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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 4, 2017 20:29:41 GMT -5
Just realized Paramore's excellent After Laughter album and its iconic song "Fake Happy" were snubbed. #flopGrammys Iconic to whom?
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Post by forg on Dec 4, 2017 23:19:50 GMT -5
OJ Simpson topic is quite an awards magnate lately: Emmys (American Crime Story) and Oscar (OJ: Made in America). Will a song about him win a Grammy too?
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Post by upsidedown on Dec 5, 2017 7:22:59 GMT -5
Just realized Paramore's excellent After Laughter album and its iconic song "Fake Happy" were snubbed. #flopGrammys Iconic to whom? dead
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Post by Choco on Dec 6, 2017 13:59:50 GMT -5
Paramore's album would have been a lock for a couple nods if it hadn't been such a colossal underperformer chart-wise. Hard Times sounded like a hit to me and did nothing, so the album faded away pretty quickly.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Dec 6, 2017 14:15:27 GMT -5
Yeah, agreed. Paramore had one of the best pop albums of the year, easily. But I don't think it ever built up enough hype or buzz (despite it's positive reviews) to overcome it's lackluster chart performance
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hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=309695Tuesday, December 12, 2017 ASK THE GRAMMY WHISPERERby Paul Grein We took your questions—well, we imagined your questions—and put them to the Grammy Whisperer. Here are his responses. I noticed that no women were nominated for Record of the Year this year. That hadn't happened in a long time, right? I'd say 35 years counts as a long time. This is the first time that women have been completely shut out of Record of the Year since 1982. (By that I mean there weren't even any female featured artists or female group members among the nominees.) It's only the fifth time in Grammy history that no women have appeared in the Record of the Year finals. Why do you think there wasn't much controversy about that? People were more focused on Album of the Year, where three African American artists (Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar and Childish Gambino) were nominated. Was that a record? No. African American artists have had three or more Album of the Year nominations five times. Once, four of the five nominated albums were by black artists. That was 2004, when Ray Charles' Genius Loves Company beat Alicia Keys' The Diary of Alicia Keys, Usher's Confessions, Kanye West's The College Dropout and Green Day's American Idiot. African American artists had three Album of the Year nominations in 1984, 1987 and 1990—all before the inception of the Nominations Review Committee, by the way. Jay-Z has more nominations than anyone else this year. So is 4:44 the album to beat for Album of the Year? It has a real shot, but the nominations leader isn't the automatic front-runner for Album of the Year. Last year, Beyoncé was the nominations leader, but she still lost to Adele. Two years ago, Kendrick Lamar was the noms leader, but he lost to Taylor Swift. But Jay-Z has already made Grammy history this year. He's the first rapper to receive four Record of the Year nominations. He was previously nominated as a featured artist on Beyoncé's "Crazy in Love" and Rihanna's "Umbrella" and as a co-lead artist with Alicia Keys on "Empire State of Mind." This year, he's nominated on his own for the first time with "The Story of O.J." You and your factoids. Do you have any nuggets about Bruno Mars? He's the first artist to amass five Record of the Year noms in the 2010s. What's more, he and Beyoncé are the only artists to receive five Record of the Year noms since 2000. "Despacito" by Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee (featuring Justin Bieber) is this year's only work to be nominated for both Record and Song of the Year. When was the last time there was so little overlap between those two categories? It had been 12 years. In 2005, Mariah Carey's "We Belong Together" was the only title that was nominated for both Record and Song of the Year. Did it win either one? No. But I think "Despacito" just may win both. Why do you think there was so little overlap in those two categories this year? The committee was trying to share the wealth. Is "Despacito" the first three-way collaboration to be nominated for Record of the Year? No. There had been a few. There had even been a four-way collabo (Dionne & Friends' "That's What Friends Are For") and a collaboration of dozens of artists (USA for Africa's "We Are the World.") How surprised were you that Ed Sheeran was passed over in the top three categories this year? I was shocked. I thought he was a leading contender in all three categories. I know Grammy sensibilities—to a large