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Post by Sambalada on Dec 8, 2017 15:28:28 GMT -5
I actually forgot mylo ever defended Leo or anyone, or even posted at all during D1, lol.
My biggest suspicion is in Leo as well. He seems to be playing, what cynthia called, a 'show up just enough to keep a target off my back" game.
But then again, that could be easily be said for my gameplay too.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 8, 2017 21:41:02 GMT -5
I hope this works in this End of Day.
Az: He is town 100%, I hope I'm not wrong but againg, going with the fact he tried to stop will's wagon on day 1, and how he have been super cooperative with town.
Webi: I still saying that he is town too, but also I'm worried about the fact that he is an experimented player on this kind of mafia games, but he is the most cooperative for town imo.
Sam: I'm sure that he is mafia. He's trying so hard to do the good elf investigate me, I know I'm town and he knows he is mafia, so, deviate the attention on him and focus on me is a good strategy. He is the most suspicious of the remaining players. (I probably doing the same mistake that gravey do the last time when he said codex and barbie were scum but he doesn't know how to explain properly)
Cinthya: She is not that suspicious as Sam, but I feel like she could scum. The only connecting factor I can see between them is the fact that they are focusing on me.
Greentoo: We already know that he is the good elf, I hope he doesn't be killed this night and we can know what he got thanks by his reading.
Mylo: He is mafia and is lynched today. We don't have to worry about him.
gravey: Null. This block wasn't helpful for us.
Kunt: I think he is town, but cynthia pointed that mylo never said something about Sam and Kunt, so, this is something we have to think about him. Mafia trying to don't stablish any connections between them. He is pretty cooperative for town, but same as Webi, he is an experimented player.
Zac: Null. I can't stablish connections between him and somebody else.
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Post by Web on Dec 8, 2017 21:50:58 GMT -5
have been really busy trying to cram in songs for an Alt rankdown so can't really offer detailed thoughts right now but looking back at Leo and Sam's recent posts they look like they're pretty clearly trying to distance from each other. Could also be a natural reaction of them being newer and giving a hard look to an accuser but it seems like their scum reads just popped up in the last page or two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 23:36:11 GMT -5
Ok something just clicked.
greentoo is probably going to be blocked anyway, but on the off chance he is not, he should look at Az, Kunt, or Zac.
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Post by Sambalada on Dec 9, 2017 0:48:08 GMT -5
It's okay. You all can hang me D3. And if I am revealed to be town, you can just go after someone who is very optimistic that I am mafia the day after.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 9, 2017 1:15:42 GMT -5
My preference on who to cop would be:
1. Sam/Leo (their banter is... weird. Could be completely innocent but it would be nice to clear one of them though. I'd lean toward Leo since he's had less suspicion thrown his way from others than Sam has) 2. gravey (we honestly just need to know his affiliation because we know he'll be confusing as hell with his posts once he's allowed to talk again) 3. Cynthia (not sure what connection she is making to try and get a cop on Kunt or especially Az - something about that strikes me as odd) 4. Kunt (not the most suspicious yet to me) 5. Web (see above, but I'd give him a slightly less chance of being scum than Kunt) 6. Az (really wouldn't waste your time with Az)
Obviously up to you though greentoo - You did good on N1 so I trust your judgment lol. As long as the doctor didn't save you on N1, I feel good about your chances of survival!
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Post by Web on Dec 9, 2017 1:21:22 GMT -5
Sam: I'm sure that he is mafia. He's trying so hard to do the good elf investigate me, I know I'm town and he knows he is mafia, so, deviate the attention on him and focus on me is a good strategy. He is the most suspicious of the remaining players. (I probably doing the same mistake that gravey do the last time when he said codex and barbie were scum but he doesn't know how to explain properly) this reads as really tryhard to me, how do you "know" he's mafia? Just seems really transparent to me, like you know he'll flip mafia and then that will clear you since you were really focusing on him. Could you quote specific examples from his posts that make him look bad? I'm not tunneling in on a Sam/mylo/Leo mafia team since it seems almost too easy and it makes it really easy for experienced maf players (including a blocker who may not have picked a side yet) to gang up on the newer players but this recent exchange between Leo and Sam seems super manufactured.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 9, 2017 1:27:46 GMT -5
sorry guys I wasn't able to update this earlier but Day Phase is over, I will have the write up posted shortly.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 9, 2017 1:33:57 GMT -5
DAY TWO All Aboard the Polar Express!
The riders have all come together as a whole to throw Mylo13 💜 from the train!
Mylo13 💜 you have been found guilty! As Bonnie Walsh your time in this game has come to an end!
After Bonnie was thrown from the train the Spirit of Krampus left her body and disappeared back into the train and kicking one of his evil elves out!
