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Post by Gary on Mar 27, 2018 14:51:52 GMT -5
So Lean Back by Terror Squad (featuring Fat Joe & Remy Ma)
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Post by rickroller on Mar 27, 2018 14:58:41 GMT -5
Remy Ma came pretty close to murder, but calling her a chart "star" is a huge stretch... Murdered Nicki, I guess? |
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Post by brady47 on Mar 27, 2018 15:13:33 GMT -5
Has there been a chart star who straight-up murdered someone (proven)? Can't seem to recall. Brandy? Are you referring to her car accident? That wasn't her fault right? |
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Post by Gary on Mar 27, 2018 15:27:55 GMT -5
No criminal charges (insufficient evidence)
However, settled out of court in the civil case
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Post by rainie on Mar 27, 2018 15:30:39 GMT -5
I do agree that there's a huge double standard for enjoying the music of terrible people, and I'm even victim of applying that myself. At the same time, I would put people who have done terrible things in the past and people who have recently/still do terrible things in two different categories, especially when the latter show little/no remorse for their actions or even specifically mention their behavior in their music in a trivial way.
For example, John Lennon died 38 years ago. He may have been a terrible wife beater, but it was a long time ago and there were three completely innocent (to our knowledge) other people in the band with him. However, Tay-Z not only recently murdered someone, but got famous making a song about his the trial while threatening to kill people multiple times. While I don't think The Race is a particularly good song regardless, that makes it even harder to enjoy at least for me.
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Post by renfield75 on Mar 27, 2018 15:36:46 GMT -5
Yeah if we're talking unintentional murder then Vince Neil from Motley Crue killed his friend in a drunken car crash. Deliberate, proven murder? Phil Spector is the most famous one.
Someone else who gets a pass is Gary Glitter. Everyone happily sings his song "Rock'n'Roll Part 2" (the "HEY!" song you hear at sporting events and is often used in movies) and that guy is one of the most vile pedophiles ever.
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Post by Gary on Mar 27, 2018 15:41:39 GMT -5
the part I am not understanding:
The perception seems to be that if you buy a song sung buy someone with a criminal record or stream a song sung by someone with a criminal record, you are supporting or agreeing with anything and everything said artist has ever done. How so?
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Post by deepston on Mar 27, 2018 15:46:12 GMT -5
the part I am not understanding: The perception seems to be that if you buy a song sung buy someone with a criminal record or stream a song sung by someone with a criminal record, you are supporting or agreeing with anything and everything said artist has ever done. How so? You are not agreeing with his ideas but you are supporting the person/band financially. I'd not support any music from someone who murdered another person, music isn't just sound, you create a connection with the artist and a connection with a murderer is something I'd not like to have. |
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Mar 27, 2018 16:04:36 GMT -5
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Post by Gary on Mar 27, 2018 18:26:17 GMT -5
the part I am not understanding: The perception seems to be that if you buy a song sung buy someone with a criminal record or stream a song sung by someone with a criminal record, you are supporting or agreeing with anything and everything said artist has ever done. How so? You are not agreeing with his ideas but you are supporting the person/band financially. I'd not support any music from someone who murdered another person, music isn't just sound, you create a connection with the artist and a connection with a murderer is something I'd not like to have. Let's take a closer look at the "financial support" download a song for $1.29 the artist will get about 6 cents Stream it and the artist will receive a fraction of a penny |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 27, 2018 18:29:51 GMT -5
You are not agreeing with his ideas but you are supporting the person/band financially. I'd not support any music from someone who murdered another person, music isn't just sound, you create a connection with the artist and a connection with a murderer is something I'd not like to have. Let's take a closer look at the "financial support" download a song for $1.29 the artist will get about 6 cents Stream it and the artist will receive a fraction of a penny Financial support is financial support regardless of how large or small. |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 27, 2018 18:30:10 GMT -5
You are not agreeing with his ideas but you are supporting the person/band financially. I'd not support any music from someone who murdered another person, music isn't just sound, you create a connection with the artist and a connection with a murderer is something I'd not like to have. Let's take a closer look at the "financial support" download a song for $1.29 the artist will get about 6 cents Stream it and the artist will receive a fraction of a penny Financial support is financial support regardless of how large or small. |
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Post by deepston on Mar 27, 2018 18:49:32 GMT -5
You are not agreeing with his ideas but you are supporting the person/band financially. I'd not support any music from someone who murdered another person, music isn't just sound, you create a connection with the artist and a connection with a murderer is something I'd not like to have. Let's take a closer look at the "financial support" download a song for $1.29 the artist will get about 6 cents Stream it and the artist will receive a fraction of a penny But that's how artists make money. And going on a concert also counts for financially supporting an artist. |
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Post by mako on Mar 27, 2018 18:59:11 GMT -5
Great week for x. Sad!ly (bad pun) the Spanish song didn't chart.