extent, I share them—and I would be willing to bet that rank-and-file voters had him in the top five in all three of those categories. Is there anything that can be done going forward to give the will of the voters more protection? I think the Grammys should adopt a rule that the Nominations Review Committee must keep the top three vote-getters in each category they review. Right now, the committee can select anything from among the top 20 vote-getters. They can toss out the entire top five that the voters came up with. Under my proposal, the committee would have to accept those entries that the voters put at or near the top of their ballots. Their only option would be to replace No. 4 and No. 5—entries that just barely made the top five anyway. That's an interesting approach. It's a compromise between going back to direct popular vote (which the Grammys had prior to 1995) and maintaining the status quo, where the choices of rank-and-voters can be overturned by a secret, hand-picked committee of Grammy insiders. Do you think your idea will go anywhere? Who knows? But I think they should always explore various options to make the awards structure better and fairer. Who benefited from the Grammys' new rule that songwriters who contributed significantly to an album are eligible for an Album of the Year nom? Surprisingly, just one person wound up with a nom because of that rule who wasn't already nominated—James Fauntleroy, who wrote for Bruno Mars' 24K Magic. The other songwriters who were cited among the Album of the Year nominees were nominated in that category anyway as artists and/or producers. They are Jay-Z and No I.D. for Jay-Z's album; Kendrick Lamar, DJ Dahi, Sounwave and Anthony Tiffith for Lamar's album; Jack Antonoff and Lorde for Lorde's album; and Christopher Brody Brown, Philip Lawrence and Mars for Mars' album. Who lost out because of the Grammys' new rule that featured artists are eligible for Album of the Year noms only if they contribute significantly to an album—not just one or two tracks, as in the past? Beyoncé, Frank Ocean, Damian Marley and Gloria Carter for Jay-Z's album; U2, Rihanna and Zacari for Lamar's album. Gloria Carter? Jay-Z's mother? So this rule change cost Jay-Z's mom a Grammy nomination? Yes. That's a shame. I doubt the Awards and Nominations committee saw that coming when they made the rule change. Will Post Malone get another shot at Best New Artist next year? He just may. The Grammys gave Alessia Cara another shot this year, after she had a top five hit two years ago with "Here," so they can probably find a way to let Post Malone in, despite his success this year. He wasn't nominated in any categories this year, which preserves his eligibility for Best New Artist next year. But Cardi B and Logic are out for future Best New Artist consideration. They each had two noms this year. So are Kaleo and Midland. They each had one nom this year. Will country make a comeback in the Album of the Year category next year? Probably. The Grammys haven't shut out country in this marquee category two years running since 2011-12. Will Taylor Swift win Album of the Year again next year? It's way too early to speculate. Oh come on, that never stopped you before. That's true. And the album has been well received. Let me just say this: If she does win, she would become the first woman to win three times (just as she was the first woman to win twice as a lead artist). The only other artists who are three-time winners are Frank Sinatra, Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon. Well, now you've got me wondering: Would Taylor become the youngest artist to win Album of the Year three times? No. Swift will be 29 at the time of the Grammys in 2019. Wonder was just 26 when he won for the third time with Songs in the Key of Life. You felt bad about Ed Sheeran being snubbed this year, didn't you? Yeah. I don't like to see artists get screwed. There's no way you can tell me "Shape of You" didn't deserve a Record of the Year nomination. It was not only one of the year's biggest hits, but was a convincing stylistic shift for an artist who made his name with ballads. Could they give him a make-up next year by putting "Perfect" up for Record of the Year? Sure. The remix has Beyoncé on it and they love Beyoncé. That would be her sixth Record of the Year nomination—more than any woman in history. Wait, couldn't Taylor be nominated in that category next year too? Yes, but that would be her fifth Record of the Year nom. Beyoncé already has five noms in that category. She and Barbra Streisand are currently tied for the lead among women with five each. You really are nerdy, aren't you? Oh yeah.