Billboard Hot 100: 07/22/2017

[.It'sGriffin]

Can there be 3 new dongs in the top 10 next week (Redbone, Attention, TNHMB)?

[Golden Bluebird]

Jul 10, 2017 16:53:28 GMT -5 .It'sGriffin said:

Can there be 3 new dongs in the top 10 next week (Redbone, Attention, TNHMB)?

lol

[mcsteamy]

So the song that's suppsed to end Despacito's reign next week dropped one position? Lmao

[fhas]

Jul 10, 2017 14:14:52 GMT -5 Normi said:

Jul 10, 2017 14:08:56 GMT -5 feoba said:

Idk why everyone is overhyping upcoming releases.

Eminem isn't going to dent the charts unless he features Rihanna. I also think that Taylor Swift is gonna suffer a similar fate as The Weeknd, Katy Perry, & Lady Gaga were her new Music doesn't dent as much as it used to.

'Starboy' spent 19 weeks in the Top 10, the same amount of weeks as 'Can't feel my face'
'The Hills' had 21 but only because it was kind of a sleeper hit

Eminem won't go straight to #1.
Taylor Swift might.
And TOP... Lmao what? heavydirtysoul didn't even chart although they were very hyped then

Eminem's the 12th most streamed artist on Nielsen's 2017 Mid-Year Report. The Marshall Mathers LP2 was released in 2013. Also, Lose Yourself was Top 100 on iTunes and Deezer last week. Slim's lead single has a chance to debut at #1 if Despacito isn't getting 60,000+ points.

[Dylan :)]

Jul 10, 2017 17:12:01 GMT -5 fhas said:

Jul 10, 2017 14:14:52 GMT -5 Normi said:

'Starboy' spent 19 weeks in the Top 10, the same amount of weeks as 'Can't feel my face'
'The Hills' had 21 but only because it was kind of a sleeper hit

Eminem won't go straight to #1.
Taylor Swift might.
And TOP... Lmao what? heavydirtysoul didn't even chart although they were very hyped then

Eminem's the 12th most streamed artist on Nielsen's 2017 Mid-Year Report. The Marshall Mathers LP2 was released in 2013. Also, Lose Yourself was Top 100 on iTunes and Deezer last week. Slim's lead single has a chance to debut at #1 if Despacito isn't getting 60,000+ points.

Not necessarily. Eminem's last #1 was The Monster in late 2013/early 2014, and of his last 7 releases, the highest peaking ones were #22 and #45. Sure, if he teams up with Rihanna he might easily get one. But as we learned from Lady Gaga last autumn and Katy Perry this spring, no one is guaranteed a #1 debut, or even a top 10 debut

I know you might not necessarily be saying this but this is directed at anyone who still feels that way

[fhas]

Jul 10, 2017 17:18:18 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Jul 10, 2017 17:12:01 GMT -5 fhas said:

Eminem's the 12th most streamed artist on Nielsen's 2017 Mid-Year Report. The Marshall Mathers LP2 was released in 2013. Also, Lose Yourself was Top 100 on iTunes and Deezer last week. Slim's lead single has a chance to debut at #1 if Despacito isn't getting 60,000+ points.

Not necessarily. Eminem's last #1 was The Monster in late 2013/early 2014, and of his last 7 releases, the highest peaking ones were #22 and #45. Sure, if he teams up with Rihanna he might easily get one. But as we learned from Lady Gaga last autumn and Katy Perry this spring, no one is guaranteed a #1 debut, or even a top 10 debut

I know you might not necessarily be saying this but this is directed at anyone who still feels that way

I'm saying this because I see a lot of people talking about Taylor like she's the only person who can dethrone Despacito. Em's not guaranteed a #1 debut, not even Adele's guaranteed. 

