Billboard Hot 100: 11/4/2017

[imbondz]

The charts become much less important and irrelevant when labels manipulate them like they do.

[forg]

Pink's airplay continues to do well. The song's chances on hitting top 10 relies on it a lot to make up for streaming Ditto Maroon Five

[jayhawk1117]

So since Gorgeous isn't the official single and neither is Ready for it and LWYMMD is dying, it seems like they're just gonna wait til the album drops for the second single..

[badrobot]

Oct 21, 2017 12:39:26 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

So since Gorgeous isn't the official single and neither is Ready for it and LWYMMD is dying, it seems like they're just gonna wait til the album drops for the second single..

Maybe they're waiting to see what song(s) get the most attention/love from fans after the album drops?

This situation reminds me vaguely of Katy Perry's Prism, where basically fan reaction determined that Dark Horse was gonna be a big single, which I'm not sure they had anticipated.

[Golden Bluebird]

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Overall AI (Top 20) - 10/22/2017
1. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (156.973) (+2.095)
2. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (144.699) (-0.058)
3. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (126.885) (-0.679)
4. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (120.201) (-0.201)
5. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (114.581) (-0.885)
6. (=) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (113.745) (+1.134)
7. (+1) P!NK - What About Us (111.365) (+0.802) ***
8. (-1) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (110.403) (-1.094)
9. (=) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (109.564) (+3.626)
10. (+1) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (101.223) (+1.369)
11. (-1) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (100.022) (+0.041)
12. (+1) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (95.609) (+0.433)
13. (-1) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer (95.577) (+0.284)
14. (+1) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (93.623) (+2.288)
15. (+1) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (88.803) (+1.642)
16. (-2) TAYLOR SWIFT - Look What You Made Me Do (88.180) (-6.785)
17. (=) THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This (84.163) (-0.363)
18. (=) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (82.273) (+0.617)
19. (=) KESHA - Praying (79.985) (+0.706)
20. (+1) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (77.591) (-0.205)

Others:
27. (+3) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (63.364) (+2.471)
29. (=) KIP MOORE - More Girls Like You (62.817) (+1.412)
31. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (62.347) (+1.590)
37. (+1) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (51.432) (+2.661)
47. (+2) HALSEY - Bad At Love (40.701) (+1.011)

[vocech123]

Sorry Not Sorry really got almost 4M audience wow, i wonder if it'll be able to hit #1 on Overall radio.

[Someone]

simmnfierzig‘s final predictions


Final predictions

1 Rockstar 463 (=)
2 Bodak Yellow 367 (=)
3 1-800-273-8255 304 (=)
4 Mi Gente 275 (+2)
5 Feel It Still 274 (=)
6 Thunder 267 (+2)
7 Sorry Not Sorry 238 (+2)
8 Too Good At Goodbyes 232 (-1)
9 Look What You Made Me Do 224 (-5)
10 Bank Account 215 (+4)
11 Unforgettable 213 (-1)
12 Attention 212 (=)
13 What About Us 212 (+10)
14 Believer 210 (-1)
15 I Get The Bag 208 (+9)
16 Despacito 205 (-5)
17 What Lovers Do 198 (=)
18 Havana 195 (+8)
19 Perfect 194 (+3)
20 Rake It Up 191 (-5)

21 Strip That Down 187 (-5)
22 Shape Of You 177 (-4)
23 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back 173 (-4)
24 Slow Hands 171 (-3)
25 What Ifs 156 (+2)
26 Young Dumb & Broke 155 (+3)
27 Praying 148 (+1)
28 Gucci Gang 148 (+4)
29 I Fall Apart 145 (+2)
30 That's What I Like 144 (=)
31 Wild Thoughts 142 (-6)
32 Bad At Love 140 (+8)
33 New Rules 132 (+11)
34 Something Just Like This 131 (=)
35 Humble 128 (-2)
36 Congratulations 128 (+1)
37 When It Rains It Pours 126 (+2)
38 XO Tour Lif3 124 (-3)
39 Body Like A Back Road 120 (-1)
40 Love Galore 119 (-4)

41 Do Re Mi 117 (+4)
42 The Weekend 115 (+5)
44 No Limit 113 (+8)
43 Location 113 (-3)
45 Crew 110 (+1)
46 Say You Won't Let Go 107 (-4)
47 Unforgettable Thomas Rhett 106 (+2)
48 No Promises 106 (-5)
49 Silence 97 (+5)
50 Ready For It 95 (+3)
51 Every Little Thing 93 (+14)
52 Butterfly Effect 93 (=)
53 Small Town Boy 93 (-3)
54 Greatest Love Story 87 (+7)
55 Pills & Automobiles 86 (+4)
56 The Way Life Goes 82 (+1)
57 Roll In Peace 80 (+1)
58 Love So Soft 77 (+12)
59 The Race 75 (-3)
60 Jocelyn Flores 74 (+2)