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Post by Gary on Mar 27, 2018 19:41:36 GMT -5
Many people buy or "consume" music as the term goes, do so for personal value and personal enjoyment. I get that screening the music for criminal behavior is an important issue to some and I respect that.
Just sayin' There are others out there (like myself) that don't give a second thought to how much of the music dollar lands in the artists pocket. When I spend a dollar on music, I may only be looking at whether or not I personally can get a dollar worth of enjoyment from it. If I decide I can't get a dollar worth of enjoyment from the song, I won't spend the dollar
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Post by Gary on Mar 27, 2018 21:32:38 GMT -5
Scotty McCreery ties Clay Aiken's 'American Idol' chart record
Paul Grein
Writer,Yahoo Music•March 26, 2018
Everybody knows that Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson are the most successful contestants ever to step onto the American Idol stage, but who’s the top male contender to appear on the show? There are several contenders for that title, but Scotty McCreery definitely belongs on the shortlist. He lands his fifth top 10 album this week, as Seasons Change enters the Billboard 200 at No. 7. Only one other male Idol contender, Clay Aiken, has amassed five top 10 albums.
Aiken hit the top 10 with his first four regular studio albums and a Christmas album. McCreery’s top 10 tally includes his first three regular studio albums, a Christmas album, and an EP, American Idol Season 10 Highlights: Scotty McCreery.
Which male Idol contestants are next in line? Chris Daughtry has had four top 10 albums, all fronting his band, Daughtry. Adam Lambert has had three. Ruben Studdard, David Cook, and Phillip Phillips each have two.
In case you’ve forgotten, McCreery was the Season 10 champ. Aiken was the runner-up in Season 2. Daughtry placed fourth in Season 5. Lambert was the runner-up in Season 8. Studdard was the Season 2 champ. Cook was the Season 7 champ. Phillips was the Season 11 champ.
Seasons Change enters Top Country Albums at No. 1, displacing Kane Brown’s Kane Brown (which spent nine weeks on top). It’s McCreery’s third No. 1 country album, following Clear as Day (which spent six weeks on top in 2011) and See You Tonight (which spent one week on top in 2013). It’s McCreery’s first album for indie label Triple Tigers, as well as his first album in five years.
Top Albums
XXXTentacion lands his first No. 1 album with the quizzically titled ?. His previous album, 17, debuted and peaked at No. 2 in August.The new album includes XXXTentacion’s first top 10 hit, “Sad!,” which leaps to No. 7 on this week’s Hot 100.
Metallica’s Hardwired…to Self-Destruct rebounds from No. 42 to No. 2 in its 45th chart week. The album debuted at No. 1 in December 2016. The album was boosted by a concert ticket/album sale redemption promotion, similar to the one that sent Bon Jovi’s This House Is Not for Sale back to No. 1 three weeks ago.
Hardwired was the week’s best-selling album in traditional album sales, but it lost out to XXXTentacion when streams and digital track sales were factored in. This is the third time that Hardwired has experienced this fate, putting it in a tie with The Greatest Showman soundtrack as the album that was denied the most weeks at No. 1 by the new (since late 2014) chart formula, which takes all three factors into account.
Black Panther: The Album rebounds from No. 4 to No. 3 in its sixth week. The album had spent three weeks on top. The album is No. 1 on Top Soundtracks for the sixth week. Over the weekend, Black Panther passed The Avengers to become the top-grossing superhero film of all time.
