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Post by Gary on Jan 15, 2018 13:27:01 GMT -5
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jan 15, 2018 15:17:57 GMT -5
I mean, empirically yes, but colloquially, there is a sense of relativity that should be considered. It just feels weird, for example, to call any of these hits, despite their high peaks: Dope / Lady Gaga (#8, had streams that probably shouldn't have counted, left the chart after like 2 weeks) Formation / Beyonce (#10, not even a month in the top 40) Gentleman / Psy (#5, less than 2 months in top 40) Harlem Shake / Bauuer (#1, fueled by memes, less than 20 weeks on the Hot 100) We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow / Soko (#9, 1 week total on hot 100)<iframe width="21.139999999999986" height="5.1200000000000045" style="position: absolute; width: 21.14px; height: 5.12px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 995px; top: -216px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_72385620"></iframe> <iframe width="21.139999999999986" height="5.1200000000000045" style="position: absolute; width: 21.14px; height: 5.12px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -16px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_89031256"></iframe> <iframe width="21.139999999999986" height="5.1200000000000045" style="position: absolute; width: 21.14px; height: 5.12px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 995px; top: -16px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_40576537"></iframe> Harlem Shake did in fact get 20 weeks. I have no real problem calling it a hit because even though it's a "dead meme" we still remember it. Like who's gonna remember When I Was Your Man, Stay by Rihanna, Ho Hey, or honestly even Blurred Lines. That song was #2 year-end and I haven't heard the song or heard anyone talk about the song since like 2015. Whereas the Harlem Shake I actually think people are gonna remember, even if they remember it as a meme more than a song it's still a song that's in the public consciousness. And I think in 2033 people will probably still know what the Harlem Shake is, sort of like how we still know what U Can't Touch This is twenty or more years later I agree that Harlem Shake is a hit. And a memorable one at that. Because it is so unique on a musical and cultural level. Doesn't make it good, but it clearly is a hit on the charts. However, Blurred Lines has one of the most iconic music videos of the decade (top 3 next to Wrecking Ball and Hotline Bling, I'd say). Definitely worth talking about, and people bring up the half-baked "controversy" surrounding it all the time. Stay is a song I had just gotten into a conversation about the other day on the Rihanna signature song thread. I pointed out that Stay was receiving more plays per day on Spotify and YouTube than any other pre-Anti Rihanna song. Ho Hey is famously unique and terrible as well.
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Post by mako on Jan 15, 2018 18:07:11 GMT -5
there's no hook or really infectious earworm to grasp onto, That's what made me like Filthy. It has an infectious earworm.
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Post by 85la on Jan 15, 2018 22:08:37 GMT -5
This article explains the Beyonce credit for Perfect in more detail, which will now be taken away for most charts. Ed Sheeran's 'Perfect' Crowns Pop Songs & Adult Pop Songs Airplay ChartsGary Trust The ballad marks his third and fourth trip to the top of each respective list. Ed Sheeran's "Perfect" hits No. 1 on both Billboard's Pop Songs and Adult Pop Songs radio airplay charts, rising 2-1 on each ranking (dated Jan. 20). The ballad marks Sheeran's third No. 1 on Pop Songs, following "Thinking Out Loud," for a week in 2015, and "Shape of You," which began a nine-week reign last March. "Shape" and "Perfect" are both from Sheeran's 2017 album ÷ (Divide). On Adult Pop Songs, Sheeran previously led with "Thinking," "Photograph" (each for six weeks in 2015) and "Shape" (12 weeks). The Pop Songs chart measures total weekly plays, as tabulated by Nielsen Music, among its reporting panel of 161 mainstream top 40 stations. Adult Pop Songs tracks plays on 85 adult top 40 stations. Double-domination fun fact: the last song to post its first week at No. 1 on both Pop Songs and Adult Pop Songs in the same week? Justin Timberlake's "Can't Stop the Feeling!" (June 18, 2016). Notably, "Perfect" has reverted to being billed as by Sheeran solo on almost all Billboard charts after five weeks in which Beyoncé received co-lead credit following the release of its duet version. After its first week of release, that version was the most dominant in sales and streams, while also receiving significant airplay, as it was being promoted to radio.
