Billboard Hot 100: 4/14/2018

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

April 12, 2003

01 01 In Da Club - 50 Cent (6th of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Ignition (Remix) - R. Kelly
03 06 Get Busy - Sean Paul
04 04 Picture - Kid Rock feat. Sheryl Crow or Allison Moorer
05 03 Miss You - Aaliyah
06 07 When I'm Gone - 3 Doors Down
07 12 Beautiful - Snoop Dogg feat. Pharrell & Charlie Wilson
08 09 Excuse Me Miss - Jay-Z
09 05 All I Have - Jennifer Lopez feat. LL Cool J
10 08 How You Gonna Act Like That - Tyrese


April 12, 2008

01 15 Touch My Body - Mariah Carey (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 02 Love In This Club - Usher feat. Young Jeezy
03 68 4 Minutes - Madonna feat. Justin Timberlake
04 01 Bleeding Love - Leona Lewis
05 06 No Air - Jordin Sparks & Chris Brown
06 03 Sexy Can I - Ray J & Yung Berg
07 09 Lollipop - Lil Wayne feat. Static Major
08 04 With You - Chris Brown
09 05 Love Song - Sara Bareilles
10 07 Low - Flo Rida feat. T-Pain

12 40 You're Gonna Miss This - Trace Adkins
22 NE Beat It - Fall Out Boy feat. John Mayer


April 13, 2013

01 01 Thrift Shop - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz (6th and final week at #1)
02 04 When I Was Your Man - Bruno Mars
03 03 Suit & Tie - Justin Timberlake feat. Jay-Z
04 02 Harlem Shake - Baauer
05 06 Just Give Me a Reason - P!nk feat. Nate Ruess
06 05 Stay - Rihanna feat. Mikky Ekko
07 15 Radioactive - Imagine Dragons
08 07 Started From The Bottom - Drake
09 08 Feel This Moment - Pitbull feat. Christina Aguilera
10 NE The Way - Ariana Grande feat. Mac Miller


April 15, 2017

01 01 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran (10th of 12 weeks at #1)
02 02 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars
03 07 Something Just Like This - The Chainsmokers & Coldplay
04 05 I Feel It Coming - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
05 12 iSpy - Kyle feat. Lil Yachty
06 04 Bad And Boujee - Migos feat. Lil Uzi Vert
07 03 I Don't Wanna Live Forever - Zayn & Taylor Swift
08 06 Tunnel Vision - Kodak Black
09 10 Paris - The Chainsmokers
10 08 Passionfruit - Drake

[KeepDeanWeird]

Apr 7, 2018 18:42:12 GMT -5 Gary said:

Apr 7, 2018 18:27:11 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

Even if he was to do it, it wouldn't be the same as when the Beatles did it.  Remember in 1964 the only way to chart on the Hot 100 was with a commercially released single.  The Beatles achievement was considered so extraordinary because nobody else even had that many singles out at the same time back then, much less 5 of them that became such big selling hits.  Not to mention the high amount of airplay that would have been necessary for those songs to chart that high as well.

Today any song off an album or EP can chart as long as it has enough streaming, sales or airplay points.  The Hot 100 ceased to be strictly a singles chart at the end of 1998, and that has led to some unprecedented results in more recent years; like certain artists charting every (or almost every) single track from their newly released albums; Drake himself included.

If Drake were to tie the Top 5 singles record, and I agree it seems possible that he could, it still wouldn't be the same thing that the Beatles accomplished under very different circumstances in 1964.

It'd be like comparing apples to oranges.

Virtually any statistic is like that.  Need to look at it from the time period it came from

Other examples of really watered down stats

Most chart hits simultaneously
Biggest Jump to #1
Highest debut on the Hot 100
Debuting at#1
Most hits from one album

Correct. As we know, the H100 also has changed many times - it only included Pop airplay, but all-genre physical releases until the big 1998 all-format airplay change, which is how we ended up with gold singles from other formats that missed the Top 40 ("Juicy Fruit" and "Swingin'" come to mind). During the years, non-physical singles and 12" singles couldn't chart, A/B sides rules flip-flopped, at some point in 60s/70s I think it only included sales, the exclusion of Xmas singles, and on and on and on. As we know the charts prior to 1991 (pre-BDS/SoundScan), were fraught with manipulation from labels, records store reporting, radio stations playlists, etc. Even though Billboard could (and does) manipulate the charts through weighing, we still had the raw data.

