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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 17, 2017 19:32:15 GMT -5
As much as I'm aware that music is subjective, the fact people are rooting for things like the Lil Uzi Vert song makes me wonder whether Pop music should be the one that's regarded as 'lowest common denominator' anymore. This board was rooting for Mr. Saxobeat back when it was current. Any post like this is just self-superiority and nothing else. People are just mad at the absence of their preferred serving of white pussy.
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Post by Envoirment on Apr 17, 2017 19:32:39 GMT -5
Bruno gaining in airplay/streaming decently still and sales remaining stable. Can see Bruno getting to #1 the week after Kendrick's album charts.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 17, 2017 20:15:25 GMT -5
Death at this thread right now lmao!
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Post by Future Captain on Apr 17, 2017 22:44:23 GMT -5
Ranking the current top 10, mine would be: 1. Sign of the Times 2. That's What I Like 3. Something Just Like This 4. iSpy 5. Humble 6. Shape of You 7. Mask Off 8. Paris 9. Body Like A Back Road 10. The Uzi Vert song
I don't mind me some hip-hop, but some of it's latest offering is just flat-out bad. Mostly the challenge things (A trend that need to gtfo asap)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 23:20:17 GMT -5
Does anybody know why XO is at #5 on Streaming Songs with 33M streams and TWIL drops to #6 with 34.5M streams? I've see them doing this a couple times already
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 23:59:10 GMT -5
Interesting fact: During 1992-1998 the 6 years span there were 7 songs topped hot 100 for 13+ weeks (One Sweet Day, IWALY, I'll Make Love to You, Macarena, Candle In the Wind, End of the Road, The Boy Is Mine), but while theoretically you can assume that since the inception of streaming songs it makes it easier for a song to overstay at no.1, but so far 2012-2017 these 5 years if Shape of You is gonna be upended next week only 1 song (Uptown Funk) did it. That's more than 5 times frequency gap. I'm wondering why the fast-paced late 90s chart supported those humungous long-reigners than streaming era. Is it because of the single sales or radio back then somehow prevented a song to kick the then-present no.1 off that quickly?
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Post by Harx on Apr 18, 2017 4:13:40 GMT -5
Good week for Hot 100 overall! :) Besides from Tunnel Vision falling out of top 10, I am very happy to see many songs I like making big gains. "Swalla" moves another 10 spots up and almost hits top 40 (now it's his highest Hot 100 entry since "Want To Want Me"), "Call On Me" reaches new peak at #65 moving almost 20 spots up (!!!), "Location" and "Issues" reached top 20, "Redbone" almost tied its original peak, "Castle On The Hill" moves 10+ spots up again...
I am very happy today. Also nice to see "Weak" debuting.
Sad to see "Water Under The Bridge" gone though
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Post by Normi on Apr 18, 2017 6:13:13 GMT -5
If SOY got a discount on iTunes Humble. would never go to #1
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Apr 18, 2017 6:39:51 GMT -5
Does anybody know why XO is at #5 on Streaming Songs with 33M streams and TWIL drops to #6 with 34.5M streams? I've see them doing this a couple times already I remember someone brought up in one of these threads about how on-demand streaming is weighted more than YouTube views. I'm not completely sure if this is true (someone needs to confirm if this is true or not), but if it is, then that might explain why "XO Tour Llif3" charted higher than "That's What I Like" on the Streaming Songs chart despite having slightly less streaming.
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Post by fhas on Apr 18, 2017 7:33:02 GMT -5
Interesting fact: During 1992-1998 the 6 years span there were 7 songs topped hot 100 for 13+ weeks (One Sweet Day, IWALY, I'll Make Love to You, Macarena, Candle In the Wind, End of the Road, The Boy Is Mine), but while theoretically you can assume that since the inception of streaming songs it makes it easier for a song to overstay at no.1, but so far 2012-2017 these 5 years if Shape of You is gonna be upended next week only 1 song (Uptown Funk) did it. That's more than 5 times frequency gap. I'm wondering why the fast-paced late 90s chart supported those humungous long-reigners than streaming era. Is it because of the single sales or radio back then somehow prevented a song to kick the then-present no.1 off that quickly? I wonder why Billboard don't use a 0.8 or 0.9 multiplier for that era in their all-time charts. I mean, various songs had 25+ weeks in the Top 10 and 13+ weeks at #1.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 18, 2017 8:23:06 GMT -5
"Shape of You" will not peak at radio, even with "Castle on the Hill" gaining. Crazy.