[fhas]

TWIL is the 7th song to spent at least 17 weeks in the top 3. Bruno's the only artist with two songs:

#1 Mark Ronson feat. Bruno Mars — Uptown Funk (2014/15): 21 weeks
The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey — Closer (2016/17): 21 weeks
#3 Santana feat. Rob Thomas — Smooth (1999/2000): 19 weeks
#4 Toni Braxton — Un-Break My Heart (1996/97): 18 weeks
Mariah Carey — We Belong Together (2005): 18 weeks
#6 Meghan Trainor — All About That Bass (2014): 17 weeks
Bruno Mars — That's What I Like (2017): 17 weeks

[Dylan :)]

Jul 10, 2017 17:32:10 GMT -5 fhas said:

Jul 10, 2017 17:18:18 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Not necessarily. Eminem's last #1 was The Monster in late 2013/early 2014, and of his last 7 releases, the highest peaking ones were #22 and #45. Sure, if he teams up with Rihanna he might easily get one. But as we learned from Lady Gaga last autumn and Katy Perry this spring, no one is guaranteed a #1 debut, or even a top 10 debut

I know you might not necessarily be saying this but this is directed at anyone who still feels that way

I'm saying this because I see a lot of people talking about Taylor like she's the only person who can dethrone Despacito. Em's not guaranteed a #1 debut, not even Adele's guaranteed. 

Oh yeah, I know, which is what the last line was about :) Eminem could easily debut at #1. Adele could, Taylor could, maybe even Ariana. I remember before Shape Of You some people laughed at me saying Ed might debut at #1. It is fun guessing what might dethrone the current #1 song, but sometimes people come across (I don't mean you) like they know what they are saying is going to happen. In 2014, there were #1s from a kids cartoon, a ballad from a relatively unknown singer, a rap song from a female Australian rapper who had never had a US hit and a reggae song from a random Canadian band. Taylor Swift was also blocked from the #1 spot with one of her biggest singles by a random girl no one had ever heard of before. My point is, before those songs existed or even when they were charting, I and I assume many others had no idea those would end up being #1, but they did. A great example is whenever everyone was convinced Uptown Funk would beat the record, and then See You Again came out of the blue and stopped it. Who knows - Sorry Not Sorry might be radio gold and debut at #1, Ellie's new single might be the #1 peaking follow up to Love Me Like You Do, Versace On The Floor might be performed somewhere and shoot up to #1. There is no way to tell when a #1 song's reign will end before it actually ends.

I'm rambling now but I hope my point can be seen somewhere in there  :kii:  And sorry if this and my previous comments are coming off as "I know everything and I am the best", I don't mean that at all, I am just trying to offer a different view in here

[jayhawk1117]

Jul 10, 2017 16:34:47 GMT -5 @holden said:

I have a feeling that Shape of You, That's What I Like, Despacito can all pass 30 weeks in top 10 mark. It's crazy to think that before the chart year of 2017, only 3 song got that, and now Closer (achieved on 3/11/17), Shape of You (4 weeks to go!), TWIL (9 weeks to go) and Despacito (18 weeks to go! Coincidentally it's gonna consummate it on the very last week of this chart year) can all add to this very exclusive club and make it 7

I mean shape of you is probably spending those 30 weeks in the top 5. That's What I Like is at 3 with 9 weeks left, so it's chances are pretty good, Despacito is probably spending like 5 more weeks at number one so it could unless it pulls a see you again and just plummets out of the top 10.

[rainie]

Obviously predicting what the next #1 is gonna be is very hard and potentially impossible since we don't know what will be released a month or two from now. This said, at the moment *it looks like* the next #1 will be Wild Thoughts based off what songs are currently charting. Initially it did look like it could knock off Despacito within a couple weeks -- that obviously didn't happen but let's not be so black and white about it. Despacito will eventually begin to lose momentum and Wild Thoughts has great streaming with plenty of room to grow on radio (and sales, to a lesser extent). We don't know what the charts will look like down the road but I think that if nothing comes in the way, Wild Thoughts will take over #1 from Despacito within a month and a half or so.

Now WT could be blocked from #1 by some new release, but I honestly don't think that's crazy likely given how some of the bigger artists have done with their singles lately. Taylor Swift *could* do it and probably has the best shot of the artists rumored to be releasing something in the next month, however I think female pop star syndrome and *especially* the fact that her music isn't on Spotify will hinder her. I certainly could be wrong but I don't see her getting a #1 debut, though she will likely debut in the top 5, or at least top 10. The single could obviously grow from there and reach #1, but those two factors I just mentioned I think will hinder her even more in the long run. It wouldn't shock me if her single went #1, but I certainly wouldn't count on it. Eminiem is somewhat of a wildcard -- yes he's a massive artist and The Monster went #1 after debuting top 5 (iirc), but think about how many flop singles he's had since then. His single will likely get a big first week and probably a top ten debut, but unless it's something in the vein of The Monster with a big name pop star, I don't see it going #1. I think it's even less likely he will release something like that as his first single. If you look back at his last two (solo) albums, he saved the big pop Rihanna collab for second and I don't see a reason to think he wouldn't do that this time, especially given that he seems to be shifting his career away from that type of song if anything. As for TOP, forget it -- they'll probably get a top 20 debut, but I'd give it a 50/50 shot of doing anything on pop (if not it'll probably pull a Green Light where it's still successful on alt but less so then most of the singles from their last era) and even if it does do something on pop, it'll take a bit of time to rise to the top (hehe) ala Heathens.

