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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Nov 22, 2015 17:54:40 GMT -5
$10/mo to listen to 99.9% of music ever released, any time you want, instantly... not sure why someone WOULDN'T take that deal. If you live in NYC and travel everywhere by subway and never have any cell phone service!! Haha. Plus I just enjoy having the physical CD for my collection sometime. I get the appeal of both, but I like to unplug sometimes and still have access to my music. But you can save tracks from any of the subscription services for offline listening |
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 22, 2015 17:59:22 GMT -5
I don't even know what to say about this insanity. Sit back and watch y'all... ADELE’S 25 IS ON FIRE AND MAKING HISTORY: 1.9M SOLD IN JUST TWO DAYS IN THE USIt’s fair to say this is going better than anyone dared expect. Adele’s 25 sold a scarcely believable 1.9m copies in its first two days on sale in the US, according to early data from reliable local retail monitor BuzzAngle – and therefore obviously shifted more than 2m copies across the world in the same timeframe. Sixty-two percent of these US sales (around 1.18m) were digital downloads, says BuzzAngle – after Adele and her Stateside label Columbia (Sony) notoriously decided not to put the album on streaming services such as Spotify. Of the 38% of US sales (722,000) on physical formats, 98% were on CD, with 2% on vinyl. OMG. I just can't even process this. Is this real life? |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 22, 2015 18:13:31 GMT -5
Is 3.5 million possible?! 4?! I'm going to say 3.8.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 22, 2015 18:15:26 GMT -5
I'll go with 3.2 million. I don't see her continuing to sell a million a day, but maybe like 350-500k per day?
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Post by Gary on Nov 22, 2015 18:21:10 GMT -5
3.5 would get the Candle In The Wind record
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 18:59:14 GMT -5
3.5 would get the Candle In The Wind record Wasn't CITW a single? I don't understand how 25 (an album) could break CITW (a single)'s record... |
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 22, 2015 19:00:51 GMT -5
1.9 million in 2 days? INSANE! She's coming for 3 million, heck she's coming for 3.5-4 million even. I can't, I just can't. She's shattering records like it's child's play. Queen Adelegend, saviour of the music industry. Coming for that diamond album by Christmas. If she sell 3.5 million, she's on course for 2 million+ the week after and even 1 million+ the week after that omg. Urgh I cannot take this slayage, just amazing.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 22, 2015 19:05:19 GMT -5
If they play their cards right with singles, and some solid promo, 25 can be the biggest selling album for at least two years straight.
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Post by Gary on Nov 22, 2015 19:05:39 GMT -5
3.5 would get the Candle In The Wind record Wasn't CITW a single? I don't understand how 25 (an album) could break CITW (a single)'s record... Just a number. How about most units of a music title sold in a week?
Anyway, I bring this up to point out that the event-driven single in 1997 brought out the music buying public to buy 3.4 million units of that title in one week. Nothing has come close since to getting the public to buy 3 million of anything. No events, no singles, no albums, no nothing...until now.
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 22, 2015 19:12:33 GMT -5
If they play their cards right with singles, and some solid promo, 25 can be the biggest selling album for at least two years straight. Maybe even 3 years straight if they re-release a special edition on iTunes during the 2017 grammys where Adele will surely sweep? Maybe they could release a 5 year aniversary album for 21 next year too to coincide with the grammys?  |
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 22, 2015 19:31:38 GMT -5
If you live in NYC and travel everywhere by subway and never have any cell phone service!! Haha. Plus I just enjoy having the physical CD for my collection sometime. I get the appeal of both, but I like to unplug sometimes and still have access to my music. But you can save tracks from any of the subscription services for offline listening This is the same argument that happens over and over and over again. Some people just prefer to have a personal collection of music, some people prefer streaming. If people on this forum (a certain tech-driven music loving demographic) haven't converted yet, I doubt they're going to. |
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 22, 2015 19:46:10 GMT -5
Wasn't CITW a single? I don't understand how 25 (an album) could break CITW (a single)'s record... Just a number. How about most units of a music title sold in a week?
Anyway, I bring this up to point out that the event-driven single in 1997 brought out the music buying public to buy 3.4 million units of that title in one week. Nothing has come close since to getting the public to buy 3 million of anything. No events, no singles, no albums, no nothing...until now.
