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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 14, 2017 8:23:18 GMT -5
Ah, forgot about New Edition. NKOTB seriously had multiple members have top ten solo hits? I swear Jordan Knight was the only one to snag a Top 10. Joey McIntyre hit with "Stay The Same" On the same year even. Joey McIntyre and Jordan Knight had their songs hit the Top 10 a few weeks apart from each other in spring of 1999 peaking at #10. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 14, 2017 15:58:22 GMT -5
20 years ago was the late 90s when the charts often featured hip-hop (Biggie, etc), country crossover (LeAnn Rimes, Shania Twain, etc), 'teen pop' (Britney, BSB, etc), R&B/neo-soul (Erykah Badu, R Kelly, etc), female singer/songwriters (Sheryl Crow, Sarah McLachlan, etc), AC ballads (Celine, some of Mariah, Diane Warren ballads), mainstream rock (Sister Hazel, Marcy Playground, Alanis Morissette, Eric Clapton), and even dance (Real McCoy, Gina G, Robyn). We also saw the Latin movement starting by then with Ricky Martin and others. I'm not sure how you can get much more diverse. Most of that is available today too. Streaming favors hip hop so that tends to dominate but you also have everything else including Latin In a technical sense, pretty much all genres of music are always 'available.' I was talking about the Hot 100 and more so the diversity of popular music. I think the 90s were overall much more eclectic than the current state of popular music. There was regularly a wide range of styles in popular music, and there was usually more than just 1-2 artists charting within the genre (i.e. not a one-off, which in a sense doesn't count toward an overall trend). |
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Post by felipe on Sept 14, 2017 17:26:53 GMT -5
Were the old folks during the 80s complaining about the music and stating how The Beatles and Elvis were so much better? Just wondering if this only has happened since I was born So you think it's just a matter of nostagia stopping us from seeing the true potential of 2017's artists, and that with time people will realize the likes of Drake and Ariana Grande are on the same league with Beatles, Elvis, Michael and Madonna? |
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Post by forg on Sept 14, 2017 17:48:33 GMT -5
Were the old folks during the 80s complaining about the music and stating how The Beatles and Elvis were so much better? Just wondering if this only has happened since I was born So you think it's just a matter of nostagia stopping us from seeing the true potential of 2017's artists, and that with time people will realize the likes of Drake and Ariana Grande are on the same league with Beatles, Elvis, Michael and Madonna? Looking in hindsight will always be a different perspective especially music a person grew up with, there's that unconscious bias at times because it had more personal connection. As for Drake and Ariana Grande reaching that kind of legendary status? For now definitely not but we will never know in the future because it will need a lot of time before we can say that. |
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Post by felipe on Sept 14, 2017 18:03:16 GMT -5
So the people who say music was better in decade X only do so because of nostalgia and there's no way to have a discussion about the topic that's not around "You only prefer Michael Jackson because you're old"?
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Post by garrettlen on Sept 14, 2017 18:11:33 GMT -5
I'm genuinely shocked that all the One Direction boys were able to notch Top 20 hits (well, almost all, sorry Luis). And with Niall nearing the Top 10, four of the boys would have a Top 10 hit under their belts. That's unheard of from a boy band, most only have one member that has a successful solo career (Micheal Jackson, Justin Timberlake). I think the only other boy band to have multiple members get solo hits was The Beatles, but I'm pretty sure it was just McCartney and Lennon. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Beatles were not a boy band. The term didn't even exist in their day. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 14, 2017 18:20:02 GMT -5
I'm genuinely shocked that all the One Direction boys were able to notch Top 20 hits (well, almost all, sorry Luis). And with Niall nearing the Top 10, four of the boys would have a Top 10 hit under their belts. That's unheard of from a boy band, most only have one member that has a successful solo career (Micheal Jackson, Justin Timberlake). I think the only other boy band to have multiple members get solo hits was The Beatles, but I'm pretty sure it was just McCartney and Lennon. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Beatles were not a boy band. The term didn't even exist in their day. Would they be a boy band by today's definition though? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 19:12:21 GMT -5
So the people who say music was better in decade X only do so because of nostalgia and there's no way to have a discussion about the topic that's not around "You only prefer Michael Jackson because you're old"? Ok the 80s was the best and people who prefer to listen today's music are tasteless. I myself like the 80s, and I'm about to go listen to the best song of that decade: Physical |
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Post by 85la on Sept 14, 2017 19:29:23 GMT -5
