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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jun 22, 2017 13:40:49 GMT -5
Question for seasoned hosts: What do you do if someone submits an incomplete list? Do you ask them to finish it, throw it out, or include what they have sent? I'm not inclined to do the last option because it depressed the un-ranked songs. I have always assumed that in order to be considered an active, proper participatant in a rankdown, you have to rank all of the songs on the list. I know if I can't rank all of them properly, I just don't participate in that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 0:59:42 GMT -5
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Post by †ealsünset on Jun 25, 2017 8:21:27 GMT -5
UPDATE: My queue
30 Songs. 30 Years. A Hilary Duff Rankdown.
Submissions will be taken in August, number 1 reveal September 28- Hilary's 30th birthday. Why Not?
Billboard Hot 100 - Year End Chart 2008
I'm already preparing my images for this one, but I'd prefer not to take submissions until after the Hilary Rankdown is So Yesterday.
Love Songs Songs with love in the title. Number 1 announced February 14, 2018.
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Post by aerodynamite on Jun 25, 2017 15:09:34 GMT -5
Here's what I have in mind:
Flashback Top 40's The top 40 of a random Hot 100 chart from the past. I'd like to host a series of these. Depending on the level of success, I may expand the series to genre charts.
Aero's Top 40 of 2017 so far This will be my personal rankdown that's already in the queue.
My plan is to open submissions for the former and start revealing the songs for the latter soon.
The Hot 100 YE of 2000 and '90s Decade-End are TBD as of now.
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Post by Normi on Jun 25, 2017 15:12:00 GMT -5
Although, I've already said it, it's not on the queue but I want to do my Top 30-50 songs of all time as well at some point in the future probably after Rihanna's albums (so probably in mid-2018 ) Please just add my name on Personal Rankdowns :)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 15:12:17 GMT -5
'90s Decade-End are TBD as of now. Imma open 2000s decade one at start of July and make it due end of July, maybe 2 weeks of reveals, so you can put around Mid August for 90s decade one.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jun 25, 2017 15:51:51 GMT -5
My Queue
Paramore Rankdown
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Post by Harx on Jun 25, 2017 16:14:49 GMT -5
I've never hosted a rankdown before but I feel like I could take on something easy right now. My idea is to make the 2017 mid-year rankdown of all Hot 100 top 10 hits this year so far (until the end of June) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_top_10_singles_in_2017). The list is short and everybody is familiar with these songs. I would appreciate some tips and advices on how to do this. I also hope I didn't steal anybody's idea.
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Post by Normi on Jun 25, 2017 16:19:07 GMT -5
I've never hosted a rankdown before but I feel like I could take on something easy right now. My idea is to make the 2017 mid-year rankdown of all Hot 100 top 10 hits this year so far (until the end of June) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_top_10_singles_in_2017). The list is short and everybody is familiar with these songs. I would appreciate some tips and advices on how to do this. I also hope I didn't steal anybody's idea. I wanted to rank a Songs of the Summer 2017 rankdown (and likely still will) but @walker9 pointed out that all of the songs on that list will likely be on the YE rankdown as well and it would be bad to know how people feel about speicific songs. The idea is great though! I will still do it without giving away each individual ranking.
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Post by Harx on Jun 25, 2017 16:32:07 GMT -5
I wanted to rank a Songs of the Summer 2017 rankdown (and likely still will) but @walker9 pointed out that all of the songs on that list will likely be on the YE rankdown as well and it would be bad to know how people feel about speicific songs. The idea is great though! I will still do it without giving away each individual ranking. If participants wouldn't want to know how others feel about each song before the YE rankdown, not revealing personal ranks is an option. I guess you can always ask about it in a poll.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 16:32:23 GMT -5
After the Drake RD is done (it will be tomorrow) I'll open the Eminem RD and I might do a personal one after that.