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 12, 2017 18:50:10 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=309683Tuesday, December 12, 2017 THE GRAMMY WHISPERER PICKS THE BIG WINNERS The Grammy Nominations Review Committee threw us a curve this year. Just about everybody expected a showdown between Kendrick Lamar and Ed Sheeran in the top three categories. In many ways, it would have been a replay of last year’s epic showdown between Beyoncé and Adele. Seemingly concerned that Sheeran might sweep all three awards—as Adele did last year—the committee simply didn’t nominate the affable Brit in any of the top three categories. Well, that’s one way to solve the problem. My fellow Grammy nerd Lenny Beer coined a word for it—Sheeran was “Timberlaked.” That’s a reference to 2013, when Justin Timberlake had the year’s best-selling album, yet was passed over for noms in the Big Three categories. I think Sheeran’s snub is even more egregious than Timberlake’s was. The Grammys slighted him—“shafted him” would not be too strong a phrase—in an attempt to solve their own image problem. (I’m referring, of course, to the Grammys’ long history of favoring mainstream pop artists at the expense of contemporary R&B and hip-hop artists—and, before that, rock artists—in the top categories.) The Nominations Review Committee also surprised us by nominating two hip-hop artists—Lamar and Jay-Z—for both Album and Record of the Year. Will that double the chances of one of them winning—or reduce them by splitting the vote of hip-hop fans? And will the presence of Childish Gambino in those same two categories further split the vote of fans of R&B and hip-hop? Let’s take a look at the Big Four categories and Best Pop Vocal Album. ALBUM OF THE YEARThis is the fourth time that two rap albums have been nominated for Album of the Year in the same year. This previously happened in 2002 (Eminem’s The Eminem Show and Nelly’s Nellyville both lost to Norah Jones’ Come Away With Me), 2003 (OutKast’s Speakerboxxx/The Love Below beat Missy Elliott’s Under Construction) and 2013 (Lamar’s good kid, m.A.A.d. city and Macklemore & Ryan Lewis’ The Heist both lost to Daft Punk’s Random Access Memories). So a rap album can still win even when two rap albums are nominated, but it has happened only once. And the year it did, OutKast was clearly the chief rap draw. The duo had one more nom than Elliott that year, and it was a big one—“Hey Ya!” was nominated for Record of the Year, while Elliott’s “Work It” was not. This year, Lamar’s DAMN. was thought to be the rap album to beat. But Jay-Z has one more overall nomination (nine vs. eight; Jay-Z is up for Song of the Year and Lamar isn’t.) Does the academy have enough voting members who are receptive to rap for a rap album to win when there are two strong, evenly matched rap nominees? That is this year’s big question. If just one of these albums was in the finals, I think it would win. But with two, I’m not so sure. It’s a muddled picture. Neither album is the clear rap favorite. So what else is in the mix? Bruno Mars’ 24K Magic is a potent entry. Mars and Jay-Z are the only artists who are nominated in each of the Big Three categories this year. 24K Magic isn’t exactly a progressive choice, but the Nominations Review Committee apparently decided he’s hipper than Sheeran. Lorde’s Melodrama is the only pop album in the race (at least according to Grammy classifications; they put Mars’ album in the R&B category), the only album by a female artist and, for those keeping track of such things, the only album by a white artist. It was a critically lauded album, but it didn’t really sustain commercially after debuting at #1. Remarkably, this is the album’s only nomination. Rank-and-file voters didn’t nominate it for Best Pop Vocal Album. This is the first time that an album that was passed over for a nom in its “genre album” category wound up with an Album of the Year nom since Sara Bareilles’ The Blessed Unrest was gifted with an Album of the Year nom four years ago. If Melodrama winds up winning Album of the Year, it would be the first album to win the big one that was passed over for a nom in its “genre album” category. Childish Gambino’s “Awaken, My Love!” rounds out the category. Frankly, I don’t see a route to victory for this album. Progressive voters would rather see a hip-hop album win (for only the third time in Grammy history). Traditional voters will be deciding between Lorde and Mars. My prediction: Bruno Mars.RECORD OF THE YEARNo hip-hop record has ever won in this category. And with two nominees—Lamar’s “HUMBLE.” and Jay-Z’s “The Story of O.J.”