Were the old folks during the 80s complaining about the music and stating how The Beatles and Elvis were so much better? Just wondering if this only has happened since I was born So you think it's just a matter of nostagia stopping us from seeing the true potential of 2017's artists, and that with time people will realize the likes of Drake and Ariana Grande are on the same league with Beatles, Elvis, Michael and Madonna? You seem to keep bringing up examples of major stars today who are actually not the highest sellers or best chart performers and who can sort of be thought of as the "cheesy" or Disney-esque ones, like Ariana Grande and Selena Gomez. There are other stars with much bigger numbers and pretty near universal acclaim who are just as big and famous.... Adele, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, or even Justin Timberlake and yes, Kanye, and others who are starting to become big and on the road to legendary status, like Kendrick Lamarr and Ed Sheeran. Especially Beyonce, while maybe just shy of the level of Madonna or Michael Jackson, she is arguably the biggest star of the past 15 years and has definitely been a spectacle. If you can't see how she is legendary, you must living in a different universe. |
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Post by Leo ✔ on Sept 14, 2017 19:45:56 GMT -5
Lmao @ Despacito falling 3 spots
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 14, 2017 20:13:30 GMT -5
The Beatles were not a boy band. The term didn't even exist in their day. Would they be a boy band by today's definition though? Absolutely. "a pop group composed of attractive young men whose music and image are designed to appeal primarily to a young teenage audience" Literally fits The Beatles to a tee. |
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Post by forg on Sept 14, 2017 20:17:03 GMT -5
So the people who say music was better in decade X only do so because of nostalgia and there's no way to have a discussion about the topic that's not around "You only prefer Michael Jackson because you're old"? Of course the discourse is not restricted to ONLY and NO WAY. It's not black and white. People just wants to point out that there is the tendency to romanticize the past and undermine the present. |
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Post by Kris on Sept 14, 2017 20:41:41 GMT -5
Despacito down to #14 on airplay, now without discount will probably drop half its sales, how is it still so high on streaming? Are people in the US really still watching the video that much? Last I checked on Spotify it was like #27 and the original out of the top 50.
Curious how many spots it will fall this week.
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Post by ry4n on Sept 14, 2017 20:49:53 GMT -5
Joey McIntyre hit with "Stay The Same" On the same year even. Joey McIntyre and Jordan Knight had their songs hit the Top 10 a few weeks apart from each other in spring of 1999 peaking at #10. Even more impressively, it happened 7 years after NKOTB's last top 20 hit. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 14, 2017 21:08:16 GMT -5
Would they be a boy band by today's definition though? Absolutely. "a pop group composed of attractive young men whose music and image are designed to appeal primarily to a young teenage audience" Literally fits The Beatles to a tee. Oh damn, I was expecting someone to argue against it so I could throw Hanson at them lol |
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Post by flextamcsignals on Sept 14, 2017 21:41:06 GMT -5
How long until Mi Gente hits the top 20?
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Post by felipe on Sept 14, 2017 21:44:51 GMT -5
So you think it's just a matter of nostagia stopping us from seeing the true potential of 2017's artists, and that with time people will realize the likes of Drake and Ariana Grande are on the same league with Beatles, Elvis, Michael and Madonna? You seem to keep bringing up examples of major stars today who are actually not the highest sellers or best chart performers and who can sort of be thought of as the "cheesy" or Disney-esque ones, like Ariana Grande and Selena Gomez. There are other stars with much bigger numbers and pretty near universal acclaim who are just as big and famous.... Adele, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, or even Justin Timberlake and yes, Kanye, and others who are starting to become big and on the road to legendary status, like Kendrick Lamarr and Ed Sheeran. Especially Beyonce, while maybe just shy of the level of Madonna or Michael Jackson, she is arguably the biggest star of the past 15 years and has definitely been a spectacle. If you can't see how she is legendary, you must living in a different universe. Aren't Drake and Ariana Grande two of the biggest stars at the moment? It's not like I'm choosing random names here. And I don't think Gaga, Kanye or Timberlake are names that come to mind when we're talking about music stars of 2017. Adele and Beyoncé are huge though and that's not for debate. You can count on them to release relevant music twice a decade. |
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Post by 85la on Sept 14, 2017 22:25:15 GMT -5
You seem to keep bringing up examples of major stars today who are actually not the highest sellers or best chart performers and who can sort of be thought of as the "cheesy" or Disney-esque ones, like Ariana Grande and Selena Gomez. There are other stars with much bigger numbers and pretty near universal acclaim who are just as big and famous.... Adele, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, or even Justin Timberlake and yes, Kanye, and others who are starting to become big and on the road to legendary status, like Kendrick Lamarr and Ed Sheeran. Especially Beyonce, while maybe just shy of the level of Madonna or Michael Jackson, she is arguably the biggest star of the past 15 years and has definitely been a spectacle. If you can't see how she is legendary, you must living in a different universe. Aren't Drake and Ariana Grande two of the biggest stars at the moment? It's not like I'm choosing random names here. And I don't think Gaga, Kanye or Timberlake are names that come to mind when we're talking about music stars of 2017. Adele and Beyoncé are huge though and that's not for debate. You can count on them to release relevant music twice a decade. Well, I was referring to the time period of roughly the mid-2000s and on (well after the NSYNC/early Britney era your referenced in your first post about this topic). I guess Gaga's record sales might not actually be what they were earlier, but I would call the Superbowl Halftime Show and headlining Coachella as pretty big. Also funny you mention Adele and Beyonce releasing twice a decade, when first of all this is factually inaccurate (Beyonce released 3 albums last decade and 3 this decade so far, and Adele's career has not spanned an entire decade yet, but has released 3 albums in the first 9 years of her career), and Michael Jackson released only two albums in each of the '80s and '90s (if you would even consider HIStory a full new studio album). Not that I'm saying that's necessarily a downside. Artists can release albums every few years but still make a major impact. |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Sept 14, 2017 23:19:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 23:32:57 GMT -5
