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Post by Future Captain on May 7, 2017 23:23:31 GMT -5
I think he meant lowkey as in compared to Taylor and Adele, his peak isn't as bombastic as the two. (3 albums that opened with 1 million+ and an album that open with 3 million+ vs two 500k opener).
He's also very strong in single front too (Remember early 2016?), and almost all his features become a top 10 hit. He might not be *the* biggest artist of the 2010s,but he's quite definitely the biggest male one with the only other contender for that title being Bruno Mars.
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Post by 85la on May 8, 2017 0:29:59 GMT -5
Well I meant this was an instance at least one AA was in every song top 10 but not 100% But if you really believe I thought Sean Paul and Fergie were black ok I thought that we were talking about top 10s on Hot 100 without any non-African Americans. Because as far as I know all the other groups in the top 10 you posted consist 100% of black members. I remember when this happened, and it was widely reported in the media with the general phrasing something along the lines of "first all African-American top 10 in the Billboard Hot 100," but the specific phrasing varied from outlet to outlet, such as "first top 10 all by African American artists or in which the majority of the members of each act is African American," and so forth. Obviously Justin Timberlake isn't black, so that's somewhat puzzling, so maybe they were going by lead artists? And then there's people like Sean Paul and Fergie who I believe might have some African ancestry, but it's probably not most of their ethnic make-up, so that's where it gets a bit dicey. While something like this statistic is a notable accomplishment, it does show some of the drawbacks and difficulties of trying to pigeon-hole people into either/or race categories.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 8, 2017 7:51:48 GMT -5
I thought that we were talking about top 10s on Hot 100 without any non-African Americans. Because as far as I know all the other groups in the top 10 you posted consist 100% of black members. I remember when this happened, and it was widely reported in the media with the general phrasing something along the lines of "first all African-American top 10 in the Billboard Hot 100," but the specific phrasing varied from outlet to outlet, such as "first top 10 all by African American artists or in which the majority of the members of each act is African American," and so forth. Obviously Justin Timberlake isn't black, so that's somewhat puzzling, so maybe they were going by lead artists? And then there's people like Sean Paul and Fergie who I believe might have some African ancestry, but it's probably not most of their ethnic make-up, so that's where it gets a bit dicey. While something like this statistic is a notable accomplishment, it does show some of the drawbacks and difficulties of trying to pigeon-hole people into either/or race categories. Well, and it doesn't directly reply here but is related; Charlize Theron is from South Africa and is thus African American, but she's not black. I often read Halle Berry is the only African American to win the Oscar for Best Actress, but that isn't true. More so it's a problem with people using "African American" when they mean "black."
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 8, 2017 8:07:04 GMT -5
I remember when this happened, and it was widely reported in the media with the general phrasing something along the lines of "first all African-American top 10 in the Billboard Hot 100," but the specific phrasing varied from outlet to outlet, such as "first top 10 all by African American artists or in which the majority of the members of each act is African American," and so forth. Obviously Justin Timberlake isn't black, so that's somewhat puzzling, so maybe they were going by lead artists? And then there's people like Sean Paul and Fergie who I believe might have some African ancestry, but it's probably not most of their ethnic make-up, so that's where it gets a bit dicey. While something like this statistic is a notable accomplishment, it does show some of the drawbacks and difficulties of trying to pigeon-hole people into either/or race categories. Well, and it doesn't directly reply here but is related; Charlize Theron is from South Africa and is thus African American, but she's not black. I often read Halle Berry is the only African American to win the Oscar for Best Actress, but that isn't true. More so it's a problem with people using "African American" when they mean "black." I agree with your last line, but the rest of your post is uninformed. "African American", as a term, refers to American individuals with either complete or partial ancestry from sub-Saharan Africa. In other words, it means a black American. Is it a flawed term? Yes. However, by definition, Charlize Theron is not African American. She is a South African American. Why? Because Africa is not a country. It is a continent. Like "Italian American", "Irish American", and other ethnic groups within America, African immigrants or Americans born to African immigrants are "[insert country name] Americans". They are "Nigerian American", "Ghanaian American", and so forth.
