Billboard Hot 100: 3/3/2018

[Deleted]

RIIIIIIIIIP End Game lol, that is gonna be a nasty drop
I'm just waiting on NBTS to actually make some moves

Bartier Cardi also needs to make some moves, needsa music video soon

[fhas]

HDD's Streaming Songs Chart (On-Demand)

hitsdailydouble.com/streaming_songs

1. God's Plan 45,060,132 (+13%)

If it's right (HDD's Song Revenue Chart is way more accurate than SSC but it'll only update next Wednesday), God's Plan is gonna challenge Harlem Shake's all-time record of 103M streams.

45M On-demand
44-46M YouTube
9-11M Programmed

98-102M total streams. What a time to be alive!

[jayhawk1117]

Feb 22, 2018 18:16:11 GMT -5 @statemusix said:

Feb 22, 2018 12:38:56 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I do agree that Bazzi is an industry plant like Khalid, but Mine is a pretty dope song.

Bazzi is an industry plant?

The reason why Mine is smashing is because of a Snapchat filter that turned into a meme. That logic is exactly why people like Kent Jones and Carly Rae Jepsen had hits. It was the audience that made them famous.

His billboard says he's under ZZZ entertainment, which isn't a real thing, Google it nothing shows up. While Hits Daily Double shows he's under APG/Atlantic. Yeah Spotify is big and all but there is zero chance a filter and a meme is gonna get it to skyrocket to the top 3 of Spotify in all of maybe a week

[kat]

Feb 22, 2018 19:14:35 GMT -5 fhas said:

HDD's Streaming Songs Chart (On-Demand)

hitsdailydouble.com/streaming_songs

1. God's Plan 45,060,132 (+13%)

If it's right (HDD's Song Revenue Chart is way more accurate than SSC but it'll only update next Wednesday), God's Plan is gonna challenge Harlem Shake's all-time record of 103M streams.

45M On-demand
44-46M YouTube
9-11M Programmed

98-102M total streams. What a time to be alive!

Imagine if the video was released with the song

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Feb 22, 2018 16:54:03 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Has there been any updates on the supposed formula change? Last I heard there were disputes with Spotify and they were threatening to stop reporting their number to Nielsen altogether. At least right now that's the only way I could see the hot 100 becoming less static, since Billboard would have to readjust their formula entirely. Sales would likely become a lot more powerful seeing as Spotify is the biggest streaming platform currently.

No, I don't they haven't changed it. I would assume when they do, songs that are really strong in streaming wouldn't be doing as well. That's probably why the last 3 weeks we've had the same 5 songs in the top 5.

[kcdawg13]

Feb 22, 2018 18:16:11 GMT -5 @statemusix said:

Feb 22, 2018 12:38:56 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I do agree that Bazzi is an industry plant like Khalid, but Mine is a pretty dope song.

Bazzi is an industry plant?

The reason why Mine is smashing is because of a Snapchat filter that turned into a meme. That logic is exactly why people like Kent Jones and Carly Rae Jepsen had hits. It was the audience that made them famous.

Lmao, I was just messing around. I don't really think he's an industry plant, though he does have this sorta plastic feeling to him if that makes sense.

[85la]

Feb 22, 2018 21:19:12 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Feb 22, 2018 16:54:03 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Has there been any updates on the supposed formula change? Last I heard there were disputes with Spotify and they were threatening to stop reporting their number to Nielsen altogether. At least right now that's the only way I could see the hot 100 becoming less static, since Billboard would have to readjust their formula entirely. Sales would likely become a lot more powerful seeing as Spotify is the biggest streaming platform currently.

No, I don't they haven't changed it. I would assume when they do, songs that are really strong in streaming wouldn't be doing as well. That's probably why the last 3 weeks we've had the same 5 songs in the top 5.

Wouldn't it be that songs that are doing well in paid, on-demand streams would do well, which is what they said the main formula change would be?

[Golden Bluebird]

kworb.net/airadio/

*** = Dropped or added a format

Overall AI (Top 20) - 02/23/2018
1. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (184.270) (-0.626) ***
2. (=) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (167.632) (+0.724)
3. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (155.745) (-0.881)
4. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (144.789) (-0.759)
5. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - How Long (118.567) (+0.545)
6. (=) HALSEY - Bad At Love (107.941) (-1.604)
7. (+1) G-EAZY & HALSEY - Him & I (106.789) (+1.925)
8. (-1) MAX - Lights Down Low (105.267) (+0.313)
9. (=) NF - Let You Down (99.987) (+1.129)
10. (+1) DRAKE - God's Plan (96.091) (+2.512)
11. (-1) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (92.086) (-1.849)
12. (+1) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (91.769) (+2.202)
13. (-1) SELENA GOMEZ X MARSHMELLO - Wolves (89.812) (-0.424)
14. (=) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOVE. (87.538) (-1.033)
15. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (87.215) (-0.354) ***
16. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (72.238) (-0.576)
17. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (71.187) (-0.267)
18. (=) THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR - Pray For Me (69.220) (+1.187)
19. (=) SCOTTY MCCREERY - Five More Minutes (67.735) (+1.101)
20. (+1) THOMAS RHETT - Marry Me (62.362) (+1.250)

