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Post by Choco on Oct 16, 2024 10:55:22 GMT -5
I always kind of expected Bad Romance to surpass Poker Face as her signature hit at some point but so far I don't think the numbers support my expectations because PF just doesn't go away, ever.
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Post by balletgirlmom on Oct 16, 2024 10:59:42 GMT -5
So much of back catalog is so iconic!
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Post by Choco on Oct 16, 2024 11:02:13 GMT -5
I mean very few girls are even trying to serve us iconic runs of singles anymore. Everything from Just Dance up to Born this Way was a hit and is well remembered; nowadays The Fame would have three singles tops, then she would have dropped Bad Romance with the Monster re-release and moved on. Would have robbed us of Alejandro, Paparazzi/LoveGame and Telephone. I'm glad Sabrina seems to be on the way to four hits because we need someone to try to have these Good Girl Gone Bad/The Fame/Teenage Dream/1989 moments that we'll remember in 10 years.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 16, 2024 12:00:21 GMT -5
Her catalogue streams have been increasing almost non-stop for a couple of years, since The Chromatica Ball actually. It's been slow and steady climb, from the tour to Bloody Mary going viral etc. We love to see such sustainable growth!
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Post by popmusic911 on Oct 17, 2024 3:33:49 GMT -5
Lead single on the 25th?
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Post by ampersand on Oct 17, 2024 4:38:20 GMT -5
While I realize Harley was not the downfall of this film. I do wonder if Warner brothers will finally move away from her. The first suicide squad did excellent at the box office but got horrible reviews. Then birds of prey and the second suicide squad flopped big time (even for a covid release).and now this. I think Harley may need a break from the big screen She's a really popular character merch-wise (think costumes, toys), so I doubt they move on from her. She's probably the third most popular DC female character after Wonder Woman and Catwoman right now. I wonder if we'll see anybody dressed as Lady Gaga from the film for Halloween. She had surprisingly few iconic outfits, although I can see her final courtroom outfit being a costume. But then again nobody saw the film, so lol.
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Post by shakemaki on Oct 17, 2024 12:51:55 GMT -5
I always kind of expected Bad Romance to surpass Poker Face as her signature hit at some point but so far I don't think the numbers support my expectations because PF just doesn't go away, ever. It’s the song that made me obsessed (and the one she became an overnight supernova with), so it doesn’t surprise me. BR is artsier, but there’s something so genius about that PF production that I think captures everyone’s attention. It still sounds so slick honestly. Also, I have always maintained BR’s verses are weird af for a mainstream hit lol. Only a chorus like that and Gaga could have pulled that off.
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Post by 85la on Oct 17, 2024 22:19:39 GMT -5
To deny that both her music and acting career have been on a substantial downswing, both commercially and often critically, since her A Star Is Born resurgence, is failing to acknowledge reality. Chromatica was a solid underperformance compared to her earlier hit albums This is a wild statement considering: -the album spawned two top 5 singles and one of them went #1 in the US and the UK - beats Joanne, ARTPOP and ASIB there already-the album debuted at #1 in numerous countries (US, UK, Australia, Canada to name a few) -it was selected among the top 20 best albums of the year by ten or so publications (Consequence, NME, People, Rolling Stone, Slate) -it was basically the second most successful dance pop album of the year behind Future Nostalgia (which was a behemoth of a success) -it sparked a 20-show stadium tour which was all sold out and got rave reviews ("The show was as predictably unpredictable as you’d expect from a Lady Gaga concert with everything from incredible choreographed dances to avant-garde theatrics and lots of special effects that made it a night to remember for all in attendance." - Clash) -the album opened with 48.3M streams on Spotify which at the time was one of the best opening days for an artist not called Taylor Swift or Drake. I would like to know what are your criteria of a successful project exactly... This is a highly misconstrued assessment of the era, and you're cherry-picking specific pieces of info that are highly non-definitive, and which I can easily pick apart:
