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Post by schnetzka on Oct 21, 2017 13:15:24 GMT -5
I would love for her to have a featured guest. She's never released a song on her CD with a featured guest. She had Colbie Caillat but I don't believe she was initally credited and Ed Sheeran was on the remix version of Everything Has Changed. Would love to see what her and Ed would come up with Ed was on the original version of Everything Has Changed. There was no remix version.
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Post by tryexp on Oct 21, 2017 13:16:09 GMT -5
I would love for her to have a featured guest. She's never released a song on her CD with a featured guest. She had Colbie Caillat but I don't believe she was initally credited and Ed Sheeran was on the remix version of Everything Has Changed. Would love to see what her and Ed would come up with Ed Sheeran is on the album version of Everything Has Changed and he is credited for it:
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Post by deepston on Oct 21, 2017 13:18:45 GMT -5
I would love for her to have a featured guest. She's never released a song on her CD with a featured guest. She had Colbie Caillat but I don't believe she was initally credited and Ed Sheeran was on the remix version of Everything Has Changed. Would love to see what her and Ed would come up with Ed Sheeran is on the album version of Everything Has Changed and he is credited for it: Awwww what a beautiful image, Red was so aesthetic!
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Post by born on Oct 21, 2017 14:08:08 GMT -5
Apparently the track featuring Ed and Future is called End Game and it's on the first half of the album.
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Post by tryexp on Oct 21, 2017 14:10:48 GMT -5
Supposed tracklist... Take it with a grain of salt after all, Timeless says hi:
1.…Ready For It? 2.A Second Glance 3.Blind For Love 4.This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things 5.Dress 6.Look What You Made Me Do 7.Delicate 8.Gorgeous 9.Getaway Car 10.Guilty 11.Rip Off The Page 12.Reputation 13.New Year’s Eve 14.End Game (feat. Future & Ed Sheeran) 15. Beneath
Rip the page would fit with the leaked UPS clip
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Post by born on Oct 21, 2017 14:14:17 GMT -5
I thought it was confirmed that "A Second Glance" and "Rip Off The Page" weren't actual tracks.
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Post by adamalterlago on Oct 21, 2017 15:00:21 GMT -5
It's very rare that one of the first few official single releases from an album (mostly talking pop albums) are that far down in the tracklist. Of course, I could be wrong but just my theory. Does that really matter anymore this day? Christ, just making a general statement. I clearly stated I could be wrong. Lol.
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Post by deepston on Oct 22, 2017 19:06:26 GMT -5
I'm just gonna leave this image I saw on Taylor's reddit here LOL
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Post by Bhad Bill on Oct 22, 2017 19:22:24 GMT -5
I would love for her to have a featured guest. She's never released a song on her CD with a featured guest. She had Colbie Caillat but I don't believe she was initally credited and Ed Sheeran was on the remix version of Everything Has Changed. Would love to see what her and Ed would come up with Colbie was credited, she even won a Grammy with Taylor for Taylor's Album of the Year for Fearless win. Ed was not featured as a remix, but appears on the original Red album. Also on the same album is The Last Time, featuring Gary Lightbody from Snow Patrol. All three are favorites of mine.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 22, 2017 19:58:55 GMT -5
I'm just gonna leave this image I saw on Taylor's reddit here LOL Ugh. This petty side of her is entirely unbecoming. I still remember the stories of her being devestated after her loss with Red in the AOTY category. She comes off as incredibly entitled, superficial, and bratty. First of all, you are only "deserving" of a grammy if you win one. Add to the fact that you had already taken home the prize once (a feat very few can say they've accomplished) at that stage and you wanna throw a fit because your every release doesn't snag top prize? Red wasn't even an incredibly strong release (cohesively or quality-wise). It's the music that keeps me fanning overall, cause her personality as of late (between stories like that and her petty back catalog release timed against Katy) leave my eyes in the back of my skull.
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Post by matty005 on Oct 22, 2017 20:01:09 GMT -5
I'm just gonna leave this image I saw on Taylor's reddit here LOL Ugh. This petty side of her is entirely unbecoming. I still remember the stories of her being devestated after her loss with Red in the AOTY category. She comes off as incredibly entitled, superficial, and bratty. First of all, you are only "deserving" of a grammy if you win one. Add to the fact that you had already taken home the prize once (a feat very few can say they've accomplished) at that stage and you wanna throw a fit because your every release doesn't snag top prize? Red wasn't even an incredibly strong release (cohesively or quality-wise). It's the music that keeps me fanning overall, cause her personality as of late (between stories like that and her petty back catalog release timed against Katy) leave my eyes in the back of my skull. This was on her sub reddit. Taylor had nothing to do with it.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 22, 2017 20:02:07 GMT -5
Is there no press for this release at all? I get that she's taken hits over the last year and a half, but it's still a jarring about face in pushing her work. Every album after her debut was guaranteed a huge opening, but that never stopped her.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 22, 2017 20:03:46 GMT -5
This was on her sub reddit. Taylor had nothing to do with it. Well, that's a small positive.
