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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 30, 2016 14:50:46 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7557828/lady-gaga-scores-her-fourth-no-1-album-on-billboard-200-chart-joanneLady Gaga Scores Her Fourth No. 1 Album on Billboard 200 Chart With 'Joanne'10/30/2016 by Keith Caulfield Lady Gaga claims her fourth No. 1 on the Billboard 200 albums chart, as Joanne arrives in the pole position. The set earned 201,000 equivalent album units -- a better-than-expected start -- in the week ending Oct. 27, according to Nielsen Music. Joanne was released on Oct. 21 through Streamline/Interscope Records. The Billboard 200 chart ranks the most popular albums of the week in the U.S. based on multi-metric consumption, which includes traditional album sales, track equivalent albums (TEA) and streaming equivalent albums (SEA). The new Nov. 12-dated chart (where Joanne bows at No. 1) will be posted in full to Billboard’s websites on Tuesday, Nov. 1. Joanne follows Lady Gaga’s previous chart-toppers Cheek to Cheek (with Tony Bennett, in 2014), Artpop (2013) and Born This Way (2011). Joanne's bow of 201,000 units is larger than what industry forecasters estimated. On Oct. 25, sources had pegged the album to start with around 180,000 (and that was an upgrade from 140,000 a few days earlier). The album’s 201,000 launch is the fourth-largest debut of 2016, and the second-biggest for a woman. Ahead of it are Drake’s Views (1.04 million), Beyonce’s Lemonade (653,000) and Frank Ocean’s Blonde (276,000 units). In terms of traditional sales, Joanne sold 170,000 -- the seventh-largest bow of the year, and the second-biggest for a woman. The only larger starts were registered by Drake’s Views (852,000 copies sold), Beyonce’s Lemonade (485,000), Frank Ocean’s Blonde (232,000), David Bowie’s Blackstar (174,000), Radiohead’s A Moon Shaped Pool (173,000) and Blink-182’s California (172,000). Lady Gaga was in full-on promotion mode during the album’s debut week. She performed on NBC’s Saturday Night Live (Oct. 22), sat down for an interview with SiriusXM’s Howard Stern (Oct. 24), took part in James Corden’s popular “Carpool Karaoke” segment of his CBS show The Late Late Show (Oct. 25) and concluded her Bud Light-sponsored dive bar tour in Los Angeles on Oct. 27. Also notable: Gaga is the first woman with four No. 1 albums on the Billboard 200 in the 2010s. She passes Beyonce and Taylor Swift, each with three during the decade. Among all acts, Justin Bieber and Drake lead with six Billboard 200 No. 1's each since 2010, while One Direction and Kanye West each boast four.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 30, 2016 14:56:23 GMT -5
You beat me by a few seconds!
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 30, 2016 14:57:59 GMT -5
Yessss! 201k looks a lot nicer than 199k
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 30, 2016 15:07:44 GMT -5
Congrats for Gaga! but watchout Taylor is coming
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 30, 2016 15:20:46 GMT -5
Congrats for Gaga! but watchout Taylor is coming Is Taylor Swift releasing a greatest hits album to conclude her first decade at Big Machine?
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 30, 2016 15:27:39 GMT -5
Congrats for Gaga! but watchout Taylor is coming Is Taylor Swift releasing a greatest hits album to conclude her first decade at Big Machine? ?? she is on the way, 2016 would surprised but more surprising if she's not releasing album in 2017 at all. so sooner or later she will have it.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 30, 2016 15:30:21 GMT -5
Is Taylor Swift releasing a greatest hits album to conclude her first decade at Big Machine? ?? she is on the way, 2016 would surprised but more surprising if she's not releasing album in 2017 at all. so sooner or later she will have it. Taylor Swift signed to Big Machine in 2006. Her current contract is over.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 30, 2016 15:37:08 GMT -5
?? she is on the way, 2016 would surprised but more surprising if she's not releasing album in 2017 at all. so sooner or later she will have it. Taylor Swift signed to Big Machine in 2006. Her current contract is over. is that really matter? billboard still count it tho. Im seeing Taylor will always be big as an artist in this decade even without Big Machine sticking around anymore.
