,827,000 - THANK ME LATER - Drake 1xP
39 - 1,815,000 - X - Ed Sheeran 1xP
40 - 1,801,000 - LOUD - Rihanna 1xP
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 22, 2015 10:11:46 GMT -5
So bizarre that Susan boyle's novelty act moved that many albums
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 22, 2015 12:05:42 GMT -5
HITS really missed the mark here by not releasing their estimates - the Billboard article is being linked across a broad array of publications - CNBC, Drudge, CNN, USAToday, Variety, Time, etc.
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Post by felipe on Nov 22, 2015 13:14:13 GMT -5
Beyoncé is not on the list? I remember for a while it being right behind Frozen in sales. That was for the year of 2014. Beyoncé has sold around 2 million copies. I really thought it'd sold way more than that. Didn't it sell 1 mi after just 10 days or something? Guess sales really stalled after the first couple of weeks. |
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Post by Duca on Nov 22, 2015 14:07:08 GMT -5
ADELE: BYE BYE BYE, RECORD BOOKS
Adele is now on track not just to break the existing record for first-week sales (NSYNC's 2.3m), but to smash it to dust. The current projection for the debut of her new XL/Columbia set, 25, is 2.5-2.9m.
Could even this astronomical number be a conservative estimate? Will last night’s SNL performance push her still further into the stratosphere? How huge is huge?
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 22, 2015 14:10:29 GMT -5
ADELE: BYE BYE BYE, RECORD BOOKS
Adele is now on track not just to break the existing record for first-week sales (NSYNC's 2.3m), but to smash it to dust. The current projection for the debut of her new XL/Columbia set, 25, is 2.5-2.9m.
Could even this astronomical number be a conservative estimate? Will last night’s SNL performance push her still further into the stratosphere? How huge is huge? HOLY S*IT. This is just unbelievable. I would love to see her hit 3 million in sales. She's already almost 4x platinum since they sent 3.6 million right off the bat. I wouldn't be surprised to see her sell close to 5 million total after black friday week. Black Friday alone, she should sell at least a million. |
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Post by slw84 on Nov 22, 2015 14:13:12 GMT -5
ADELE: BYE BYE BYE, RECORD BOOKS
Adele is now on track not just to break the existing record for first-week sales (NSYNC's 2.3m), but to smash it to dust. The current projection for the debut of her new XL/Columbia set, 25, is 2.5-2.9m.
Could even this astronomical number be a conservative estimate? Will last night’s SNL performance push her still further into the stratosphere? How huge is huge? Just as I said. They are going to use Bye bye bye or Oops Adele did it again. I'm thinking 2.8M-3.2M with the promotion set up after the 1 day sales forecase was tallied. |
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Post by wavey. on Nov 22, 2015 14:19:13 GMT -5
Damn. Just damn.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 22, 2015 14:34:55 GMT -5
That was for the year of 2014. Beyoncé has sold around 2 million copies. I really thought it'd sold way more than that. Didn't it sell 1 mi after just 10 days or something? Guess sales really stalled after the first couple of weeks. 01 617,319 BEYONCE Beyonce 01 373,803 BEYONCE Beyonce 01 310,270 BEYONCE Beyonce 02 130,490 BEYONCE Beyonce |
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Nov 22, 2015 16:16:54 GMT -5
I don't even know what to say about this insanity. Sit back and watch y'all... ADELE’S 25 IS ON FIRE AND MAKING HISTORY: 1.9M SOLD IN JUST TWO DAYS IN THE USIt’s fair to say this is going better than anyone dared expect. Adele’s 25 sold a scarcely believable 1.9m copies in its first two days on sale in the US, according to early data from reliable local retail monitor BuzzAngle – and therefore obviously shifted more than 2m copies across the world in the same timeframe. Sixty-two percent of these US sales (around 1.18m) were digital downloads, says BuzzAngle – after Adele and her Stateside label Columbia (Sony) notoriously decided not to put the album on streaming services such as Spotify. Of the 38% of US sales (722,000) on physical formats, 98% were on CD, with 2% on vinyl. |
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 22, 2015 16:32:34 GMT -5
Adele is literally shitting on the entire music industry.
My friend and I were talking about Adele today and she asked, "what's her main demographic?"...
I said "everyone"... Honestly the truth! This is insane!
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Post by Caviar on Nov 22, 2015 16:43:35 GMT -5
She deserves all this success. The album is genuinely good.
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Post by swim on Nov 22, 2015 16:51:30 GMT -5
There is no limit! This will likely end up on the high end of the Hits projection. The early estimates were at 1M digital (already surpassed) and 1.5 physical (almost halfway there).  |
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Post by badrobot on Nov 22, 2015 17:04:24 GMT -5
Adele is literally shitting on the entire music industry. Uhhh... thankfully, you're horribly misusing the word "literally" |
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 22, 2015 17:09:26 GMT -5
Adele is literally shitting on the entire music industry. Uhhh... thankfully, you're horribly misusing the word "literally" LOL, I obviously am using the exaggerative form of the word... She's FIGURATIVELY shitting on the industry, how's that?  |
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Post by aser94 on Nov 22, 2015 17:20:07 GMT -5
Did the 900K first-day figure for iTunes include preorders?
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Post by Bhad Bill on Nov 22, 2015 17:33:14 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people pay to rent music. $10/mo to listen to 99.9% of music ever released, any time you want, instantly... not sure why someone WOULDN'T take that deal. If you live in NYC and travel everywhere by subway and never have any cell phone service!! Haha. Plus I just enjoy having the physical CD for my collection sometime. I get the appeal of both, but I like to unplug sometimes and still have access to my music. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 22, 2015 17:35:02 GMT -5
Did the 900K first-day figure for iTunes include preorders? Of course. |
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