Logic’s Bobby Tarantino II mixtape drops from No. 1 to No. 4 in its second week.
Migos’s Culture II rebounds from No. 7 to No. 5 in its eighth week. The album debuted at No. 1.
The Greatest Showman soundtrack holds on at No. 6 in its 15th week. The album is No. 1 on the Official U.K. Albums Chart for the 11th consecutive week, which enables it to tie Adele’s 21 for the longest continuous run at No. 1 in the U.K. in the last 30 years. 21 spent its first 11 weeks at No. 1 in 2011 (before being dislodged for a week by Foo Fighters’ Wasting Light). The last album to spend more than 11 consecutive weeks at No. 1 in the U.K. was Bob Marley & the Wailers’ posthumous collection, Legend, which spent 12 consecutive weeks on top in 1984.
Ed Sheeran’s ÷ inches up from No. 9 to No. 8 in its 55th week. The album spent its first two weeks at No. 1. It has yet to drop out of the top 20.
The Decemberists land their third consecutive top 10 album, as I’ll Be Your Girl debuts at No. 9. Both the Decemberists and McCreery saw their debut frames enhanced by sales from a concert ticket/album sale redemption offer.
Post Malone’s Stoney holds at No. 10 in its 67th week. The album peaked at No. 4.
Four albums drop out of the top 10 this week. Lil Yachty’s Lil Boat 2 drops from No. 2 to No. 11. David Byrne’s American Utopia plummets from No. 3 to No. 89. Judas Priest’s Firepower dives from No. 5 to No. 52. Jimi Hendrix’s Both Sides of the Sky drops from No. 8 to No. 51.
Stone Temple Pilots’ seventh studio album, Stone Temple Pilots, debuts at a disappointing No. 24. It’s the band’s first studio album to fall short of the top 10. It’s also the group’s first studio album to feature new lead singer Jeff Gutt and the first without original singer Scott Weiland, who was fired from the band in 2013 and died in 2015.
Drake’s Take Care drops from No. 56 to No. 58 in its 264th chart week. The album debuted at No. 1 in December 2011. The album logs its fourth week at No. 1 on Top Catalog Albums.
Coming attractions: Jack White’s third solo album, Boarding House Reach, is on track to debut at No. 1 next week. His first two solo albums achieved that feat. Also due: Toni Braxton’s Sex & Cigarettes, Jordan Davis’s Home State, and George Ezra’s Staying at Tamara’s.
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Drake’s “God’s Plan” becomes just the fifth single in chart history to spend its first nine weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100. The first four, as you would expect, were all ubiquitous smashes. “One Sweet Day” by Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men spent its first 16 weeks on top in 1995-96. Elton John’s “Candle in the Wind 1997″/”Something about the Way You Look Tonight” spent its first 14 weeks on top in 1997. “I’ll Be Missing You” by Puff Daddy and Faith Evans featuring 112 spent its first 11 weeks on top in 1997. Adele’s “Hello” spent its first 10 weeks on top in 2015-16.
“God’s Plan” seems likely to log 10 or more weeks at No. 1. It would be Drake’s second song to do so, following his 2016 smash “One Dance,” which spent 10 weeks on top. Drake is vying to become the second male solo artist with two singles that have logged 10 or more weeks at No. 1. Pharrell Williams was the first, but only combining lead and featured roles. He was featured on Robin Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” (12 weeks on top in 2013) and followed up with his own “Happy” (10 weeks in 2014).
“God’s Plan” logs its ninth week at No. 1 on both the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart and The Official U.K. Singles Chart.
“Meant to Be” by Bebe Rehxa and Florida Georgia Line jumps from No. 4 to No. 2 in its 22nd week. In so doing, it surpasses “Cruise” (featuring Nelly) to become Florida Georgia Line’s highest-charting crossover hit to date. Moreover, it’s the highest-charting single by a core country artist since Taylor Swift’s “We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together” vaulted to No. 1 in September 2012. It’s the highest-charting song by a country group or duo since Lady Antebellum’s “Need You Now” peaked at No. 2 in March 2010. “We Are Never Ever…” received a Grammy nom for Record of the Year. “Need You Now” won Grammys for both Record and Song of the Year.