61 How Long 70 (-1)
62 Transportin' 70 (+1)
63 Relationship 67 (+3)
64 It's A Vibe 67 (+4)
65 Glorious 66 (-1)
66 Plain Jane 66 (+20)
67 Dusk Till Dawn 66 (+4)
68 Heartache On The Dance Floor 65 (-1)
69 Light It Up 64 (+6)
70 More Girls Like You 63 (+7)
71 Go Flex 60 (+17)
72 All The Pretty Girls 59 (-3)
73 Let Me Go 59 (+12)
74 **** Love 58 (=)
75 Escapate Conmingo 58 (+1)
76 Like I Loved You 58 (+8)
77 I'll Name The Dogs 57 (+5)
78 Fix A Drink 56 (+3)
79 Sauce It Up 56 (+8)
80 Let You Down 53 (debut)

81 Losing Sleep 53 (+11)
82 I Could Use A Love Song 53 (+1)
83 Sky Walker 51 (+7)
84 Curve 49 (re-entry)
85 Friends 49 (-12)
86 B.E.D. 49 (-6)
87 Lights Down Low 48 (+8)
88 Smooth 47 (+11)
89 Questions 46 (=)
90 Too Hotty 46 (+7)
91 Round Here Buzz 45 (+5)
92 Feels 44 (-14)
93 Pray 43 (-38)
94 Do I Make You Wanna 43 (+6)
95 Good Old Days 42 (re-entry)
96 They Don't Know 41 (-17)
97 Something New 41 (re-entry)
98 Meant To Be 41 (re-entry)
99 Undefeated 40 (re-entry)
100 Say A' 40 (-6)

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

November 3, 1962

01 02 He's a Rebel - The Crystals (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 04 Only Love Can Break a Heart - Gene Pitney
03 03 Do You Love Me - The Contours
04 01 Monster Mash - Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers
05 06 All Alone Am I - Brenda Lee
06 17 Big Girls Don't Cry - The Four Seasons
07 09 Gina - Johnny Mathis
08 18 Limbo Rock - Chubby Checker
09 15 Next Door To An Angel - Neil Sedaka
10 20 Return To Sender - Elvis Presley


November 4, 1967

01 01 To Sir With Love - Lulu (3rd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 07 Soul Man - Sam & Dave
03 06 It Must Be Him - Vicki Carr
04 05 Expressway (To Your Heart) - The Soul Survivors
05 08 Your Precious Love - Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
06 03 Never My Love - The Association
07 10 Incense And Peppermints - Strawberry Alarm Clock
08 09 (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman - Aretha Franklin
09 19 The Rain, The Park And Other Things - The Cowsills
10 15 Please Love Me Forever - Bobby Vinton


November 4, 1972

01 05 I Can Clearly See Now - Johnny Nash (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 03 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues
03 01 My Ding-A-Ling - Chuck Berry
04 06 Freddie's Dead (Theme From Superfly) - Curtis Mayfield
05 02 Burning Love / It's a Matter Of Time - Elvis Presley
06 07 Garden Party - Rick Nelson & The Stone Canyon Band
07 14 I'll Be Around - The Spinners
08 15 I'd Love You To Want Me - Lobo
09 10 Good Time Charlie's Got The Blues - Danny O'Keefe
10 08 Ben - Michael Jackson


November 5, 1977

01 01 You Light Up My Life - Debby Boone (4th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Nobody Does It Better - Carly Simon
03 04 Boogie Nights - Heatwave
04 03 That's Rock N' Roll - Shaun Cassidy
05 06 Brick House - The Commodores
06 08 It's Ecstasy When You Lay Down Next To Me - Barry White
07 07 I Feel Love - Donna Summer
08 10 Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue - Crystal Gayle
09 11 Baby, What a Big Surprise - Chicago
10 12 Heaven On The 7th Floor - Paul Nicholas

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

November 6, 1982

01 01 Up Where We Belong - Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Who Can It Be Now? - Men At Work
03 06 Heart Attack - Olivia Newton-John
04 04 I Keep Forgettin' (Every Time You're Near) - Michael McDonald
05 02 Jack And Diane - John (Cougar) Mellencamp
06 03 Eye In The Sky - The Alan Parsons Project
07 10 Heartlight - Neil Diamond
08 08 You Can Do Magic - America
09 13 Gloria - Laura Branigan
10 14 Truly - Lionel Richie


November 7, 1987

01 03 I Think We're Alone Now - Tiffany (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 02 Causing a Commotion - Madonna
03 04 Mony Mony (Live) - Billy Idol
04 06 Little Lies - Fleetwood Mac
05 01 Bad - Michael Jackson
06 12 (I've Had) The Time Of My Life - Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes
07 09 Breakout - Swing Out Sister
08 10 Brilliant Disguise - Bruce Springsteen
09 07 Let Me Be The One - Expose
10 11 It's a Sin - The Pet Shop Boys