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Post by popbox on Oct 30, 2016 15:38:01 GMT -5
This was an absolutely incredible launch for the album all things considered. I'm wondering if she could have come close to half a mil if she had a huge smash as the lead single?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 30, 2016 16:31:20 GMT -5
Taylor Swift signed to Big Machine in 2006. Her current contract is over. is that really matter? billboard still count it tho. Im seeing Taylor will always be big as an artist in this decade even without Big Machine sticking around anymore. It's not about Billboard. Will Big Machine release a Taylor Swift GH album? If Taylor doesn't want to do it, she won't.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 30, 2016 16:50:03 GMT -5
is that really matter? billboard still count it tho. Im seeing Taylor will always be big as an artist in this decade even without Big Machine sticking around anymore. It's not about Billboard. Will Big Machine release a Taylor Swift GH album? If Taylor doesn't want to do it, she won't. The answer for this question is so clear so i thought in different ways. At this point, it is too soon to release a greatest hits album (but I also think it is great if she released her greatest "country" hits album) . What last happnd with artist release a GH with former genre while being so active on current genre?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 30, 2016 16:53:17 GMT -5
It's not about Billboard. Will Big Machine release a Taylor Swift GH album? If Taylor doesn't want to do it, she won't. The answer for this question is so clear so i thought in different ways. At this point, it is too soon to release a greatest hits album (but I also think it is great if she released her greatest "country" hits album) . What last happnd with artist release a GH with former genre while being so active on current genre? What? The label can release a GH if they want regardless of Taylor's input or current stature.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 30, 2016 17:15:39 GMT -5
The answer for this question is so clear so i thought in different ways. At this point, it is too soon to release a greatest hits album (but I also think it is great if she released her greatest "country" hits album) . What last happnd with artist release a GH with former genre while being so active on current genre? What? The label can release a GH if they want regardless of Taylor's input or current stature. That's great. But considering how big Taylor now and pretty sure will be hard negotiations for them to re-sign her, they may release one...
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 30, 2016 17:18:25 GMT -5
^Some artists have complete control over their album releases. Whitney Houston did. She wouldn't let Arista release "Love Whitney" in the USA in 2001.
Considering how much money Taylor has made Big Machine, she may have that power to nix/delay a GH album.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 30, 2016 18:01:24 GMT -5
2016 SPS Debuts
1. Drake Views 1.04 million 2. Beyonce Lemonade 653,000 3. Frank Ocean Blonde 276,000 4. Lady GaGa Joanne 201,000
2016 Album Sales Debuts
1. Drake Views 852,000 2. Beyonce Lemonade 485,000 3. Frank Ocean Blonde 232,000 4. David Bowie Blackstar 174,000 5. Radiohead A Moon Shaped Pool 173,000 6. Blink-182 California 172,000 7. Lady GaGa Joanne 170,000
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Oct 30, 2016 19:28:01 GMT -5
So proud of Gaga!
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Post by wavey. on Oct 30, 2016 23:25:33 GMT -5
2016 SPS Debuts1. Drake Views 1.04 million 2. Beyonce Lemonade 653,000 3. Frank Ocean Blonde 276,000 4. Lady GaGa Joanne 201,000 2016 Album Sales Debuts1. Drake Views 852,000 2. Beyonce Lemonade 485,000 3. Frank Ocean Blonde 232,000 4. David Bowie Blackstar 174,000 5. Radiohead A Moon Shaped Pool 173,000 6. Blink-182 California 172,000 7. Lady GaGa Joanne 170,000 Geez
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 31, 2016 1:16:49 GMT -5
Forgot Drake did so well in his opening. I don't know why I thought he only did about 600K in his first week (traditional sales).
I'm not shocked that Gaga was able to push pass the 200K (SPS), I knew Billboard would be a couple of thousands higher than Hits.
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Post by ILLUSION on Oct 31, 2016 3:49:48 GMT -5
Yeah Gaga!!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 31, 2016 9:41:26 GMT -5
The rest of the Top 10...
Seven Albums Debut in Top 10 of Billboard 200 Chart, Led by Lady Gaga, Michael Buble & Pentatonix 10/30/2016 by Keith Caulfield
The new Billboard 200 album chart’s top 10 is flush with new arrivals, as seven titles arrive in the region.
On the chart dated Nov. 12, the list is led by the debut of Lady Gaga’s Joanne at No. 1, scoring the pop diva her fourth chart-topper. The set earned 201,000 equivalent album units in the week ending Oct. 27, according to Nielsen Music. The set sold 170,000 in traditional album sales.
