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Post by tryexp on Oct 23, 2017 12:10:22 GMT -5
So because everybody assumed Gorgeous was the single this is a mess? Oh well... lol I’m a huge taylor fan and even met her at Loft 89 but there is very little chance this launch is going smoothly in her teams eyes. Lead single was waaaaay too polarizing, the promo song took airplay from it, payola gets it to the top (which I have no issue with), another underwhelming song is released with no clarification on if it’s single or promo and now a video for the stalling first promo song is out. All while she’s given zero direction to the fans or anyone with what’s going on. She’s my favorite artist but this launch is a total disaster. I agree! You might not categorize this as a disaster if this was any other artist. But Taylor has always been the queen of calculated and well thought of release strategies and this feels like the plan keeps changing and they are not sure what to do and how to deal with the hiccups as they appear. Hopefully once the fans can talk about the secret sessions we will know if this was planned as a promo release to turn to single, if they tried to adapt or if Taylor never even mentioned that.
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Post by deepston on Oct 23, 2017 12:11:19 GMT -5
I’m a huge taylor fan and even met her at Loft 89 but there is very little chance this launch is going smoothly in her teams eyes. Lead single was waaaaay too polarizing, the promo song took airplay from it, payola gets it to the top (which I have no issue with), another underwhelming song is released with no clarification on if it’s single or promo and now a video for the stalling first promo song is out. All while she’s given zero direction to the fans or anyone with what’s going on. She’s my favorite artist but this launch is a total disaster. I agree! You might not categorize this as a disaster if this was any other artist. But Taylor has always been the queen of calculated and well thought of release strategies and this feels like the plan keeps changing and they are not sure what to do and how to deal with the hiccups as they appear. Hopefully once the fans can talk about the secret sessions we will know if this was planned as a promo release to turn to single, if they tried to adapt or if Taylor never even mentioned that. Just look at the mv teaser. Do you really think that was a last hour mv rush?
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Post by SHOOTER on Oct 23, 2017 12:12:55 GMT -5
My pre-morning coffee two cents:
I think the mysterious approach worked to an extent for Beyoncé's last two albums because, aside from her stopping the world and making history with her surprise release, the music was obviously personal and there was enough context provided for the album's overarching theme (i.e. her husband's infidelity, the fallout and the aftermath). Plus there was a theme to both albums and it was a pretty sensitive topic so if she didn't wanna talk about it, fine.
Granted, we haven't heard the full album, but in Taylor's case, LWYMMD obviously had specific targets but RFI and Gorgeous are both just playful, flirty pop songs with no direct correlation to LWYMMD and not all that different from her past releases so it just seems odd (and calculating, which is par for her course) that she doesn't want to engage her fans and the record buying public by talking about her new music. At the least, I'd think she'd just be very particular about whom she interviews with and make sure she is in total control of directing the interview's narrative.
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Post by Heart Shaped Box on Oct 23, 2017 12:14:30 GMT -5
I’m not really a Taylor fan, but I’m interested to see just how much slayage her sales will do. She’s going to be the most successful of the current pop releases (Pink, Kelly Clarkson, Sam Smith).
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 23, 2017 12:51:23 GMT -5
I get why she had a breakdown after Red though. Imagine you were working for 2 years and all those 2 years lead up to that single moment you can get the recognition you think you deserve. She didn't sit and cry like a loser though. She stood up and proved the Grammys they should have given her AOTY for Red by making one of the best pop albums of this decade. Sometimes you need to fail a few times to really start to shine. Pretty much every artist works for a long period of time on their album/s. Very few win AOTY even once, though.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 23, 2017 12:56:02 GMT -5
I’m a huge taylor fan and even met her at Loft 89 but there is very little chance this launch is going smoothly in her teams eyes. Lead single was waaaaay too polarizing, the promo song took airplay from it, payola gets it to the top (which I have no issue with), another underwhelming song is released with no clarification on if it’s single or promo and now a video for the stalling first promo song is out. All while she’s given zero direction to the fans or anyone with what’s going on. She’s my favorite artist but this launch is a total disaster. Just because she's being mysterious about how she's launching this era it doesn't this is a disaster. You're overthinking, this might be a bit messy because RFI existed waaaaay too soon but everything's fine so far. We can agree or disagree that the rollout for the album is going as planned (personally I don't think it is), but can we at least agree it's damaging her standing a bit regardless? "LWYMMD" certainly hasn't had the same impact as her past couple of lead singles, and "RFI" is no "I Knew You Were Trouble" or "Blank Space." People are certainly confused, and in general she has lost some footing with the more general audience.