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Post by renfield75 on Apr 18, 2017 9:24:13 GMT -5
Interesting fact: During 1992-1998 the 6 years span there were 7 songs topped hot 100 for 13+ weeks (One Sweet Day, IWALY, I'll Make Love to You, Macarena, Candle In the Wind, End of the Road, The Boy Is Mine), but while theoretically you can assume that since the inception of streaming songs it makes it easier for a song to overstay at no.1, but so far 2012-2017 these 5 years if Shape of You is gonna be upended next week only 1 song (Uptown Funk) did it. That's more than 5 times frequency gap. I'm wondering why the fast-paced late 90s chart supported those humungous long-reigners than streaming era. Is it because of the single sales or radio back then somehow prevented a song to kick the then-present no.1 off that quickly? First, while only one song has topped 13+ weeks at number one this decade, MANY have spent 10-12 weeks on top (1 or 2 per year). And the late 90s were not "fast-paced" at all...1996 only had 8 number one singles! Before December 5, 1998, songs had to have a physical, commercially available single to be eligible for the Hot 100. Many huge hits that were not released as commercial singles (like "Don't Speak", "Men In Black", "One Headlight", etc etc) didn't appear on the Hot 100 because of that rule. So several long-running number one hits of the late 90s (like "The Boy Is Mine" and "Un-Break My Heart") would have had shorter runs if all big radio hits were in competition with them on the Hot 100. When the chart was changed to allow airplay-only songs on 12/5/98 dozens of songs entered the chart, showing how stagnant and out-of-touch the Hot 100 had become. It was a weird time to be a chart-watcher!
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Post by Harx on Apr 18, 2017 9:46:02 GMT -5
Any update on how likely right now "Humble" is to be #1 next week?
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Apr 18, 2017 10:24:36 GMT -5
MEDIABASE - 04/18 Update TOP 20 1. ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You: 246.082 (+ 0.273) 2. BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like: 207.432 (+ 1.742) 3. THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This: 115.641 (+ 2.797) 4. RIHANNA - Love On The Brain: 112.101 (- 2.076) 5. THE WEEKND - I Feel It Coming f/Daft Punk: 110.522 (- 3.283) 6. THE CHAINSMOKERS - Paris: 109.810 (- 0.763) 7. ZAYN/TAYLOR SWIFT - I Don't Wanna Live Forever: 107.897 (- 2.208) 8. CLEAN BANDIT & ANNE-MARIE - Rockabye f/Sean Paul: 100.649 (+ 0.925) 9. ALESSIA CARA - Scars To Your Beautiful: 98.471 (- 0.348) 10. KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Ain't Me: 93.607 (+ 2.940) 11. KATY PERRY - Chained To The Rhythm: 93.004 (- 1.407) 12. JAMES ARTHUR - Say You Won't Let Go: 91.801 (+ 2.029) 13. MAROON 5 - Cold f/Future: 90.487 (- 0.039) 14. SHAWN MENDES - Mercy: 90.168 (+ 0.699) 15. ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA - Stay: 77.580 (+ 1.389) 16. MAROON 5 - Don't Wanna Know f/K. Lamar: 75.859 (- 0.195) 17. ADELE - Water Under The Bridge: 73.720 (- 1.115) 18. SAM HUNT - Body Like A Back Road: 73.084 (+ 1.138) 19. BIG SEAN - Bounce Back: 69.526 (- 0.499) 20. JASON ALDEAN - Any Ol' Barstool: 69.449 (- 0.534) Others and curiosities: JULIA MICHAELS - Issues: 64.233 (+ 0.558) KYLE - iSpy f/Lil Yachty: 60.996 (+ 0.396) LUKE COMBS - Hurricane: 53.979 (+ 0.414) GUCCI MANE - Both f/Drake: 52.902 (- 0.011) DJ KHALED - Shining f/Beyonce & Jay Z: 51.096 (+ 1.001) DRAKE - Passionfruit: 46.082 (+ 2.346) CALVIN HARRIS - Slide f/Frank Ocean/Migos: 45.743 (+ 1.003) LINKIN PARK - Heavy f/Kiiara: 40.959 (+ 0.007) ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 34.695 (+ 1.694) FUTURE - Mask Off: 34.545 (+ 1.800) HARRY STYLES - Sign Of The Times: 34.126 (+ 1.501) KEITH URBAN - The Fighter f/Carrie Underwood: 34.020 (+ 0.543) KENDRICK LAMAR - Humble.: 33.351 (+ 1.525) CHILDISH GAMBINO - Redbone: 32.060 (+ 0.536) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer: 27.875 (+ 0.513) LORDE - Green Light: 24.661 (- 1.444) HALSEY - Now Or Never: 21.341 (+ 1.131) MACHINE GUN KELLY - At My Best f/Hailee Steinfeld: 18.161 (+ 0.310) NICKI MINAJ - No Frauds w/Drake & Lil Wayne: 17.659 (- 0.515) ZAYN - Still Got Time f/PARTYNEXTDOOR: 17.543 (+ 0.286) JASON DERULO - Swalla f/N Minaj/Ty Dolla $ign: 17.119 (+ 0.208) MARTIN GARRIX & DUA LIPA - Scared To Be Lonely: 14.645 (+ 0.302) MARY J. BLIGE - U + Me (Love Lesson): 13.809 (+ 0.103) FLO RIDA & 99 PERCENT - Cake: 12.375 (- 0.032) G-EAZY & KEHLANI - Good Life: 10.056 (+ 0.183) TREY SONGZ - Nobody Else But You: 6.801 (+ 0.564) CHRIS BROWN - Privacy: 5.742 (+ 0.343) DRAKE - Portland f/Quavo/Travi$ Scott: 5.325 (+ 0.215) CHEAT CODES - No Promises f/Demi Lovato: 4.489 (+ 0.089) MARY J. BLIGE - Love Yourself f/Kanye West: 4.101 (+ 0.057) DNCE - Kissing Strangers f/N. Minaj: 3.791 (+ 0.659) MIRANDA LAMBERT - Tin Man: 3.779 (+ 0.299) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOYALTY. f/ Rihanna: 2.717 (+ 0.471) IGGY AZALEA - Mo Bounce: 2.079 (- 0.040) TLC - Way Back f/Snoop Dogg: 2.008 (+ 0.130) LUIS FONSI - Despacito f/Daddy Yankee: 1.969 (+ 0.636) KENDRICK LAMAR - DNA.: 1.420 (+ 0.140) LADY GAGA - The Cure: 1.336 (+ 1.283) NOAH CYRUS - Stay Together: 0.558 (- 0.093) TINASHE - Flame: 0.254 (+ 0.051) BRUNO MARS - Versace On The Floor: 0.197 (+ 0.014)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 10:27:10 GMT -5
HUMBLE. 70K sales, 30M audience, 65-70M streams = ~53k Shape Of You 60K sales, 185M audience, 40M streams = ~54k
Toss up
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 18, 2017 10:30:30 GMT -5
^ According to simm's early prediction from yesterday the gap between Humble and Shape of You was 18 points. The difference will probably get smaller as the week goes on, given that streaming in Spotify was depressed on Easter Sunday. HUMBLE. is also making a comeback in digital sales, plus in radio it looks likely finally Shape of You is close to reaching its peak. It seems it could go either way, but Humble definitely has momentum in its favor.
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Post by rimetm on Apr 18, 2017 10:46:52 GMT -5
DROPOUTS THIS WEEK 23 Weeks: Bad Things 22 Weeks: Water Under the Bridge 20 Weeks: Million Reasons 3 Weeks: Sacrifice 2 Weeks: Speak to a Girl 2 Weeks: The Heart Part 4 1 Week: Conscience 1 Week: Everybody 1 Week: Heatstroke 1 Week: Human 1 Week: Tin Man
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Post by atg on Apr 18, 2017 10:56:47 GMT -5
I don't see a update yet on the billboard page
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Post by Harx on Apr 18, 2017 11:27:46 GMT -5
Wait Million Reason's dead? That sucks, might miss the year end list. At least her timing with the new single release was good.