The Billboard 200 chart ranks the most popular albums of the week in the U.S. based on multi-metric consumption, which includes traditional album sales, track equivalent albums (TEA) and streaming equivalent albums (SEA). The new Nov. 12-dated chart will be posted in full to Billboard’s websites on Tuesday, Nov. 1.
At No. 2 on the new Billboard 200 is Michael Buble’s Nobody But Me, which bows with 91,000 units (85,000 in traditional album sales). It’s the seventh top 10-charting album for Buble, following To Be Loved (No. 1 in 2013), Christmas (No. 1, 2011), Hollywood: The Deluxe EP (No. 10, 2010), Crazy Love (No. 1, 2009), Call Me Irresponsible (No. 1, 2007) and It’s Time (No. 7, 2005).
Vocal group Pentatonix launches at No. 3 with A Pentatonix Christmas, earning 60,000 units (52,000 in traditional album sales). The set marks the sixth top 10 for the act and third holiday album to reach the list (following That’s Christmas to Me in 2014, which peaked at No. 2, and the PTXmas EP in 2013, which peaked at No. 7).
A Pentatonix Christmas also starts at No. 1 on the Holiday Albums chart, the second leader for the group on that tally, after That’s Christmas to Me.
Rock band Korn claims its lucky 13th top 10 album on the Billboard 200, as The Serenity of Suffering starts at No. 4 with 57,000 units (55,000 in pure album sales). The set also hits No. 1 on both the Top Rock Albums and Hard Rock Albums charts. Among rock bands, Korn’s top 10 count on the Billboard 200 is now equal to Led Zeppelin. The only rock bands with more top 10s are The Rolling Stones (with 36), The Beatles (32), Dave Matthews Band (15), Santana (14) and Van Halen (14).
As the top four on the new Billboard 200 are all debuts, it’s the first time we’ve had the entire top four populated by new entries since the Dec. 5, 2015-dated list. On that chart, Justin Bieber’s Purpose bowed at No. 1, followed by One Direction’s Made in the A.M., Logic’s The Incredible True Story and Lecrae’s Church in These Streets. That was also the last week where the top 10 had as many as seven new arrivals (there were eight debuts in the region that week).
Drake’s Views dips from No. 2 to No. 5 on the Billboard 200 with 38,000 units (down 4 percent). This is the first week Views has been outside the top four since its No. 1 debut 26 weeks ago.
Chris Tomlin’s Never Lose Sight starts at No. 6 with 32,000 units (30,000 in traditional album sales). It’s the fourth top 10 effort for the singer/songwriter, who last hit the region in 2014 with Love Ran Red (No. 8). He topped the list in 2013 with Burning Lights. The new album also launches at No. 1 on the Christian Albums chart, marking Tomlin’s seventh leader on the list.
Back on the Billboard 200, the Suicide Squad soundtrack falls 3-7 with 31,000 units (down 11 percent) while the Hamilton cast album is pushed down one rung to No. 8 with 30,000 units — though it’s up 30 percent. Hamilton posts a big gain following the premiere of the PBS documentary about the show, Hamilton’s America, on Oct. 21.
Trans-Siberian Orchestra’s The Ghosts of Christmas Eve debuts at No. 9 on the Billboard 200 with 27,000 units (nearly all from traditional album sales) and starts at No. 2 on both Top Rock Albums and Holiday Albums. On the latter list, it’s the fifth top 10 effort for the act, which has been releasing successful holiday music since 1996’s Christmas Eve and Other Stories. On the Billboard 200, The Ghosts of Christmas Eve gives the ensemble its fourth straight top 10 album, following Letters From the Labyrinth (No. 7 in 2015), Dreams of Fireflies (On a Christmas Night) (No. 9, 2012) and Night Castle (No. 5, 2009).
Rounding out the Billboard 200's top 10, singer/songwriter Leonard Cohen nabs his second top 10 with the start of You Want It Darker at No. 10 (25,000 units; 24,000 in traditional album sales). Despite a lengthy career, he first hit the top 10 in 2012 with Old Ideas, which debuted and peaked at No. 3.
Meanwhile, last week’s No. 1, Kings of Leon’s Walls, falls to No. 20 in its second week (18,000 units; down 77 percent). It’s the third album to drop from No. 1 straight out of the top 10 in its second week in 2016. Previously, Gwen Stefani’s This Is What the Truth Feels Like descended 1-17 on the April 16-dated list, and The 1975’s I Like It When You Sleep, For You Are So Beautiful Yet So Unaware of It collapsed 1-26 on March 16.