—splitting the rap vote, I don’t think this will be the year for that breakthrough. Childish Gambino’s “Redbone” will surely win for Best Traditional R&B Performance. This is the first time that a nominee in that category has also received a Record of the Year nom. This sleeper smash surprised Lenny and me by landing a nom here—we both love it, but thought it would be squeezed out. But I don’t see it winning. Bruno Mars’ “24K Magic” has a chance. It’s a good record, though it pales next to “Uptown Funk!,” the 2015 winner in this category by Mark Ronson featuring Mars. “Despacito” by Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee featuring Justin Bieber was both a bigger hit and a more important record than “24K Magic.” It paved the way for other pop/Latin crossover hits. (And it’s about time they enter the Top 40 mix.) “Despacito” is a genre-bridging song that has artists of different races and countries of origin working together. That will speak to a lot of Grammy voters, especially in the Donald Trump era. Fonsi and Daddy Yankee, who are both natives of Puerto Rico, would be the first musicians of Latin heritage to win in this category since Santana won 18 years ago for “Smooth” (featuring Rob Thomas). My prediction: Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee featuring Justin Bieber.SONG OF THE YEARJay-Z’s “4:44” and Julia Michaels’ “Issues” are both long-shots. Jay-Z co-wrote “4:44” with producer Dion Wilson, a.k.a. No I.D. Michaels co-wrote “Issues” with Benny Blanco, Justin Tranter and the members of the Stargate production team—Mikkel Eriksen and Tor Hermansen. Bruno Mars’ “That’s What I Like” is a serious contender, though I think it’s a little light to win Song of the Year. There are eight writers on this song. (Apparently, it’s not easy to come up with a song this seemingly simple.) Mars co-wrote the ditty with Christopher Brody Brown, James Fauntleroy, Philip
Lawrence and the members of The Stereotypes production team—Ray Charles McCullough II, Jeremy Reeves, Ray Romulus and
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product it is used to market. I think it comes down to “Despacito” and “1-800-273-8255.” Luis Fonsi, Daddy Yankee and Justin Bieber co-wrote “Despacito” with Jason “Poo Bear” Boyd, Erika Ender and Marty James Garton. Logic, Alessia Cara and Khalid co-wrote “1-800” with producer Arjun Ivatury, a.k.a. 6ix. “Despacito” would be the first (mostly) foreign-language song to win in this category since Domenico Modugno’s Italian-language smash “Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu (Volare)” at the very first Grammys in 1958. (The Fine Print: The Beatles’ “Michelle,” the 1966 winner, has a few lines in French, but it’s mostly in English.) “1-800-273-8255” would be the first message song to win in this category since “Change the World” 21 years ago. (Other message songs that have won here over the years are “We Are the World,” “That’s What Friends Are For” and “Streets of Philadelphia”). It’s close between these two, so let me take another look at the nominations list. (When in doubt, go the source.) Rank-and-file voters put “Despacito” in the finals for Best Pop Duo/Group Performance. “1-800” was passed over for a nom in that category. Granted, that’s a performance category, while this is a songwriting category, but it does suggest the relative strength of each entry. My prediction: “Despacito.”P.S. Did you notice that four of the five nominated songs have four or more credited writers? That would seem to be a trend. BEST NEW ARTISTLil Uzi Vert is probably the least likely to win. He wasn’t nominated for Best Rap Album—though admittedly the competition in that category was fierce. Julia Michaels has a Song of the Year nom, which is a real achievement for a new artist. But she has yet to follow “Issues” with another hit. A win here is unlikely. My first thought when I saw the nominations list was that Alessia Cara would win. She has had three Top 10 hits this year. She’s a classy, mainstream pop artist, precisely the kind of artist that the Grammys have long favored in this category. Ironically, that could pose a problem for her this year, with the Grammys’ obvious effort to be hipper. Let’s take a close look at the other two nominees. SZA and Khalid each received five noms, one more than Cara. Two of the noms for both Cara and Khalid are for their work on Logic’s “1-800.” By contrast, all five of SZA’s noms are for her own album and tracks from it. SZA has received tremendous critical acclaim. Last year, the critically acclaimed Chance the Rapper won here, beating the more commercially successful The Chainsmokers and Maren Morris. My prediction: SZA. BEST POP VOCAL ALBUMThere are six nominees in this category—there must have been a tie—so let’s start the process of elimination. Coldplay’s Kaleidoscope EP (it’s just a five-song EP) and Lana Del Rey’s Lust for Life (she was passed over for a nom for Best Pop Solo Performance) seem the least likely to win. Lady Gaga’s Joanne and Kesha’s Rainbow are both strong contenders. Gaga is a past winner in this category. Kesha will have a lot of support, especially from women, because of what “Praying” represents. Imagine Dragons’ Evolve spawned two giant hits. But is it in the right category? Is this a pop album or a rock album? I think that voters will make up for Ed Sheeran’s egregious snubs (there, I said it again) in the Big Three categories by voting for ÷ here. My prediction: Ed Sheeran.