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Post by deepston on Oct 22, 2017 20:03:56 GMT -5
Is there no press for this release at all? I get that she's taken hits over the last year and a half, but it's still a jarring about face in pushing her work. Every album after her debut was guaranteed a huge opening, but that never stopped her. "There will be no further explanation, only reputation" That's her motto for this era. It seems she wants to ride off her previous success this time around. Not the smartest decision business wise or for the fans but what can we do...
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Post by deepston on Oct 22, 2017 20:05:57 GMT -5
I'm just gonna leave this image I saw on Taylor's reddit here LOL Ugh. This petty side of her is entirely unbecoming. I still remember the stories of her being devestated after her loss with Red in the AOTY category. She comes off as incredibly entitled, superficial, and bratty. First of all, you are only "deserving" of a grammy if you win one. Add to the fact that you had already taken home the prize once (a feat very few can say they've accomplished) at that stage and you wanna throw a fit because your every release doesn't snag top prize? Red wasn't even an incredibly strong release (cohesively or quality-wise). It's the music that keeps me fanning overall, cause her personality as of late (between stories like that and her petty back catalog release timed against Katy) leave my eyes in the back of my skull. She had nothing to do with this, some dude wanted to tattoo this, she can't stop him and I'm sure she (and everybody with a brain) would try to stop him lol But now seriously I love her personality, her cats and Red deserved AOTY.
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Post by dwhite725 on Oct 23, 2017 1:34:56 GMT -5
Is there no press for this release at all? I get that she's taken hits over the last year and a half, but it's still a jarring about face in pushing her work. Every album after her debut was guaranteed a huge opening, but that never stopped her. "There will be no further explanation, only reputation" That's her motto for this era. It seems she wants to ride off her previous success this time around. Not the smartest decision business wise or for the fans but what can we do... I think she wants to take the Beyoncé route and do as little promo as possible. Understandable bc she has outsold Bey on their last three albums and has had more hot 100 success. So I get why she would take this route, but I don't think it's the same and might hurt her. I think the thing her and her team has not taken into account is Beyoncé has always been a bit mysterious. Beyoncé never talked about her personal like, not that Taylor has(other than in song), but B was not a serial dater either. She's been with Jay since 2000 at least but it was never truly confirmed til they married. There's some sort of mystique to B that Taylor doesn't have. Both of them have portrayed Miss Goody Goody. At this point, Beyoncé has the Miss Goody Goody title. ETA taylor built her career on appearances, at that point she was a country artist, she transitioned to pop slowly, but she ended up alienating her initial audience. I hope her team realizes that. Pop Taylor started before 1989 but then it was full on. She probably had some country fan support with 1989, but she Might not now. I won't be surprised either way if she gets another million opening week. I doubt she'll have the physical sales she has had previously
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Post by born on Oct 23, 2017 9:05:03 GMT -5
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Post by MilesW1998 on Oct 23, 2017 9:08:00 GMT -5
So... is Ready For It the next single or what? Come on Taylor, can't you or your record label actually tell us something about the next single, enough of the shady business going on here.
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Post by fullonrainstorm on Oct 23, 2017 9:21:02 GMT -5
I'm just gonna leave this image I saw on Taylor's reddit here LOL Ugh. This petty side of her is entirely unbecoming. I still remember the stories of her being devestated after her loss with Red in the AOTY category. She comes off as incredibly entitled, superficial, and bratty. First of all, you are only "deserving" of a grammy if you win one. Add to the fact that you had already taken home the prize once (a feat very few can say they've accomplished) at that stage and you wanna throw a fit because your every release doesn't snag top prize? Red wasn't even an incredibly strong release (cohesively or quality-wise). It's the music that keeps me fanning overall, cause her personality as of late (between stories like that and her petty back catalog release timed against Katy) leave my eyes in the back of my skull. From the way you are jumping at any opportunity to think the worst of her, you might as well own up to the fact that you're no longer a fan. (And mistakenly in this case I want to add.)
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 23, 2017 9:27:34 GMT -5
From the way you are jumping at any opportunity to think the worst of her, you might as well own up to the fact that you're no longer a fan. Oh that is rich. lol I am not working off of assumptions here. Her little breakdown post AOTY loss is well known. I have always been a fan of Taylor for the music, first and foremost. I can be a fan and still acknowledge if she exhibits questionable, less than becoming behavior.