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Post by imbondz on May 8, 2017 8:27:08 GMT -5
Ugh. Back to the music discussion. Anyone think SJLT has any chance to sneak a week at #1 or is that probably not possible?
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on May 8, 2017 8:30:52 GMT -5
MEDIABASE - 05/08 Update
TOP 20 1. BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like: 224.088 (+ 1.028) 2. ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You: 218.288 (- 1.751) 3. THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This: 160.797 (+ 2.419) 4. KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Ain't Me: 125.921 (+ 1.795) 5. JAMES ARTHUR - Say You Won't Let Go: 121.340 (+ 0.905) 6. ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA - Stay: 112.105 (+ 0.949) 7. ALESSIA CARA - Scars To Your Beautiful: 87.826 (- 0.698) 8. MAROON 5 - Cold f/Future: 87.119 (- 0.545) 9. CLEAN BANDIT & ANNE-MARIE - Rockabye f/Sean Paul: 83.780 (- 1.720) 10. SAM HUNT - Body Like A Back Road: 81.833 (- 0.030) 11. JULIA MICHAELS - Issues: 79.242 (+ 0.148) 12. THE WEEKND - I Feel It Coming f/Daft Punk: 77.488 (- 1.194) 13. RIHANNA - Love On The Brain: 77.187 (- 0.743) 14. THE CHAINSMOKERS - Paris: 73.488 (- 1.614) 15. DRAKE - Passionfruit: 72.984 (+ 1.317) ▲ 16. ZAYN/TAYLOR SWIFT - I Don't Wanna Live Forever: 72.003 (- 0.800) ▼ 17. ADELE - Water Under The Bridge: 68.451 (+ 0.166) 18. MAROON 5 - Don't Wanna Know f/K. Lamar: 66.890 (- 0.424) 19. LUKE COMBS - Hurricane: 66.803 (+ 0.100) 20. SHAWN MENDES - Mercy: 63.187 (- 1.235) Others and curiosities: KENDRICK LAMAR - Humble.: 63.091 (+ 1.360) ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 62.884 (+ 0.790) CALVIN HARRIS - Slide f/Frank Ocean/Migos: 59.143 (+ 1.147) FUTURE - Mask Off: 56.444 (+ 0.635) KHALID - Location: 52.177 (- 0.184) DJ KHALED - I'm The One f/Bieber/Quavo...: 47.211 (+ 3.250) HARRY STYLES - Sign Of The Times: 45.913 (+ 0.151) LINKIN PARK - Heavy f/Kiiara: 43.839 (+ 0.481) CHILDISH GAMBINO - Redbone: 40.096 (+ 0.627) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer: 37.864 (+ 1.084) LUIS FONSI & DADDY YANKEE - Despacito f/Justin Bieber: 34.915 (+ 1.855) HALSEY - Now Or Never: 34.608 (+ 0.751) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me...: 26.496 (+ 1.976) MACHINE GUN KELLY - At My Best f/Hailee Steinfeld: 20.656 (- 0.195) LADY GAGA - The Cure: 21.619 (+ 0.132) JASON DERULO - Swalla f/N Minaj/Ty Dolla $ign: 19.738 (+ 0.600) MARTIN GARRIX & DUA LIPA - Scared To Be Lonely: 16.450 (+ 0.138) CHRIS BROWN - Privacy: 14.800 (+ 0.368) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention: 14.701 (+ 1.082) DNCE - Kissing Strangers f/N. Minaj: 13.246 (+ 0.116) CHEAT CODES - No Promises f/Demi Lovato: 6.922 (+ 0.107) KATY PERRY - Bon Appetit f/Migos: 6.662 (- 0.502) PARAMORE - Hard Times: 6.634 (- 0.132) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands: 6.367 (+ 1.331) HAILEE STEINFELD - Most Girls: 3.885 (+ 0.107) FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Doing It For The Money: 2.118 (+ 0.294) THE WEEKND - Reminder: 1.045 (+ 0.190) CLEAN BANDIT - Symphony f/Zara Larsson: 0.387 (+ 0.044) HAIM - Want You Back: 0.317 (+ 0.078)
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Post by imbondz on May 8, 2017 8:53:34 GMT -5
Wow at Katy Perry bombing.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 8, 2017 9:00:48 GMT -5
Ugh. Back to the music discussion. Lol
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Post by Glove Slap on May 8, 2017 9:53:16 GMT -5
