Billboard Hot 100: 06/11/2016

[jenglisbe]

May 30, 2016 15:50:59 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

May 30, 2016 15:27:53 GMT -5 NeRD said:

Since this is the Hot 100 thread, I was referring to the Hot 100. Considering the massive amounts of airplay and strong sales, its streaming is weak. Especially when there are songs with half its airplay consistently higher. I doubt it'll return to #1.

I just find it weird that you say that its lack of streaming will be its downfall despite the fact that it's doing very well in streaming (like I said, #4 on the Spotify Global Chart and #10 on the Spotify U.S. chart) but just not as well as songs like "One Dance" or "Panda" to strongly compete with them.

As was already explained, its streaming is behind its sales and airplay. Its streaming is what is keeping it from #1. So, it is correct to say its streaming will be its downfall if it doesn't get back to #1.

[Golden Bluebird]

May 31, 2016 7:47:45 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

May 30, 2016 15:50:59 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

I just find it weird that you say that its lack of streaming will be its downfall despite the fact that it's doing very well in streaming (like I said, #4 on the Spotify Global Chart and #10 on the Spotify U.S. chart) but just not as well as songs like "One Dance" or "Panda" to strongly compete with them.

As was already explained, its streaming is behind its sales and airplay. Its streaming is what is keeping it from #1. So, it is correct to say its streaming will be its downfall if it doesn't get back to #1.

I don't mean that him using the word "downfall" is what I found weird, but the fact that he said it lacks streaming despite evidence to the contrary. Its streaming may be weak compared to songs like "One Dance" or "Panda" (in the U.S. at least in the latter's case) that lessens its strength in competing with those songs especially the former, but describing it as a lack of streaming is what baffled me a little bit.

[Deleted]

Wow, that is some mammoth streaming for Panda. It looks like it'll probably be the year-end #1 streaming song. Well better that than Work that's for sure. Panda is about to pass Work on YTD U.S. YouTube streams I think

I hope JT can return to #1 soon. One Dance is okay but not the type of song I'd want to see #1 for 10 weeks. That's not the case for Hotline Bling. Just my opinion though.
Plus it's nice to have some quick turnover for a change and I don't want One Dance to break this new streak

[Envoirment]

There's a Justin Bieber remix of "One Dance" that was played over the weekend at some party. If that gets an official release Drake is going to do 10+ weeks quite easily I would think.

[Mr. Thonk Eyes]

May 31, 2016 10:27:09 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

There's a Justin Bieber remix of "One Dance" that was played over the weekend at some party. If that gets an official release Drake is going to do 10+ weeks quite easily I would think.

It's been slowing down in momentum on pop radio, so maybe this remix could help it pick back up over there and help it reach #1 on that chart, seeing how much pop radio loves Justin.

[NeRD]

May 31, 2016 8:14:16 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

May 31, 2016 7:47:45 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

As was already explained, its streaming is behind its sales and airplay. Its streaming is what is keeping it from #1. So, it is correct to say its streaming will be its downfall if it doesn't get back to #1.

I don't mean that him using the word "downfall" is what I found weird, but the fact that he said it lacks streaming despite evidence to the contrary. Its streaming may be weak compared to songs like "One Dance" or "Panda" (in the U.S. at least in the latter's case) that lessens its strength in competing with those songs especially the former, but describing it as a lack of streaming is what baffled me a little bit.

I think the issue is that you take certain chart term usage literally. Because there are more components to a song's success (in this case CSTF returning to #1), it is usually relative to compare with other songs.

[Golden Bluebird]

May 31, 2016 11:09:47 GMT -5 NeRD said:

May 31, 2016 8:14:16 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

I don't mean that him using the word "downfall" is what I found weird, but the fact that he said it lacks streaming despite evidence to the contrary. Its streaming may be weak compared to songs like "One Dance" or "Panda" (in the U.S. at least in the latter's case) that lessens its strength in competing with those songs especially the former, but describing it as a lack of streaming is what baffled me a little bit.

I think the issue is that you take certain chart term usage literally. Because there are more components to a song's success (in this case CSTF returning to #1), it is usually relative to compare with other songs.

Yeah, you're right. I was just trying to make a passing comment on your term usage and didn't expect people to argue with me on this as I still agreed with the general point you made. Still, yeah, probably shouldn't take it too literally.

