Billboard Hot 100: 7/8/2017

[felipe]

Jun 26, 2017 15:28:17 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Rihanna will slow down someday (12 years into Madonna's career she was still on top, having her biggest chart hit with "Take A Bow" - ironically the name of one of Rihanna's chart-toppers too) but her run thus far has been amazing. #1 hits aren't as automatic for her as they used to be but obviously still happen, so it will be interesting to see if she can pass Mariah and the Beatles. One thing we know is that, like Madonna, you can never totally count her out!

I don't really think Madonna was on top during the Bedtime Stories era. Actually, Madonna seemed to struggle through most of the 90s, isn't it so?

[forg]

Oh Believer at #11 this week! It will go top 10 next week right? I already had two songs I was rooting for stall at 11 (Issues and Say You Won't Let Go ) so don't let this be the third one in a row

[85la]

Jun 26, 2017 21:33:36 GMT -5 felipe said:

Jun 26, 2017 15:28:17 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Rihanna will slow down someday (12 years into Madonna's career she was still on top, having her biggest chart hit with "Take A Bow" - ironically the name of one of Rihanna's chart-toppers too) but her run thus far has been amazing. #1 hits aren't as automatic for her as they used to be but obviously still happen, so it will be interesting to see if she can pass Mariah and the Beatles. One thing we know is that, like Madonna, you can never totally count her out!

I don't really think Madonna was on top during the Bedtime Stories era. Actually, Madonna seemed to struggle through most of the 90s, isn't it so?

No. She had 15 top ten hits and multiple multi-platinum albums during the 90s. Not just Take A Bow, but Vogue, Justify My Love, Ray of Light, etc. Starting in the 2000s however you would have a point, so even Madonna hasn't lasted forever.

But it's too bad Rihanna is taking most of the press from this song, because I think it's amazing that DJ Khaled is reaching the pinnacle of his success after age 40, which is very rare for either gender.

[jenglisbe]

Jun 26, 2017 21:55:05 GMT -5 85la said:

I think it's amazing that DJ Khaled is reaching the pinnacle of his success after age 40, which is very rare for either gender.

I'm mixed on this issue. On the one hand, sure, it is rare. At the same time, he isn't front and center (i.e. the singer and what not) so it's probably easier for him than it is for singers over 40.

[singingrulebritannia]

Jun 26, 2017 22:14:38 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jun 26, 2017 21:55:05 GMT -5 85la said:

I think it's amazing that DJ Khaled is reaching the pinnacle of his success after age 40, which is very rare for either gender.

I'm mixed on this issue. On the one hand, sure, it is rare. At the same time, he isn't front and center (i.e. the singer and what not) so it's probably easier for him than it is for singers over 40.

He barely contributes anything to his own songs at all, really.

[Deleted]

The thing about Rihanna this past year was that her first single off ANTI performed way better than most Rihanna singles, so I wasn't too surprised that her follow-up singles didn't do as well. These past couple years, chart runs throughout albums have been more front-loaded than usual, with 1 or 2 huge singles, then the album release, then nothing else coming close. If Work didn't spend so long at #1, Needed Me and Love On The Brain probably would've done a bit better, at least. Probably could've squeezed in 1 or 2 more #1 hits this era. She's definitely not done getting #1 hits.

[kcdawg13]

Songs to look out for: Cassie's Me & U. The 2006 track was just discounted on iTunes and has broken the Top 40 (It's currently sitting at #35), it's too early to see if it'll have enough momentum to re-enter the Hot 100. The R&B track peaked as high as #3 in it's original run over 11 years ago.

My question: Why? I didn't know the song was that memorable, I mean, many Puff Daddy and Biggie tracks were discounted as well yet they haven't broken iTunes Top 40, and they were arguably bigger stars in their day than Cassie.

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Never thought I'd see Plies on the Hot 100 ever again, lol.

[Harx]

Notable new peaks this week

Congratulations (#8)
Believer (#11)
Unforgettable (#16)
Bad Liar (#20)
Attention (#25)
Magnolia (#29)
Strip That Down (#34)
Slippery (#35)

[fhas]

Hot 100: www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100



#33 Closer (+1) 

[Deleted]

Rihanna has had a number one hit from her past seven albums straight.

