Billboard Hot 100: 08/06/2016

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

August 8, 1981

01 01 Jessie's Girl - Rick Springfield (2nd and final week at #1)
02 14 Endless Love - Diana Ross & Lionel Richie
03 03 Theme From Greatest American Hero - Joey Scarbury
04 04 I Don't Need You - Kenny Rogers
05 05 Elvira - The Oak Ridge Boys
06 06 Slow Hand - The Pointer Sisters
07 08 Boy From New York City - Manhattan Transfer
08 09 Hearts - Marty Balin
09 10 Queen Of Hearts - Juice Newton
10 02 The One That You Love - Air Supply


August 9, 1986

01 01 Glory Of Love - Peter Cetera (2nd and final week at #1)
02 04 Papa Don't Preach - Madonna
03 06 Mad About You - Belinda Carlisle
04 02 Sledgehammer - Peter Gabriel
05 09 We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off - Jermaine Stewart
06 07 Love Touch - Rod Stewart
07 03 Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins
08 12 Higher Love - Steve Winwood
09 15 Venus - Bananarama
10 13 Rumors - Timex Social Club


August 10, 1991

01 01 (Everything I Do) I Do It For You - Bryan Adams (3rd of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 P.A.S.S.I.O.N. - Rythm Syndicate
03 05 Every Heartbeat - Amy Grant
04 04 Summertime - DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
05 06 It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over - Lenny Kravitz
06 08 Temptation - Corina
07 09 Fading Like a Flower (Every Time You Leave) - Roxette
08 10 I'll Be There - The Escape Club
09 03 Right Here, Right Now - Jesus Jones
10 11 Winds Of Change - The Scorpions


August 3, 1996

01 04 Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - Los Del Rio (1st of 14 weeks at #1)
02 01 You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow - Toni Braxton
03 02 How Do U Want It / California Love - 2Pac feat. K-Ci & JoJo
04 03 Give Me One Reason - Tracy Chapman
05 08 I Can't Sleep Baby (If I) - R. Kelly
06 07 Change The World - Eric Clapton
07 05 Twisted - Keith Sweat
08 06 You Learn / You Oughta Know - Alanis Morissette
09 09 C'Mon N' Ride It (The Train) - The Quad City DJ's
10 13 Loungin' - LL Cool J feat. Total

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

July 31, 1961 (For the week ending August 5)

01 01 Tossin' & Turnin' - Bobby Lewis (4th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 05 I Like It Like That - Chris Kenner
03 02 The Boll Weevil Song - Brook Benton
04 08 Dum Dum - Brenda Lee
05 06 Hats Off To Larry - Del Shannon
06 03 Quarter To Three - Gary U.S. Bonds
07 12 Last Night - The Mar-Keys
08 09 Together - Connie Francis
09 10 Let's Twist Again - Chubby Checker
10 04 Yellow Bird - The Arthur Lyman Group


August 6, 1966

01 01 Wild Thing - The Troggs (2nd and final week at #1)
02 03 Lil' Red Riding Hood - Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs
03 07 Summer In The City - The Lovin' Spoonful
04 04 The Pied Piper - Crispian St. Peters
05 11 They're Coming To Take Me Away Ha-Haaa! - Napoleon XIV
06 05 I Saw Her Again - The Mamas & The Papas
07 02 Hanky Panky - Tommy James & The Shondells
08 08 Sweet Pea - Tommy Roe
09 09 Mother's Little Helper - The Rolling Stones
10 10 Somewhere My Love - Ray Conniff


August 7, 1971

01 06 How Can You Mend a Broken Heart - The Bee Gees (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Indiana Reservation - The Raiders
03 01 You've Got a Friend - James Taylor
04 04 Mr. Big Stuff - Jean Knight
05 05 Draggin' The Line - Tommy James
06 08 Take Me Home, Country Roads - John Denver
07 03 It's Too Late / I Feel The Earth Move - Carole King
08 16 Beginnings / Color My World - Chicago
09 10 What The World Needs Now Is Love - Tom Clay
10 11 Mercy, Mercy Me (The Ecology) - Marvin Gaye


August 7, 1976

01 05 Don't Go Breaking My Heart - Elton John & Kiki Dee (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Love Is Alive - Gary Wright
03 03 Moonlight Feels Right - Starbuck
04 10 Let 'Em In - Wings
05 11 You Should Be Dancing - The Bee Gees
06 08 Rock & Roll Music - The Beach Boys
07 07 Got To Get You Into My Life - The Beatles
08 01 Kiss And Say Goodbye - The Manhattans
09 13 You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine - Lou Rawls
10 04 Afternoon Delight - The Starland Vocal Band

[jayhawk1117]

Jul 23, 2016 23:39:21 GMT -5 THINKIN BOUT YOU said:

When will Bruno and Katy's lead singles come?

katy will probably be late August, early September and Bruni will probably be around his usual time.

