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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Oct 27, 2017 3:15:27 GMT -5
I think Taylor is making a play for the heterosexual teenage/college male demographic here. They're not going to buy or listen to her music when they can watch her music videos on mute for free when they take their phones/laptops/tablets into the bathroom to for their daily take off your pants and jacket. They were never here for her music nor will they be in the future. But as a sexually woke bisexual male, she does absolutely nothing for me.
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Post by fullonrainstorm on Oct 27, 2017 3:22:53 GMT -5
This reaction from a comic book/sci fi aficionado illustrates my point exactly.
I feel like this era, Taylor is deliberately talking past her core audience and addressing the mainstream male demographic :
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Post by Kologne on Oct 27, 2017 3:35:27 GMT -5
I like the edge and the references in the visual.
However That song is such a punch in the face, why on the earth is the music video THAT STATIC???? That ruined the potential of such an epic video, I'm a bit disappointed. Might be my least favorite Taylor MV directed by Kahn
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Oct 27, 2017 3:35:33 GMT -5
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Post by deepston on Oct 27, 2017 3:53:09 GMT -5
This will be a visual album and she'll announce the next single when reputation drops, calling it now.
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Post by Rocky on Oct 27, 2017 3:55:39 GMT -5
It's pretty, but boring.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 27, 2017 3:57:54 GMT -5
Is it just me or did the trailer imply there'd be some kind of actual battle between the two Taylors? All that happened is that Dark!Taylor stood and stared at Light!Taylor shifting into different forms for two minutes before the latter busted out of a glass box. And they're both Transformers. End video.
...that's it? :sip2:
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Post by beachboi69 on Oct 27, 2017 4:14:06 GMT -5
Unfortunately the video turned out to be over the top special effects with nothing going on. She basically just showed up and did nothing.
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Post by deepston on Oct 27, 2017 4:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by beachboi69 on Oct 27, 2017 4:15:09 GMT -5
This will be a visual album and she'll announce the next single when reputation drops, calling it now. Hopefully different directors for the other videos.
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Post by beachboi69 on Oct 27, 2017 4:18:28 GMT -5
I have never seen Taylor look more beautiful. She has incredible screen presence and has movie star charisma. EDIT : Based on this MV alone, she plays a more convincing and appealing superheroine than any of the mainstream actresses I've seen thus far. I would bet good money that Taylor has some juicy superhero/villain role in a major feature film lined up in her near future. This comment made me laugh so hard.
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Post by beachboi69 on Oct 27, 2017 4:20:23 GMT -5
Is she launching her own video game? If not, then what the hell was that video...? Lmfao bites tongue
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Oct 27, 2017 4:21:47 GMT -5
This exercise in narcissism is becoming too much, even for me. I'll give this chick one last chance with the album release before I let my stan card expire. Hopefully she has a "The Edge Of Glory" up her sleeve.
"Look How You Made Me Flop" is still the best release of this era so far.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 27, 2017 4:23:18 GMT -5
All well and good if this is meant to be the video's meaning, but they still did a pathetic job of actually conveying this message IMO. :sip2:
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Post by born on Oct 27, 2017 4:27:09 GMT -5
Well, I love Joseph and his work with Taylor but I do think that she needs to work with some other directors. She can't be having Joseph Kahn-directed videos for the rest of her career lol
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Post by deepston on Oct 27, 2017 4:28:46 GMT -5
Guys chill, she's portraying her life... That's what an artist does.
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Post by deepston on Oct 27, 2017 4:34:57 GMT -5
This song isn't even about haters, why the hell does the video have to be? Basically everything she's released since 1989 has been about either haters or her cheating with some hot guy. This is not about the haters either. It's about being a completely different person to the media because of the backlash. She just wants to be herself. Think about the cage as Taylor's mind, she shatters it and comes through as her robotic persona starts to gain life, killing her old persona and finally being able to be herself. I think this is a hint that reputation will be a very intimate album.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 27, 2017 4:35:01 GMT -5
This song isn't even about haters, why the hell does the video have to be? Basically everything she's released since 1989 has been about either haters or her cheating with some hot guy. She is Taylor, Thats why.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Oct 27, 2017 4:44:09 GMT -5
The video is by no means terrible or awful, by any stretch of the imagination. The plot development and clarity of the symbolism could've been better but the overall visual aesthetic of the video was incredible. Feels somewhat underwhelming still, by Taylor standards at this point, but still shits all over the majority of videos out. Let's be real. lol The theme was left field for the lyrics, but honestly I liked that. The last thing I wanna see is a literal visual representation of her chasing a crush.