[Deleted]

Why does Despacito have a bullet? Didn't the official points predictions have it down?

[Normi]

Jun 27, 2017 6:15:13 GMT -5 @alec935 said:

Why does Despacito have a bullet? Didn't the official points predictions have it down?

Because it's still gaining in Radio, I suppose

[NeRD]

Despacito is still gaining at radio, but it has peaked in streaming and in sales. I think next week we'll begin to see it decrease in those two metrics at a faster rate.

If all goes as planned and Taylor doesn't release, I could see Wild Thoughts reaching #1 by the end of July.

[areyoureadytojump]

7/8 Billboard Hot 100

TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist Imprint | label

1 1 1 23 Despacito - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee Featuring Justin Bieber - Universal Music Latino/Raymond Braun/SchoolBoy/Def Jam | UMLE/Republic
2 2 3 8 I'm The One - DJ Khaled Featuring Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance The Rapper & Lil Wayne - We The Best/We The Best | Def Jam/Epic
3 3 2 23 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars - Atlantic
4 New 1 Wild Thoughts - DJ Khaled Featuring Rihanna & Bryson Tiller - Westbury Road/We The Best | Epic
5 4 4 24 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran - Atlantic
6 5 5 12 Humble. - Kendrick Lamar - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope
7 6 6 18 Mask Off - Future - A-1/Freebandz | Epic
8 9 10 26 Congratulations - Post Malone Featuring Quavo - Republic
9 7 8 18 Something Just Like This - The Chainsmokers & Coldplay - Disruptor | Columbia
10 8 9 17 Stay - Zedd & Alessia Cara - Def Jam/Interscope
11 15 13 20 Believer - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
12 10 7 13 XO TOUR Llif3 - Lil Uzi Vert - Generation Now | Atlantic
13 11 14 21 Body Like A Back Road - Sam Hunt - MCA Nashville/MCA Nashville | Capitol
14 14 16 29 Redbone - Childish Gambino - mcDJ | Glassnote
15 13 12 22 Issues - Julia Michaels - Republic
16 18 17 11 Unforgettable - French Montana Featuring Swae Lee - Ear Drumner/Coke Boys/Bad Boy | Interscope/Epic
17 12 11 35 Say You Won't Let Go - James Arthur - Columbia
18 17 15 19 It Ain't Me - Kygo x Selena Gomez - Ultra/Ultra | RCA/Interscope
19 19 18 9 There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - Shawn Mendes - Island | Republic
20 23 45 6 Bad Liar - Selena Gomez - Interscope
21 20 21 11 Now Or Never - Halsey - Astralwerks | Capitol
22 25 26 7 Malibu - Miley Cyrus - RCA
23 21 23 24 Castle On The Hill - Ed Sheeran - Atlantic
24 24 28 8 Slow Hands - Niall Horan - Neon Haze | Capitol
25 27 31 9 Attention - Charlie Puth - OTTO | Atlantic

