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I like Lola, but I prefer her in a more natural setup. Not a fan of those pictures. But good for her. Is she a model for this brand? Or is it actually her brand? Lola is a brand ambassador for them right now. Ashley Graham is also featured in their newest marketing and advertising campaigns. Juicy Couture has been around since 1997. It was co-founded by Gela Nash who eventually married John Taylor of Duran Duran.
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Post by August on Dec 10, 2020 9:26:36 GMT -5
For those of you who don't know, Susan Boyle covered "You'll See" for her debut album. Here she is singing it on the Britain's Got Talent 2012 finale. She does a nice job...though you can tell towards the end she gets a little ahead of the music.
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 10, 2020 14:37:51 GMT -5
Take this with a grain of salt but someone posted on Mtribe forum that Madonna will release brand new music soon, it'll be an EP though, not an album. And she'll be back on Superbowl stage as a guest of The Weeknd. I will not believe these rumors until they are confirmed still, they are too juicy and exciting to ignore. Maybe she'll do a collab with The Weeknd since she started following him and was in the studio with her manager & producer.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Dec 10, 2020 15:13:48 GMT -5
^ that would be great. Rumor of her teaming with Patrick Leonard would top it off.
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 10, 2020 16:37:38 GMT -5
According to this "fan/insider", her work with Patrick Leonard is for the biopic.
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The "Rescue Me" EP is on all platforms to purchase and stream
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 11, 2020 9:12:03 GMT -5
Another Spin list, another nice placement for M. She's placed prominently on the best Songs, Concerts and Videos of the last 35 years lists, and was No. 3 Most Influential Artist. This time, the 35 Best Albums of the Last 35 Years. Like a Prayer finished No. 8. www.spin.com/featured/the-35-best-albums-of-the-last-35-years
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 11, 2020 11:16:31 GMT -5
So when was the first time you were aware of Madonna? And when did you became a big fan? In my case it was the Material Girl video. I already knew Cyndi Lauper by then and when I watched MG I remember liking very much the song, but thinking "so bad she's so formal. I wish she was more extravagant like Cyndi". Little did I know.... ha ha ha. I didn't even know the Marilyn Monroe connection in the video so I thought that was her regular wardrobe! But then when the video for Dress You Up came out I officially became NUTS about her. ;) Iβm 25, so my answer is when 4 minutes was smashing when I was in middle school. I had heard music and like a Virgin before but didnβt really know who she was. My age group was probably the last one growing up that really got to see Madonna have a hit song in the US.
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Post by Carlitoz on Dec 11, 2020 14:57:20 GMT -5
So when was the first time you were aware of Madonna? And when did you became a big fan? In my case it was the Material Girl video. I already knew Cyndi Lauper by then and when I watched MG I remember liking very much the song, but thinking "so bad she's so formal. I wish she was more extravagant like Cyndi". Little did I know.... ha ha ha. I didn't even know the Marilyn Monroe connection in the video so I thought that was her regular wardrobe! But then when the video for Dress You Up came out I officially became NUTS about her. ;) Iβm 25, so my answer is when 4 minutes was smashing when I was in middle school. I had heard music and like a Virgin before but didnβt really know who she was. My age group was probably the last one growing up that really got to see Madonna have a hit song in the US. I really like to read comments like this one. They remind me of what happened to me in the early 80s discovering many artist for the first time who had already had big careers in the 70s and 60s like Bowie, Elton, Cher, Tina, Bruce, etc. I had never heard of them until I heard some of their huge 80s hits.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Dec 12, 2020 4:35:46 GMT -5