“Meant to Be” holds at No. 1 on Hot Country Songs for the 17th consecutive week.
Ed Sheeran’s “Perfect” dips from No. 2 to No. 3 in its 30th week. The song logged six weeks at No. 1.
Bruno Mars & Cardi B’s “Finesse” dips from its No. 3 peak to No. 4 in its 12th week.
Post Malone’s “Psycho” (featuring Ty Dolla $ign) holds at No. 5 in its fourth week. The song debuted and peaked at No. 2.
“The Middle” by Zedd, Maren Morris and Grey, holds at its No. 6 peak in its eighth week.
XXXTentacion lands his first top 10 hit as “Sad!” vaults from No. 19 to No. 7 in its third week.
Camila Cabello’s “Havana” (featuring Young Thug) dips from No. 7 to No. 8 in its 32nd week. The song reached No. 1.
Comic rapper Lil Dicky lands his first top 10 hit as “Freaky Friday” (featuring Chris Brown) debuts at No. 9. It’s Brown’s 14th top 10 hit—and his first in nearly four years. The song is boosted by a video that borrows the premise of the body-switching movie of the same name. Ed Sheeran, DJ Khaled and Kendall Jenner make cameos in the video.
“Pray for Me” by The Weeknd & Kendrick Lamar drops from No. 8 to No. 10 in its seventh week. The song peaked at No. 7.
BlocBoy JB’s “Look Alive” (featuring Drake) and Kendrick Lamar & SZA’s “All the Stars” drop out of the top 10 this week.
Lin-Manuel Miranda lands his second No. 1 hit on Top Digital Songs as “Found/Tonight,” a pairing with fellow Broadway star Ben Platt, dethrones Drake’s “God’s Plan,” which spent six weeks on top. “Found/Tonight” sold 61K copies in its first week. Miranda first topped the digital sales chart in October with “Almost like Praying,” featuring Artists for Puerto Rico. Both of Miranda’s No. 1 digital hits have been philanthropic in nature. A portion of proceeds from “Found/Tonight” benefits the March for Our Lives initiative. “Almost like Praying” was recorded in response to Hurricane Maria.
“Found/Tonight” is a mash-up of two songs from the artists’ Tony-Award-winning musicals: Hamilton’s “The Story of Tonight” and Dear Evan Hansen’s “You Will Be Found.”
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Post by iHype. on Mar 27, 2018 22:09:51 GMT -5
There's so much people that'd be considered criminals or bad people that anyone has supported in music, movies, TV whether they knew it or not.
Not to excuse supporting XXXTentacion and 6IX9INE since I will never support either, but it's whatever. The shock value their personas create and the discussions they get from them only help them get more promotion/publicity. And at the end of the day, they aren't actual huge A-list level musicians so I'm not even gonna give them the energy. Getting a #1 on Billboard 200 isn't a huge accomplishment currently (as seen with artists slapping on albums with tour tickets to re-enter #1) or 1-2 top 10s isn't anything I'm gonna lose sleep complaining over. At the end of the day they'll fall into irrelevancy in 1-2 years anyways. Just another questionable trend/fad.