Very true. And selling an entire album is so much harder at that. I imagine this will end up as one of the biggest album eras in music history. She's broken so many records already and it hasn't even been a month... |
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Post by felipe on Nov 22, 2015 20:39:48 GMT -5
If you live in NYC and travel everywhere by subway and never have any cell phone service!! Haha. Plus I just enjoy having the physical CD for my collection sometime. I get the appeal of both, but I like to unplug sometimes and still have access to my music. But you can save tracks from any of the subscription services for offline listening Some people who argue against streaming don't even seem to have a clue how it works. |
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Post by felipe on Nov 22, 2015 20:42:34 GMT -5
Just a number. How about most units of a music title sold in a week?
Anyway, I bring this up to point out that the event-driven single in 1997 brought out the music buying public to buy 3.4 million units of that title in one week. Nothing has come close since to getting the public to buy 3 million of anything. No events, no singles, no albums, no nothing...until now.
Very true. And selling an entire album is so much harder at that. I imagine this will end up as one of the biggest album eras in music history. She's broken so many records already and it hasn't even been a month... Is the album that good though? It's doing great out of the gate because of all the hype, but I don't think it'll have 21's longevity. |
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Post by forg on Nov 22, 2015 20:55:52 GMT -5
WOW!!!
Go get those sales!
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 22, 2015 21:21:06 GMT -5
Very true. And selling an entire album is so much harder at that. I imagine this will end up as one of the biggest album eras in music history. She's broken so many records already and it hasn't even been a month... Is the album that good though? It's doing great out of the gate because of all the hype, but I don't think it'll have 21's longevity.I think it will have similar longevity to 21. It'll sell about half to three quaters of its total sales this Q4 and then they'll release ~4-5 singles leading up to the 2017 Grammys where I expect she'll do well (I can see "Hello" winning Record/Song of The Year & Pop vocal perfomance given its success and huge positive reception at the very least). So I think it'll stick around until then and sell a bunch more after the grammys before dying down late spring/summer 2017 (unless they decide to do a re-release or something). |
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Post by DJ General on Nov 22, 2015 21:27:35 GMT -5
So exciting!!! Hopefully the promo tomorrow night on Fallon will help more and the Today show!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 21:35:12 GMT -5
Can't you guys move your spotify discussion to another thread?
Amazing numbers for Adele. I still can't believe how well this is doing.
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Post by popbox on Nov 22, 2015 23:09:08 GMT -5
If they play their cards right with singles, and some solid promo, 25 can be the biggest selling album for at least two years straight. If they play their cards right, 25 could beat every album in sales ever released except Thriller. THAT'S how insane this is shaping up to be. |
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Post by brucelover on Nov 23, 2015 0:52:54 GMT -5
This won't outsell 21. The potential singles aren't as strong as the Rolling in the Deep-Someone Like You-Set Fire to the Rain 1-2-3 PUNCH!
The only song on this album at that level of "smash potential" is "Hello", and it's already doing its damage. But to surpass 21 it would need two other songs like that, and they just aren't there.
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Post by Juanca on Nov 23, 2015 2:20:57 GMT -5
I actually think this album has more potential hits than 21. Let's remember that SLY couldn't even reach #1 on the pop charts. Ballads were not in at that time yet. SFTTR smashed but RHI wasn't a big hit. I think her team is much more invested in making this a huge era. That includes making specials, interviews, etc. During 21 era, Glee and American Idol helped a lot with Adele turning into a success.
I think 25 has several potential hits. WWWY and SML can be the next SLY and SFTTR (although SML has even more pop potential), plus other tracks can also be successful. If Adele's team plays their cards right in terms of promo, videos, performances, new versions, this era can certainly be more successful in terms of singles than 21. Hello is on its way to have at least as many weeks at #1 we RITD. Exciting times any way!
So it seems that in its first week, 25 will be the biggest selling album of the year. WOW! If Billboard followed a calendar year, or at least a chart year that covered all November (smh) Adele could've been the artist of the year!