You guys have successfully removed Krampus from the game, though he isn't gone entirely yet as he is now taken over someone else.
It is now Night 2! Those with night roles you have until 11 pm EST tomorrow to get me your choices for your roles. Please no posting in here until I begin Day Two! (NOTE: I will be out of work sometime around 11pm EST tomorrow night so I may not get to post this right at 11).
DEADLINE: Friday, December 8th at 11pm EST
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):Myloninja13 [8] ~ greentoo Web Az Paynter @touch Sambalada @antigonerising zaclord 🌈 Leo ✔ @walker9 Mylo13 💜NO VOTE: INACTIVE STRIKES: @antigonerising : 1 ROLES:The ConductorSanta ClausGood ElfKrampusEvil Elves4x TownspeopleIDENTITY'S:Adam Bowman Chad Watson Chester Garner Eloise Nguyen Lance McCormick Laura Campbell Lena Newton Pete Brown Ruben KleinFINAL ROLES: 10: @myloninja: Bonnie Walsh ~ Krampus 11: willapted33 : Della Perez ~ Townsperson
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 10, 2017 6:35:46 GMT -5
Sorry again everyone, not feeling good and went to bed before posting the day 3, will have that posted shortly
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Dec 10, 2017 6:51:36 GMT -5
DAY THREE All Aboard the Polar Express!
As the riders all gather in the dining cart, they all quickly realize that someone is missing!
While they search high and low it is obvious that Krampus has gotten to that person. That person is Pete Brown, aka the Conductor!
Az Paynter has been killed off and is out of the game.
Also, Sambalada has been silenced by the blocker!
Day Three begins now, majority is 5 to get a lynch!
DEADLINE: Tuesday, December 12th at 11pm EST
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):NO VOTE: greentoo Web @touch Sambalada @antigonerising zaclord 🌈 Leo ✔ @walker9 INACTIVE STRIKES: @antigonerising : 1 ROLES:Santa ClausGood ElfKrampusEvil Elves4x TownspeopleIDENTITY'S:Adam Bowman Chad Watson Chester Garner Eloise Nguyen Lance McCormick Laura Campbell Lena Newton Ruben KleinFINAL ROLES: 9: Az Paynter : Pete Brown ~ The Conductor 10: Mylo13 💜 : Bonnie Walsh ~ Krampus 11: willapted33 : Della Perez ~ Townsperson
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Post by greentoo on Dec 10, 2017 7:28:36 GMT -5
Ok guys, I investigated Leo, and his allegiance is good. Who does that leave us with? thewebinator, cynthia, zaclord, gravey, Sam and Kunt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 10:07:50 GMT -5
Obligatory 'does anyone else want to claim good elf' check
Might be a good day to have a full role claim, from most to least suspicious. I think I was floating around the middle of people's lists but I'm willing to go first if everyone is down for that.
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Post by Web on Dec 10, 2017 10:11:28 GMT -5
Okay so those night actions are weird, not sure why greentoo wasn't killed or at least silenced but I'll take a cleared player. I'll dig back through his game later with the knowledge that Leo is town later. Some thoughts: Welcome back to the land of the speaking @walker9 , please post a full list of your thoughts on every player at your earliest convenience. I'm not sure what this block says about the blocker's affiliation, Sam is definitely my biggest scum read and was getting a lot of heat yesterday so it could be a tactic to from a maf blocker to protect a mafia member, but it could also be a town blocker trying to pick the safest target to block? Idk, wouldn't want to be in the shoes of a town blocker since it doesn't seem like there's a benefit to silencing a big scum target. Still better to operate under the assumption that there's a mafia blocker for now since if they flipped to the mafia then we're still in mylo (mislynch and lose). Also going back to that Leo-Web-greentoo maf team that cynthia proposed and Sam endorsed, there are now 0/3 mafia on that team. This makes me slightly more suspicious of cynthia but the fact that Sam jumped onto that so eagerly and without justification gives me a huge scum read on him. Question to castleoblivion26 , is Krampus the one that carries out the kill? aka If Krampus is blocked will the night kill fail to go through? I forget if we confirmed this yesterday or not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 10:18:32 GMT -5
Az never did let up off his suspicion of Gravey. ("You can quote me on this.") Must have looked at him N1. If Az looked at Gravey, and greentoo looked at mylo, yet we ended up with no nightkill...that means Gravey can't be Santa (b/c whoever he tried to protect would have been vulnerable). vote: Gravey
No shade to Leo but you gotta step up your townie game in the future b/c you were looking scummy as hell bruh
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Post by Web on Dec 10, 2017 10:18:52 GMT -5
Obligatory 'does anyone else want to claim good elf' check Might be a good day to have a full role claim, from most to least suspicious. I think I was floating around the middle of people's lists but I'm willing to go first if everyone is down for that. I don't think that's a good idea yet, we'll only get one more cleared player out of doing this (Santa) since the blocker could be sided with maf, and then the two remaining maf will just hide under townsperson claims. We should at least get some discussion out about suspicions based on our new information before everyone starts to claim, could potentially catch maf building cases on cleared town players later. Is your logic that we're probably in mylo so we need all the info we can get? I'm not sure I'm following because it seems really early, we have three days and we should try to avoid shutting discussion down like we did with greentoo's report D2 as much as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 10:26:28 GMT -5