26 22 19 26 iSpy - KYLE Featuring Lil Yachty - Indie-Pop/Quality Control/Motown/Capitol | Atlantic
27 26 24 19 Rolex - Ayo & Teo - Columbia
28 16 – 2 2U - David Guetta Featuring Justin Bieber - What A Music/Parlophone/SchoolBoy/Raymond Braun | Atlantic/Def Jam
29 33 40 8 Magnolia - Playboi Carti - AWGE | Interscope
30 28 22 24 Location - Khalid - Right Hand | RCA
31 30 29 14 Swalla - Jason Derulo Featuring Nicki Minaj & Ty Dolla $ign - Beluga Heights | Warner Bros.
32 31 20 20 In Case You Didn't Know - Brett Young - BMLG
33 34 32 47 Closer - The Chainsmokers Featuring Halsey - Disruptor | Columbia
34 44 51 5 Strip That Down - Liam Payne Featuring Quavo - Hampton | Republic
35 36 43 13 Slippery - Migos Featuring Gucci Mane - Quality Control | 300
36 32 27 10 DNA. - Kendrick Lamar - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope
37 37 62 11 Everyday We Lit - YFN Lucci Featuring PnB Rock - Think It's A Game | Warner Bros.
38 35 30 32 Bad And Boujee - Migos Featuring Lil Uzi Vert - Quality Control | 300
39 38 36 32 Goosebumps - Travis Scott - Grand Hustle | Epic
40 39 41 37 24K Magic - Bruno Mars - Atlantic
41 42 44 12 Drowning - A Boogie Wit da Hoodie Featuring Kodak Black - Highbridge The Label | Atlantic
42 29 25 11 Sign Of The Times - Harry Styles - Erskine | Columbia
43 43 37 19 Hurricane - Luke Combs - River House | Columbia Nashville
44 40 38 18 Tunnel Vision - Kodak Black - Dollaz N Dealz | Atlantic
45 49 47 43 Scars To Your Beautiful - Alessia Cara - EP | Def Jam
46 51 50 13 God, Your Mama, And Me - Florida Georgia Line Featuring Backstreet Boys - BMLG
47 41 39 23 T-Shirt - Migos - Quality Control | 300
48 45 34 14 Passionfruit - Drake - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
49 46 35 17 Slide - Calvin Harris Featuring Frank Ocean & Migos - Fly Eye | Columbia
50 47 48 20 The Fighter - Keith Urban Featuring Carrie Underwood - Hit Red | Capitol Nashville

51 New 1 Feels - Calvin Harris Featuring Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry & Big Sean - Fly Eye | Columbia
52 56 59 12 First Day Out - Tee Grizzley - 300
53 52 52 12 Craving You - Thomas Rhett Featuring Maren Morris - Valory
54 55 56 5 Crying In The Club - Camila Cabello - SYCO | Epic
55 84 73 3 4 AM - 2 Chainz Featuring Travis Scott - The Real University | Def Jam
56 60 61 9 My Girl - Dylan Scott - Curb
57 48 46 10 The Cure - Lady Gaga - Streamline | Interscope
58 95 – 2 It's A Vibe - 2 Chainz Featuring Ty Dolla $ign, Trey Songz & Jhene Aiko - The Real University | Def Jam
59 61 63 7 Every Time I Hear That Song - Blake Shelton - Warner Bros. Nashville | WMN
60 54 55 20 Look At Me! - XXXTENTACION - XXXTENTACION/Bad Vibes Forever | EMPIRE Recordings
61 New 1 First Day Out - Kodak Black - Dollaz N Dealz | Atlantic
62 58 57 10 Love. - Kendrick Lamar Featuring Zacari - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope
63 65 70 6 Felices Los 4 - Maluma - Sony Music Latin
64 67 69 7 Drinkin' Problem - Midland - Big Machine
65 57 60 12 How Not To - Dan + Shay - Warner Bros. Nashville | WAR
66 69 68 8 Privacy - Chris Brown - RCA
67 59 66 11 You Look Good - Lady Antebellum - Capitol Nashville
68 68 65 8 1-800-273-8255 - Logic Featuring Alessia Cara & Khalid - Visionary | Def Jam
69 74 74 10 Loyalty. - Kendrick Lamar Featuring Rihanna - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope
70 94 84 15 Good Drank - 2 Chainz x Gucci Mane x Quavo - The Real University | Def Jam
71 64 58 19 Cold - Maroon 5 Featuring Future - 222 | Interscope
72 66 64 14 Portland - Drake Featuring Quavo & Travis Scott - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
73 72 72 9 Flatliner - Cole Swindell - Warner Bros. Nashville | WMN
74 73 79 7 Weak - AJR - AJR/AJR | BMG/RED Associated Labels
75 76 85 3 Small Town Boy - Dustin Lynch - Broken Bow