After multiple weeks of the duet no longer contributing the bulk of its sales (or streams or airplay), only Sheeran is now credited (except on Rhythmic Songs, where Beyonce remains co-billed, as that version is still logging notable activity at the format); all versions will continue to contribute to the song's singular chart listing.
This practice of temporarily adding artist credit while a particular version factors heavily into a song's success has been applied to previous singles, including, for example, Rihanna's "S&M" (Britney Spears) and Spears' "Till the World Ends" (Nicki Minaj and Kesha), both in 2011.Concurrently, Sheeran adds his ninth top 10 on Pop Songs as featured, with Future, on Taylor Swift's "End Game," which rises 11-10. The track reaches the region a week shy of the fifth anniversary of Sheeran's first ascent to the Pop Songs top 10, with "The A Team," which climbed from No. 11 to its No. 9 peak on the chart dated Jan. 26, 2013. (One of the lyrics in "End Game"? "I wanna be your A team.") Swift scores her 15th Pop Songs top 10 and the second from her latest album, Reputation. Lead single "Look What You Made Me Do" topped the Oct. 28-dated chart. (Second single "…Ready for It?" reached No. 12 in December.) Future earns his second Pop Songs top 10, following his featured turn on Maroon 5's "Cold" (No. 8, last May). "Perfect" has led the all-genre streaming, airplay and sales-based Billboard Hot 100 for five weeks running; highlights of the survey will post tomorrow (Jan. 16) and all charts will update Wednesday (Jan. 17) on Billboard.com. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8094278/ed-sheeran-perfect-number-one-pop-songs-adult-pop-songs
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Post by korbel16 on Jan 15, 2018 22:33:50 GMT -5
This article explains the Beyonce credit for Perfect in more detail, which will now be taken away for most charts. Ed Sheeran's 'Perfect' Crowns Pop Songs & Adult Pop Songs Airplay ChartsGary Trust The ballad marks his third and fourth trip to the top of each respective list. Ed Sheeran's "Perfect" hits No. 1 on both Billboard's Pop Songs and Adult Pop Songs radio airplay charts, rising 2-1 on each ranking (dated Jan. 20). The ballad marks Sheeran's third No. 1 on Pop Songs, following "Thinking Out Loud," for a week in 2015, and "Shape of You," which began a nine-week reign last March. "Shape" and "Perfect" are both from Sheeran's 2017 album ÷ (Divide). On Adult Pop Songs, Sheeran previously led with "Thinking," "Photograph" (each for six weeks in 2015) and "Shape" (12 weeks). The Pop Songs chart measures total weekly plays, as tabulated by Nielsen Music, among its reporting panel of 161 mainstream top 40 stations. Adult Pop Songs tracks plays on 85 adult top 40 stations. Double-domination fun fact: the last song to post its first week at No. 1 on both Pop Songs and Adult Pop Songs in the same week? Justin Timberlake's "Can't Stop the Feeling!" (June 18, 2016). Notably, "Perfect" has reverted to being billed as by Sheeran solo on almost all Billboard charts after five weeks in which Beyoncé received co-lead credit following the release of its duet version. After its first week of release, that version was the most dominant in sales and streams, while also receiving significant airplay, as it was being promoted to radio.
After multiple weeks of the duet no longer contributing the bulk of its sales (or streams or airplay), only Sheeran is now credited (except on Rhythmic Songs, where Beyonce remains co-billed, as that version is still logging notable activity at the format); all versions will continue to contribute to the song's singular chart listing.