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Post by nightshade on Oct 23, 2017 13:43:56 GMT -5
If she doesn't hit 1 mil first week out and RFI doesn't come close to matching its previous peak then it can be said the rollout damaged the beginning of the era. I don't see how either of the previously mentioned aren't going to happen. The video looks to be another knockout and I'm sure the promo lined up for Nov. 10th will all but guarantee the 1 mil.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 23, 2017 14:17:30 GMT -5
Oh that is rich. lol I am not working off of assumptions here. Her little breakdown post AOTY loss is well known. I have always been a fan of Taylor for the music, first and foremost. I can be a fan and still acknowledge if she exhibits questionable, less than becoming behavior. Doesn't change the fact that in this case, you were wrong to assume that Taylor had anything to do wcith that tattoo. Uh, ok, and? lol It doesn't change my original point at all.
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Post by DJ General on Oct 23, 2017 14:27:44 GMT -5
I would love for her to have a featured guest. She's never released a song on her CD with a featured guest. She had Colbie Caillat but I don't believe she was initally credited and Ed Sheeran was on the remix version of Everything Has Changed. Would love to see what her and Ed would come up with Ed was on the original version of Everything Has Changed. There was no remix version. My bad, I forgot. But there was a remix version. They added him to sing more vocals for the single release.
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Post by DJ General on Oct 23, 2017 14:31:02 GMT -5
I would love for her to have a featured guest. She's never released a song on her CD with a featured guest. She had Colbie Caillat but I don't believe she was initally credited and Ed Sheeran was on the remix version of Everything Has Changed. Would love to see what her and Ed would come up with Colbie was credited, she even won a Grammy with Taylor for Taylor's Album of the Year for Fearless win. Ed was not featured as a remix, but appears on the original Red album. Also on the same album is The Last Time, featuring Gary Lightbody from Snow Patrol. All three are favorites of mine. I forgot about the Snow Patrol But Colbie was hardly a collaboration. Their vocals were really blended. And Ed was only 2 lines on the original album version. Ed was featured more on the remix. I want her to do a full fledged feature - I don't even remember the Gary song though atm. She underused Colbie and Ed haha
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Post by kcdawg13 on Oct 23, 2017 15:48:27 GMT -5
Colbie was credited, she even won a Grammy with Taylor for Taylor's Album of the Year for Fearless win. Ed was not featured as a remix, but appears on the original Red album. Also on the same album is The Last Time, featuring Gary Lightbody from Snow Patrol. All three are favorites of mine. I forgot about the Snow Patrol But Colbie was hardly a collaboration. Their vocals were really blended. And Ed was only 2 lines on the original album version. Ed was featured more on the remix. I want her to do a full fledged feature - I don't even remember the Gary song though atm. She underused Colbie and Ed haha What about Kendrick? He was about 70 percent of Bad Blood.
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Post by schnetzka on Oct 23, 2017 15:56:37 GMT -5
Ed was on the original version of Everything Has Changed. There was no remix version. My bad, I forgot. But there was a remix version. They added him to sing more vocals for the single release. I listened to the original and the single version back-to-back and the only difference is Ed speaking in the beginning.