Outside the Top 20:
22. (+1) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (60.794) (+1.394)
24. (+3) CHRIS STAPLETON - Broken Halos (58.502) (+1.399)
30. (=) N.E.R.D. & RIHANNA - Lemon (53.368) (-1.415)
37. (=) JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE - Say Something f/C Stapleton (48.152) (+1.209)
39. (+2) LUKE BRYAN - Most People Are Good (45.985) (+1.096)
42. (+3) BRETT ELDREDGE - The Long Way (44.690) (+1.034)
58. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (37.083) (+1.869)
73. (+3) JASON ALDEAN - You Make It Easy (29.223) (+1.508)

[jenglisbe]

Feb 22, 2018 16:23:19 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Feb 22, 2018 13:34:03 GMT -5 renaboss said:

If sales became the dominant factor again - be they digital or not - would the charts go back to being more like in the 80s, with bigger turnovers?

The speed of the charts during the 80s had more to do with label manipulation than sales weighting.

Well, it also had to do with how airplay was tabulated. It was based on information sent in from stations, and once songs were essentially on the decline, they were taken off the lists even though they were still getting airplay. So, songs tumbled down the chart. Sales were based on store reports, and there was bias there, too, though more so with album sales.

[forg]

New songs charting on iTunes

1. Want You Back - 5 Seconds of Summer
2. Psycho - Post Malone
4. 44 More - Logic

That 5S0S likely likely frontloaded then drops fast

[lazer]

Will Psycho dethrone God's Plan from the No. 1 spot?

[ddlz]

If Psycho does anything, it will be kill Post's hype and momentum. Such a disappointment.

[renaboss]

I heard "Psycho" but barely paid attention to it. Don't think I hated it though. And if "God's Plan", being as boring and mediocre as it is, isn't killing Drake's momentum - much, much to the contrary - then "Psycho" prolly won't do that for Post.

[ddlz]

God's Plan is good and it doesn't put you to sleep.

[DJ General]

Post Malone and Drake are immune to "quality" checks. They are two of the worlds biggest streaming forces.

[kat]

Feb 23, 2018 13:53:05 GMT -5 DJ General said:

Post Malone and Drake are immune to "quality" checks. They are two of the worlds biggest streaming forces.

They’re not immune to quality, they ARE quality.
Also post has only been a megastar since rockstar (which might be making an AT run right now). Congratulations was quite big but IMO people are overhyping Post a little bit in terms of popularity.

[renaboss]

Feb 23, 2018 13:39:54 GMT -5 ddlz said:

God's Plan is good and it doesn't put you to sleep.

Different strokes. I'm glad you feel that way, believe me when I tell you that I wish I liked "God's Plan". But, just to clarify, are you implying "Psycho" puts one to sleep? I have to listen to it again lol.

[ddlz]

Feb 23, 2018 14:35:37 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Feb 23, 2018 13:39:54 GMT -5 ddlz said:

God's Plan is good and it doesn't put you to sleep.

Different strokes. I'm glad you feel that way, believe me when I tell you that I wish I liked "God's Plan". But, just to clarify, are you implying "Psycho" puts one to sleep? I have to listen to it again lol.

I don't want to spoil too much for you.

But who knows, maybe I'm just being too hard on Post. It's just that he's so great with singles, and this new one feels like such a misstep.

[thebops]

Feb 23, 2018 9:27:22 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Feb 22, 2018 16:23:19 GMT -5 iHype. said:

The speed of the charts during the 80s had more to do with label manipulation than sales weighting.

Well, it also had to do with how airplay was tabulated. It was based on information sent in from stations, and once songs were essentially on the decline, they were taken off the lists even though they were still getting airplay. So, songs tumbled down the chart. Sales were based on store reports, and there was bias there, too, though more so with album sales.

If I recall correctly:
Prior to 1991: Airplay based on reports, top 40 radio stations only
1991-1998: Airplay based on actual spins / impressions, top 40 radio stations only
1998-present: Airplay based on actual spins / impressions multi-genre radio panel

So the biggest fluctuation was prior to 1991 for the reasons mentioned as well as only monitoring one genre
Then 1991 fluctuation decreased some with monitored airplay but still within Top 40
Then 1998 with multiple formats like we see today, less turnover due to AC radio holding on to some songs forever, some songs starting at R&B then crossing over to Pop, etc

[mako]

New singles:

Psycho (Post Malone) 9/10, expecting to debut in top 10
44 More (Logic) 10/10, it feels like he just forgot about Everybody lol

[fhas]

Feb 23, 2018 19:11:10 GMT -5 mako said:

New singles:

Psycho (Post Malone) 9/10, expecting to debut in top 10

70k sales + 40M streams + 15M airplay = #2 next week. Kinda easy for him at this point.