My favorite Madonna ballad. youtu.be/IzAO9A9GjgIwww.stereogum.com/2110323/the-number-ones-madonnas-live-to-tell/columns/the-number-ones/βPlanetarium music.β Thatβs what my friend Nat called it. Sometime near the end of high school, I was starting to grapple with the idea that there might be good music that was neither skate-punk nor Wu-Tang somewhere out in the world. I was riding around in Natβs car, and we were listening to the used cassette copy ofΒ The Immaculate CollectionΒ that Iβd just bought. Nat and I were both having one of thoseΒ s**t, f**k, this rulesΒ moments with the tape, processing the idea that Madonna was way better at making music that weβd ever given her credit for being.Β When we heard the βLive To Tellβ intro, with its big drums and its gasping keyboards and its blippy little oscillations, Nat said, βYo, itβs likeΒ planetariumΒ music,β and he was exactly right. Iβve never encountered a better description. Decades later, I still think of what Nat said every time I hear the song. βPlanetarium musicβ fits because the production of βLive To Tellβ is pure head-blown β80s sci-fi awe β the kind of wonderstruck synth music that Carl Sagan mightβve used to soundtrackΒ Cosmos. The term also fits because the song sounds like Madonna staring out into the universe, contemplating her own place within it. Her lyrics are vague but portentous, and they hint at some kind of emotional apocalypse. Her voice is wounded but strong. She comes off as a person dealing with the kind of vast sadness thatβs hard to put into words, but she also comes off as someone determined to get through it: βThe light that you could never see/ It shines inside, you canβt take that from me.β In June of 1985, Madonna had just gotten done with the Virgin Tour, her first-ever arena trek. The tour, which featured the pre-Licensed To IllΒ Beastie Boys as openers, solidified Madonna as an A-list pop figure, and she apparently liked the experience enough that she wanted to keep working with her collaborators. The tourβs musical director was Patrick Leonard, a fellow Michigan native whoβd previously played keyboards in Frank Zappaβs band and in the Allman Brothers Band. Before working with Madonna, Leonard had been the musical director for the Jacksonsβ Victory Tour. After the Virgin Tour ended, Madonna asked Leonard if he wanted to write some songs together. Leonard was into it.Β At the time, Leonard was trying to get into the film-scoring world. Leonard had seen the script forΒ Fire With Fire, a 1986 romance about a girl at a Catholic boarding school falling in love with a boy in a prison camp. He sent Paramount a song heβd written, telling the studio that he could get Madonna to write some lyrics for it. Paramount rejected Leonardβs song, and they hired Howard Shore to score the movie instead. Iβd never heard ofΒ Fire With FireΒ until I sat down to write this, but it exists. Looks pretty good, too! At the time, Madonna was married to Sean Penn. Theyβd made it official on Madonnaβs birthday in 1985, just after sheβd finished the Virgin Tour. When Madonna heard that Paramount wasnβt interested in the song that Leonard had written, Madonna decided that it would be great for the movie Penn was making. Penn was starring in the dramaΒ At Close Range, playing a soulful and conflicted son in a family of criminals in rural Pennsylvania. Madonna wrote some lyrics on the spot, coming up with a bridge and a few melodies of her own. She recorded a quick demo and then took it to Penn, who loved it. Madonna thought that she was writing the song from a male perspective and that theyβd find a man to sing it. But Leonard loved the vulnerability of Madonnaβs version, and that demo that she recorded was the one that Madonna eventually released. At Madonnaβs suggestion,Β At Close RangeΒ director James Foley hired Leonard to score the movie. Leonard only scored a few more films after that: The 1985 Tom Hanks mob comedyΒ Nothing In Common, the 1991 Michael Biehn sci-fiΒ Timebomb, the 1994 Joe Pesci/Brendan Fraser coming-of-age thingΒ With Honors, the Sundancey 2014 dramaΒ Lullaby. Leonardβs biggest film credit probably comes from a very different part of his career. Leonard was a writer and producer on Leonard Cohenβs last three albums, and he co-wrote Cohenβs βNevermind,β which became the theme song for the second season ofΒ True Detective. Anyway, Madonna loved working with Leonard, so heβll be in this column again as both a writer and producer. James Foley directed Madonnaβs βLive To Tell,β video, which is mostly just scenes fromΒ At Close Range. Iβd have to check through her videography again to be sure about it, but βLive To Tellβ is almost certainly the only Madonna video that gives as much screen time to a mustachioed Christopher Walken as it does to Madonna herself. But the video does highlight one of Madonnaβs many image reinventions. Where sheβd previously styled herself as a new-wave New York club kid with a whole lot of jewelry, the Madonna who sings in front of a black void in the βLive To Tellβ video is more of a retro Hollywood beauty β a very conscious decision on her part. (At Close RangeΒ was only Foleyβs second movie, and he went on to have a weird and occasionally-great journeyman career:Β Glengarry Glen Ross,Β Fear, 12 episodes ofΒ House Of Cards, the second and thirdΒ Fifty ShadesΒ movies.) Despite generally good reviews,Β At Close RangeΒ was a box-office failure β though not as big a failure asΒ Shanghai Surprise, the notoriously awful movie that Madonna and Penn made together later in 1986. But βLive To Tellβ took off anyway. When she released βLive To Tellβ as a single, Madonna was still