This practice of temporarily adding artist credit while a particular version factors heavily into a song's success has been applied to previous singles, including, for example, Rihanna's "S&M" (Britney Spears) and Spears' "Till the World Ends" (Nicki Minaj and Kesha), both in 2011.Concurrently, Sheeran adds his ninth top 10 on Pop Songs as featured, with Future, on Taylor Swift's "End Game," which rises 11-10. The track reaches the region a week shy of the fifth anniversary of Sheeran's first ascent to the Pop Songs top 10, with "The A Team," which climbed from No. 11 to its No. 9 peak on the chart dated Jan. 26, 2013. (One of the lyrics in "End Game"? "I wanna be your A team.") Swift scores her 15th Pop Songs top 10 and the second from her latest album, Reputation. Lead single "Look What You Made Me Do" topped the Oct. 28-dated chart. (Second single "…Ready for It?" reached No. 12 in December.) Future earns his second Pop Songs top 10, following his featured turn on Maroon 5's "Cold" (No. 8, last May). "Perfect" has led the all-genre streaming, airplay and sales-based Billboard Hot 100 for five weeks running; highlights of the survey will post tomorrow (Jan. 16) and all charts will update Wednesday (Jan. 17) on Billboard.com. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8094278/ed-sheeran-perfect-number-one-pop-songs-adult-pop-songs Will that mean perfect will be number 1 without beyonce tomorrow or will she still be credited until the following week
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Post by 85la on Jan 15, 2018 22:46:06 GMT -5
^ Tomorrow, although in that article they didn't specify exactly which charts the credit will be taken away.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jan 15, 2018 22:51:27 GMT -5
^ Tomorrow, although in that article they didn't specify exactly which charts the credit will be taken away. They did; every one except Rhythmic.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 16, 2018 7:44:47 GMT -5
^I expected this to happen and probably should done so much earlier, as soon as Perfect's second week at #1.
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Post by Caviar on Jan 16, 2018 7:54:46 GMT -5
The checks stopped.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 16, 2018 8:02:16 GMT -5
^Beyonce will still get her share of spoils from her version of Perfect.
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Post by renaboss on Jan 16, 2018 8:38:13 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't like that one bit? It feels like two versions of "Perfect" topped the chart then. Like it's two different number one hits. I hate that. I wouldn't mind it that much if the song was no longer #1. It just sorta feels like it invalidates Beyoncé's 6th #1.
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Post by jebsib on Jan 16, 2018 9:15:51 GMT -5
LOL mess.
Billboard loves their "Superstar A now has 34 weeks at #1" spiel in their articles. If Perfect is #1 today, does this mean that Beyonce will have 5 weeks at #1 - but Ed gets 6+? Delightfully confusing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 9:23:07 GMT -5
LOL mess. Billboard loves their "Superstar A now has 34 weeks at #1" spiel in their articles. If Perfect is #1 today, does this mean that Beyonce will have 5 weeks at #1 - but Ed gets 6+? Delightfully confusing. I reckon so. I mean, it makes sense to credit the artist(s) who are a significant part of whatever week a song happens to be #1. It's a weekly chart, so things can change from week to week. It just makes things historically awkward. But so do/have many things when it comes to the charts over the decades.
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Post by Choco on Jan 16, 2018 10:29:37 GMT -5
I'd have been fine with this if they had stopped at 1 week (the first week at #1 which was due to the Duet).
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 16, 2018 10:36:04 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't like that one bit? It feels like two versions of "Perfect" topped the chart then. Like it's two different number one hits. I hate that. I wouldn't mind it that much if the song was no longer #1. It just sorta feels like it invalidates Beyoncé's 6th #1. It feels like it because that is reality, though. The first week "Perfect" hit #1, the version with Beyonce had more sales and streams. To that end, the duet version was the more popular song (and thus the #1 song) than the album version. Now the album version has far better sales, streams, and even airplay, so the solo version is the clear #1. So, two versions literally did top the chart. I'd have been fine with this if they had stopped at 1 week (the first week at #1 which was due to the Duet). Right. Removing it now is so random and arbitrary, but then so are a lot of things with Billboard at this point. LOL mess. Billboard loves their "Superstar A now has 34 weeks at #1" spiel in their articles. If Perfect is #1 today, does this mean that Beyonce will have 5 weeks at #1 - but Ed gets 6+? Delightfully confusing. Why is it confusing? What you said is exactly what will happen; Beyonce gets the weeks at #1 counted when she was credited, and Ed gets all of the weeks at #1.