Well, and it doesn't directly reply here but is related; Charlize Theron is from South Africa and is thus African American, but she's not black. I often read Halle Berry is the only African American to win the Oscar for Best Actress, but that isn't true. More so it's a problem with people using "African American" when they mean "black." I agree with your last line, but the rest of your post is uninformed. "African American", as a term, refers to American individuals with either complete or partial ancestry from sub-Saharan Africa. In other words, it means a black American. Is it a flawed term? Yes. However, by definition, Charlize Theron is not African American. She is a South African American. Why? Because Africa is not a country. It is a continent. Like "Italian American", "Irish American", and other ethnic groups within America, African immigrants or Americans born to African immigrants are "[insert country name] Americans". They are "Nigerian American", "Ghanaian American", and so forth. African-American is essentially a catch-all term to refer to Black Americans of slave descent. It absolutely shouldn't be, but to this day that is the inference and it's not something that will change in this generation or the next unfortunately. It's actually why a lot of Black nationals from African countries (as well as Black individuals from other countries) hate that term, because it makes automatic assumptions about any Black person in America regardless of their actual background.
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Post by forg on May 8, 2017 10:57:18 GMT -5
I've grown to like Linkin Park's Heavy, I hope it continues to build in airplay and improve on other components as well
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 8, 2017 12:12:03 GMT -5
Heavy has not peaked, as it's still gaining in airplay and has good sales. It should climb into the Top 50 this week, and it'll probably bounce a lot after One More Light is released.
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Post by Harx on May 8, 2017 13:02:31 GMT -5
10. It Ain't Me (=) 9. XO Tour Llif3 (=) 8. iSpy (=) 7. Mask Off (5-7) 6. Something Just Like This (=) 5. Shape Of You (2-5) 4. HUMBLE. (3-4) 3. Despacito (4-3) 2. That's What I Like (1-2) 1. I'm The One (DEBUT)
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Post by Normi on May 8, 2017 13:20:15 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on May 8, 2017 13:22:27 GMT -5
Still have zero use for half of the top 10. Despacito will probably be the next #1.
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Post by Harx on May 8, 2017 13:24:42 GMT -5
I like I'm The One and I don't mind it but I really don't want it to be the #1 for majority of the summer, I know it will eventually get obnoxious af.
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Post by allow that on May 8, 2017 13:25:26 GMT -5
Still have zero use for half of the top 10. Despacito will probably be the next #1. It seems likely. If so, that means every song in this week's top 5 is a past, present, or future #1.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 8, 2017 13:38:03 GMT -5
Still have zero use for half of the top 10. Despacito will probably be the next #1. It seems likely. If so, that means every song in this week's top 5 is a past, present, or future #1. Well, "Despacito" is looking like it could be #1 next chart, and the current top 5 is far enough ahead they will probably all be top 5 next chart and thus all 5 will have been #1 while being the actual top 5.
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Post by Harx on May 8, 2017 13:43:09 GMT -5
I am already anticipating the next week's top 10 predictions thread to appear
It's basically I'm The One vs Despacito when it comes to #1 right?
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on May 8, 2017 13:50:52 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on May 8, 2017 13:51:34 GMT -5
I am already anticipating the next week's top 10 predictions thread to appear It's basically I'm The One vs Despacito when it comes to #1 right? I guess, but Despacito is ahead at iTunes (and by a decent amount with versions combined), a little ahead on Spotify, and ahead in airplay (at least for now). Not sure how much of a race it is at this point, though there are obviously more days in the week.