When we have Donald Trump as a president, people supporting anyone with a disregard to morals doesn't really surprise anymore.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 27, 2018 22:24:23 GMT -5
A month ago after Hedley performed in Halifax, a friend of mine on Facebook said something like "anyone who to see Hedley last night have something very wrong with them" or something. Now, whether one chooses to still support artists who have questionable pasts is up to them. But I was annoyed at the hypocrisy of this person because he's constantly posting videos and comments of praise for classic rock bands and artists, some of whom are known to have been violent toward women, abusive, or Pete Townsend. So I replied saying something about how he loves John Lennon and James Brown. And his response was "but their music is actually good." So really, when it comes to artists and their bad behaviour and #boycotting, people only do it when it suits them. Suddenly the "something very wrong with them" was no longer about the sexual exploitation charges against Hedley but because that person didn't like their music and they were able to justify that with something secondary like sexual assault. Which, to me, is in so much more poor taste than supporting abusive artists anyway. Using sexual assault to support your own music elitism and snobbery is disgusting. I think there are more layers to it than that. Some examples: 1. When did you find out the artists abused women (or whatever the issue is)? For instance, I listened to The Beatles music before I knew about Lennon, so I had an attachment to the music before knowing about the artist. That is tougher to separate than a new artist with a past where I don’t know the music so I can go ahead and dismiss the artist before having any attachment. 2. Many of the older artists are dead, so supporting their music isn’t directly benefiting them in the way purchasing and legally streaming music of a living abuser is literally giving them a career. That's fair. Just that my point is that this particular person said people should be ashamed of themselves for supporting an artist who sexually assaulted underage girls but he does the same thing through artists he likes. If you're going to call people out for supporting "immoral" artists, only to turn around and make it about the music and not the action, suddenly it's not about the violence at all, it's about the music. I get what you mean about the artists in my example being dead. But there are other examples of still living/still performing artists who get respect and admiration despite their actions from these people who are suddenly quick to jump on the Hedley/Chris Brown/Ryan Seacrest bandwagon because it's convenient. It isn't about shooting them down because of their actions against women, it's because they don't like their music but now they have more ammo to dismiss "today's music" because #musictodaysucks. It's pure elitism and it's bullshit. Many people buy or "consume" music as the term goes, do so for personal value and personal enjoyment. I get that screening the music for criminal behavior is an important issue to some and I respect that. Just sayin' There are others out there (like myself) that don't give a second thought to how much of the music dollar lands in the artists pocket. When I spend a dollar on music, I may only be looking at whether or not I personally can get a dollar worth of enjoyment from it. If I decide I can't get a dollar worth of enjoyment from the song, I won't spend the dollar Out of curiosity, do you ever/often get flack because you support artists who are known to have questionable pasts (recent or distant)? I ask because you really seem at odds with people who do choose to not support them. I mean, I definitely see both sides of why people choose to boycott artists or choose to simply dismiss those backstories and enjoy the music as is. I think a lot of it just comes down to how you interact with the music. For some (like you), it's about enjoying the song as it is and nothing more than that. For others, it's about finding some deeper connection with the song and the people involved in its creation. For some, the actions of the artists 'taint' the work they do, which makes it hard to enjoy the music and as you said, it all comes down to if they enjoy the music or not. For some, enjoyment is ruined by association. There's nothing wrong with that if that's how they interact with the music. Just like, I don't think there's anything really wrong with someone choosing to continue watching Cosby Show reruns if they're able to still get enjoyment out of them. |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Mar 28, 2018 0:06:12 GMT -5
The key grip in The Dark Knight was caught having a sexual relationship with his sister.
Time to throw all Blu-Ray away. Don't want to continue to support that
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Post by 85la on Mar 28, 2018 0:26:14 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, do you ever/often get flack because you support artists who are known to have questionable pasts (recent or distant)? I ask because you really seem at odds with people who do choose to not support them. I mean, I definitely see both sides of why people choose to boycott artists or choose to simply dismiss those backstories and enjoy the music as is. I think a lot of it just comes down to how you interact with the music. For some (like you), it's about enjoying the song as it is and nothing more than that. For others, it's about finding some deeper connection with the song and the people involved in its creation. For some, the actions of the artists 'taint' the work they do, which makes it hard to enjoy the music and as you said, it