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Post by Normi on Jun 25, 2017 16:33:20 GMT -5
I wanted to rank a Songs of the Summer 2017 rankdown (and likely still will) but @walker9 pointed out that all of the songs on that list will likely be on the YE rankdown as well and it would be bad to know how people feel about speicific songs. The idea is great though! I will still do it without giving away each individual ranking. If participants wouldn't want to know how others feel about each song before the YE rankdown, not revealing personal ranks is an option. Yep, that's what I'll be doing but I can still understand people disliking this as it would show how Pulse as a whole feels about certain songs Well, if you start this I will participate for sure!
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Post by Harx on Jun 25, 2017 16:35:15 GMT -5
If participants wouldn't want to know how others feel about each song before the YE rankdown, not revealing personal ranks is an option. Yep, that's what I'll be doing but I can still understand people disliking this as it would show how Pulse as a whole feels about certain songs Well, if you start this I will participate for sure! Obviously nobody is forced to participate so if someone really doesn't want to know anything, he can just avoid the thread. For others who can't wait for the YE rankdown it should be an interesting preview.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 25, 2017 22:54:01 GMT -5
We just finished the 2013 Alt rankdown, and I just created the thread for 2012 Alt.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 1:12:07 GMT -5
Now that it's about time for me to reveal my #2s rankdown, here are the future rankdowns I have planned: - Mariah is coming up next, semi-TBA deadline of mid-August. Thread - 80s and 90s r&b - I am probably going to turn this into a series of different 80s/90s rankdowns because there are so many ways to go about it. For now, the first one will be a New Jack Swing rankdown. Deadline TBA but I'll probably run this one concurrently with my Mariah rankdown. - I checked and did not see anyone claim this, so: I call dibs on a Halloween-themed rankdown! I am not going to start the thread this early, but I have a tentative list in mind for this already so born please put this one in the queue! I'm going to set a hard deadline of October 8 so I can be sure to have everything counted up and revealed just in time for Halloween. - someone requested that I do a #3 songs rankdown similar to my current #2 songs rankdown with the 'free picks' format, so that will come eventually, after the Halloween rankdown probably. I don't have plans to make a series out of it with #4/5/6/etc. peaking songs so I won't be mad if someone else wants to snatch that one from me. Mid September/Octoberish: This is more of an idea, so i'm curious on feedback. My idea was that everybody would send in two of their all time favourite songs, it can be from any artist/year/genre, just as long as it has a Spotify or YouTube audio it will work! Anyways after that, I will reveal everybody's picks, and you will then listen to all of the songs, then rank them like you would in a normal rankdown. Only thing is, you wouldn't include your own songs on your list, because they would obviously be your #1 and #2. I would then reveal the results, and the song that gets the least points wins! It would be a good opportunity to explore new music, and to learn about each others favourites songs. Would you guys try this out? Let me know. I love this idea! It's kind of like a rankdown/madness tournament mashup which is very cool. The only thing I would suggest is that you tell people to submit a few 'alternate' picks in case their two most favorite songs are already taken by someone else. I also like castleoblivion26's idea of asking people to pick one favorite song from childhood and one favorite recent song to encourage a diverse list.