[kat]

Feb 23, 2018 20:45:27 GMT -5 fhas said:

Feb 23, 2018 19:11:10 GMT -5 mako said:

New singles:

Psycho (Post Malone) 9/10, expecting to debut in top 10

70k sales + 40M streams + 15M airplay = #2 next week. Kinda easy for him at this point.

Those are numbers that come with a number one debut. Too bad he hit when GP was at the top. Second artist Ever with 2 #2 debuts?

[jenglisbe]

Feb 23, 2018 20:59:59 GMT -5 kat said:

Feb 23, 2018 20:45:27 GMT -5 fhas said:

70k sales + 40M streams + 15M airplay = #2 next week. Kinda easy for him at this point.

Those are numbers that come with a number one debut. Too bad he hit when GP was at the top. Second artist Ever with 2 #2 debuts?

I think Mariah may have two with "Always Be My Baby" and "My All" but am not 100% sure.

[iHype.]

Feb 23, 2018 9:27:22 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Feb 22, 2018 16:23:19 GMT -5 iHype. said:

The speed of the charts during the 80s had more to do with label manipulation than sales weighting.

Well, it also had to do with how airplay was tabulated. It was based on information sent in from stations, and once songs were essentially on the decline, they were taken off the lists even though they were still getting airplay. So, songs tumbled down the chart. Sales were based on store reports, and there was bias there, too, though more so with album sales.

Yeah, from my understanding wasn't that largely due to labels? I read labels would encourage them to remove songs from reporting once an artist moved onto the new single, even if the previous single being played hadn't even peaked at some radio stations yet.

[kat]

Feb 23, 2018 21:49:57 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Feb 23, 2018 9:27:22 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Well, it also had to do with how airplay was tabulated. It was based on information sent in from stations, and once songs were essentially on the decline, they were taken off the lists even though they were still getting airplay. So, songs tumbled down the chart. Sales were based on store reports, and there was bias there, too, though more so with album sales.

Yeah, from my understanding wasn't that largely due to labels? I read labels would encourage them to remove songs from reporting once an artist moved onto the new single, even if the previous single being played hadn't even peaked at some radio stations yet.

This type of shit is why I don’t consider anything pre-Nielsen to be reliable from billboard. Nielsen = actual performance not label fuckery

Also, thank god for streaming. Finally music is in the hands of the people

[kindofbiased]

Feb 23, 2018 20:59:59 GMT -5 kat said:

Feb 23, 2018 20:45:27 GMT -5 fhas said:

70k sales + 40M streams + 15M airplay = #2 next week. Kinda easy for him at this point.

Those are numbers that come with a number one debut. Too bad he hit when GP was at the top. Second artist Ever with 2 #2 debuts?

Bieber also has two with Sorry and Cold Water, though Cold Water probably doesn't count since he was a feature.

[annoymous1]

As long as God's Plan is still ahead of everything but radio I don't think nobody stands a chance of taking dethroning Drake from number 1 even post can't do that although I think he'll debut pretty high .

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Feb 23, 2018 0:44:37 GMT -5 85la said:

Feb 22, 2018 21:19:12 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

No, I don't they haven't changed it. I would assume when they do, songs that are really strong in streaming wouldn't be doing as well. That's probably why the last 3 weeks we've had the same 5 songs in the top 5.

Wouldn't it be that songs that are doing well in paid, on-demand streams would do well, which is what they said the main formula change would be?

Actually, there would be two changes. One is counted the streams from accounts more than those from free or advertised sources, which would mainly affect the Billboard 200 for streaming album equivalents. The other change that has happened the last two years has been a yearly change in the Hot 100 formula components weighs, to account for the growth of streaming and decrease in digital song sales. That one makes streaming count less toward the Hot 100 points. I don't think either change has happened yet.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Feb 23, 2018 22:14:43 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Feb 23, 2018 20:59:59 GMT -5 kat said:

Those are numbers that come with a number one debut. Too bad he hit when GP was at the top. Second artist Ever with 2 #2 debuts?

Bieber also has two with Sorry and Cold Water, though Cold Water probably doesn't count since he was a feature.

Bieber holds the record with 3 (Sorry, Boyfriend and Cold Water). Mariah have 2 #2 debuts, Taylor was close with Today Was A Fairytale and #3 I Knew You Were Trouble (later peaked at #2). Also, Bieber is the only artists with 5 songs that debuted in the top 2 and Purpose is the only fourth album with 2 top 2 debuts (Mariah's Daydream and Butterfly and Eminem's Recovery).

[jenglisbe]

Feb 23, 2018 22:28:02 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Also, Bieber is the only artists with 5 songs that debuted in the top 2

Mariah has 3 #1 debuts and 2 #2 debuts, so she has 5 top 2 debuts.