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Post by badrobot on Apr 18, 2017 11:31:07 GMT -5
Interesting fact: During 1992-1998 the 6 years span there were 7 songs topped hot 100 for 13+ weeks (One Sweet Day, IWALY, I'll Make Love to You, Macarena, Candle In the Wind, End of the Road, The Boy Is Mine), but while theoretically you can assume that since the inception of streaming songs it makes it easier for a song to overstay at no.1, but so far 2012-2017 these 5 years if Shape of You is gonna be upended next week only 1 song (Uptown Funk) did it. That's more than 5 times frequency gap. I'm wondering why the fast-paced late 90s chart supported those humungous long-reigners than streaming era. Is it because of the single sales or radio back then somehow prevented a song to kick the then-present no.1 off that quickly? First, while only one song has topped 13+ weeks at number one this decade, MANY have spent 10-12 weeks on top (1 or 2 per year). And the late 90s were not "fast-paced" at all...1996 only had 8 number one singles! Before December 5, 1998, songs had to have a physical, commercially available single to be eligible for the Hot 100. Many huge hits that were not released as commercial singles (like "Don't Speak", "Men In Black", "One Headlight", etc etc) didn't appear on the Hot 100 because of that rule. So several long-running number one hits of the late 90s (like "The Boy Is Mine" and "Un-Break My Heart") would have had shorter runs if all big radio hits were in competition with them on the Hot 100. When the chart was changed to allow airplay-only songs on 12/5/98 dozens of songs entered the chart, showing how stagnant and out-of-touch the Hot 100 had become. It was a weird time to be a chart-watcher! I have an oversimplified theory: - when the Hot 100 is heavily based on buying music, turnover is faster (digital/physical sales) - when the Hot 100 is heavily based on listening to music, songs last longer (airplay/streaming)
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Apr 18, 2017 11:45:13 GMT -5
You know, with the level of turnover the Top 10 has had lately, it's pretty noteworthy how well "Paris" is holding onto the Top 10. I mean, it's been at the 9-10 range for weeks now.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 18, 2017 15:13:34 GMT -5
You know, with the level of turnover the Top 10 has had lately, it's pretty noteworthy how well "Paris" is holding onto the Top 10. I mean, it's been at the 8-10 range for weeks now. Regarding the recent turnover of the Top 10, the last 4 weeks we've had 3, 3, 2 and 3 going backwards enter or re-enter the Top 10. One of the results of this is that this week, none of the Top 10 songs has 20 or more weeks charted in the Hot 100. iSpy is the longest charting one with 16 weeks. Regarding your Paris observation, yeah, it has been surprisingly steady. It seems it might turn out to be a bigger hit than Roses.
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Post by fhas on Apr 18, 2017 17:17:32 GMT -5
^ According to simm's early prediction from yesterday the gap between Humble and Shape of You was 18 points. The difference will probably get smaller as the week goes on, given that streaming in Spotify was depressed on Easter Sunday. HUMBLE. is also making a comeback in digital sales, plus in radio it looks likely finally Shape of You is close to reaching its peak. It seems it could go either way, but Humble definitely has momentum in its favor. Simm's updated predictions: 1. HUMBLE. 530 2. Shape Of You 522 I got the same numbers yesterday, althought I multiplied by 100 to look like George's predictions. He probably used: HUMBLE.: 65M streams, 68K sales, 30M audience SOY: 39M streams, 59K sales, 180M audience
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 18, 2017 17:30:18 GMT -5
He probably used: HUMBLE.: 65M streams, 68K sales, 30M audience SOY: 39M streams, 59K sales, 180M audience Well, unless SOY suddenly has a big drop in the spins next couple of days, its impressions won't fall 5 million from last week. "HUMBLE" is getting a little sales boost right now, though, so maybe it can get 70k or something for the week.
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Post by graham on Apr 21, 2017 22:06:27 GMT -5
New Entrants So apparently Dierks Bentley is featured in Flatliner, but doesn't have a verse. Nothing here stands out and the guitars are kind of unnecessary. So not really feeling this. It's nice to see some black country stars. I've definitely heard If I Told You before. I like the vocals, but nothing else is worth caring about. I'll stick to Wagon Wheel.
I reviewed Weak when it debuted on Hits 1, but I liked it then. Now it's definitely creative, but too glitchy and the falsetto is unnecessary. I knew Still Got Time would re-enter, but it's still just as bland. But At My Best is completely welcome. That chorus just really sticks out.
Some of you know that I don't like Kenny Chesney, and if you didn't, now you know. Bar At The End Of The World does at least have a little something to eat, but most of it is mediocre with those bland vocals. Cake is 99% gonna debut on the Weekend Countdown this week, so you'll get a full review on it then.
Do I even need to review Everyday We Lit. A bland, stupid, crappy combination of trap and hip hop. Unforgettable at least doesn't have terrible vocals, but I don't know how you could call this a song. At least add some variation to the beat, it's not too hard.