November 7, 1992

01 01 End Of The Road - Boyz II Men (13th and final week at #1)
02 04 How Do You Talk To An Angel - The Heights
03 03 I'd Die Without You - P.M. Dawn
04 02 Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough - Patty Smyth & Don Henley
05 05 Erotica - Madonna
06 06 Jump Around - House Of Pain
07 09 Rhythm Is a Dancer - Snap!
08 18 Rump Shaker - Wreckx-N-Effect
09 11 Real Love - Mary J. Blige
10 14 What About Your Friends - TLC


November 1, 1997

01 01 Candle In The Wind 1997 / Something About The Way You Look Tonight - Elton John (4th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 You Make Me Wanna... - Usher
03 03 How Do I Live - LeAnn Rimes
04 04 4 Seasons Of Loneliness - Boyz II Men
05 05 All Cried Out - Allure feat. 112
06 09 My Love Is The Shhh! - Somethin' For The People feat. Trina & Tamara
07 08 Foolish Games / You Were Meant For Me - Jewel
08 07 Quit Playing Games (With My Heart) - The Backstreet Boys
09 06 Honey - Mariah Carey
10 11 Tubthumping - Chumbawumba

19 NE I Don't Want To Wait - Paula Cole

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

November 2, 2002

01 01 Dilemma - Nelly feat. Kelly Rowland (10th and final week at #1)
02 06 Lose Yourself - Eminem
03 04 Hey Ma - Cam'ron feat. Juelz Santana, Freekey Zekey & Toya
04 05 Work It - Missy Elliott
05 03 A Moment Like This - Kelly Clarkson
06 02 Gangsta Lovin' - Eve feat. Alicia Keys
07 08 Luv U Better - LL Cool J
08 07 Underneath It All - No Doubt feat. Lady Saw
09 12 The Game Of Love - Santana feat. Michelle Branch
10 11 Sk8er Boi - Avril Lavigne


November 3, 2007

01 01 Crank That (Soulja Boy) - Soulja Boy (7th and final week at #1)
02 22 Kiss Kiss - Chris Brown feat. T-Pain
03 03 Apologize - Timbaland feat. OneRepublic
04 04 No One - Alicia Keys
05 05 Bubbly - Colbie Caillat
06 02 Stronger - Kanye West
07 11 Cyclone - Baby Bash feat. T-Pain
08 10 Good Life - Kanye West feat. T-Pain
09 15 Hate That I Love You - Rihanna feat. Ne-Yo
10 07 The Way I Are - Timbaland feat. Keri Hilson


November 3, 2012

01 01 One More Night - Maroon 5 (6th of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Gangnam Style - PSY
03 04 Some Nights - fun.
04 05 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - Taylor Swift
05 08 Die Young - Ke$ha
06 06 As Long As You Love Me - Justin Bieber feat. Big Sean
07 07 Too Close - Alex Clare
08 11 Diamonds - Rihanna
09 12 Let Me Love You (Until You Learn To Love Yourself) - Ne-Yo
10 09 Blow Me (One Last Kiss) - P!nk

13 NE State Of Grace - Taylor Swift


November 5, 2016

01 01 Closer - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey (10th of 12 weeks at #1)
02 02 Starboy - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
03 03 Heathens - Twenty One Pilots
04 04 Let Me Love You - DJ Snake feat. Justin Bieber
05 06 Broccoli - D.R.A.M. feat. Lil' Yachty
06 05 24K Magic - Bruno Mars
07 07 Cold Water - Major Lazer feat. Justin Bieber & MO
08 10 Side To Side - Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj
09 56 Don't Wanna Know - Maroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar
10 08 Treat You Better - Shawn Mendes

[Envoirment]

Oo wow, "What About Us" not far off the top 10 points-wise. Perhaps it can get there in a week or two with its increasing airplay? A discount would help too.

[inverse]

OMG Look What You Made Me Do is gonna drop below Something Just Like This. Remember when that song was in the top 10 like 4 months ago? I bet it's gonna drop below Scars To Your Beautiful soon

[rickroller]

I suppose, there in Reputation would be more stronger hit-single, than just LWYMMD

[vocech123]

Oct 22, 2017 13:36:32 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Oo wow, "What About Us" not far off the top 10 points-wise. Perhaps it can get there in a week or two with its increasing airplay? A discount would help too.

It could go #10 even this week because the difference in points is very low. 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Regarding Rockstar, according to YouTube Music Insights, the YouTube video posted by Republic was #3 for last week, just behind Despacito.

[rimetm]

That's not what Insights tracks. It's using every play of the song from all Content ID'd video or official uploads in a region and showing the results; the video it shows as the icon is just demonstrative; that's why sometimes no video at all shows up or the wrong video (this happens a lot when I check Japan's Insights).