First of all, to be clear, I was referring to U.S. performance only (though I'm not aware of it smashing hugely overseas more so than it did in the U.S.), and we all know that weekly chart peak IS NOT ALWAYS a good representation of overall success. In this case, the #1 was clearly on the weaker side, only staying in the top 10 for 4 weeks and ranking on the year-end list at #48, much lower-ranked than of all her other #1s and even most of her top 10s, and as for the #5, Stupid Love, it spent only 10 weeks on the chart and completely missed the year-end list. And this superficial win in # of top 5s in no way means that it was more successful than the A Star Is Born era, lol, and if you look at the numbers even more closely, though Chromatica was #1 and had a huge first week in the U.S., it shockingly only finished at #50 on the year-end album list, lower than both ARTPOP (#34), and Joanne (#35). She was only ranked as the #44 artist overall for that year in fact. Joanne is maybe a tossup between itself and Chromatica, because it had lesser performing singles, but ARTPOP's lead single, the #4 Applause, ranked higher on the year-end (#37) than Rain On Me, and would've been even higher if it wasn't caught between years, and Do What U Want (regardless of what we think of the song and co-lead artist), also ranked at #84 year-end, so statistically the ARTPOP era performed better than Chromatica. But even so, I clearly said Chromatica was a clear underperformance (also notice that this does not mean an outright flop), compared to her earlier hit albums, not all of her albums. Namely, I was referring to The Fame, Fame Monster, and Born This Way, so you are clearly neglecting that part of what I said. Moving on to the rest of your points: its critical acclaim (I actually really liked the album too) is irrelevant to its commercial success and whether or not it underperformed based on consumption metrics. The tour was successful, ok, but we all know that tour success is often not directly correlated with current album success and is usually divorced from what we mean when we refer to an "album era." Major long-standing acts can have very successful tours even if their current albums flop or they have no current albums at all (e.g. Madonna, The Rolling Stones, Bon Jovi, etc.). As for it being the "second-most successful dance pop album of the year," well, dance pop is not nearly as popular this decade as it used to be (again, I am referring to the U.S. only here), and the fact that the album still only finished at #50 on the year-end with such mild hits, well, that doesn't really mean much.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Oct 18, 2024 8:33:04 GMT -5
I listened to my vinyl the other night and...wow. This album sounds even better than I recall when I listened to the streaming on my headphones. IMMACULATELY produced and sung. It missed the Grammy cutoff, right? If so, that's a shame. OBSESSED with World On A String.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 18, 2024 8:37:56 GMT -5
I listened to my vinyl the other night and...wow. This album sounds even better than I recall when I listened to the streaming on my headphones. IMMACULATELY produced and sung. It missed the Grammy cutoff, right? If so, that's a shame. OBSESSED with World On A String. I’ll be getting my vinyl of it today (assuming the stores are carrying it)
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Post by avamaxstan on Oct 18, 2024 10:56:32 GMT -5
Based on the latest easter eggs, the new era/single is possibly titled "DISEASE"
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 18, 2024 12:30:43 GMT -5
Lady Gaga literally has 104,000,000+ monthly listeners on Spotify, the #1 song in the world with Bruno Mars, a pop hit at 38, an excellent new EP, she just knocked one of her career best televised performances out of the park, and she’s about to drop LG7 on your faces and this is how some of y'all wanna celebrate? 💀
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 19, 2024 5:13:53 GMT -5
Based on the latest easter eggs, the new era/single is possibly titled "DISEASE" The letters have now changed on Spotify as well - it's coming
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 20, 2024 4:50:40 GMT -5
Did the physical copies of Harlequin ship?
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 20, 2024 12:18:14 GMT -5
Did the physical copies of Harlequin ship? I got my Target exclusive over a week ago.
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Post by shakemaki on Oct 20, 2024 13:53:41 GMT -5
So I guess we’re getting it Thursday then. Can’t say I love the idea of a song called “Disease” as her big comeback solo single lol, but not like song titles mean anything for hit potential. One of the most underrated Matchbox 20 gems tho…
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Post by ObhiDonna on Oct 20, 2024 14:03:05 GMT -5
Do you guys think that the release of Harlquin side project put a dampener in her current upwards trajectory and the hype?