[badrobot]

So are the people who said Katy was guaranteed a #1 with her next single going to pretend like Rise doesn't count? I notice they've all been silent now that her new single is finally out.

[Au$tin]

Jul 24, 2016 10:50:04 GMT -5 Parerastarr10 said:

I know streaming accounts for more compared to airplay and sales, but what is the ratio exactly? Anyone know?

We don't know the exact number, but we speculate the formula to be pretty close to:

Sales/9 + Airplay (non-decimal form)/10000 + Streaming/12

[jayhawk1117]

One upside about streaming being ridiculously prominent right now is the fact that a 17 week number is bound to happen soon. Just in the last year we've had Hello, Work and One Dance all had 9 weeks plus. And Uptown would've broken it had See You Again not swoop in at the last second. Quote me on this, the record will be broken by next Christmas.

[Gary]

Jul 24, 2016 13:08:55 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

One upside about streaming being ridiculously prominent right now is the fact that a 17 week number is bound to happen soon. Just in the last year we've had Hello, Work and One Dance all had 9 weeks plus. And Uptown would've broken it had See You Again not swoop in at the last second. Quote me on this, the record will be broken by next Christmas.

OK - Christmas 2016 or 2017?

[jayhawk1117]

Jul 24, 2016 12:19:15 GMT -5 badrobot said:

So are the people who said Katy was guaranteed a #1 with her next single going to pretend like Rise doesn't count? I notice they've all been silent now that her new single is finally out.

except the faCT that Rise isn't even a single from her new album. Do you count Sledgehammer a legit rihanna single?

[jayhawk1117]

Jul 24, 2016 13:13:43 GMT -5 Gary said:

Jul 24, 2016 13:08:55 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

One upside about streaming being ridiculously prominent right now is the fact that a 17 week number is bound to happen soon. Just in the last year we've had Hello, Work and One Dance all had 9 weeks plus. And Uptown would've broken it had See You Again not swoop in at the last second. Quote me on this, the record will be broken by next Christmas.

OK - Christmas 2016 or 2017?

2017

[Gary]

Jul 24, 2016 13:16:05 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Jul 24, 2016 12:19:15 GMT -5 badrobot said:

So are the people who said Katy was guaranteed a #1 with her next single going to pretend like Rise doesn't count? I notice they've all been silent now that her new single is finally out.

except the faCT that Rise isn't even a single from her new album. Do you count Sledgehammer a legit rihanna single?

If Rise was performing better, "proper single" or not, would you be counting it?

[surfy]

Jul 24, 2016 13:16:05 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Jul 24, 2016 12:19:15 GMT -5 badrobot said:

So are the people who said Katy was guaranteed a #1 with her next single going to pretend like Rise doesn't count? I notice they've all been silent now that her new single is finally out.

except the faCT that Rise isn't even a single from her new album. Do you count Sledgehammer a legit rihanna single?

Hunny, what do you call an Apple Exclusive single that took up every banner, has a music video with a second one on the way (the second one has a FUCKING TRAILER up rn), AND is being pushed by the Olympics (because let's be real they need something positive to focus on rn)?

Sledgehammer was thrown out there with 0 promo. Not the same scenario whatsoever. Next.

[Ravi]

Jul 24, 2016 9:03:38 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jul 24, 2016 7:48:04 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

If not #1? How so? We aren't even 3 days into the sales week and "Cheap Thrills" is already getting 75% of the sales of "Cold Water."

Depends on how much it was able to sell in those first few days and how well its streaming holds up. Currently, its ahead of CT on Spotify. Airplay may be the saving grace to keep CT on top. It's a bit too early to make a precise prediction, but it's going to be a nice battle between the two for the week.

CW should sell 125-140k, same ballpark as CT and will have 12-15M streams, again same ballpark. But CT will have a HUGE advantage in airplay. So I don't think there is ANY chance for #1 debut.

I think it will be debuting in #4-6 range.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 24, 2016 13:16:05 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Jul 24, 2016 12:19:15 GMT -5 badrobot said:

So are the people who said Katy was guaranteed a #1 with her next single going to pretend like Rise doesn't count? I notice they've all been silent now that her new single is finally out.

except the faCT that Rise isn't even a single from her new album. Do you count Sledgehammer a legit rihanna single?