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Post by C.Ro on Jan 16, 2018 10:58:49 GMT -5
So, Ed has three number ones now? Shape of You, Perfect and Perfect Duet?
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Post by Gary on Jan 16, 2018 11:01:57 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 16, 2018 11:06:45 GMT -5
So, Ed has three number ones now? Shape of You, Perfect and Perfect Duet? No. All versions of "Perfect" were combined to one chart entry. The change of which one received top billing credit does not change one entry to another, just how it's labeled. Like how "Bodak Yellow" became "Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)." It's still the same track, just notated differently.
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Post by C.Ro on Jan 16, 2018 11:08:00 GMT -5
So, Ed has three number ones now? Shape of You, Perfect and Perfect Duet? No. All versions of "Perfect" were combined to one chart entry. The change of which one received top billing credit does not change one entry to another, just how it's labeled. Like how "Bodak Yellow" became "Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)." It's still the same track, just notated differently. Thanks
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Post by Gary on Jan 16, 2018 11:10:22 GMT -5
Unless you keep your own records or you are obsessed with all chart statistics surrounding Beyonce, this isn't even news.
Perfect is still #1
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Post by chartslovergermany on Jan 16, 2018 11:13:47 GMT -5
anything new about havana?
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Post by Choco on Jan 16, 2018 11:25:24 GMT -5
Havana won't top this chart. The next one (01/27/2018) it might have a solid chance thanks to a streaming bump and the iTunes discount. (It's ahead of Perfect on both sales and streams, but has fallen below it on airplay, so who knows at this point).
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Post by deepston on Jan 16, 2018 11:31:07 GMT -5
Havana won't top this chart. The next one (01/27/2018) it might have a solid chance thanks to a streaming bump and the iTunes discount. (It's ahead of Perfect on both sales and streams, but has fallen below it on airplay, so who knows at this point). I'm confident Havana got this. The airplay gap is not that big and radio represents the weakest component. The song is dominating over Perfect in both streams and sales, unless it starts free-falling right now I think it's very likely Havana will top the chart.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jan 16, 2018 11:35:22 GMT -5
The first new Top 10 is obviously "Finesse", but the second new Top 10 is going to be either "Filthy" or "New Rules" (more likely the former given Simm's predictions which put "Filthy" higher than "New Rules" but we'll see).
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Post by Duca on Jan 16, 2018 12:48:34 GMT -5
10. Migos, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B - MotorSport (-2) 9. Justin Timberlake - Filthy (NEW) 8. Sam Smith - Too Good At Goodbyes (-1) 7. Halsey - Bad At Love (-1) 6. Imagine Dragons - Thunder (-2) 5. G-Eazy - No Limit ft. A$AP Rocky, Cardi B (=) 4. Post Malone - rockstar ft. 21 Savage (-1) 3. Bruno Mars - Finesse [Remix] ft. Cardi B (+32) 2. Camila Cabello - Havana ft. Young Thug (=) 1. Ed Sheeran - Perfect (=)
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Post by kacpe3 on Jan 16, 2018 12:53:55 GMT -5
11. New Rules (=) gain in radio and streaming
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Post by C.Ro on Jan 16, 2018 13:02:23 GMT -5
So, Cardi gets a new week with three songs in the top 10, did another artist made it two times?
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Post by leonagwen on Jan 16, 2018 13:10:52 GMT -5
Hopefully Camila gets #1 next week.
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Post by Caviar on Jan 16, 2018 13:11:23 GMT -5
So, Cardi gets a new week with three songs in the top 10, did another artist made it two times? I'm waiting on the feature warriors to come in and discredit her.
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Post by Duca on Jan 16, 2018 13:23:50 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran's 'Perfect' Rules Hot 100, Bruno Mars & Cardi B's 'Finesse' Flies to No. 3 & Justin Timberlake's 'Filthy' Debuts at No. 9 Sheeran's ballad, on top for a sixth week, heads up an action-packed top 10.