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 12, 2017 18:50:59 GMT -5
"I know Grammy sensibilities—to a large extent, I share them"
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 12, 2017 19:16:15 GMT -5
He/they imagine someone would write this? "You and your factoids." He is trash, and I stopped reading there. How dare he call himself "The Grammy Whisperer" when he does so terribly at predictions?!?!
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Post by Caviar on Dec 12, 2017 19:41:08 GMT -5
*takes notes*
I cannot see "Decpic" winning anything.
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Post by shayonce on Dec 13, 2017 1:54:33 GMT -5
it could tho. it's biggest song of the year that got big exposure for latin song+ justin. the fact that it got into top 5 most voted song on pop duo meaning there're nice supports. it will get 100% latin block support.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 13, 2017 9:11:15 GMT -5
How much does he get paid for this nonsense?
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Post by Choco on Dec 13, 2017 14:46:52 GMT -5
He's so full of himself. That said, I don't hate his winning picks. Bruno for AOTY makes sense with Kendrick splitting the vote with Jay. Lorde and Childish feel very "happy to be nominated" (which is sad because Lorde would get my vote). SZA is a strong pick for BNA, although I could see Alessia getting it too. My biggest issue is giving both ROTY and SOTY to Despacito. I'm thinking a split will happen with Despacito getting ROTY to acknowledge it's cultural impact, while something else gets SOTY (1-800 would be my pick but as he said, it didn't crack the pop collab category so support might not be that strong) or TWIL.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 14, 2017 14:14:53 GMT -5
SZA and Despacito for ROTY the only ones I agree about: SOTY: That's What I Like Album: DAMN Pop Vocal Album: Joanne
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 14, 2017 15:38:17 GMT -5
I will say I find this year one of the hardest to predict.
Best New Artist - There is no clear runaway commercial success, or even pop culture impact, to be the favorite or co-favorites (a la Mariah Carey, Kanye West/Maroon 5, Carrie Underwood, Sam Smith, etc). Alessia Cara comes closest, but she still isn't on the same level as some past nominees. Solo females have done well in this category, but this year there are three of them to split the vote.
Song of the Year - "Despacito" is somehow the only song that is both here and in ROTY. You'd think that makes it a favorite, but about 10 years ago "We Belong Together" was the only song in both categories, and it lost both. If they've decided this is Bruno's year, then he wins. If not, I see this as being fairly wide open.
Record of the Year - Like with SOTY, it depends if they are going for a Bruno sweep or not. I could see this being where Jay-Z gets a big win as he's free from Kendrick, and in a way it would be a recognition of Lemonade, too.
Album of the Year - This is the one that most feels like Bruno's to lose. Kendrick and Jay-Z will likely split votes, and Bruno had multiple hits off his album and has never won Album, so it looks set to be his time. Lorde could spoil as the only female nominee, the only Pop nominee, and the main nominee that would appeal to rock voters (plus this is literally the only way voters can recognize her album).
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Post by magik on Dec 14, 2017 20:11:08 GMT -5
I will say I find this year one of the hardest to predict. Best New Artist - There is no clear runaway commercial success, or even pop culture impact, to be the favorite or co-favorites (a la Mariah Carey, Kanye West/Maroon 5, Carrie Underwood, Sam Smith, etc). Alessia Cara comes closest, but she still isn't on the same level as some past nominees. Solo females have done well in this category, but this year there are three of them to split the vote. Song of the Year - "Despacito" is somehow the only song that is both here and in ROTY. You'd think that makes it a favorite, but about 10 years ago "We Belong Together" was the only song in both categories, and it lost both. If they've decided this is Bruno's year, then he wins. If not, I see this as being fairly wide open. Record of the Year - Like with SOTY, it depends if they are going for a Bruno sweep or not. I could see this being where Jay-Z gets a big win as he's free from Kendrick, and in a way it would be a recognition of Lemonade, too. Album of the Year - This is the one that most feels like Bruno's to lose. Kendrick and Jay-Z will likely split votes, and Bruno had multiple hits off his album and has never won Album, so it looks set to be his time. Lorde could spoil as the only female nominee, the only Pop nominee, and the main nominee that would appeal to rock voters (plus this is literally the only way voters can recognize her album). Jay-Z is not free of Kendrick Lamar in ROTY, though. You must have that confused with SOTY.