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Post by Normi on May 8, 2017 13:54:20 GMT -5
Sign to change the single to Goddess. Honestly she should be lucky to have actually charted
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Post by Envoirment on May 8, 2017 13:59:32 GMT -5
I wonder if Bruno can get in another week or two at #1. His sales aren't far behind now, he has a large airplay lead still and the streaming difference should be smaller now that the first week for "I'm The One" is over. Bruno's youtube views are at the highest they've been in the US now and are about 700k more than "I'm The One" in the daily chart (Likely higher if you include remix views as well). That should help make up for the difference in spotify numbers.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 8, 2017 14:00:31 GMT -5
I wonder if Bruno can get in another week or two at #1. His sales aren't far behind now, he has a large airplay lead still and the streaming difference should be smaller now that the first week for "I'm The One" is over. Bruno's youtube views are at the highest they've been in the US now and are about 700k more than "I'm The One" in the daily chart (Likely higher if you include remix views as well). That should help make up for the difference in spotify numbers. Why are you only comparing his numbers to "I'm The One" when "Despacito" is the bigger threat now?
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Post by Leo ✔ on May 8, 2017 14:01:39 GMT -5
Only like 4 songs in top 10. Ew. Awful chart.
DJ Khaled's All-Star 'I'm the One' Debuts at No. 1 on Billboard Hot 100 The song, featuring Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper & Lil Wayne, is Khaled's first Hot 100 leaderDJ Khaled's "I'm the One," featuring Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper and Lil Wayne, launches at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart (dated May 20). The high-profile collab, released on We the Best/Def Jam/Epic Records, is the first Hot 100 leader for Khaled (who co-produced and co-wrote it and adds vocals) and Chance the Rapper, as well as the first for Quavo, of rap act Migos, as a soloist. Bieber earns his fourth No. 1 and Lil Wayne scores his third.
The song dethrones Bruno Mars' "That's What I Like" after a week at No. 1 on the Hot 100, although it takes over atop the Radio Songs chart.
As we do every Monday, let's run down the top 10 of the Hot 100, which blends sales, airplay and streaming data. All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow, May 9.
In fact, let's break out in 10 parts the many feats achieved with the No. 1 Hot 100 arrival for "One."
'One' in streams & sales: "One," released April 28, opens at No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart with 53.9 million U.S. streams in the week ending May 4, according to Nielsen Music. It also arrives atop the Digital Song Sales chart with 171,000 downloads sold in the week ending May 4. On Radio Songs, "One" is the week's top debut at No. 33 with 35 million in all-format airplay audience in the week ending May 7.
Bieber earns his eighth Digital Song Sales No. 1 and third Streaming Songs No. 1, while Lil Wayne lands his third No. 1 on the sales list (and first on Streaming Songs). The other three acts on "One" rule each ranking for the first time.
Number 'One' debut: "One" is just the 28th title to debut at No. 1 on the Hot 100. It's the first since Ed Sheeran's "Shape of You" on the Jan. 28, 2017-dated chart. ("One" is the 1,064th total No. 1 in the history of the Hot 100, which began on Aug. 4, 1958.)
Meanwhile, "One" is the first rap song to debut atop the Hot 100 since Eminem's "Not Afraid," seven years ago this week (May 22, 2010).
Plus, "One" is the second song to debut atop the Hot 100 with, appropriately, the word "one" in its title: On Dec. 2, 1995, another superstar team-up, Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day," launched at the summit. It went on to spend a record 16 weeks at No. 1. Speaking of Carey…
Bieber's second No. 1 bow: Bieber becomes just the third artist to have debuted at No. 1 on the Hot 100 with multiple titles. He first opened on top with his first leader, "What Do You Mean?" (Sept. 19, 2015). Carey leads with three No. 1 entrances ("Fantasy," "One Sweet Day," both in 1995, and "Honey," 1997), while Britney Spears, like Bieber now, has made two such starts ("3," in 2009, and "Hold It Against Me," 2011).