working on her third albumΒ True Blue, which wouldnβt come out until a few weeks after the song hit #1. When βLive To Tellβ was at its apex, then, it wasnβt available on an album. You had to buy the single. Like Madonnaβs previous #1 single βCrazy For Youβ β another song from a movie thatβs probably not quite as memorable as the song itself β βLive To Tellβ is Madonna bending the aesthetics of the β80s adult-contemporary ballad to her own will. As a singer, Madonna has never been a powerhouse like Whitney Houston, but sheβs a communicator. She speaks volumes with tone and phrasing. On βLive To Tell,β she sounds lost and scared. Her voice is low and quiet, like sheβs putting voice to things sheβs not quite ready to admit: βA man can tell a thousand lies/ I learned my lesson well.β βLive To Tellβ isnβt necessarily about any particular situation. Madonna once toldΒ Rolling StoneΒ that the song is βtrue, but itβs not necessarily autobiographical.β Her lyrics are light on specifics; we donβt know what secret she wants to live to tell. Instead, itβs the kind of song that you feel, not the kind that you parse. Musically, βLive To Tellβ takes the sound of big mid-β80s pop and somehow makes it intimate. Madonna and Leonard produced the song together, and Leonard played the keyboards and programmed the drum machines. All the sounds β the glowing synths, the big drum thumps, the occasional guitar-growls β are clean but immersive. βLive To Tellβ hit #1 on the Adult Contemporary charts, but it doesnβt sound canned and treacly like so many other β80s adult-contempo hits. Instead, it cuts a little deeper. That depth served Madonna well.
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Post by Dreams on Dec 12, 2020 7:18:00 GMT -5
Such a classic, one of her best. I love the performance from the Blond Ambition tour. This was also her very first Patrick Leonard co-write, right?
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Dec 12, 2020 8:01:27 GMT -5
One of my fave Madonna ballads. So haunting and melancholic. It used to make me cry when I was younger.
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 12, 2020 8:22:19 GMT -5
Live To Tell is her best ballad in my opinion, it's so beautiful and haunting. Confessions Tour performance is my favorite performance of this song.
Btw, still listening to Madame X album, still sounds fresh and amazing. Madonna did that almost 40 years into her career.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 12, 2020 10:15:40 GMT -5
Dreams- not sure of the writing timelines, though "Love Makes the World Go Round," which M performed at Live Aid in 1985, is a co-write with Pat L. In terms of commercially released music, indeed "Live to Tell" would be the first of that magical collaboration.
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Post by Carlitoz on Dec 12, 2020 10:54:32 GMT -5
A month ago or so there was an excellent video on youtube re Live To Tell. If i find it I'll post it.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 12, 2020 12:03:24 GMT -5
The Confessions Tour performance is one of the most iconic performances ever.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Dec 12, 2020 12:28:41 GMT -5
Iβve read that Madonna wrote that 'bridge' part (literally) minutes before recording the track. It still gives me chills when the music pauses and she comes in with β If I ran away, I'd never have the strength to go very far How would they hear the beating of my heart? Will it grow cold, the secret that I hide? Will I grow old? How will they hear? When will they learn? How will they know?β
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Post by Carlitoz on Dec 12, 2020 13:53:14 GMT -5
Fully recommended. Very interesting if you want to know more about Live To Tell.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 13, 2020 14:55:32 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 30 and 25 years ago:
December 22, 1990
01 01 Because I Love You (The Postman Song) - Stevie B. (3rd of 4 weeks at #1) 02 04 Justify My Love - Madonna 03 02 From a Distance - Bette Midler 04 05 Impulsive - Wilson Phillips 05 07 Tom's Diner - DNA feat. Suzanne Vega 06 10 High Enough - Damn Yankees 07 03 I'm Your Baby Tonight - Whitney Houston 08 09 Freedom 90 - George Michael 09 06 The Way You Do The Things You Do - UB40 10 14 Sensitivity - Ralph Tresvant
December 23, 1995
01 01 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men (4th of 16 weeks at #1) 02 02 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) - Whitney Houston 03 03 Hey Lover - LL Cool J feat. Boyz II Men 04 05 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. L.V. 05 04 Fantasy - Mariah Carey 06 07 Diggin' On You - TLC 07 NE I Got Id / Long Road - Pearl Jam 08 09 Name - The Goo Goo Dolls 09 06 You'll See - Madonna 10 11 Breakfast At Tiffany's - Deep Blue Something
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 13, 2020 21:53:40 GMT -5
jump- very true. Probably my favorite part of any Madonna song, period.