76 63 54 10 If I Told You - Darius Rucker - Capitol Nashville
77 77 77 6 No Promises - Cheat Codes Featuring Demi Lovato - 300
78 53 53 3 To The Max - DJ Khaled Featuring Drake - Young Money/Cash Money/We The Best | Republic/Epic
79 71 42 3 Down - Fifth Harmony Featuring Gucci Mane - SYCO | Epic
80 78 78 4 No Such Thing As A Broken Heart - Old Dominion - RCA Nashville
81 70 – 2 Love Galore - SZA Featuring Travis Scott - Top Dawg | RCA
82 75 76 5 Yours If You Want It - Rascal Flatts - Big Machine
83 New 1 Relationship - Young Thug Featuring Future - 300 | Atlantic
84 62 83 5 Swish Swish - Katy Perry Featuring Nicki Minaj - Capitol
85 87 81 8 Thunder - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
86 80 75 17 Losin Control - Russ - Diemon/Russ My Way | Columbia
87 97 – 7 Reminder - The Weeknd - XO | Republic
88 Re-Entry 4 My Old Man - Zac Brown Band - Southern Ground/Elektra | WAR
89 New 1 Feel It Still - Portugal. The Man - Atlantic
90 93 – 2 What Ifs - Kane Brown Featuring Lauren Alaina - Zone 4 | RCA Nashville
91 88 86 5 Most Girls - Hailee Steinfeld - Republic
92 91 97 3 Somebody Else Will - Justin Moore - Valory
93 79 – 2 Do I Make You Wanna - Billy Currington - Mercury Nashville
94 82 80 8 Wokeuplikethis* - Playboi Carti Featuring Lil Uzi Vert - AWGE | Interscope
95 81 93 4 Butterfly Effect - Travis Scott - Grand Hustle | Epic
96 89 – 2 Escapate Conmigo - Wisin Featuring Ozuna - WK | Sony Music Latin
97 92 99 3 Nobody Else But You - Trey Songz - Atlantic
98 90 96 6 Subeme La Radio - Enrique Iglesias Featuring Descemer Bueno, Zion & Lennox - Sony Music Latin
99 100 – 2 It Ain't My Fault - Brothers Osborne - EMI Nashville
100 New 1 Real Hitta - Plies Featuring Kodak Black - Slip-N-Slide | Atlantic

[Golden Bluebird]

Interesting fact about this week's Hot 100: there are two rap songs here named "First Day Out".

[truemusicreviews]

Jun 27, 2017 1:32:34 GMT -5 @zach808 said:

The thing about Rihanna this past year was that her first single off ANTI performed way better than most Rihanna singles, so I wasn't too surprised that her follow-up singles didn't do as well. These past couple years, chart runs throughout albums have been more front-loaded than usual, with 1 or 2 huge singles, then the album release, then nothing else coming close. If Work didn't spend so long at #1, Needed Me and Love On The Brain probably would've done a bit better, at least. Probably could've squeezed in 1 or 2 more #1 hits this era. She's definitely not done getting #1 hits.

Both songs still did really well. "Needed Me" had fantastic longevity, even though its peak could have been a bit better. "Love On The Brain" had a really weird rollout and didn't receive a music video, but still peaked in the Top 5, so that's not bad in my books.

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Why, in 2017, are we getting a new Plies hit? I thought this guy would've been irrelevant by now.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 26, 2017 22:57:51 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

Jun 26, 2017 22:14:38 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

I'm mixed on this issue. On the one hand, sure, it is rare. At the same time, he isn't front and center (i.e. the singer and what not) so it's probably easier for him than it is for singers over 40.

He barely contributes anything to his own songs at all, really.

*sigh* There's more to songs than the vocals.

[.It'sGriffin]

Jun 27, 2017 12:14:20 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Jun 26, 2017 22:57:51 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

He barely contributes anything to his own songs at all, really.

*sigh* There's more to songs than the vocals.

But in songs like Wild Thoughts the only thing that he contributes are his vocals.

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[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2017 4:08:23 GMT -5 jtd Thee Stallion said:

Never thought I'd see Plies on the Hot 100 ever again, lol.

Lol what is the new song?