all comes down to if they enjoy the music or not. For some, enjoyment is ruined by association. There's nothing wrong with that if that's how they interact with the music. Just like, I don't think there's anything really wrong with someone choosing to continue watching Cosby Show reruns if they're able to still get enjoyment out of them. This is exactly how I feel very often, especially with someone like Chris Brown, although I probably wouldn't like a lot of his more recent stuff anyway. Some people also mentioned earlier if whether the behavior is in the past or the present and if they are still engaging in it, and whether they have "atoned for their sins" so to speak. Chris Brown clearly has not done this and continues to show douchey behavior and little remorse for what he's done, so I definitely will not go out of my way to seek his music, and I absolutely will not pay for it. |
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Post by Gary on Mar 28, 2018 6:50:52 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, do you ever/often get flack because you support artists who are known to have questionable pasts (recent or distant)? I ask because you really seem at odds with people who do choose to not support them. I mean, I definitely see both sides of why people choose to boycott artists or choose to simply dismiss those backstories and enjoy the music as is. I think a lot of it just comes down to how you interact with the music. For some (like you), it's about enjoying the song as it is and nothing more than that. For others, it's about finding some deeper connection with the song and the people involved in its creation. For some, the actions of the artists 'taint' the work they do, which makes it hard to enjoy the music and as you said, it all comes down to if they enjoy the music or not. For some, enjoyment is ruined by association. There's nothing wrong with that if that's how they interact with the music. Just like, I don't think there's anything really wrong with someone choosing to continue watching Cosby Show reruns if they're able to still get enjoyment out of them. As I said in the post you quoted, I get that it is an important issue to some and I respect that. It does not mean I am at odds with people who can't separate politics and music. It just means I do not. I disagree with the assertions ad assumptions that are made when a political issue gets posted on website and I don't immediately jump on the boycott bandwagon. I guess that is where t he difference lies. "To each his own" goes both ways. Whether it is music or movies or TV. If it interests me, I will pay the money to enjoy it. There is no burning of my Cosby Show Dvd's for example. Not going to turn a movie off because one of the actors has a criminal record. Also not going to dismiss a song a like because it is "politically correct" to boycott it. As a longtime music and song collector obsessed with music charts, I support all music, always have. If I like the song, I buy it. Never been to a music store where the CD came with "Warning: this guy has 3 past felony convictions" You are not buying the felony convictions, you are buying the music. To those that don't, I respect that. |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Mar 28, 2018 7:13:20 GMT -5
I don't know if this is a good example, but Glee sold 40 million singles and 10 million albums before one of the main singers was arrested for pedophilia and killed himself a couple months ago. If you go under some of the covers that Mark Salling did, a lot of people either don't know or don't care. He was arrested for child pornography, to be specific. Pedophilia is a mental disorder. And you can't be criminally charged for having a mental disorder. Just a nitpick. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 28, 2018 8:01:39 GMT -5
the part I am not understanding: The perception seems to be that if you buy a song sung buy someone with a criminal record or stream a song sung by someone with a criminal record, you are supporting or agreeing with anything and everything said artist has ever done. How so? Because you are literally funding their life and keeping them relevant. Look at R Kelly, who still gets to record and tour and prey on women. What if instead of people llistening to his music and thus keeping him held in high regard, people boycotted him and sent the message to underage girls that what he does is not ok? In other words, if someone can do the sh*t he and Chris Brown have done, why would kids think it’s bad if we as a culture still allow them to be celebrities and do what they do? |
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Post by Gary on Mar 28, 2018 8:14:03 GMT -5
the part I am not understanding: The perception seems to be that if you buy a song sung buy someone with a criminal record or stream a song sung by someone with a criminal record, you are supporting or agreeing with anything and everything said artist has ever done. How so? Because you are literally funding their life and keeping them relevant. Look at R Kelly, who still gets to record and tour and prey on women. What if instead of people llistening to his music and thus keeping him held in high regard, people boycotted him and sent the message to underage girls that what he does is not ok? In other words, if someone can do the sh*t he and Chris Brown have done, why would kids think it’s bad if we as a culture still allow them to be celebrities and do what they do? When I put down a dollar for an itunes download or 10 dollars for a CD, I am buying the music, not their personal life. Artists get pennies on the dollar downstream. If the pennies on the dollar they get from my purchase is "literally funding their life and keeping them relevant" then so be it. I support the music, whatever political spin you want to put on it - fine |