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Post by Harx on Jun 26, 2017 2:10:51 GMT -5
Could someone explain me how to calculate the results? You know, what is up with the standard deviation, things like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 3:04:13 GMT -5
Could someone explain me how to calculate the results? You know, what is up with the standard deviation, things like that. The specific rank method you use can be whatever you like. The most common methods are: - Inverse point system. E.g., if you have a rankdown with 40 songs in it a person's #1 song will get 40 points, their #2 song will get 39 points, etc. Songs with more points rank higher. - A straight points system where #1 gets one point, #2 gets two points, etc. Here, songs with the least number of points rank highest. This is the easiest way to calculate IMO, as it requires nothing more than you entering in each person's ranks an adding up the numbers together, no inversion required. - average rank - add up each submission's rank for a song and divide by the # of submissions you have. Songs with a higher average rank (where the highest possible average a song can have is 1) rank higher. - median rank - arrange the ranks for a song from highest rank to lowest rank, then find the number in the middle. (If you have an even number of ranks, take the two middle numbers and find the average between them). Songs with a higher median rank (where the highest possible median any song can have is again, 1) rank higher. - Standard deviation is never used as a rank calculation, but is often used as a tiebreaker when songs have the same # of points or average. If you use Excel to keep track of your submissions, you can usually just plug in formulas and let Excel do all the math for you. Standard deviation is STDEV, averaging is MEAN, median is MEDIAN addition is SUM, etc. Check out the last page of Leo's Katy Perry rankdown for an explanation on how to do closeness rankings. That's the only one for which there isn't a built-in Excel formula. I think I recall Austin using a combined formula in the Kelly rankdown that gave weight to multiple factors, so you might want to read through that thread to see if that is something you'd be interested in doing.
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Post by Harx on Jun 26, 2017 4:27:41 GMT -5
Could someone explain me how to calculate the results? You know, what is up with the standard deviation, things like that. The specific rank method you use can be whatever you like. The most common methods are: - Inverse point system. E.g., if you have a rankdown with 40 songs in it a person's #1 song will get 40 points, their #2 song will get 39 points, etc. Songs with more points rank higher. - A straight points system where #1 gets one point, #2 gets two points, etc. Here, songs with the least number of points rank highest. This is the easiest way to calculate IMO, as it requires nothing more than you entering in each person's ranks an adding up the numbers together, no inversion required. - average rank - add up each submission's rank for a song and divide by the # of submissions you have. Songs with a higher average rank (where the highest possible average a song can have is 1) rank higher. - median rank - arrange the ranks for a song from highest rank to lowest rank, then find the number in the middle. (If you have an even number of ranks, take the two middle numbers and find the average between them). Songs with a higher median rank (where the highest possible median any song can have is again, 1) rank higher. - Standard deviation is never used as a rank calculation, but is often used as a tiebreaker when songs have the same # of points or average. If you use Excel to keep track of your submissions, you can usually just plug in formulas and let Excel do all the math for you. Standard deviation is STDEV, averaging is MEAN, median is MEDIAN addition is SUM, etc. Check out the last page of Leo's Katy Perry rankdown for an explanation on how to do closeness rankings. That's the only one for which there isn't a built-in Excel formula. I think I recall Austin using a combined formula in the Kelly rankdown that gave weight to multiple factors, so you might want to read through that thread to see if that is something you'd be interested in doing. Thanks! The straight points system is the one I've been thinking about and I'll probably go with this one, but at least I get the other ones now too.
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Post by YotamTS on Jun 26, 2017 13:50:02 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 26, 2017 13:53:42 GMT -5
Put me down for a Ke$ha/Kesha discography rankdown! I've decided it's gonna be my next one after my Shuffle Rankdown.
It's gonna be both albums, her EP, and any other commercially released material from her.
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Post by Leaf on Jun 26, 2017 15:47:32 GMT -5
I have mentioned it but guess I never really officially requested it but I'd like to be put down for an Ellie Goulding rankdown.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 16:33:04 GMT -5
I have mentioned it but guess I never really officially requested it but I'd like to be put down for an Ellie Goulding rankdown. I might participate in that. I know and love a lot of her songs. But there other RDs I'm doin atm so idk.
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Post by born on Jun 26, 2017 16:48:31 GMT -5
I have mentioned it but guess I never really officially requested it but I'd like to be put down for an Ellie Goulding rankdown. Make sure "My Blood" & "Figure 8" both get a spot in the final tracklist and I'm all yours. (I'd participate anyways though)
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 26, 2017 19:46:05 GMT -5
I have mentioned it but guess I never really officially requested it but I'd like to be put down for an Ellie Goulding rankdown. Make sure "My Blood" & "Figure 8" both get a spot in the final tracklist and I'm all yours. (I'd participate anyways though) 'Figure 8' was a single so it'd be there anyway.