[Deleted]

Jun 27, 2017 13:03:56 GMT -5 @pete said:

Jun 27, 2017 4:08:23 GMT -5 jtd Thee Stallion said:

Never thought I'd see Plies on the Hot 100 ever again, lol.

Lol what is the new song?

it's the #100

P.S. rip 420 posts

[kcdawg13]

I know this is off topic, but it's so strange that Hotline Bling never went #1. The song was so omnipresence in it's day, and is still being referenced today. It's definitely Drake's most memorable hit.

One Dance might've been bigger, but Hotline Bling was more memorable and will be the hit that everyone will remember.

[Kris]

When I think Drake I think Find Your Love/Best I Ever Had. The more recent stuff is noise to me.

On topic kind of though, are songs weighed more in relevance to all time charts now that the 52 week rule is in effect? Closer is already probably in all time territory but it can only have another 5 weeks charting (vs Radioactive for example which will have 30~ more weeks)

[85la]

^ If I understand your question correctly, I would think that for the purpose of the all-time charts, the weightings would be adjusted after the 52 week rule to give those songs slightly more points because they are cut off sooner.

[Gary]

May 9, 2017 15:44:53 GMT -5 Sherane Lamar said:

May 9, 2017 15:18:11 GMT -5 Gary said:

Random song that debuts at #99 requires less marketing now because people who read the flagship chart now knows that it is out and are then more likely to buy it

I call BS on this.

Playboi Carti just debuted for the first time at #91 and #100 this week. How many people in the world do you think will listen to Playboi Carti for the first time because they saw his song on the Hot 100? I'm going to say, probably... 100 people. Maybe 200. He'll gain maybe 500 extra streams on Spotify from hardcore chart nerds that otherwise would never have listened to his music.

How many people do you think will buy Playboi Carti's music this week specifically because they saw that it debuted on the Hot 100? I'm going to go with maybe a dozen people who habitually spend $1.29 on every song that debuts on the Hot 100 every week. Actually, I can't imagine anybody doing that. Because anybody who cares enough about the music industry to want to spend $13 a week on iTunes should also know that it would be way more cost efficient to just use Spotify. But regardless, I'm going to say that a dozen people will buy Playboi Carti songs from iTunes this week specifically because they saw him on the Hot 100.

Some huge loss for the record companies if the guy never charted.

Meanwhile, the type of people to post on Rap Genius, KTT, /r Hip-Hop heads, etc. have been talking about Playboi Carti for months now. Maybe even a full year. They talk about so many artists who have never charted. Or talk about artists a year before they charted for the first time. The people in charge of marketing have so much more important things to worry about then whether their song is going to be noticed by a handful of chart nerds who ignore everything that doesn't chart.

Debuting on the Hot 100 isn't going to give Playboi Carti any significant boost that he wouldn't already have if he was pushed down by songs like Uptown Funk.

It's a nice ego boost to think that a song or artist's inclusion onto the Hot 100 is a major benefit for that song on an industry standpoint. It gives purpose to what we do when we scour this chart up and down for hours and hours at a time. But the truth is, it's trivial. The hardcore chart nerds like us who look deep into the Hot 100 are astronomically outnumbered by the actual casual music fans who drive the industry.

Fast forward a few weeks later:

a once obscure act named Playboi Carti, is now at #29

[Top 40 Tracker]

July 8, 2017:

[Deleted]

I loved Plies in 07/08. His new songs are ok, but not compared to his 07 08 levels.

BTW, can STYB leave already?

[forg]

Jun 27, 2017 14:23:19 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I know this is off topic, but it's so strange that Hotline Bling never went #1. The song was so omnipresence in it's day, and is still being referenced today. It's definitely Drake's most memorable hit.

One Dance might've been bigger, but Hotline Bling was more memorable and will be the hit that everyone will remember.

Agree but I think it's Drake or his label's fault why it didn't reach #1. Didn't the music video an Apple Music exclusive for its first week and if I remember it right Apple Music didn't report to Nielsen the video's views (likely below expectations) so it didn't count on Hotline Bling's chart points? If it was on YouTube from the get go, could have been #1