Still, not sure this is going to propel the song to a higher Hot 100 peak (or least of all the pole position) without the added something needed to spruce up the freshness of the track itself which has been lingering for quite a bit already. We will see.
Meanwhile: a visual album would be everything!
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Post by Ling-Ling on Oct 27, 2017 4:48:03 GMT -5
The music video looks like a million bucks (it probably cost several, so duh). But it falls completely flat thematically and just in terms of holding attention. The trailer was better.
She'd get more mileage promoting this album out of one hyped up sit down interview than all of these expensive videos.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Oct 27, 2017 4:49:34 GMT -5
This song isn't even about haters, why does the video have to be? Basically everything she's released since 1989 has been about either haters or her cheating with some hot guy. It's about how the failing #fakenews media has portrayed her. Never have we seen such blatant LIES spread before. Sad!
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 27, 2017 5:10:55 GMT -5
This song isn't even about haters, why does the video have to be? Basically everything she's released since 1989 has been about either haters or her cheating with some hot guy. I feel like this is kind of an issue I have with a lot of this campaign and the material so far, combined with the statement that she just threw on some black and went for the Country Club definition of "dark" backing tracks. But ultimately, this is the same ground she covered on Blank Space, and without the humor and personality behind it. The only part where she's displayed that was the end of the video to the lead single, and it stands out so much especially now because none of the other steps around the campaign have shown it. Taylor's strengths (besides being White and rich) were her curiosity, her stellar songwriting, and her ability to communicate her POV. Her albums followed this thread too. Fearless was an expansion from her country steps to more mass-mainstream, Speak Now was a successful exercise in writing an album completely solo, Red was her exploring many sounds, and 1989 was her proper focus on Pop and Global megastardom. And throughout every step, the fact that she also took the time to explain her approach in interviews. People have brought up Beyoncé and Adele's relative reserve on this front at times on this board, but where Taylor really stood out over everything was bridging her jumbo-sized image and popularity with a very personal and detailed approach. That's largely missing here, and there's a noticeable attempt to try to make up for it with a massive budget. I'll be very surprised if I dislike the album, because I can pick several songs off of any of her albums that were the best releases of their respective years. I won't like it as much as SN or Red, because having two tracks like this and Gorgeous is enough to put the ceiling below those masterworks, but she'll be welcomed with a huge debut regardless. Any major blips that come as a result of all this won't really be felt until the next campaign anyway. Yeah, she still has the crazies who will support everything without a thought, but that's besides the point here. She's withdrawn from her core strengths enough so far that those gaps add up to a noticeable total. There's a lot of flash and hype, which is understandable for a star of her magnitude coming off of her biggest release ever, but yet it still comes across as a bit dull, which was never the case before. I'm still so-so on this being a visual album because she was still filming less than a month before release, which goes against her hyper-detail leave-no-stone-unturned approach, but a mini-film of some tracks does sound plausible if this is meant to be a jumping point.
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 27, 2017 5:13:41 GMT -5
POP: 20 18 TAYLOR SWIFT Ready For It 6170 5459 711 33.336
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HOT AC: 24 21 TAYLOR SWIFT Ready For It 1379 943 436 7.311
+69 Spins +20 Bullet +0.200 Audience
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Post by NeRD on Oct 27, 2017 5:38:04 GMT -5
Maybe there are some hidden messages in there?
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 27, 2017 5:44:05 GMT -5
This song isn't even about haters, why does the video have to be? Basically everything she's released since 1989 has been about either haters or her cheating with some hot guy. Right? So this is basically a retread of everything else she's done. And I'm already over the whole "killing her former self" thing. We get it.
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Post by vsw on Oct 27, 2017 5:44:25 GMT -5
It's expensive. It's pretty. It's tiresome. That's pretty much it.
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 27, 2017 5:45:27 GMT -5
Guys chill, she's portraying her life... That's what an artist does. Because her life is *so* dark and hard, right? Gurl please.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 27, 2017 5:51:56 GMT -5
Guys chill, she's portraying her life... That's what an artist does. Because her live is *so* dark and hard, right? Gurl please.
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cool people call songs "joint" which is little inappropriate to me cuz i think of an elbow or someth
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 27, 2017 6:11:06 GMT -5
extremely intentional, not surprised tho
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Oct 27, 2017 6:19:00 GMT -5
So tired of this petty shit. The world is so fucked up, just move on from your haters Taylor. Enough.
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