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Post by adamalterlago on Oct 23, 2017 9:50:11 GMT -5
I literally just died. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bal9WulHSAK Crazy. If it's not the second single, they sure put a lot of money into the video. Not the direction I had in mind for this song but look forward to it!
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Post by alestevens on Oct 23, 2017 10:58:33 GMT -5
From the way you are jumping at any opportunity to think the worst of her, you might as well own up to the fact that you're no longer a fan. Oh that is rich. lol I am not working off of assumptions here. Her little breakdown post AOTY loss is well known. I have always been a fan of Taylor for the music, first and foremost. I can be a fan and still acknowledge if she exhibits questionable, less than becoming behavior. Yes, it is well documented and she pretty much explained why she had that meltdown, which is because everyone kept coming to her telling her she was going to win and then she thought she had it for a second and didnt. She then said she can't think "they're all wrong, they're all voting wrong" so she took her cues and fixed on 1989 what she figured was Red's problem. I see nothing wrong with that, it's not like she was mad because she thought Red should have won instead!
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Post by fullonrainstorm on Oct 23, 2017 11:15:29 GMT -5
From the way you are jumping at any opportunity to think the worst of her, you might as well own up to the fact that you're no longer a fan. Oh that is rich. lol I am not working off of assumptions here. Her little breakdown post AOTY loss is well known. I have always been a fan of Taylor for the music, first and foremost. I can be a fan and still acknowledge if she exhibits questionable, less than becoming behavior. Doesn't change the fact that in this case, you were wrong to assume that Taylor had anything to do with that tattoo.
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Post by deepston on Oct 23, 2017 11:19:39 GMT -5
I get why she had a breakdown after Red though. Imagine you were working for 2 years and all those 2 years lead up to that single moment you can get the recognition you think you deserve. She didn't sit and cry like a loser though. She stood up and proved the Grammys they should have given her AOTY for Red by making one of the best pop albums of this decade. Sometimes you need to fail a few times to really start to shine.
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Post by wjr15 on Oct 23, 2017 11:28:27 GMT -5
Imagine you were working for 2 years and all those 2 years lead up to that single moment you can get the recognition you think you deserve. But that can be said about any artist who puts years into an album and doesn't win AOTY. That is even more so for artists who put years into an album and it goes nowhere. Taylor should've been happy to just be nominated and have a successful album.
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Post by deepston on Oct 23, 2017 11:32:39 GMT -5
Imagine you were working for 2 years and all those 2 years lead up to that single moment you can get the recognition you think you deserve. But that can be said about any artist who puts years into an album and doesn't win AOTY. That is even more so for artists who put years into an album and it goes nowhere. Taylor should've been happy to just be nominated and have a successful album. I guess you're kinda right. After the success of Red she had high expectations, can you blame her? Eh... I think she was being self-critical as apposed to narcissistic.
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Post by austin on Oct 23, 2017 11:39:23 GMT -5
All aboard the Mess Express. Everything about this album launch has been uncharacteristically sloppy. I get she’s rolling with some weird idea about just using her “reputation” to launch the record but usually she announces stuff and everyone understands her rationale. Now we get a video for a previously released promo song that we are supposed to assume is now a “single” one week after a promo track everyone thought was the new single came out. Mess.
If another surprise release promo song comes out next week I’m going to lose it.
Get it together.
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Post by deepston on Oct 23, 2017 11:44:58 GMT -5
So because everybody assumed Gorgeous was the single this is a mess? Oh well... lol
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Post by austin on Oct 23, 2017 11:59:55 GMT -5
So because everybody assumed Gorgeous was the single this is a mess? Oh well... lol I’m a huge taylor fan and even met her at Loft 89 but there is very little chance this launch is going smoothly in her teams eyes. Lead single was waaaaay too polarizing, the promo song took airplay from it, payola gets it to the top (which I have no issue with), another underwhelming song is released with no clarification on if it’s single or promo and now a video for the stalling first promo song is out. All while she’s given zero direction to the fans or anyone with what’s going on. She’s my favorite artist but this launch is a total disaster.
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Post by deepston on Oct 23, 2017 12:02:24 GMT -5
So because everybody assumed Gorgeous was the single this is a mess? Oh well... lol I’m a huge taylor fan and even met her at Loft 89 but there is very little chance this launch is going smoothly in her teams eyes. Lead single was waaaaay too polarizing, the promo song took airplay from it, payola gets it to the top (which I have no issue with), another underwhelming song is released with no clarification on if it’s single or promo and now a video for the stalling first promo song is out. All while she’s given zero direction to the fans or anyone with what’s going on. She’s my favorite artist but this launch is a total disaster. Just because she's being mysterious about how she's launching this era it doesn't this is a disaster. You're overthinking, this might be a bit messy because RFI existed waaaaay too soon but everything's fine so far.
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