Honestly I think Wild Thoughts' biggest threat at #1 is some random hip hop song becoming big, primarily off a meme. We saw Black Beatles and Bad and Boujee explode out of nowhere, the same could easily happen with some song we have never heard. Of the songs currently charting there are a couple that could in theory explode in momentum (Unforgettable seems like the best shot imo) but predicting when/if that'll happen and to which song is a total crapshoot.

[Deleted]

Jul 10, 2017 16:34:47 GMT -5 @holden said:

I have a feeling that Shape of You, That's What I Like, Despacito can all pass 30 weeks in top 10 mark. It's crazy to think that before the chart year of 2017, only 3 song got that, and now Closer (achieved on 3/11/17), Shape of You (4 weeks to go!), TWIL (9 weeks to go) and Despacito (18 weeks to go! Coincidentally it's gonna consummate it on the very last week of this chart year) can all add to this very exclusive club and make it 7

SOY might even (i have to say begrudgingly that the right word might be likely) break the top 10 record, only a few months after Closer tied it!

[Au$tin]

Jul 10, 2017 19:03:47 GMT -5 rainie said:

*especially* the fact that her music isn't on Spotify

Not that I'm disagreeing with your post, but Taylor is back on Spotify. She put her entire discography back up the same night Witness released. Her lead single will likely be up when it is released, and she'll likely do what Adele did when it comes to releasing new stuff to Spotify.

[rainie]

Jul 10, 2017 19:55:38 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jul 10, 2017 19:03:47 GMT -5 rainie said:

*especially* the fact that her music isn't on Spotify

Not that I'm disagreeing with your post, but Taylor is back on Spotify. She put her entire discography back up the same night Witness released. Her lead single will likely be up when it is released, and she'll likely do what Adele did when it comes to releasing new stuff to Spotify.

What did Adele do? Did she only put up singles or something?

Yeah 1989 is up but that I think was mainly to hinder Witness. I don't think it'll be taken down anytime soon, but I certainly don't think it's a guarentee her new single will be put up there.

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8 weeks until we have a new hot 100 top1 record.

[MilesW1998]

Jul 10, 2017 19:59:53 GMT -5 rainie said:

Jul 10, 2017 19:55:38 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Not that I'm disagreeing with your post, but Taylor is back on Spotify. She put her entire discography back up the same night Witness released. Her lead single will likely be up when it is released, and she'll likely do what Adele did when it comes to releasing new stuff to Spotify.

What did Adele do? Did she only put up singles or something?

Yeah 1989 is up but that I think was mainly to hinder Witness. I don't think it'll be taken down anytime soon, but I certainly don't think it's a guarentee her new single will be put up there.

Her entire discography is on Spotify, not just the songs from 1989.

[Au$tin]

Jul 10, 2017 19:59:53 GMT -5 rainie said:

Jul 10, 2017 19:55:38 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Not that I'm disagreeing with your post, but Taylor is back on Spotify. She put her entire discography back up the same night Witness released. Her lead single will likely be up when it is released, and she'll likely do what Adele did when it comes to releasing new stuff to Spotify.

What did Adele do? Did she only put up singles or something?

Yeah 1989 is up but that I think was mainly to hinder Witness. I don't think it'll be taken down anytime soon, but I certainly don't think it's a guarentee her new single will be put up there.

Adele only released her singles until the album had been out for like 7 months.

All of Taylor's stuff is back on Spotify (and everywhere else, too), not just 1989. Tim McGraw through New Romantics, it's all there!

[Deleted]

Jul 10, 2017 19:03:47 GMT -5 rainie said:

We saw Black Beatles and Bad and Boujee explode out of nowhere, the same could easily happen with some song we have never heard. Of the songs currently charting there are a couple that could in theory explode in momentum (Unforgettable seems like the best shot imo) but predicting when/if that'll happen and to which song is a total crapshoot.