I literally just reviewed Now Or Never and Sign Of The Times in my Weekend Countdown post, so check out the reviews there if you want a paragraph about my opinion on each. If I had to guess, I'd say that the hot shot debut will peak at #2 (I can't see it reaching #1). It'll drop at least 12 spots next week, but I think it'll rebound unlike Chained To The Rhythm.
Top 20 Review 0 - Crap 20. Migos/Lil Uzi Vert – Bad And Boujee 19. Lil Uzi Vert – XO Tour Llif3 18. Kodak Black – Tunnel Vision 17. Ed Sheeran – Shape Of You 16. Future – Mask Off
1 - Bad 15. Khalid – Location
2 - Mediocre 14. Zedd/Alessia Cara – Stay 13. Harry Styles – Sign Of The Times 12. James Arthur – Say You Won't Let Go 11. Post Malone/Quavo – Congratulations
3 - Decent 10. Sam Hunt – Body Like A Back Road 9. The Chainsmokers – Paris 8. Julia Michaels – Issues 7. Clean Bandit/Sean Paul/Anne Marie – Rockabye
4 - Good 6. Kyle/Lil Yachty – iSpy 5. Kygo/Selena Gomez – It Ain't Me
5 - Great 4. Kendrick Lamar – HUMBLE. 3. Bruno Mars – That's What I Like 2. The Chainsmokers/Coldplay – Something Just Like This 1. The Weeknd/Daft Punk – I Feel It Coming
Total Score: 49/100 (Bad)
Everyday We Blurb As for our exits, we have one of my favorite songs of last year, but I don't care for if much at this point. We have 2 songs that stuck with me till the end. Too bad Heartstroke was a one week wonder. And the rest I'm happy or don't care too much about. I'll explain something related below.
So The Heart Part 4 is now in yellow because there just isn't quite enough to if for if to be in yellow. It goes on for a little too long. The rapping is great, but it needs more creativity. And HUMBLE. did grow on me quite a bit. I don't care about the vocals, that beat is just insanely sick! It's stuck in my head and the vocals actually sound really good with it. So for now, I'm jamming out to this. I really hope that it's #1 next week.
Is Scared To Be Lonely actually going to do something? Maybe. It's on the AT40 and it's gaining airplay. I have no idea at this point. I heard a remix of this on z100 and it's pretty much just more beat in the build up and drop. It makes as the song so much better though and I really wish that the version I heard on z100 could be the more popular one.
The Chainsmokers didn't have one song debut on here this week which was surprising. There are some songs on the album on bubbling under though. At least The One jumped. I thought Break Up Every Night would debut, but I guess that I was wrong about that.
Play That Song has now been here for 20 weeks and still is just starting to gain in airplay. My prediction is that it'll randomly start to flop as I really can't see this becoming a hit at this point.
At this point, I don't see That's What I Like taking over Shape Of You unfortunately. It's slowly gaining less and less airplay and by the time HUMBLE. is #1 next week (hopefully), I can see it losing airplay by then. I just can't see it happening, unfortunately unless it just makes it like Starboy.
As for our top 20 entrants, Issues enters because of an iTunes discount. It's #9 as I type this. It would be weird, but interesting to see this in the top 10. Location entering is unnecessary. I would be saying the same about a Congratulations, but I don't know why I can't dislike it. And we have our hot shot debut.
As for our top 20 exits, I can group them together as they're all songs bleeding in every category. Number 27 really saddens me as I'm really disappointed that this song ended up flopping.
As for our top 10 entrants, screw both of them. Ugghhh… I'm just speechless on both. I'd honestly rather streaming not count for this chart as all it does is make crappy trap/hip hop hits. But at least Tunnel Vision left. And Rockabye needs more than just great airplay to stay in the top 10. And we have our debut. I Feel It Coming is rapidly falling in every category. Too bad.
I'm not sure how How Far I'll Go (the bad one) and You're Welcome are still here besides a little bit of streaming, but it's not that funny anymore. We need not the former lasting 20 weeks as it's on its 18th.
Heavy doing nothing is scaring me. It's still gaining in airplay, but it's not really moving too much here. And I know Green Light is done so I'll stop begging about that.