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 14, 2017 21:33:36 GMT -5
Album of the Year - This is the one that most feels like Bruno's to lose. Kendrick and Jay-Z will likely split votes, and Bruno had multiple hits off his album and has never won Album, so it looks set to be his time. Lorde could spoil as the only female nominee, the only Pop nominee, and the main nominee that would appeal to rock voters (plus this is literally the only way voters can recognize her album). Lorde's album was submitted in for Pop Album though, not Rock. The fact that there's not album from the Pop or Rock fields benefits Bruno the most imo, since he can draw from both, with the clinical recreation of an older sound appealing to the Rock contingent, which is likely the oldest group.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 14, 2017 21:54:23 GMT -5
I will say I find this year one of the hardest to predict. Best New Artist - There is no clear runaway commercial success, or even pop culture impact, to be the favorite or co-favorites (a la Mariah Carey, Kanye West/Maroon 5, Carrie Underwood, Sam Smith, etc). Alessia Cara comes closest, but she still isn't on the same level as some past nominees. Solo females have done well in this category, but this year there are three of them to split the vote. Song of the Year - "Despacito" is somehow the only song that is both here and in ROTY. You'd think that makes it a favorite, but about 10 years ago "We Belong Together" was the only song in both categories, and it lost both. If they've decided this is Bruno's year, then he wins. If not, I see this as being fairly wide open. Record of the Year - Like with SOTY, it depends if they are going for a Bruno sweep or not. I could see this being where Jay-Z gets a big win as he's free from Kendrick, and in a way it would be a recognition of Lemonade, too. Album of the Year - This is the one that most feels like Bruno's to lose. Kendrick and Jay-Z will likely split votes, and Bruno had multiple hits off his album and has never won Album, so it looks set to be his time. Lorde could spoil as the only female nominee, the only Pop nominee, and the main nominee that would appeal to rock voters (plus this is literally the only way voters can recognize her album). Jay-Z is not free of Kendrick Lamar in ROTY, though. You must have that confused with SOTY. Yes, I meant to say those things about SOTY.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 14, 2017 21:55:50 GMT -5
Album of the Year - This is the one that most feels like Bruno's to lose. Kendrick and Jay-Z will likely split votes, and Bruno had multiple hits off his album and has never won Album, so it looks set to be his time. Lorde could spoil as the only female nominee, the only Pop nominee, and the main nominee that would appeal to rock voters (plus this is literally the only way voters can recognize her album). Lorde's album was submitted in for Pop Album though, not Rock. The fact that there's not album from the Pop or Rock fields benefits Bruno the most imo, since he can draw from both, with the clinical recreation of an older sound appealing to the Rock contingent, which is likely the oldest group. I wasn't talking about where it was submitted, I was talking about which voters the album would appeal to. I think her music on the album actually fits an alt/rock sound to an extent, certainly more than anyone else in that category.
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Post by shayonce on Dec 15, 2017 4:55:40 GMT -5
she will get some alternative voters. that's all. overall bruno probably gets more rock voters than her. her music is trendy, current music with beats, less traditional sense. she won't get that much diverse voters outside her genre. she didn't even get much votes in pop.. that pretty much says all about her positions.
Bruno is the one who can appeal to everyone with traditional/older sounds and also big positive name. and ha strong chance on both SOTY/ROTY too. looks like it's bruno vs despacito , also issues in soty since it has some big names and beinf more of ac style song.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 15, 2017 8:49:09 GMT -5
I agree Bruno will get a wider range of votes, which is why I predicted him to win.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 9:24:10 GMT -5
Bruno's album would seem more "worthy" to me if it had more of an overall impact. Having two huge radio singles is definitely impactful, and the album is solid, I just don't feel like it was as impactful as an album in the zeitgeist as, say, Kendrick's was this year. Not to say I don't think Bruno has a good chance of winning - it's just my personal take on it.