Bieber & Lil Wayne's latest Hot 100 leaders: Bieber and Lil Wayne are the chart-topping veterans on "One," tallying their fourth and third Hot 100 No. 1, respectively. In addition to "One" and "Mean," Bieber ruled in 2016 with "Sorry" and "Love Yourself." Lil Wayne led with "Lollipop," featuring Static Major, in 2008, and as featured on Jay Sean's "Down," in 2009.
The rest of the "One" team easily earns new Hot 100 highs. Khaled logged one prior top 10: "I'm On One," featuring Drake, Rick Ross and (oh, look) Lil Wayne, which reached No. 10 in 2011.
Quavo also collects his second top 10 (apart from Migos). Drake's "Portland," featuring Quavo and Travis Scott, debuted and peaked at No. 9 in April.
Chance the Rapper achieves not only his first Hot 100 No. 1 or top 10, but even his first top 40 hit: he'd climbed to a prior No. 41 best with his first entry, 2013's featured turn on "Confident" by… Bieber.
Bieber goes fourth: Notably, Bieber has now earned more top five Hot 100 hits after his 2015 album Purpose than he did from the set: following the LP's No. 1s "Mean," "Sorry" and "Love Yourself," he's added four top fives in featured roles, on Major Lazer's "Cold Water" (also featuring MO; No. 2); DJ Snake's "Let Me Love You" (No. 4); Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee's "Despacito" (up to No. 3 this week, see below); and now Khaled's No. 1 "One."
Five at 1 with 'One': "One" marks the first Hot 100 No. 1 by five individually credited acts. Twice before, a high of four acts had shared a leader on the list, via "Give Me Everything," by Pitbull featuring Ne-Yo, Afrojack and Nayer (2011), and "Lady Marmalade," by Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mya and P!nk (2001).
(Ironically, the hook of the Hot 100's new five-act leader finds Bieber singing, "I'm the only one …")
Quavo & Migos: As member of Migos, Quavo spent three weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100 beginning Jan. 21 with "Bad and Boujee," featuring Lil Uzi Vert. Now with a solo No. 1 thanks to "One," Quavo is the first artist to top the chart with a group and as a soloist in the same year since will.i.am in 2010. That year, he led with The Black Eyed Peas' "Imma Be" (two weeks, beginning March 6) and solo as featured on Usher's "OMG" (four weeks, May 15). "One" even sports a nod to "Boujee," with Quavo reprising the song's signature "rain drop" lyric. (And, mostly unrelated, but interesting: Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown get a shoutout, too, in Lil Wayne's verse. Houston earned 11 Hot 100 No. 1s with her own songs, and Brown, two.)
Three at 1: The Hot 100 has welcomed a new No. 1 in each of the last three weeks. Mars' "That's What I Like" rose 3-1 on the May 13 chart, after Kendrick Lamar's' "Humble." made the same move on May 6. The Hot 100 hadn't seen three new No. 1s in three consecutive weeks since December 2010, when Rihanna's "Only Girl (In the World)," P!nk's "Raise Your Glass" and Katy Perry's "Firework" all logged their first weeks at No. 1 that Dec. 4, 11 and 18. Summer Number 'One'? It's worth noting that Drake's "One Dance," featuring WizKid and Kyla, hit No. 1 on the Hot 100 a year ago this week (on the chart dated May 21, 2016), given that it went on to become the No. 1 song of the summer of 2016 (based on chart performance between Memorial Day and Labor Day). Could "I'm the One" similarly sizzle this summer? One major-market radio program director told Billboard that, in his opinion, it's the "first contender" for song of the summer this year.
That's a rap: Additionally, "One" debuts at No. 1 on both the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts. Khaled earns his second leader on each list, following "I'm on One." Lil Wayne, meanwhile, ups his count to 10 No. 1s. Bieber, Quavo and Chance the Rapper tally their first No. 1 each on the survey.