Why does it matter if its from an album? Was "It Will Rain" not a Bruno Mars single because it wasn't from an album of his? "Rise" was sent to radio, promoted on iTunes, has a video on her VEVO, and will have another more official video. It's a single.

"Sledgehammer" also has a video, was sent to some radio formats if I'm not mistaken, and is available for download. It's also a single.

Something isn't a single based on how well it does; it's a single if it's promoted.

[Deleted]

Billboard Hot 100 from 15, 10, 5 and 1 year ago:

1 year ago (8/8/2015)

1 1 Cheerleader - Omi (3rd week of 6)
2 2 Can't Feel My Face - The Weeknd
3 5 Watch Me - Silento
4 4 Bad Blood - Taylor Swift feat. Kendrick Lamar
5 3 See You Again - Wiz Khalifa feat. Charlie Puth
6 6 Trap Queen - Fetty Wap
7 87 My Way - Fetty Wap feat. Monty
8 8 Fight Song - Rachel Platten
9 7 Shut Up And Dance - Walk The Moon
10 9 Lean On - Major Lazer & DJ Snake feat. MØ

5 years ago (8/06/2011)

1 1 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & GoonRock (4th week of 6)
2 3 Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - Katy Perry
3 2 Give Me Everything - Pitbull feat. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer
4 5 Super Bass - Nicki Minaj
5 4 Rolling In The Deep - Adele
6 6 How To Love - Lil Wayne
7 9 Tonight Tonight - Hot Chelle Rae
8 7 The Edge Of Glory - Lady Gaga
9 8 Good Life - OneRepublic
10 17 Lighters - Bad Meets Evil feat. Bruno Mars


10 years ago (8/05/2006)

1 1 Promiscuous - Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland (5th week of 6)
2 2 Crazy - Gnarls Barkley
3 3 Me & U - Cassie
4 7 Buttons - Pussycat Dolls feat. Snoop Dogg
5 5 It's Goin' Down - Yung Joc
6 4 Hips Don't Lie - Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean
7 6 Unfaithful - Rihanna
8 8 Ain't No Other Man - Christina Aguilera
9 10 Over My Head (Cable Car) - The Fray
10 9 Snap Yo Fingers - Lil Jon feat. E-40 & Sean Paul Of The YoungBloodZ


15 years ago (8/05/2001)

1 7 Bootylicious - Destiny's Child (1st week of 2)
2 60 Loverboy - Mariah Carey feat. Cameo
3 2 Hit 'Em Up Style (Oops!) - Blu Cantrell
4 3 All Or Nothing - O-Town
5 1 U Remind Me - Usher
6 4 Let Me Blow Ya Mind - Eve feat. Gwen Stefani
7 6 Drops Of Jupiter (Tell Me) - Train
8 8 Hanging By A Moment - Lifehouse
9 5 Peaches & Cream - 112
10 14 Fallin' - Alicia Keys

[Au$tin]

Jul 24, 2016 14:52:40 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jul 24, 2016 13:16:05 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

except the faCT that Rise isn't even a single from her new album. Do you count Sledgehammer a legit rihanna single?

Why does it matter if its from an album? Was "It Will Rain" not a Bruno Mars single because it wasn't from an album of his? "Rise" was sent to radio, promoted on iTunes, has a video on her VEVO, and will have another more official video. It's a single.

"Sledgehammer" also has a video, was sent to some radio formats if I'm not mistaken, and is available for download. It's also a single.

Something isn't a single based on how well it does; it's a single if it's promoted.

There is a little difference here. Rise is an Olympic single. Forget the fact that it's not on any album, that doesn't matter. What does matter is Rise was created specifically for the Olympics, so it's sonically very different than anything that would typically be a lead Katy Perry single. No one is denying the fact that it's getting the full treatment, but there is a slight variance from predicting a regular sounding Katy Perry lead single versus a single that doesn't sound like your typical Katy Perry single.

Essentially, it's like the Lady Gaga single a few months back. Of course it didn't perform like a normal Gaga single, that's because it wasn't. It sounded very different from her regular discography.

[Parerastarr10]

Jul 24, 2016 16:39:44 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jul 24, 2016 14:52:40 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Why does it matter if its from an album? Was "It Will Rain" not a Bruno Mars single because it wasn't from an album of his? "Rise" was sent to radio, promoted on iTunes, has a video on her VEVO, and will have another more official video. It's a single.

"Sledgehammer" also has a video, was sent to some radio formats if I'm not mistaken, and is available for download. It's also a single.

Something isn't a single based on how well it does; it's a single if it's promoted.