Ed Sheeran's "Perfect" leads the Billboard Hot 100 for a sixth week on the chart dated Jan. 20.
Meanwhile, two songs surge to the top 10, as Bruno Mars and Cardi B's "Finesse" blasts from its No. 35 debut to No. 3, following the first full week of tracking for its new remix, and Justin Timberlake's "Filthy" launches at No. 9 after its first seven days of availability.Let's run down the top 10 of the Hot 100, which blends all-genre streaming, airplay and sales data. All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Jan. 17). Starting with "Finesse," the new jack swing-reviving collaboration was originally released as a solo song on Mars' 2016 album 24K Magic (on Atlantic Records). After the arrival of its remix and official video Jan. 4, the song entered the Jan. 13-dated Hot 100 on the strength of a day of streaming and sales tracking, and three days of airplay tracking, for its new version (with all versions contributing to its singular chart listing). After a first full week of tracking after the new version's release, "Finesse" roars onto the Streaming Songs chart at No. 1, with 38.3 million U.S. streams (up 342 percent) in the week ending Jan. 11, according to Nielsen Music. It charges 13-2 on Digital Song Sales, with 87,000 downloads sold (up 189 percent) in the week ending Jan. 11, and 49-14 on Radio Songs, with 52 million in all-format airplay audience (up 103 percent) in the week ending Jan. 14. No. 1 streaming debut: "Finesse" is the first No. 1-debuting title on Streaming Songs since the song that it dethrones after 14 weeks on top: Post Malone's "Rockstar," featuring 21 Savage. Mars notches his second No. 1 on the list and first as a lead artist, following his 12-week reign in 2015 as featured on Mark Ronson's "Uptown Funk!" Cardi B likewise achieves her second Streaming Songs No. 1, after her debut hit "Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)" topped the chart for two weeks beginning Sept. 30. Top 10 totals: Mars tallies his 15th Hot 100 top 10 and Cardi B collects her fourth. Her second and third top 10s remain in the region: G-Eazy's "No Limit," featuring A$AP Rocky and Cardi B, holds at No. 5 (after reaching No. 4) and Migos, Nicki Minaj and Cardi B's "MotorSport" descends 8-10 (after hitting No. 6).Third time's a charm, for third time, for Mars: Especially impressively, Mars has now earned three Hot 100 top 10s from each of his first three proper albums, becoming just the second male artist and sixth act overall to achieve the career-opening feat. "Finesse" follows the 24K Magic title cut, which reached No. 4 on the Hot 100 in December 2016, and "That's What I Like," which topped the May 13, 2017-dated chart. (Third single "Versace on the Floor" peaked at No. 33 in September.) Mars' debut LP, 2010's Doo-Wops & Hooligans, generated the twin four-week Hot 100 leaders "Just the Way You Are" and "Grenade" and the No. 4-peaking "The Lazy Song." 2012's Unorthodox Jukebox yielded two more No. 1s, "Locked Out of Heaven" (six weeks) and "When I Was Your Man" (one), and the No. 5 hit "Treasure." (Mars first released the EP It's Better If You Don't Understand in 2010.) The only other acts with at least three Hot 100 top 10s apiece from each of their first three proper solo albums: Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Beyonce, Lady Gaga (including 2010's The Fame Monster) and the only male before Mars to earn the honor, and the first artist overall to do so, in 1982-86, Lionel Richie. 35-3: Studious chart fans may notice that "Finesse" makes the second 35-3 jump in the Hot 100's history (which dates to Aug. 4, 1958). The only other song to do so? Answer at the end of this story. (Hint: the first such song made the move during new jack swing's original heyday.) R&B/hip-hop royalty: "Finesse" concurrently climbs 16-1 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart and 2-1 on Hot R&B Songs. On the former ranking, Mars earns his second No. 1, following "That's What I Like" (10 weeks), as does Cardi B, following "Bodak Yellow" (six). On the latter list (which began in 2012), Mars also adds his second No. 1, after "Like" led for a record-tying 