I don't feel like Bad and Boujee hit number one because of a meme. Lyrical memes are only shared if the song that contains the lyric is already popular.

Many rap-haters just use memes to discredit rap hits (not saying you're one, just pointing out where the argument originated from)

[Gary]

9 weeks at #1 or more by time period

mid 1955-mid 1958 (rock era - pre Hot 100) -- 2
mid 1958-1959 -- 1
1960s -- 2
1970s -- 1
1980s -- 3
1990s -- 11
2000s -- 17
2010s -- 15

[forg]

I didn't expect That's What I Like to last this long in the top 5 especially since Bruno is not a Spotify powerhouse yet. Glad it hit #1 even for a single week.

[truemusicreviews]

Considering that "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" did so well with a fading artist and a well-despised movie tied to it, Taylor's not done. I could see her lead hitting #1 pretty easily.

[Deleted]

Jul 10, 2017 20:53:09 GMT -5 Gary said:

9 weeks at #1 or more by time period

mid 1955-mid 1958 (rock era - pre Hot 100) -- 2
mid 1958-1959 -- 1
1960s -- 2
1970s -- 1
1980s -- 3
1990s -- 11
2000s -- 17
2010s -- 15

9 is a manipulative number. we all know that the 1990s had the most 14 weekers and it had a ton of massive hits

[Zach]

Jul 10, 2017 22:35:33 GMT -5 @alec935 said:

Jul 10, 2017 20:53:09 GMT -5 Gary said:

9 weeks at #1 or more by time period

mid 1955-mid 1958 (rock era - pre Hot 100) -- 2
mid 1958-1959 -- 1
1960s -- 2
1970s -- 1
1980s -- 3
1990s -- 11
2000s -- 17
2010s -- 15

9 is a manipulative number. we all know that the 1990s had the most 14 weekers and it had a ton of massive hits

9 is also a relevant number considering Despacito.

[Deleted]

Jul 10, 2017 22:54:42 GMT -5 Zach said:

Jul 10, 2017 22:35:33 GMT -5 @alec935 said:

9 is a manipulative number. we all know that the 1990s had the most 14 weekers and it had a ton of massive hits

9 is also a relevant number considering Despacito.

not really. we all know despacito will cross double digits which is the standard metric

it's also gonna challenge mariah for #1 but that's my opinion and has nothing to do with this argument

[Zach]

Jul 10, 2017 23:03:36 GMT -5 @alec935 said:

Jul 10, 2017 22:54:42 GMT -5 Zach said:

9 is also a relevant number considering Despacito.

not really. we all know despacito will cross double digits which is the standard metric

it's also gonna challenge mariah for #1 but that's my opinion and has nothing to do with this argument

But what Despacito is going to achieve next week or in the next 5/7 weeks has nothing to do with this argument either. Anyway, *directs us both back to a more on topic discussion*.

[Enigma.]

Jul 10, 2017 15:32:50 GMT -5 Choco said:

Hot 100 has been a mess this year. I understand why streaming was included but these multiple 10-week-number-one songs per year are a bore.

Summer is usually quiet, it's been pretty much the norm for years to have a 8-12 week number one during summer.

[85la]

I don't know why there's all this hate at those of us who predicted Wild Thoughts had a good shot at #1. For the previous two weeks, at the time it seemed like it had the best shot of all songs currently charting. It debuted at #4 and rose in position the following week, making solid gains in two metrics. Plus, I still don't think its chance is over, it might take a little longer though.

[aerodynamite]

Jul 10, 2017 16:55:19 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

Jul 10, 2017 16:53:28 GMT -5 .It'sGriffin said:

Can there be 3 new dongs in the top 10 next week (Redbone, Attention, TNHMB)?

lol

All three are by male artists, too. 

[Deleted]

Updated

www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2017-07-22

[Harx]

New peaks this week

Unforgettable (#10)
There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (#14)
Attention (#15)
Now Or Never (#18)
Feels (#26)
Strip That Down (#28)
Slippery (#29)
Everyday We Lit (#35)
Craving You (#39)
My Girl (#43)
Versace On The Floor (#56)
Felices Los 4 (#61)
Feel It Still (#81)

[Deleted]

I didn't even realize that Wild Thoughts got greatest gain in radio and still dropped from #3
#1 in 2 weeks is a coming