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Post by kingofpain on Oct 31, 2016 11:57:09 GMT -5
Yes Leonard cohen made the top 10' after all!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 31, 2016 12:21:06 GMT -5
Come through Gaga!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 31, 2016 19:39:58 GMT -5
Retailer Report: Top 200 Albums Region: Total U.S. Week Ending: 10/27/16
LADY GAGA|JOANNE ( 1) 170,000 BUBLE*MICHAEL|NOBODY BUT ME ( 2) 85,000 KORN|SERENITY OF SUFFERING ( 3) 54,000 PENTATONIX|A PENTATONIX CHRIST( 4) 51,000 TOMLIN*CHRIS|NEVER LOSE SIGHT ( 5) 30,000 TRANS-SIBERIAN |GHOSTS OF CHRI( 6) 26,000 COHEN*LEONARD|YOU WANT IT DARK( 7) 24,000 PRETTY RECKLESS|WHO YOU SELLIN( 8) 21,000 I PREVAIL|LIFELINES ( 9) 19,000 JIMMY EAT WORLD|INTEGRITY BLUE( 10) 17,000
HAMILTON / O.B.|HAMILTON / O.B( 11) 16,000 KINGS OF LEON|WALLS ( 12) 13,000 JONES*NORAH|DAY BREAKS ( 13) 12,000 GRANT*AMY|TENNESSEE CHRISTMAS ( 14) 11,000 STAPLETON*CHRIS|TRAVELLER ( 15) 10,000 PRESLEY*ELVIS|WONDER OF YOU: E( 16) 9,800 VARIOUS ARTIST|SUICIDE SQUAD: ( 17) 9,600 GREEN DAY|REVOLUTION RADIO ( 18) 9,500 JOE BUDDEN|RAGE & THE MACHINE ( 19) 9,500 KIDZ BOP KIDS|KIDZ BOP 33 ( 20) 9,200
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 1, 2016 6:24:05 GMT -5
Green Day's Revolution Radio has been a total disaster after the debut... now 10->41
Even Keith Urban's Ripcord is doing better and it's been on chart for 25 weeks
And what's with Kidz Bop suddenly underperforming so much?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 1, 2016 8:55:52 GMT -5
As Green Day is an act that doesn't benefit too much from TEA/streaming, a better gauge is Album Sales, where the album is at No. 18 after three weeks- for an act that's been recording for as long as GD has, that's actually not that bad.
The multi-metric chart may be an acceptable gauge of more current acts and how their albums are consumed, but it's not really a practical way to judge performance for all releases.
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Post by Gary on Nov 1, 2016 10:54:56 GMT -5
As Green Day is an act that doesn't benefit too much from TEA/streaming, a better gauge is Album Sales, where the album is at No. 18 after three weeks- for an act that's been recording for as long as GD has, that's actually not that bad. The multi-metric chart may be an acceptable gauge of more current acts and how their albums are consumed, but it's not really a practical way to judge performance for all releases. I get it,, you are not a fan of the BB200 (the weekly comments and the way you do the thread titles - LOL) Due to the streaming services, a growing number of people every year no longer buy albums, to the point where a sales-only measurement is no longer significant, especially for the top of the popularity chart.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Nov 1, 2016 11:44:03 GMT -5
Well, the veteran such as Green Day will be hard to getting new fans (that consume streaming than buying singles, CDs or vinyl) these days, besides trend that tend to pop.
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Post by Gary on Nov 1, 2016 12:03:19 GMT -5
#18 these days is 9600 copies sold, once upon a time, that would not be enough for the top 100.
It is not that there are fewer people listening to music, it is just that they are finding other ways to listen, which makes sales more and more of a non factor with each passing week
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Nov 1, 2016 12:11:39 GMT -5
It is not that there are fewer people listening to music, it is just that they are finding other ways to listen, which makes sales more and more of a non factor with each passing week Right, but I meant for getting new fans (where more than half of streaming user is young age) is also important for charting, im not sure their old fans use spotify, youtube etc to listen their musics.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 1, 2016 13:29:18 GMT -5
Yes- and as trends go, the longer an act has been around, the less they get streamed, the less their individual tracks get purchased. Just the way it goes. The multi-metric chart clearly benefits more current acts, outside of an act passing or some big event.
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