20 weeks. Cardi B tops Hot R&B Songs in her first appearance on the chart. Meanwhile, Timberlake's "Filthy" (on RCA Records) bows at No. 9 on the Hot 100. It enters Digital Song Sales at No. 3 (79,000 sold) and Streaming Songs at No. 26 (15.8 million U.S. streams) and jumps 45-32 on Radio Songs (36 million impressions). Timberlake scores his 18th solo Hot 100 top 10 (to go along with six visits that he made to the region in 1999-2002 as a member of *NSYNC). He earns his third-highest debut among 30 charted titles, after the No. 1-launching "Can't Stop the Feeling!" (May 28, 2016), his previous Hot 100 hit before "Filthy," and "Holy Grail," by JAY-Z featuring Timberlake, which started at No. 8, and peaked at No. 4, in 2013. (Thus, Timberlake has tallied his two highest Hot 100 debuts as a lead artist with his 29th and 30th entries.) He landed his first solo top 10 with "Cry Me a River," which hit No. 3 in 2003. "Filthy" is the lead single from Timberlake's fifth album (and first in over four years), Man of the Woods, due Feb. 2. Two days later, Timberlake will perform at the Super Bowl LII Halftime Show. Atop the Hot 100, Sheeran's "Perfect" (on Atlantic Records) leads for a sixth week. The ballad crowns Digital Song Sales for a seventh week (98,000, down 10 percent) and Radio Songs for a second frame (145 million, up 6 percent), while rebounding 4-3 (after a week at No. 1) on Streaming Songs (38 million, up 4 percent). The song also takes over at No. 1 on both the Pop Songs and Adult Pop Songs airplay charts. As previously reported, "Perfect" has reverted to being billed as by Sheeran solo on almost all Billboard charts after five weeks in which Beyoncé received co-lead credit following the release of its duet version. After its first week of release, that version was the most dominant in sales and streams, while also receiving significant airplay, as it was being promoted to radio. After multiple weeks of the duet no longer contributing the bulk of its sales (or streams or airplay), only Sheeran is now credited (except on Rhythmic Songs, where Beyonce remains co-billed, as that version is still logging notable activity at the format); all versions will continue to contribute to the song's singular chart listing. This practice of temporarily adding artist credit while a particular version factors heavily into a song's success has been applied to previous singles, including, for example, Rihanna's "S&M" (Britney Spears) and Spears' "Till the World Ends" (Nicki Minaj and Kesha), both in 2011. Camila Cabello's "Havana" logs a seventh week at its No. 2 Hot 100 peak. The last No. 2 hit by a lead female to post seven weeks at the runner-up rank? Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" in 2009-10. (Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott's "Work It" shares the peak longevity mark among all No. 2 Hot 100 hits: it spent 10 weeks at the position in 2002-03. The track tied Foreigner's "Waiting for a Girl Like You," which hit a No. 2 high for 10 weeks in 1981-82.) Elsewhere in the Hot 100's top 10, former eight-week No. 1 "Rockstar" retreats 3-4, while topping Hot Rap Songs for a 14th week; Imagine Dragons' "Thunder" drops from its No. 4 peak to No. 6, while leading Hot Rock Songs for an 11th frame; Halsey's "Bad at Love" dips from its No. 6 Hot 100 high to No. 7; and Sam Smith's No. 4-peaking "Too Good at Goodbyes" slides 7-8.Quiz answer! The only song before Bruno Mars and Cardi B's "Finesse" to fly from No. 35 to No. 3 on the Hot 100? Michael Jackson's "Black or White," on the chart dated Nov. 30, 1991 (the week that the chart adopted Nielsen Music data). The King of Pop's smash began a seven-week run at No. 1 the following week. Find out more Hot 100 news in the weekly "Hot 100 Chart Moves" column and by listening (and subscribing) to Billboard's Chart Beat Podcast and Pop Shop Podcast. And again, be sure to visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Jan. 17), when all charts, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh. The next issue of Billboard magazine is on sale Friday (Jan. 19).
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