As "One" overtakes the Hot 100 in its first week, Mars' "Like" drops to No. 2 after a week on top. Still, it rises 2-1 on Radio Songs (172 million, up 4 percent), becoming Mars' seventh No. 1 on the airplay chart, tying him with Usher for the most among solo males. The two equal Perry for the third-most among all artists, after Rihanna (12) and Carey (11). "Like" leads Hot R&B Songs for a 12th week.
More Bieber: Luis Fonsi's "Despacito," featuring Bieber, hits a new Hot 100 high, lifting 4-3. It descends to No. 2 after a week atop Digital Song Sales, but gains by 16 percent to 100,000 sold (with 70 percent of its total sales from the Bieber remix). It dips 2-3 on Streaming Songs, but similarly increases by 10 percent to 48 million. On Radio Songs, the track surges 32-18 (49 million, up 30 percent), winning the Hot 100's top Airplay Gainer award. "Despacito" leads Hot Latin Songs for a 14th week.
Even more Bieber: he's the first artist to place two titles in the Hot 100's top three simultaneously since… he himself doubled up with "Love Yourself" (No. 1) and "Sorry" (No. 3) on Feb. 27, 2016.
Rounding out the Hot 100's top five, Lamar's "Humble." falls 3-4 and Sheeran's former 12-week Hot 100 No. 1 "Shape" slides 2-5.
Capping the Hot 100's top 10, The Chainsmokers and Coldplay's No. 3-peaking "Something Just Like This" holds at No. 6 (as The Chainsmokers spend a 53rd consecutive week in the top 10). On Hot Dance/Electronic Songs, "Something" logs an eighth total week at No. 1. Future's "Mask Off" drops to No. 7 from its No. 5 Hot 100 peak, followed by three songs that each stay in place: Kyle's "iSpy," featuring Lil Yachty (No. 8, after hitting No. 4); Lil Uzi Vert's "XO TOUR Llif3" (No. 9, after reaching No. 8); and Kygo and Selena Gomez's "It Ain't Me," which keeps at its No. 10 high after entering the region a week ago.
Find out more Hot 100 news in the weekly "Hot 100 Chart Moves" column and by listening (and subscribing) to Billboard's Chart Beat Podcast and Pop Shop Podcast, all posting this week. Plus, visit Billboard.com tomorrow (May 9), when all charts, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh. Source: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7785104/dj-khaled-im-the-one-hot-100-debuts-number-one-justin-bieber
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Post by Glove Slap on May 8, 2017 14:13:12 GMT -5
"It's the first number one debut since Ed Sheeran's "Shape of You" It was still number one literally 3 weeks ago. It's an important achievement though, certainly one that's worth noting and celebrating more than say, making the year-end chart . WEEZY F BABY
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Post by Leo ✔ on May 8, 2017 14:17:35 GMT -5
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Post by Gary on May 8, 2017 14:25:09 GMT -5
"It's the first number one debut since Ed Sheeran's "Shape of You" It was still number one literally 3 weeks ago. It's an important achievement though, certainly one that's worth noting and celebrating more than say, making the year-end chart . WEEZY F BABY As we all know, songs debut in the top 10 with regularity now. If you debut high, the most common position to debut at is in fact number one.
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Post by Harx on May 8, 2017 14:28:47 GMT -5
I'm really happy to see Imagine Dragons getting back into top 20! I think it's the first alternative cross over hit this year?
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Post by rainie on May 8, 2017 14:51:30 GMT -5
Yay @ Believer reaching top 20! Hopefully pop radio will be more interested in it now. I'm just glad I Bet My Life flopped as that was one of the worst songs of 2015 but now that they're back with a far better lead single it's doing well.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 15:06:12 GMT -5
I'M THE ONE!!!
Also I didn't expect SOY to fall that much. Not that I'm complaining.
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