I was getting concerned for BY because of 1800, this better work out
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Sept 15, 2017 0:22:43 GMT -5
Were the old folks during the 80s complaining about the music and stating how The Beatles and Elvis were so much better? Just wondering if this only has happened since I was born So you think it's just a matter of nostagia stopping us from seeing the true potential of 2017's artists, and that with time people will realize the likes of Drake and Ariana Grande are on the same league with Beatles, Elvis, Michael and Madonna? Exactly. The Weeknd, Bruno Mars; those two are in fact on par with them. There is also Ariana Grande, already a great, with a mass of potential, TØP, who are getting there, Adele, who... Well, although 25 wasn't especially good, 21 was one of the best albums that I've ever heard, on par, if not better than The Beatles' or Michael Jackson's work. Plus, there is Kendrick, possibly the beat mainstream artist in the history of music. |
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Post by garrettlen on Sept 15, 2017 1:11:17 GMT -5
The Beatles were not a boy band. The term didn't even exist in their day. Would they be a boy band by today's definition though? Nope. They wrote most of their own music and played their own instruments. Unusual enough in the early 60's, but unusual even today with most "boy bands." |
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Post by Joe1240 on Sept 15, 2017 2:22:38 GMT -5
The only real differences in options bewteen now and 11 years ago was streaming. 11 years ago in 2006, although stores were rapidly shrinking, they still existed and as today, CD sales were on rapid decline. Even today if you look hard enough, physical CDs are stll available for purchase. The format of consumption in 2006 showing the biggest growth was digital downloads, on basically many of the same services as today. This was around the time Apple's Ipod got really popular and people made their own playlists based on what they liked back in 2006 and this was before streaming had a impact. It made people search for other artists to listen to besides the radio artists and explore non-mainstream artists etc. And about Award Shows not being popular anymore nowdays,nobody watches TV live anymore unless it is a sporting event. If people want to see their favorite star's performance,they seek it out on YouTube to watch. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 6:59:21 GMT -5
Performances usually still give a song a boost, just look at TWIL and 1800 for example
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Post by felipe on Sept 15, 2017 7:14:26 GMT -5
So, in a nutshell, I got the impression most people here think current artists are as good as there has ever been and that they're still putting out great performances and music videos, right?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 15, 2017 7:16:18 GMT -5
Would they be a boy band by today's definition though? Nope. They wrote most of their own music and played their own instruments. Unusual enough in the early 60's, but unusual even today with most "boy bands." So why was Hanson referred to as a boy band? |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 15, 2017 7:19:46 GMT -5
So, in a nutshell, I got the impression most people here think current artists are as good as there has ever been and that they're still putting out great performances and music videos, right? It's all relative. So much of it comes down to what people are familiar with and what people have experienced. In this case, ignorance is bliss. Personally, I recognize that the Beatles had a lot of firsts and played a huge role in shaping popular music today. Many 60s artists had that. That's hard to beat. I don't think there have been many artists since the 70s or 80s to have that kind of impact, but at the same time, I can think of a lot of artists from the 90s, 2000s and even 2010s that I like much better and would much rather listen to. If I grew up on 70s or 80s music as a child of the 90s, instead of music of the present day, my experience would likely be very different. I get the impression most people can say the same thing. We like what we like. What we think is good differs from person to person. It's not that much of a problem, is it? |
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Post by garrettlen on Sept 15, 2017 8:42:42 GMT -5
Nope. They wrote most of their own music and played their own instruments. Unusual enough in the early 60's, but unusual even today with most "boy bands." So why was Hanson referred to as a boy band? Were they? Don't know. Hanson are a bit past my time. LOL They probably shouldn't be if they do more than sing and dance. I always think of boy bands as (despite the name) a group of young males who don't play any instruments, and sing and dance (often doing choreographed steps) to their music either in live performances or in music videos. Look at it this way, are the Rolling Stones a boy band? Are the Who? Are Pink Floyd? Led Zeppelin? All of them are groups from the 60's who played their own instruments and wrote their own music, just like the Beatles. |
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