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Post by shakemaki on Oct 20, 2024 14:28:07 GMT -5
Do you guys think that the release of Harlquin side project put a dampener in her current upwards trajectory and the hype? I’ve said before I really don’t love this “throw it all at the wall” strategy to launch LG7 and am rather confused why she felt the need to release 3 major music drops in such a short time, but it is what it is. Still don’t see why this can’t wait until the new year to not have to compete much with DWAS and let Joker be forgotten. I can only hope it means they think they have multiple smashes on LG7 and want to get a strong head start on the album release with the lead since most albums burnout so quick after release now. This way she can have single 2 for album release week.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 20, 2024 20:04:22 GMT -5
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 20, 2024 20:29:48 GMT -5
Do you guys think that the release of Harlquin side project put a dampener in her current upwards trajectory and the hype? I’ve said before I really don’t love this “throw it all at the wall” strategy to launch LG7 and am rather confused why she felt the need to release 3 major music drops in such a short time, but it is what it is. Still don’t see why this can’t wait until the new year to not have to compete much with DWAS and let Joker be forgotten. Yeah I am kinda confused why DWAS and Harlequin are being released right before/concurrently with a new LG7 single. Maybe they didn't expect DWAS to smash, but once it did smash, why not suddenly make it the lead single lol or at least let it fully play out before pushing out LG7? My only rationale is that they have some kind of major promo lined up and/or the song is perfect for Halloween lmao. So, they need to get it out by October. Either way, I'm excited. Some of her older songs have been popping up on my spotify-Judas, Bloody Mary, Heavy Metal Lover, etc. She does slightly darker, quirky pop so well. I would die for another Born This Way with smidges of Fame Monster and Artpop on it.
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Post by shakemaki on Oct 20, 2024 21:20:05 GMT -5
I’ve said before I really don’t love this “throw it all at the wall” strategy to launch LG7 and am rather confused why she felt the need to release 3 major music drops in such a short time, but it is what it is. Still don’t see why this can’t wait until the new year to not have to compete much with DWAS and let Joker be forgotten. Yeah I am kinda confused why DWAS and Harlequin are being released right before/concurrently with a new LG7 single. Maybe they didn't expect DWAS to smash, but once it did smash, why not suddenly make it the lead single lol or at least let it fully play out before pushing out LG7? My only rationale is that they have some kind of major promo lined up and/or the song is perfect for Halloween lmao. So, they need to get it out by October. Either way, I'm excited. Some of her older songs have been popping up on my spotify-Judas, Bloody Mary, Heavy Metal Lover, etc. She does slightly darker, quirky pop so well. I would die for another Born This Way with smidges of Fame Monster and Artpop on it. I know at some point the album has been called “dark electro pop.” Some of the BTW tracks are the most that of in her catalog, like Judas, Bloody Mary, and Gov Hooker. So I absolutely expect this to be something in that vein. Which could be very smart of her given the BM viral breakout and Judas suddenly becoming one of her most streamed songs in the last couple years. And yes, could also go perfect for Halloween. Though you’d think she’d have released it much sooner in Fall in that case rather than the week of Halloween. Maybe she is also dropping a spooky video with it on Thursday and is hoping for enough of a Halloween bump to debut at #1?
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Post by wavey. on Oct 21, 2024 10:57:30 GMT -5
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 21, 2024 11:06:22 GMT -5
Oh my fucking Gaga!!!
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Post by ObhiDonna on Oct 21, 2024 11:17:09 GMT -5
That cover is soooo cinematic, are we about to get really eccentric and crazy Gaga again?
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Post by ObhiDonna on Oct 21, 2024 13:14:36 GMT -5
Apparently Cirkut produced this new single!
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 21, 2024 13:17:39 GMT -5
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Post by avamaxstan on Oct 21, 2024 13:30:10 GMT -5
Oh she hired Cirkut to produce, she wanted some Ava Max smashers for herself!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 21, 2024 14:08:20 GMT -5
Ok those are some of the best pop videos of recent times. I am excited!!!!
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Post by ObhiDonna on Oct 21, 2024 16:33:10 GMT -5
Also Andrew Watt!!
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 21, 2024 17:55:42 GMT -5
QSQ
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