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 14, 2020 7:28:39 GMT -5
I'm glad that M is staying away from Christmas music. Santa Baby is cute and recorded for a charity and it's enough.
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Post by August on Dec 14, 2020 11:23:24 GMT -5
I'm glad that M is staying away from Christmas music. Santa Baby is cute and recorded for a charity and it's enough. There have been some great Christmas albums and some that have sold like gangbusters, but I have always viewed Christmas albums as filler albums for artists who are either inbetween projects or are experiencing a career decline. There are a few exceptions, Mariah comes to mind, but for every Mariah there is the Billy Idol Christmas album. Mariah was smart about it though. She didn't just sing the same Christmas songs that have been recorded 50K times, she modernized a lot of the old songs to sound more pop and then created some new Christmas classics. Plus, she was at one of her early career peaks, so it wasn't like this was going to cause any harm. If anything, coming off two huge albums almost guaranteed sales. But to your point, I am glad Madonna has not really done holiday music. The whole general cutesy feel of holiday music just does not suit her. Santa Baby is probably the only flirty Christmas song, outside of "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus," so it was the right song for her. Other than that, I couldn't imagine her recording Ava Maria, Silent Night, or Adeste Fidelis.
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 14, 2020 22:56:34 GMT -5
This is strange...the comment section for Madonna's Santa Baby on YouTube has been turned off. Anyone know what causes that?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 15, 2020 8:03:11 GMT -5
M's version of "Santa Baby" drops off the Holiday 100, though it climbs 46-43* on Holiday Airplay. Given its relatively low number of Spotify streams, I imagine it's not on many holiday playlists. Unlike, say, Kylie Minogue's more-faithful-to-the-original cover.
And, yes, that song fit her well, coming just a few years after "Material Girl."
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Post by August on Dec 15, 2020 12:29:30 GMT -5
This is the Christmas present my bestie just sent me. It is from Bed, Bath, and Beyond. You can customize it any way you like and he knew me so well. I Love it. Attachment Deleted
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 16, 2020 12:31:55 GMT -5
^Ha very nice. :)
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 16, 2020 13:50:22 GMT -5
I was aware of M with the first album- I had the "Borderline" 45. However, I fell out of following the music scene, period, for a few years thereafter, and rediscovered her when "Like a Prayer" was out. And that was it. :) I remember hearing the Like a Virgin singles on the radio, but I didn't fully grasp who she was until about the Open Your Heart video. She was such a megastar at that time. And then I really didn't start officially following her chart performance until I'll Remember. I specifically recall listening to Casey Kasum's Top 40 and I'll Remember climbed from 17-11 and I remember thinking to myself, "Madonna has had a lot of hits, I'm going to start following her." I was a sophomore in high school. Then it was just game on.
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Post by Carlitoz on Dec 16, 2020 17:03:27 GMT -5
Hey, August! I forgot if I ever asked you. Since you live in NY and have been a fan since the beginning, did you go to the theatre to see Goose & Tomtom?? Or remember any advertising or talks about it? I wonder if a recorded show exists somewhere? I can't recall if it was even open to the public or if it was a one-night kind of thing...
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Post by August on Dec 16, 2020 18:56:53 GMT -5
Hey, August! I forgot if I ever asked you. Since you live in NY and have been a fan since the beginning, did you go to the theatre to see Goose & Tomtom?? Or remember any advertising or talks about it? I wonder if a recorded show exists somewhere? I can't recall if it was even open to the public or if it was a one-night kind of thing... I never saw it, but I do remember seeing it on our local news. It was playing in this small theatre at Lincoln Center. It wasnβt the full production. It was a workshop of the play. So what that means is the play is in a somewhat rough form, has minimal (if any) sets, and if it actually does end up being produced, the cast may change. I have no idea if it ever made it to a full production. I did see Speed the Plow when she was in it. Her acting was...bad. When she left the show, Felicity Huffman, in her pre-Desperate Housewives fame, took over the role.
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