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 28, 2018 8:23:49 GMT -5
Many people buy or "consume" music as the term goes, do so for personal value and personal enjoyment. I get that screening the music for criminal behavior is an important issue to some and I respect that. Just sayin' There are others out there (like myself) that don't give a second thought to how much of the music dollar lands in the artists pocket. When I spend a dollar on music, I may only be looking at whether or not I personally can get a dollar worth of enjoyment from it. If I decide I can't get a dollar worth of enjoyment from the song, I won't spend the dollar Have you ever wondered if your dollars in those pockets help allow those people to continue doing what they do? Because you are literally funding their life and keeping them relevant. Look at R Kelly, who still gets to record and tour and prey on women. What if instead of people llistening to his music and thus keeping him held in high regard, people boycotted him and sent the message to underage girls that what he does is not ok? In other words, if someone can do the sh*t he and Chris Brown have done, why would kids think it’s bad if we as a culture still allow them to be celebrities and do what they do? When I put down a dollar for an itunes download or 10 dollars for a CD, I am buying the music, not their personal life. Artists get pennies on the dollar downstream. If the pennies on the dollar they get from my purchase is "literally funding their life and keeping them relevant" then so be it. I support the music, whatever political spin you want to put on it - fine It might not be your main intent, but buying the art of an artist IS literally funding their life. That’s just fact. |
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Post by Gary on Mar 28, 2018 8:31:07 GMT -5
Many people buy or "consume" music as the term goes, do so for personal value and personal enjoyment. I get that screening the music for criminal behavior is an important issue to some and I respect that. Just sayin' There are others out there (like myself) that don't give a second thought to how much of the music dollar lands in the artists pocket. When I spend a dollar on music, I may only be looking at whether or not I personally can get a dollar worth of enjoyment from it. If I decide I can't get a dollar worth of enjoyment from the song, I won't spend the dollar Have you ever wondered if your dollars in those pockets help allow those people to continue doing what they do? When I put down a dollar for an itunes download or 10 dollars for a CD, I am buying the music, not their personal life. Artists get pennies on the dollar downstream. If the pennies on the dollar they get from my purchase is "literally funding their life and keeping them relevant" then so be it. I support the music, whatever political spin you want to put on it - fine It might not be your main intent, but buying the art of an artist IS literally funding their life. That’s just fact. I get enjoyment out of the art. Good enough for me. The dollar from my pocket does not go directly to them, others get paid along the way before they see anything. In they end on an itunes song they get about 6 cents on the dollar, maybe less. If that is funding their life - so be it. I respect your right to screen the backgrounds of artists of every song you listen to or purchase and boycott as you see fit. I don't have time to do that and if the song appeals to me, I really don't care that much. I have no interest in mixing politics and music - period. (Same goes for TV and movies) |
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Sherane Lamar
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Mar 28, 2018 17:31:35 GMT -5
R. Kelly's victim was a male.
Not saying that makes it ok. But the circumstances surrounding R. Kelly's charge sounds a lot different than the circumstances around Chris Brown or the average woman abuser.
My personal judgement of a person like R. Kelly who committed battery in what appears to be a "street brawl", is a lot different than a person who beats a woman that he's in a relationship with.
IDK. Maybe that makes my personal judgement sexist or biased. I never act on those first reaction judgments anyway, because I don't know the person and I don't know the situation surrounding them. Just like I wouldn't act on a rumor about a coworker in real life.
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Post by Gary on Mar 28, 2018 18:51:08 GMT -5
Shape Of You falls after 62 weeks in Canada
Despacito still charting after 60 weeks
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Post by Gary on Mar 28, 2018 18:51:36 GMT -5
Canada Hot 100 longevity leaders
76 I Gotta Feeling, The Black Eyed Peas
74 Call Me Maybe, Carly Rae Jepsen
71 Radioactive, Imagine Dragons
69 Rude, MAGIC!
66 Happy, Pharrell Williams
66 Titanium, David Guetta Featuring Sia
65 Viva La Vida, Coldplay
64 All Of Me, John Legend
64 Rolling In The Deep, Adele
64 Uptown Funk!, Mark Ronson Featuring Bruno Mars
63 Party Rock Anthem, LMFAO Featuring Lauren Bennett & GoonRock
62 Counting Stars, OneRepublic
62 Shape Of You , Ed Sheeran
61 Paralyzer, Finger Eleven
61 Apologize, Timbaland Featuring OneRepublic
61 Ho Hey, The Lumineers
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Post by imbondz on Mar 28, 2018 18:52:21 GMT -5
The older I get the harder it is for me to separate an artist from how they present themselves, or past deeds, or illegal stuff they’ve done...etc. that’s why I’d rather not know an artists politics. Don’t care what you think just play good music.
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