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^I'm aware that the counts are not necessarily only from the video displayed, although in Rockstar's case its probably mostly from it. If you click the listing mentioned, it does lead you to the video in question. And yeah, I am aware that the charts are sometimes messed up with no video icon or title related to them. Regardless of all these issues, I do think the numbers that are shown are what gets reported to Nielsen, in the end.

[CF15]

I know it probably won't reach #1, but is there any chance for "Feel It Still" to at least reach #3? I would be really happy if it became the "Radioactive" of 2017.

[Deleted]

Oct 22, 2017 18:58:28 GMT -5 CF15 said:

I know it probably won't reach #1, but is there any chance for "Feel It Still" to at least reach #3? I would be really happy if it became the "Radioactive" of 2017.

I don't think it's peaked yet, so it has a chance

[Au$tin]

Oct 21, 2017 9:00:37 GMT -5 imbondz said:

The charts become much less important and irrelevant when labels manipulate them like they do.

So I guess that means the charts have always been unimportant and irrelevant.

[divasummer]

^^^ LoL, you think the charts are easy to manipulate now. ^^^^
When there weren't computers etc and billboard were getting there lists from record stores and radio stations directly I think there was abit of manipuation going on.
Just ask Donna Summer who wasn't even aware at one time her album was released bootleg or not.
Some labels would hide sales figures for they wouldn't have to pay artists etc etc.
Chart manipulations were probably a lot worse back in the day. lol

[imbondz]

True. But I didn’t know about it. The more I know how much they are manipulated the less fun chart watching becomes for me.

[Choco]

I hope Pink cracks the top 10. I doubt she'll be able to do it if sales fall now that the album is out.

[Gary]

Oct 23, 2017 6:56:40 GMT -5 Gary said:

Question of the day. If charts are that “unimportant and irrelevant “ why do we keep coming back week after week to discuss the charts?

[Golden Bluebird]

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Overall AI (Top 20) - 10/23/2017
1. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (159.332) (+2.359)
2. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (144.414) (-0.285)
3. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (125.854) (-1.031)
4. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (120.280) (+0.079)
5. (+1) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (114.705) (+0.960)
6. (-1) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (113.837) (-0.744)
7. (=) P!NK - What About Us (112.527) (+1.162)
8. (+1) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (112.424) (+2.860)
9. (-1) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (108.847) (-1.556)
10. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (102.195) (+0.972)
11. (=) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (99.745) (-0.277)
12. (=) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (96.229) (+0.620)
13. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer (95.368) (-0.209)
14. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (95.018) (+1.395)
15. (=) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (88.901) (+0.098)
16. (+2) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (83.362) (+1.089)
17. (=) THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This (83.123) (-1.040)
18. (-2) TAYLOR SWIFT - Look What You Made Me Do (83.019) (-5.161)
19. (=) KESHA - Praying (80.281) (+0.296)
20. (=) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (77.743) (+0.152)

Others:
24. (+3) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (66.019) (+2.655)
28. (+3) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (63.573) (+1.226)
35. (+2) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (53.329) (+1.897)
39. (=) LANCO - Greatest Love Story (47.650) (+1.274)
50. (+1) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It (38.181) (+1.004)

[inverse]

That's a tiny amount of radio for a #3...

[deepston]

Taylor's RFI just hit top 50 and it wasn't even a single until today lol

[KeepDeanWeird]

Oct 23, 2017 3:32:08 GMT -5 divasummer said:

^^^ LoL, you think the charts are easy to manipulate now. ^^^^
When there weren't computers etc and billboard were getting there lists from record stores and radio stations directly I think there was abit of manipuation going on.
Just ask Donna Summer who wasn't even aware at one time her album was released bootleg or not.
Some labels would hide sales figures for they wouldn't have to pay artists etc etc.
Chart manipulations were probably a lot worse back in the day. lol

So true. There's a reason why Motown didn't certify singles and albums until the mid or late 1980s.
Record stores were the worst. Ever wonder why Dark Side of the Moon was the only catalog album to continually chart during the pre-Soundscan era? And spins v what radio stations reported were quite enlightening during the 'test' period.
Today with the three primary components readily accessible, it's a lot more difficult to do. Promotions/discounts/getting on streaming playlists happen, but the spins, sales and streams are real.

[Au$tin]

Oct 23, 2017 5:44:19 GMT -5 imbondz said:

True. But I didn’t know about it. The more I know how much they are manipulated the less fun chart watching becomes for me.

Well, then you'll be happy to know that the charts are far less calculated and manipulated now than ever. Even just 10 years ago, labels would withhold songs from iTunes until the time was right to snatch that #1 since sales were so easy to manipulate back then.

[Golden Bluebird]