There is a little difference here. Rise is an Olympic single. Forget the fact that it's not on any album, that doesn't matter. What does matter is Rise was created specifically for the Olympics, so it's sonically very different than anything that would typically be a lead Katy Perry single. No one is denying the fact that it's getting the full treatment, but there is a slight variance from predicting a regular sounding Katy Perry lead single versus a single that doesn't sound like your typical Katy Perry single.

Essentially, it's like the Lady Gaga single a few months back. Of course it didn't perform like a normal Gaga single, that's because it wasn't. It sounded very different from her regular discography.

It's a Katy Perry single. Her songs perform extremely well, and so, people had high expectations for the chart performance of the song. Following its release it hasn't broken every record known to man so some people are trying to minimize the songs importance in Katy's discography. They are saying nonsense things and as a result, they are being called out for it. Being asked to sing the Olympic theme song is a BIG deal! The song matters no matter what some may think.

[Au$tin]

Jul 24, 2016 18:58:39 GMT -5 Parerastarr10 said:

Jul 24, 2016 16:39:44 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

There is a little difference here. Rise is an Olympic single. Forget the fact that it's not on any album, that doesn't matter. What does matter is Rise was created specifically for the Olympics, so it's sonically very different than anything that would typically be a lead Katy Perry single. No one is denying the fact that it's getting the full treatment, but there is a slight variance from predicting a regular sounding Katy Perry lead single versus a single that doesn't sound like your typical Katy Perry single.

Essentially, it's like the Lady Gaga single a few months back. Of course it didn't perform like a normal Gaga single, that's because it wasn't. It sounded very different from her regular discography.

It's a Katy Perry single. Her songs perform extremely well, and so, people had high expectations for the chart performance of the song. Following its release it hasn't broken every record known to man so some people are trying to minimize the songs importance in Katy's discography. They are saying nonsense things and as a result, they are being called out for it. Being asked to sing the Olympic theme song is a BIG deal! The song matters no matter what some may think.

But when was the last time an Olympic single was a big hit? I mean, come on, anybody doing a song for the Olympics gives you inspirational cheesy lyrics with AC-ready production. I sense no nonsense here.

[surfy]

Jul 24, 2016 20:04:00 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jul 24, 2016 18:58:39 GMT -5 Parerastarr10 said:

It's a Katy Perry single. Her songs perform extremely well, and so, people had high expectations for the chart performance of the song. Following its release it hasn't broken every record known to man so some people are trying to minimize the songs importance in Katy's discography. They are saying nonsense things and as a result, they are being called out for it. Being asked to sing the Olympic theme song is a BIG deal! The song matters no matter what some may think.

But when was the last time an Olympic single was a big hit? I mean, come on, anybody doing a song for the Olympics gives you inspirational cheesy lyrics with AC-ready production. I sense no nonsense here.

If this was announced as her lead single, I wouldn't have been shocked. Olympics or no Olympics, our dear Katy is known for her cliche lyrics. (See: Firework and Roar)

They pushed for this to be a big hit, and the GP is not going to care if it is the Olympic theme or not.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 24, 2016 20:04:00 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jul 24, 2016 18:58:39 GMT -5 Parerastarr10 said:

It's a Katy Perry single. Her songs perform extremely well, and so, people had high expectations for the chart performance of the song. Following its release it hasn't broken every record known to man so some people are trying to minimize the songs importance in Katy's discography. They are saying nonsense things and as a result, they are being called out for it. Being asked to sing the Olympic theme song is a BIG deal! The song matters no matter what some may think.

But when was the last time an Olympic single was a big hit? I mean, come on, anybody doing a song for the Olympics gives you inspirational cheesy lyrics with AC-ready production. I sense no nonsense here.

The last summer Olympics propelled "Home" to becoming a genuine hit; it wasn't the Olympics theme, but it was the theme for the U.S. gymnastics team.

Whitney Houston's "One Moment In Time" was of course a big hit and was recorded for the 1988 Olympics. Is that not a Whitney single?

Who was even the last mainstream artist to record an Olympics theme?

[icefire9]

Jul 24, 2016 20:31:54 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jul 24, 2016 20:04:00 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

But when was the last time an Olympic single was a big hit? I mean, come on, anybody doing a song for the Olympics gives you inspirational cheesy lyrics with AC-ready production. I sense no nonsense here.

The last summer Olympics propelled "Home" to becoming a genuine hit; it wasn't the Olympics theme, but it was the theme for the U.S. gymnastics team.

Whitney Houston's "One Moment In Time" was of course a big hit and was recorded for the 1988 Olympics. Is that not a Whitney single?

Who was even the last mainstream artist to record an Olympics theme?