Lord knows, it's not always the big impactful album that wins. No pun intended. But for real... Beck.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 18, 2017 13:51:09 GMT -5
GRAMMYs 2018 Nominees album tracklisting: 2018 GRAMMY Nominees Album Track List
1. BRUNO MARS "24K Magic" Record Of The Year Album Of The Year
2. KELLY CLARKSON "Love So Soft" Best Pop Solo Performance
3. LUIS FONSI & DADDY YANKEE FEAT. JUSTIN BIEBER "Despacito" (Remix) Record Of The Year Song Of The Year Best Pop Duo/Group Performance
4. KENDRICK LAMAR "HUMBLE." Record Of The Year Album Of The Year
5. LORDE "Green Light" Album Of The Year
6. CHILDISH GAMBINO "Redbone" Record Of The Year Album Of The Year
7. JAY-Z "The Story Of O.J." Record Of The Year Album Of The Year
8. ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA "Stay" Best Pop Duo/Group Performance
9. LADY GAGA "Million Reasons" Best Pop Solo Performance
10. IMAGINE DRAGONS "Thunder" Best Pop Duo/Group Performance
11. PORTUGAL. THE MAN "Feel It Still" Best Pop Duo/Group Performance
12. THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY "Something Just Like This" Best Pop Duo/Group Performance
13. P!NK "What About Us" Best Pop Solo Performance
14. LOGIC FEAT. ALESSIA CARA & KHALID "1-800-273-8255" Song Of The Year
15. JULIA MICHAELS "Issues" Song Of The Year
16. KESHA "Praying" Best Pop Solo Performance
17. CHRIS STAPLETON "Broken Halos" Best Country Album
18. LITTLE BIG TOWN "Better Man" Best Country Album
19. THOMAS RHETT FEAT. MAREN MORRIS "Craving You" Best Country Album
20. LADY ANTEBELLUM "You Look Good" Best Country Album
21. KENNY CHESNEY "All The Pretty Girls" Best Country Album
—— -No Ed -No SZA
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Post by magik on Dec 18, 2017 15:42:12 GMT -5
SZA is most likely not on there because BNA is not showcased either unless the nominee appears in another category that's showcased.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 20:04:08 GMT -5
I seriously want to know whose cornflakes Ed pissed in. They included literally every pop solo and pop duo/group nominee except him. It's clearly an issue with the 'main' committee but it definitely feels like they are trying to drive home a point, and I'm starting to wonder if this is also indicative of how the voters will treat him as well. He got the noms but it's not looking good for a win.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 18, 2017 20:21:56 GMT -5
I seriously want to know whose cornflakes Ed pissed in. They included literally every pop solo and pop duo/group nominee except him. It's clearly an issue with the 'main' committee but it definitely feels like they are trying to drive home a point, and I'm starting to wonder if this is also indicative of how the voters will treat him as well. He got the noms but it's not looking good for a win. Could Ed and his label have declined being included as a reaction to his not getting any major noms?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 20:43:54 GMT -5
I seriously want to know whose cornflakes Ed pissed in. They included literally every pop solo and pop duo/group nominee except him. It's clearly an issue with the 'main' committee but it definitely feels like they are trying to drive home a point, and I'm starting to wonder if this is also indicative of how the voters will treat him as well. He got the noms but it's not looking good for a win. Could Ed and his label have declined being included as a reaction to his not getting any major noms? Atlantic has four pop-nominated acts besides Ed (Bruno, Kelly, Coldplay, and Portugal the Man) who all are on the compilation. If Atlantic wanted to be petty they would have withheld ALL of those acts - but they did the opposite, securing the first two tracklist spots (I love Kelly but seeing her get such prime position is so damn random lol). Now, it's possible Ed chose to be that salty on his own, but I don't get the feeling that is the issue either. Something about this just feels very off.
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Post by magik on Dec 19, 2017 0:28:16 GMT -5
Could Ed and his label have declined being included as a reaction to his not getting any major noms? Atlantic has four pop-nominated acts besides Ed (Bruno, Kelly, Coldplay, and Portugal the Man) who all are on the compilation. If Atlantic wanted to be petty they would have withheld ALL of those acts - but they did the opposite, securing the first two tracklist spots (I love Kelly but seeing her get such prime position is so damn random lol). Now, it's possible Ed chose to be that salty on his own, but I don't get the feeling that is the issue either. Something about this just feels very off. If it was some type of vendetta against Ed, why would the Grammys go out of their way to make it obviously political? Anyway, this is not indicative of any wins or losses. I'm sure there are plenty examples of this. Voting is still going on, and Ed has "Perfect" to keep buzz going until December 21st, the last day of voting.
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