Anyway...
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The new Top 10 has just been revealed earlier than usual. Here they are:

1. Drake ft. Wizkid & Kyla -- "One Dance"
2. Desiigner -- "Panda"
3. Justin Timberlake -- "Can't Stop the Feeling"
4. Fifth Harmony ft. Ty Dolla Sign -- "Work from Home"
5. The Chainsmokers ft. Daya -- "Don't Let Me Down"
6. Lukas Graham -- "7 Years"
7. Mike Posner -- "I Took a Pill in Ibiza"
8. Ariana Grande -- "Dangerous Woman"
9. Rihanna -- "Needed Me"
10. Rihanna ft. Drake -- "Work"

Outside of the Top 10:

11. Calvin Harris ft. Rihanna -- "This Is What You Came For"
12. Zayn -- "Pillowtalk"
14. DNCE -- "Cake by the Ocean"
15. Nick Jonas ft. Tove Lo -- "Close"
16. Pink -- "Just Like Fire"
21. Drake -- "Controlla"
24. Sia ft. Sean Paul -- "Cheap Thrills"
25. Kent Jones -- "Don't Mind"
26. Adele -- "Send My Love (To Your New Lover)"
30. Twenty One Pilots -- "Ride"
34. Drake ft. Rihanna -- "Too Good"
39. Beyonce -- "Sorry"
41. Meghan Trainor -- "Me Too"
50. Alessia Cara -- "Wild Things"
51. Ariana Grande -- "Into You"
66. Pitbull ft. Enrique Iglesias -- "Messin' Around"
83. Rihanna -- "Love on the Brain"
86. X Ambassadors -- "Unsteady"

Source 1: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7386139/drake-one-dance-hot-100-ariana-grande-dangerous
Source 2: www.periscope.tv/w/1lDxLqXRYvyKm
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I'm surprised that Cake By The Ocean went back up

[Future Captain]

Cheap Thrills nearing top 20

[Dylan :)]

Wild Things top 50 and Close top 15 Great week!

[Caviar]

Looks like "Work" and "This Is What You Came For" will switch places next week. Ugh I wanted 3 songs in the top 10!

[jenglisbe]

May 31, 2016 8:14:16 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

May 31, 2016 7:47:45 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

As was already explained, its streaming is behind its sales and airplay. Its streaming is what is keeping it from #1. So, it is correct to say its streaming will be its downfall if it doesn't get back to #1.

I don't mean that him using the word "downfall" is what I found weird, but the fact that he said it lacks streaming despite evidence to the contrary. Its streaming may be weak compared to songs like "One Dance" or "Panda" (in the U.S. at least in the latter's case) that lessens its strength in competing with those songs especially the former, but describing it as a lack of streaming is what baffled me a little bit.

I think you are misreading/misquoting; his exact quote was:

Considering the massive amounts of airplay and strong sales, its streaming is weak.

He clearly stated its streaming was weak relative to its airplay and sales. That is not him saying it lacks streaming.

[MTSChart21]

May 31, 2016 12:05:31 GMT -5 Caviar said:

Looks like "Work" and "This Is What You Came For" will switch places next week. Ugh I wanted 3 songs in the top 10!

There are 10 songs in the top 10, though. (lol)

[Caviar]

May 31, 2016 13:39:52 GMT -5 MTSChart21 said:

May 31, 2016 12:05:31 GMT -5 Caviar said:

Looks like "Work" and "This Is What You Came For" will switch places next week. Ugh I wanted 3 songs in the top 10!

There are 10 songs in the top 10, though. (lol)

lol..i meant Rihanna

[MTSChart21]

May 31, 2016 13:49:21 GMT -5 Caviar said:

May 31, 2016 13:39:52 GMT -5 MTSChart21 said:

There are 10 songs in the top 10, though. (lol)

lol..i meant Rihanna

Yeah, I know

[lyhom]

oh yay DMLD is top 5!

[Golden Bluebird]

May 31, 2016 13:21:26 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

May 31, 2016 8:14:16 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

I don't mean that him using the word "downfall" is what I found weird, but the fact that he said it lacks streaming despite evidence to the contrary. Its streaming may be weak compared to songs like "One Dance" or "Panda" (in the U.S. at least in the latter's case) that lessens its strength in competing with those songs especially the former, but describing it as a lack of streaming is what baffled me a little bit.

I think you are misreading/misquoting; his exact quote was:

Considering the massive amounts of airplay and strong sales, its streaming is weak.

He clearly stated its streaming was weak relative to its airplay and sales. That is not him saying it lacks streaming.

Yes, that's true. That's not the post I was referring to. This is:

May 30, 2016 9:01:52 GMT -5 NeRD said:

CSTF's lack of streaming will be its downfall.

[jenglisbe]

May 31, 2016 14:09:22 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

May 31, 2016 13:21:26 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

I think you are misreading/misquoting; his exact quote was:
He clearly stated its streaming was weak relative to its airplay and sales. That is not him saying it lacks streaming.

Yes, that's true. That's not the post I was referring to. This is:

May 30, 2016 9:01:52 GMT -5 NeRD said:

CSTF's lack of streaming will be its downfall.

And in terms of the Hot 100, that statement has been factually accurate apart from its first week.