Az never did let up off his suspicion of Gravey. ("You can quote me on this.") Must have looked at him N1. If Az looked at Gravey, and greentoo looked at mylo, yet we ended up with no nightkill...that means Gravey can't be Santa (b/c whoever he tried to protect would have been vulnerable). vote: GraveyNo shade to Leo but you gotta step up your townie game in the future b/c you were looking scummy as hell bruh there is a scenario where gravey could be town but I'll wait on him to explain himself. Anyway my post yesterday about looking into Az, Kunt, or zac - I was hoping the conductor would also take note of that and look into one of the three. Problem is I thought the conductor was someone else who had already looked into one of the three so that idea flopped fantastically lol. At any rate I'm actually glad greentoo didn't listen b/c I was so ready to come in here and plop a vote down on Leo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 10:29:07 GMT -5
Obligatory 'does anyone else want to claim good elf' check Might be a good day to have a full role claim, from most to least suspicious. I think I was floating around the middle of people's lists but I'm willing to go first if everyone is down for that. I don't think that's a good idea yet, we'll only get one more cleared player out of doing this (Santa) since the blocker could be sided with maf, and then the two remaining maf will just hide under townsperson claims. We should at least get some discussion out about suspicions based on our new information before everyone starts to claim, could potentially catch maf building cases on cleared town players later. Is your logic that we're probably in mylo so we need all the info we can get? I'm not sure I'm following because it seems really early, we have three days and we should try to avoid shutting discussion down like we did with greentoo's report D2 as much as possible. No, we can scratch the full claim now. My first, just-woke-up train of thought was 'wtf I swear if greentoo has been fucking with us with this doc claim' but then I realized the real doc would have called him out on it. And also I went back and looked at Az's posts. He breadcrumbed to his gravey investigation. So we don't need any claiming yet, we just need to pressure gravey.
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Post by Web on Dec 10, 2017 10:40:52 GMT -5
I can only presume the blocker picked Gravey because of his non-commital wishy washy D1 posts and concluded that Gravey was something. I still believe Gravey to be something (namely, scum) and Castle confirming Krampus getting blocked would negate the kill makes me think there's some validity to my initial D2 theory that Gravey = Krampus. But you can quote me on this; Gravey is suspicious. Him not even dropping in to place a vote is shady af. Went back to see where you grabbed that Az-gravey quote from and found the post, you're right that this looks like a pretty clear indicator of his report from N1. So the nightkill makes a little more sense now, not only was Az a town read by nearly every player but the maf might have picked up on this quote and determined his power role. I'll join and Vote: gravey
for now until he comes back with his list of reads/analysis from his slumber, but I'm definitely pulling off him and pursuing other targets if everyone starts to vote for him. I would have voted Sam to start the day, but I don't see a point in that yet since he can't respond. (however I don't think lynching him should be off the table D3 like it was with gravey D2)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 10:57:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm also thinking now that I had a huge blind spot in assuming the roleblocker chose to join Krampus, or was undecided. I think that he decided to side with town, with his targets indicating who he finds most suspicious.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 11:13:38 GMT -5
You guys will have to wait like 8 hours for my analysis I won't be home and will be busy.
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Post by greentoo on Dec 10, 2017 11:28:03 GMT -5
That quote from Az alone makes me very suspicious of gravey. Because at the time no one seemed to pick up on that quote, gravey probably realised he had a chance to kill off Az and no one would know why.
Vote: Gravey
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 11:49:18 GMT -5
Actually I have some time for an hour, let me see what I can knock out, long post coming in like 30 min to hour.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 12:04:54 GMT -5
Alright I will say that everyone who I thought was scum ended up town and vice versa.
My strongest Town lead from the start was on Mylo, he ended up scum.
My strongest Scum lead was on Leo, according to green, he ended up town.
Also had scum leans on Az, ended up town.
Now are we all assuming that the Roleblocker is legit Scum now and not Town?
I had scum leans on Sam too but now he is roleblocked so Idk.
Basically my scum team IMO was Az, Leo, and Sam, and apparently I got it all wrong, so I have to go and redo everything and every thought since I am all over the place and being wrong on everything SMH.