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Post by DJ General on Oct 23, 2017 15:56:51 GMT -5
I forgot about the Snow Patrol But Colbie was hardly a collaboration. Their vocals were really blended. And Ed was only 2 lines on the original album version. Ed was featured more on the remix. I want her to do a full fledged feature - I don't even remember the Gary song though atm. She underused Colbie and Ed haha What about Kendrick? He was about 70 percent of Bad Blood. I guess. But that wasn’t the initial version released haha
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Post by DJ General on Oct 23, 2017 15:57:26 GMT -5
My bad, I forgot. But there was a remix version. They added him to sing more vocals for the single release. I listened to the original and the single version back-to-back and the only difference is Ed speaking in the beginning. Uhhhh no? Lol Ed sings the entire verse in the single mix. Taylor sings the second half in the album mix
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Post by born on Oct 23, 2017 15:57:49 GMT -5
My bad, I forgot. But there was a remix version. They added him to sing more vocals for the single release. I listened to the original and the single version back-to-back and the only difference is Ed speaking in the beginning. There is a remix version with heavier drums or something. Ed sings the entire second verse there. You can find that on iTunes. EDIT: ColdCoffee was faster than me lol
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Post by schnetzka on Oct 23, 2017 16:06:26 GMT -5
I listened to the original and the single version back-to-back and the only difference is Ed speaking in the beginning. Uhhhh no? Lol Ed sings the entire verse in the single mix. Taylor sings the second half in the album mix Sorry, my bad. I was going off of the music video.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 24, 2017 2:24:58 GMT -5
Jack Antonoff has already worked on two masterpieces released this year (Melodrama, Masseduction) so really interesting if this will be third or just fall flat
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Post by Troublemaker on Oct 24, 2017 6:43:15 GMT -5
Jack Antonoff has already worked on two masterpieces released this year (Melodrama, Masseduction) so really interesting if this will be third or just fall flat The problem with the albums you mentioned is the singles haven’t done well
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Post by AP on Oct 24, 2017 8:38:29 GMT -5
Jack Antonoff has already worked on two masterpieces released this year (Melodrama, Masseduction) so really interesting if this will be third or just fall flat But LWYMMD was the only song Jack worked on. The other two were Max Martin. Meldorama and Masseduction were nearly 100% him.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 24, 2017 9:02:24 GMT -5
Only song on the album? Didn't know that.
(I know it's the only single produced by him so far though)
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Post by schnetzka on Oct 24, 2017 9:47:23 GMT -5
I hope the album has a few songs that are at least four minutes.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Oct 24, 2017 16:28:11 GMT -5
I doubt Antonoff only has one song on the album. I would be very surprised if that’s the case. I would be all for him having the majority of the album, even if LWYMMD isn’t his best work.
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Post by Suono on Oct 25, 2017 6:38:51 GMT -5
So is she even doing any promo for this album? Has she done anything other than the secret sessions with fans? Is she going to at least do one performance or interview before it's released?
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Post by born on Oct 25, 2017 9:11:36 GMT -5
So is she even doing any promo for this album? Has she done anything other than the secret sessions with fans? Is she going to at least do one performance or interview before it's released? There will be no further explanation, there will just be reputation.
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Post by deepston on Oct 25, 2017 16:16:06 GMT -5
GUYS 15 kids = 15 tracks on reputation = 15 videos??? Is this a visual album?? :o
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Oct 25, 2017 16:23:00 GMT -5
GUYS 15 kids = 15 tracks on reputation = 15 videos??? Is this a visual album?? :o Look...
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Post by Active Aggressive on Oct 25, 2017 17:50:34 GMT -5
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 25, 2017 17:53:53 GMT -5
GUYS 15 kids = 15 tracks on reputation = 15 videos??? Is this a visual album?? :o Joseph Kahn has turned into a troll and not the alright kind like @touch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 0:04:38 GMT -5
Taylor doesn't need to do all the promo and scrambling that other artists have to. Her name and the Swifties do it for her.
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Post by born on Oct 26, 2017 12:31:46 GMT -5
Fan theory on Twitter: 'reputation' is a visual album and in "...Ready For It" she's born a la 'Ghost In The Shell' and that's why it's the first track.
That actually killed me, sounds like a great idea. I also love how obsessed we are with the clues and hints and stuff. I'm just wondering about the LWYMMD video which is in the middle of the album. She kills all of the old Taylors before becoming a new one?
PS: YES, I'm so obsessed with the idea of all of the songs getting music videos and that's why 101% of my posts in this thread are about this.
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