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Post by Leaf on Jun 26, 2017 20:53:57 GMT -5
Yeah. I'd love to include My Blood but that'd mean selectively including certain album tracks, which I don't really want to do. As much as I'd like to rank all songs from her 3 albums, I think that's around 70 songs so that may be too much for some potential participants.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 27, 2017 22:45:00 GMT -5
I'm aware that I have a pending Calvin Harris rankdown to do, but I want to keep this on hold for a month or two at the very least, despite I know which songs I'm going to include, even the ones from his upcoming new album.
Anyway, the reason of this is because I want to do first another rankdown, which is from Dua Lipa. I guess this could be a little riskier because she's not well-known yet, but it could be a great way to introduce her in case someone who hasn't listened to her stuff before wants to do this.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 29, 2017 7:10:05 GMT -5
Would anyone want to rank the year-end Canadian Rock* chart from last year?
* - Combination of the Alternative and Active Rock formats.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 1, 2017 1:35:32 GMT -5
I'd like to reserve a Dierks Bentley rankdown for the country genre since pop is flooded with rankdowns right now and I don't think I can start my Miley Cyrus rankdown anytime soon at the rate it's going. However, if anyone feels like "I HAVE to host the Dierks Bentley rankdown" or feel more qualified to do it than me, please tell me and I'd be glad to hand over the hosting to you (that is, if I get on the queue list first though).
Also, do people just start rankdowns anytime they want? I was thinking of starting Miley Cyrus after the Selena Gomez rankdown is done with the submission process, but I wasn't sure if I needed permission to see if it's OK to start one when there were many rankdowns going on at the same time or if it's more self-regulatory.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2017 1:36:39 GMT -5
I'd like to reserve a Dierks Bentley rankdown for the country genre since pop is flooded with rankdowns right now and I don't think I can start my Miley Cyrus rankdown anytime soon at the rate it's going. However, if anyone feels like "I HAVE to host the Dierks Bentley rankdown" or feel more qualified to do it than me, please tell me and I'd be glad to hand over the hosting to you (that is, if I get on the queue list first though). Also, do people just start rankdowns anytime they want? I was thinking of starting Miley Cyrus after the Selena Gomez rankdown is done with the submission process, but I wasn't sure if I needed permission to see if it's OK to start one when there were many rankdowns going on at the same time or if it's more self-regulatory. I agree that theres too many Rankdowns right now but I myself said that Ill be making my new rankdown tomorrow a lot, so Ill be adding on to the mess with new Rankdowns, but meh... We can handle it.
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 1, 2017 2:14:21 GMT -5
I'd like to reserve a Dierks Bentley rankdown for the country genre since pop is flooded with rankdowns right now and I don't think I can start my Miley Cyrus rankdown anytime soon at the rate it's going. However, if anyone feels like "I HAVE to host the Dierks Bentley rankdown" or feel more qualified to do it than me, please tell me and I'd be glad to hand over the hosting to you (that is, if I get on the queue list first though). Also, do people just start rankdowns anytime they want? I was thinking of starting Miley Cyrus after the Selena Gomez rankdown is done with the submission process, but I wasn't sure if I needed permission to see if it's OK to start one when there were many rankdowns going on at the same time or if it's more self-regulatory. Basically as long as you are smart about starting them, you can do it whenever you want. It sounds like you are already being considerate by waiting until another artist one is done before starting your artist one! The goal is just to make sure you don't make it due at the same time as a bunch of other rankdowns, or start it when there are currently a lot of other ones in the submission phase. If you look in the future and see a week when there is nothing due or maybe just one or two small ones, by all means create a rankdown and make it due in that relatively light week! Just don't do something like put a 100-song rankdown in the same week as another 100-song rankdown, or put even a small one in a week that already has like 5 small rankdowns due. Try to space it out in a way that makes sense. That's the only real organizational pattern we have right now :)
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