Righting Leos and Greens name off since they are Town so I will focus on the rest of the players. I am thinking of now a Cynthia and thewebinator as scum, and if not them then Kunt as the other choice if roleblock is Mafia.
Cynthia Rose - She been coming in and out and flying under the radar with hardly anyone focusing on her. Usually the ones being the leaders and stuff end up scum, again Im going with my gut.
Sam - Well, since he is silenced now he is hard to tell if the Maf roleblocker blocked him or the Town roleblocker did.
thewebinator - Dunno why but something seems off of him this game. He doesn't seem to be pushing on others too much as he did last game and seems to be more going with the flow.
Kunt - Yes he has been giving good advice but I think he made some minor slips a few times, but Idk if that is much of an indicator now if he is scum or not.
zaclord - I am still a bit null on him as he is always hard to read.
AGAIN, I DONT FUCKIN KNOW THIS GAME HAS BEEN CONFUSING FOR ME, YALL ARE BETTER OFF ASKING ME QUESTIONS ON STUFF AND ME ANSWERING THEN ME TRYING TO GIVE A RECAP OR WHATEVER.
Sorry, just this time I been more confused than usual. Vote - Cynthia Rose
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Post by Web on Dec 10, 2017 12:11:10 GMT -5
sooooo is no one outside of (Leo or greentoo) a town lean to you? You just left the door open for a scum lean on every single player lol
Outside of the two confirmed town players, who is the most town to you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 12:12:32 GMT -5
sooooo is no one outside of (Leo or greentoo) a town lean to you? You just left the door open for a scum lean on every single player lol Outside of the two confirmed town players, who is the most town to you? As of right now maybe Sam or Zaclord.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 10, 2017 12:14:44 GMT -5
Alright, I was hoping that the mafia didn't pick up on Az's not-so-subtle claim about gravey, but alas here we are. Before we jump on the gravey wagon (although it is more likely that he's scum), I want to hear gravey out. Az's claim that he was suspicious means that he's either 1 of the 2 remaining mafia OR that he's Santa. And the last thing we need is to all gang up on him before he gets the chance to speak in case he is Santa. My vote more than likely will be on him before the end of D3, but I think its kinda scummy to jump on the gravey lynch wagon so quickly... Let him speak first, especially since he was blocked all of D2. Question to castleoblivion26 , is Krampus the one that carries out the kill? aka If Krampus is blocked will the night kill fail to go through? I forget if we confirmed this yesterday or not. Other thoughts: Okay, so Mylo was Krampus and since Castle did confirm somewhere (for the life of me I cannot find where but I did find Az referencing it too in a post so I'm not crazy) that if Krampus is blocked, the kill doesn't happen. SO, that means that either a kill wasn't submitted on N1 (unlikely) OR that Santa saved someone on N1 (good job Santa!). Since its likely the latter, Santa, whoever you defended is town so you gotta subtly try and protect them if anyone accuses them of being mafia (unless it was Az). Yeah, I'm also thinking now that I had a huge blind spot in assuming the roleblocker chose to join Krampus, or was undecided. I think that he decided to side with town, with his targets indicating who he finds most suspicious. For the life of me, I haven't been following your logic (or the few others) who were hellbent on a mafia roleblock when they probably hadn't even chosen yet lol. I think the fact that greentoo didn't get blocked last night proves that roleblock chose to side with town. Mafia not killing or blocking greentoo (since they'd have both powers) when he claimed to be the good elf, would be hella suspicious. So unless gravey is actually good elf (just thought about that [still probably unlikely] scenario) and just couldn't prove it since he was silenced yesterday, I think roleblock is more likely aligned to town. But I do think the roleblock is more likely using the block function rather than the silence function in order to try and stop the mafia from making the kill since both gravey and sam were thrown out as names of potential suspect. Other good news: glad to know that Leo is cleared. Also makes me more suspicious of Sam now though for reasons that thewebinator shared a few posts up. Cynthia too a little bit, but maybe she just wasn't good at reading people like she suggested by missing Az as the conductor lol. Anyway, waiting for gravey to explain himself but he's likely mafia unless he claims to be Santa (or Good Elf - but that means greentoo would've had to know gravey was the good elf which is hella unlikely so nvm)
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Dec 10, 2017 12:17:12 GMT -5
AGAIN, I DONT f**kin KNOW THIS GAME HAS BEEN CONFUSING FOR ME, YALL ARE BETTER OFF ASKING ME QUESTIONS ON STUFF AND ME ANSWERING THEN ME TRYING TO GIVE A RECAP OR WHATEVER. Okay here's a question for you: are you Santa or mafia because you're obviously one of the two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 12:18:28 GMT -5
What else do you want me to explain? Have any questions, ask away and I will do my best.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 12:18:49 GMT -5
Ninjad.
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