I don't see why this discussion needs to continue. You seem sensitive in re: to "CSTF," which is fine, but that doesn't mean that what the poster said was inaccurate or should be misquoted.

[Golden Bluebird]

May 31, 2016 14:22:33 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

May 31, 2016 14:09:22 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

Yes, that's true. That's not the post I was referring to. This is:

And in terms of the Hot 100, that statement has been factually accurate apart from its first week.

I don't see why this discussion needs to continue. You seem sensitive in re: to "CSTF," which is fine, but that doesn't mean that what the poster said was inaccurate or should be misquoted.

But I never misquoted his post, and I wouldn't say I'm sensitive in regards to CSTF but just the fact that he said it lacked streaming was what bothered me as I initially took it literally which I said I realized may be wrong on my part.

And yes, I agree that this discussion shouldn't continue, as I don't think arguing technicalities is something that deserves a discussion as long as this one. In this case though, I was just trying to correct you when you replied that I misquoted him. Otherwise, I don't want this discussion to continue any longer.

[rimetm]

I wonder if Messin' Around will be a legitimate Pitbull hit or be a repeat of the second half of 2014 where Wild Wild Love and Fireball both stalled and ended up not quite big enough to hit the year end. Timber was fresh for the winter and was tailored for the summer enabling a long run, and Time of Our Lives had a proven good collab (Give Me Everything), but then again lightning didn't strike twice with the follow up Fun (with Chris Brown who was on International Love), so I don't know if the pedigree of I Like It is a sign in this case.

Also, I hope No. 13 is Never Forget You. It'd be a shame if its top 10 bid ended already.

[Mayman]

I'm so glad DW got a new peak!

[jenglisbe]

May 31, 2016 14:34:19 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

May 31, 2016 14:22:33 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

And in terms of the Hot 100, that statement has been factually accurate apart from its first week.

I don't see why this discussion needs to continue. You seem sensitive in re: to "CSTF," which is fine, but that doesn't mean that what the poster said was inaccurate or should be misquoted.

But I never misquoted his post, and I wouldn't say I'm sensitive in regards to CSTF but just the fact that he said it lacked streaming was what bothered me as I initially took it literally which I said I realized may be wrong on my part.

And yes, I agree that this discussion shouldn't continue, as I don't think arguing technicalities is something that deserves a discussion as long as this one. In this case though, I was just trying to correct you when you replied that I misquoted him. Otherwise, I don't want this discussion to continue any longer.

But you are misquoting him in saying he said it lacked streaming. That's my point. He didn't write that in and of itself. The first statement said it's lack of streaming will be its downfall (which to this point is true; the lack of streaming in relation to "One Dance" and "Panda" is why it's #3), and the second statement said it's streaming is weak when compared to its sales and airplay (which to this point is also true).

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Oh Ffs. He explained himself already! Now you're just putting unintentional meaning to his works when he's already explained them.

[Caviar]

CSTF is flopping on streaming now let's move on.

[Deleted]

This Is What You Came For and Just Like Fire are close to reaching top 10 next week - I think Dangerous Woman and Work are gonna fall a few positions each

[Deleted]

Yay DLMD reached top 5

[rimetm]

May 31, 2016 16:20:04 GMT -5 @pete said:

This Is What You Came For and Just Like Fire are close to reaching top 10 next week - I think Dangerous Woman and Work are gonna fall a few positions each

Be careful on fast judgement on Just Like Fire. Though it has good sales and should benefit from the movie effect, keep in mind that it had the BBMA effect last week that it'll need to compensate for in keeping momentum, and the movie effect may be understated due to the low box office results and/or the Depp domestic abuse case.

[Deleted]

I'm surprised that Ride didn't go up more spaces, considering it went from around #44 on iTunes to #12 this past week. Oh well, looks like it's gonna smash around August or so.

Glad that DW got a new peak. Does it have a chance to get more points than NO if that song keeps falling the way it has been lately and DW goes down much more slowly? With the radio gains, I'm thinking DW might leave the top 10 next week, but still remain in that general area for a while.

[jarhys]

DW sales picked up since the album was released. It might drop almost half of the sales next week. Its airplay is slow growing but might not earn it a newer peak.

[Deleted]

May 31, 2016 17:45:17 GMT -5 rimetm said:

May 31, 2016 16:20:04 GMT -5 @pete said:

This Is What You Came For and Just Like Fire are close to reaching top 10 next week - I think Dangerous Woman and Work are gonna fall a few positions each

Be careful on fast judgement on Just Like Fire. Though it has good sales and should benefit from the movie effect, keep in mind that it had the BBMA effect last week that it'll need to compensate for in keeping momentum, and the movie effect may be understated due to the low box office results and/or the Depp domestic abuse case.

True. The movie is bombing, relatively, and it's growth at Pop has slowed way down.  I'm betting against top 10 for Pink this time.  Just doesn't seem likely.