Stats #1 Recommendation For This Chart: Lorde – Sober
Most Missed Song: Ruth B – Lost Boy
Throwback Pick: Maroon 5 – Makes Me Wonder (2007)
Top 5 Picks 1. The Weeknd/Daft Punk – I Feel It Coming 2. Lorde – Green Light 3. Linkin Park/Kiiara – Heavy 4. Katy Perry/Skip Marley – Chained To The Rhythm 5. The Chainsmokers – The One
Bottom 5 Picks 1. 6LACK – Prblems 2. Russ – Losin Control 3. Migos/Lil Uzi Vert – Bad And Boujee 4. J. Cole – Deja Vu 5. Lil Uzi Vert – XO Tour Llif3
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 23:03:44 GMT -5
Interesting fact: During 1992-1998 the 6 years span there were 7 songs topped hot 100 for 13+ weeks (One Sweet Day, IWALY, I'll Make Love to You, Macarena, Candle In the Wind, End of the Road, The Boy Is Mine), but while theoretically you can assume that since the inception of streaming songs it makes it easier for a song to overstay at no.1, but so far 2012-2017 these 5 years if Shape of You is gonna be upended next week only 1 song (Uptown Funk) did it. That's more than 5 times frequency gap. I'm wondering why the fast-paced late 90s chart supported those humungous long-reigners than streaming era. Is it because of the single sales or radio back then somehow prevented a song to kick the then-present no.1 off that quickly? I wonder why Billboard don't use a 0.8 or 0.9 multiplier for that era in their all-time charts. I mean, various songs had 25+ weeks in the Top 10 and 13+ weeks at #1. You know, I was thinking about the same thing! It's idiotic for them to jampack 1992-early 2012 into one multiplier for the greatest of all time hot 100. 1992-1998 is huge single sales era (especially after 1995 I think) which facilitated huge weekly leads and real points (Candle in the wind, I will always love you, gangsta's paradise, etc) as well as luscious chart runs (how do I live, truly madly deeply, you were meant for me, etc) and 1999-2004 airplay begins to damn take over (2001-2004 year end charts were almost airplay charts copy and paste) and chart runs were a little stunted except for rock songs with much better longevity, and 2005-early 2007 was incipient digital songs era and in 2007 I read there's a major weighing change in digital component. Then 2008-early 2012 digital sales were almost even year by year and one multiplier for these years was fair. Then 2012 was on-demand, 2013 YouTube inclusion, 2016-2017 on-demand starts to go crazy but with 52-week recurrent rule it's balancing things out a bit. I'm thinking 1992-1998 *0.9 1999-2004 *1-1.05 2005-2007 *1 2008-2011 *0.9-0.95 2012-2014 *0.85-0.9 2015-2016 *0.8 2017 *0.75-0.8?
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Post by fhas on Apr 22, 2017 10:41:33 GMT -5
I wonder why Billboard don't use a 0.8 or 0.9 multiplier for that era in their all-time charts. I mean, various songs had 25+ weeks in the Top 10 and 13+ weeks at #1. You know, I was thinking about the same thing! It's idiotic for them to jampack 1992-early 2012 into one multiplier for the greatest of all time hot 100. 1992-1998 is huge single sales era (especially after 1995 I think) which facilitated huge weekly leads and real points (Candle in the wind, I will always love you, gangsta's paradise, etc) as well as luscious chart runs (how do I live, truly madly deeply, you were meant for me, etc) and 1999-2004 airplay begins to damn take over (2001-2004 year end charts were almost airplay charts copy and paste) and chart runs were a little stunted except for rock songs with much better longevity, and 2005-early 2007 was incipient digital songs era and in 2007 I read there's a major weighing change in digital component. Then 2008-early 2012 digital sales were almost even year by year and one multiplier for these years was fair. Then 2012 was on-demand, 2013 YouTube inclusion, 2016-2017 on-demand starts to go crazy but with 52-week recurrent rule it's balancing things out a bit. I'm thinking 1992-1998 *0.9 1999-2004 *1-1.05 2005-2007 *1 2008-2011 *0.9-0.95 2012-2014 *0.85-0.9 2015-2016 *0.8 2017 *0.75-0.8? I would use an even lower multiplier for 1996-1998, maybe 0.8. I think Billboard should use a higher multiplier post-25/52 rule, maybe 0.85. Looking at your comment I had a scary thought: imagine Smooth's all-time points with a 1.05 multiplier? Jesus. Also, this would help Yeah beat WBT for #1, so I'm in favor of this change.
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