I don't know about Whitney's song, but the Olympics didn't do a thing to help Home's performance until the Olympics actually started. Its not fair to say 'well the Olympics boosted Home, why isn't it doing the same to Rise?' when we haven't even gotten to the Olympics yet.

Though if I remember correctly, Home actually did go top 10 before the Olympics (during its debut week). It was already a lead single and a minor hit in its own right when the Olympics latched onto it, not a song specifically meant to be an Olympic theme.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 24, 2016 20:44:20 GMT -5 icefire9 said:

Its not fair to say 'well the Olympics boosted Home, why isn't it doing the same to Rise?' when we haven't even gotten to the Olympics yet.

I might have missed it, but I don't think anyone has said that?

"Can't Stop the Feeling" being a one-off and not being from a new Justin album didn't hurt it.

Also "Rise" has been out just over a week. We don't even know how it will do in its run. All that was said was that it's a new single from Katy Perry (which it is) and it didn't debut at #1 (which it didn't).

[areyoureadytojump]

Pointer Sisters' Jump (For My Love)" wasn't written for the Olympics, but they used it to promote the 1984 games. It went to #3 for 2 weeks.

[truemusicreviews]

So what's the consensus on "Cheap Thrills"? Has it accumulated enough points to take the top?

[85la]

I'm just curious why there is so much talk about Katy's single not debuting at #1, when Britney's single, which IS officially the first single from her next album, will most certainly not debut at #1 either, which many people also said she had a good chance at doing so.

[Bhad Bill]

Jul 24, 2016 20:31:54 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jul 24, 2016 20:04:00 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

But when was the last time an Olympic single was a big hit? I mean, come on, anybody doing a song for the Olympics gives you inspirational cheesy lyrics with AC-ready production. I sense no nonsense here.

The last summer Olympics propelled "Home" to becoming a genuine hit; it wasn't the Olympics theme, but it was the theme for the U.S. gymnastics team.

Whitney Houston's "One Moment In Time" was of course a big hit and was recorded for the 1988 Olympics. Is that not a Whitney single?

Who was even the last mainstream artist to record an Olympics theme?

Don't forget Colbie Caillat's Olympic theme "Something Special", for the 2008 Beijing games, which debuted and peaked at #98 lol! My girl got one!

I honestly don't understand why we are having the Katy conversation, everyone in this forum knows how this works. Lead singles usually have the greatest chance to perform really well off the bat, for any artist. 

This is not Katy's lead single, and I believe that's one of the reasons the song is not doing as well in comparison to her three other lead singles. The other is that it is more AC based, it's not as pop as you would expect, as Austin said.

It just seems like a non issue. I have every faith that this will do moderately well, she's drop the lead single after, and it will be a monster smash.

[Mike is BAD]

I'd imagine Rise is like a bonus track on her next album, like Hotline Bling came 7 months before Views and HB ended up as a bonus track, the same type of thing can happen to Rise.

[BlueSwan]

Jul 25, 2016 0:20:22 GMT -5 85la said:

I'm just curious why there is so much talk about Katy's single not debuting at #1, when Britney's single, which IS officially the first single from her next album, will most certainly not debut at #1 either, which many people also said she had a good chance at doing so.

Britney is a has-been who still has a loyal internet following that will hype up everything she does beyond what is reasonable. Katy Perry has been imperial since 2008. Even if her last album only had two proper hits, those were both humungous, and it was probably widely expected that everything new from her would explode out of the gate.

I don't like the comparisons to Rihanna. Rihanna dropped her "bonus single" in the midst of an album campaign with TONS of Rihanna stuff already doing the rounds. Katy Perry has been absent from any chart action for quite a while. The comparisons to Justin Timberlake are far more appropriate (both songs are even written by Max Martin, who himself is almost a guarantee for a hit single).

The performance of Rise so far has definitely been a disappointment. It saddens me, because while I have never been a big Katy fan, I really like the song.

[Enigma.]

But Rise is just a leftover, it's so obvious. It's what Just Like Fire is to Pink which I don't consider as "first single" either

[jenglisbe]

Jul 25, 2016 6:14:34 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

But Rise is just a leftover, it's so obvious. It's what Just Like Fire is to Pink which I don't consider as "first single" either

But "JLF" is a single, and it has been a hit. In other words, it's possible for these artists to have hits with one-off singles.

[jayhawk1117]

Jul 25, 2016 0:20:22 GMT -5 85la said:

I'm just curious why there is so much talk about Katy's single not debuting at #1, when Britney's single, which IS officially the first single from her next album, will most certainly not debut at #1 either, which many people also said she had a good chance at doing so.

people actually thought that?