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Post by BlueSwan on Nov 23, 2015 2:42:34 GMT -5
This won't outsell 21. The potential singles aren't as strong as the Rolling in the Deep-Someone Like You-Set Fire to the Rain 1-2-3 PUNCH! The only song on this album at that level of "smash potential" is "Hello", and it's already doing its damage. But to surpass 21 it would need two other songs like that, and they just aren't there. Agree with this. At least in principle, as I haven't heard the album (I use Apple Music exclusively these days) and hence can't tell if there are any mega-singles outside of Hello on it. But in principle, there is a HUGE difference between selling 3 million out of the gate in an era of near perfect information and selling 11 million plus over the long haul - that difference is 8 million copies at a time when NOBODY sells 8 million copies. Overall album sales are still dire. As soon as the frontloaded sales are over, the album will settle into a more regular sales pattern of an era where even selling 1 million copies is a rarity. The longevity of the album will depend on the quality of the singles. |
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Post by brucelover on Nov 23, 2015 4:10:41 GMT -5
@meiamjuank who cares if SLY didn't go #1 on the pop charts? It was still a SMASH that was responsible for millions of copies of the album. It resonated IMMENSELY with the public and single-handedly brought piano ballads back as viable hit singles. It went #1 on the Hot 100 and all around the world too. I mean, Rolling in the Deep didn't go #1 in the UK. Does it mean it wasn't a real hit? Of course not. Charts are technicalities at the end of the day, the ~impact~ of those two singles are not something 25 has the ability to replicate. The songs aren't there.
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Post by Connor Walsh on Nov 23, 2015 4:54:14 GMT -5
But Hello's impact already surpassed everything from 21. So yeah 25 is a flop  |
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Post by BlueSwan on Nov 23, 2015 5:53:59 GMT -5
But Hello's impact already surpassed everything from 21. So yeah 25 is a flop Too early. Rolling In The Deep is the second biggest digital seller of all time in the US. Hello is far from that still. Anyway, I caved and am now listening to the album on itunes. There indeed do seem to be a few songs that could be sizable hits, although possibly not as earth-shattering as the 21 singles. Time will tell. |
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Post by Connor Walsh on Nov 23, 2015 6:43:00 GMT -5
But Hello's impact already surpassed everything from 21. So yeah 25 is a flop Too early. Rolling In The Deep is the second biggest digital seller of all time in the US. Hello is far from that still. Anyway, I caved and am now listening to the album on itunes. There indeed do seem to be a few songs that could be sizable hits, although possibly not as earth-shattering as the 21 singles. Time will tell. Sales at about 3m benchmark after one month of release , will pass ~5m ( SLY sales total ) by the end of year at the current pace. Plus it's driving 21 singles sales to new highs. |
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Post by bccole on Nov 23, 2015 7:28:03 GMT -5
3.5 would get the Candle In The Wind record Thanks for including CITW! Me doing so caused confusion is ATRL yesterday. I'm saying 25 will sell 3.5 million this week, and 1.25-1.5 million next week. Then she should stay between 500-800k until Christmas gets close, when she'll get back up to 800k-1 million the week before Christmas and 1-1.2 mil the week of Christmas. Both of these weeks are full tracking weeks this year. The week leading up to New Years will be 650-900k, and then the week after New Years will probably be the first week 25 falls below 500k. |
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 23, 2015 10:24:54 GMT -5
3.5 would get the Candle In The Wind record Thanks for including CITW! Me doing so caused confusion is ATRL yesterday. I'm saying 25 will sell 3.5 million this week, and 1.25-1.5 million next week. Then she should stay between 500-800k until Christmas gets close, when she'll get back up to 800k-1 million the week before Christmas and 1-1.2 mil the week of Christmas. Both of these weeks are full tracking weeks this year. The week leading up to New Years will be 650-900k, and then the week after New Years will probably be the first week 25 falls below 500k. Hooooo girl, you gonna be mighty disappointed. |
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Post by DJ General on Nov 23, 2015 10:47:32 GMT -5
"Saturday Night Live" Delivers Its Second-Best Overnights in 10 Months
These are the second-highest "SNL" results this season, behind only the Nov. 7 telecast (with host Donald Trump and musical guest Sia)
The show got a 2.3 18-49 rating which is basically higher than 50% of regular broadcast programming during the week.
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Post by swim on Nov 23, 2015 10:56:28 GMT -5
^And SNL usually increases it's viewers by 50% each week due to DVR usage.
I do agree with the idea that there are no limits with Adele, but it seems like some projections on how the 25 era will go are extremely optimistic. This could reach 21-like heights in overall sales but the feel of the era will be completely different. People discovered Adele throughout 2011 and 2012 allowing her to have sales each week at 100k+. That's not going to happen again, though 25 will obviously sell well in 2016. Adele also doesn't do a lot of promotion so there's that to consider too.
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