And as renfield75 noted, the difference between a single sale and streaming is huge on the chart. I've said it many times before, my big beef with streaming points is that they are not balanced with plays after a track is purchased. For chart purposes, it's definitely better to stream than buy.

[Gary]

From 1968 to about mid-1973 - The top 50 was just a sales chart, the bottom 50 included airplay

[fhas]

I wonder how hard Call Out My Name is gonna fall in its second week. It's already down to #52 on iTunes, #16 on Apple Music, "only" 1.7M on Spotify vs. 3.5M last week. COMN's numbers are pretty similar to SAD's and the latter is fighting for #10 this week.

EDIT: Spotify has updated yesterday's numbers and COMN fell from #2 to #5.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Not to mention, 0 radio ...

[chartslovergermany]

i expect that „i like it“ from cardi b will be a top 5 hit if she releases it as a single and bring out a music video

[iHype.]

Apr 8, 2018 2:05:15 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Apr 8, 2018 0:56:15 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Being fair though, doing it with album cuts I think should be considered the same. 

Beatles had huge unprecedented success that will probably never be matched again but I'm not exactly sure the entire GP was listening to 5+ Beatles singles on repeat.

That had to be the result of their absolutely huge core fanbase consuming their music non-stop. Same as if someone had 5 songs at the top today and some weren't even singles -- it'd be the result of an absolutely huge core fanbase consuming music non-stop.

It's not the same at all. Because it was the era of physical singles, each hardcore fan's purchase of that single counted exactly one time for the chart (unless they bought multiple copies of the same single every week for several weeks, which I would have to imagine would be an incredibly small number of people). Whereas in the streaming era one Drake fan can listen to a song 50 times a week for three months and have all those plays count. For the Beatles to sustain that many singles for that many weeks they had to appeal to people outside of their fanbase, even as massive as it was. Physical single sales reflected the number of unique people who purchased the single (again, minus the small number of fans who bought multiple copies of the same song) and each purchase only counted once toward the Hot 100. Streaming numbers reflect every time every person listens to that song ever. Waaaaaay different.

But you also have to keep in mind: the consumption pool is much bigger today than in the 1960s. 


Yes, a Drake fan can play a song 50 times but the entire population's song plays also count now. 100 million+ people stream every week. Compared to the singles days... were 100 million+ people buying singles each week? So yes, 50 plays count, but do they count in a larger percentage when there's billions of streams each week? 

Also per the current Hot 100 formula; 208 streams~ are counted as much as 1 sale. I don't think anyone listens to a song 208 times in a week. 

[kcdawg13]

Call Out My Name will likely drop out of the Top 20 next week, I think left over streaming will keep it from falling really hard, it'll probably drop to #22 or something like that. But I don't see it staying for very long, sales have died and it has no airplay, plus streaming has started to fall off. I don't think this will recover unless The Weeknd starts actually pushing it.

Is there any early projections for where Nice For What is gonna debut? I'm assuming Top 5, because it's Drake.

[renaboss]

Yes, do keep us posted on "Nice for What" guys. I actually just want that to take over for #1 next week.

[renaboss]

Can someone please tell me what song Cardi samples the "I like it like that" part from? It is soooo familiar.

[Choco]

Cardi B's "I Like It" contains a sample from 1967's "I Like It Like That", written and performed by Pete Rodriguez. The 1994 cover by the Blackout All-Stars was much more popular. Considering Cardi's Latin roots, she probably got the idea for the sample from the cover which featured several huge Latin stars.

Wikipedia and Rap Genius are usually pretty good sources for that kind of information, btw. Genius even includes some interviews and quotes about the lyrics from songs when available.

[garrettlen]

Apr 8, 2018 9:20:36 GMT -5 Gary said:

The Beatles deal was that multiple labels at the same time had rights to their early singles, when they hit it big with I wanna Hold Your Hand, the other labels jumped on the bandwagon and released everything they had from a year or two earlier and they became hits too

4 labels account for the 5 Beatles songs

True, but that's only because Capitol records, the American label that the British company EMI owned, refused to release any Beatles' singles at first because they "didn't think they would do anything in this (American) market."   History would eventually show just how wrong they were.

In any case, after Capitol's rejection, the Beatles shopped around for smaller US (and in one case even a Canadian) labels to release their singles on.  At first, Capitol records appeared to be correct, as the Beatles didn't make much of a dent in 1963.  Eventually Capitol records did agree to release a new Beatles' single; and that single "I Want to Hold Your Hand" went on to become a monster hit; not only giving the Beatles their first #1 hit in the US, but also setting off the phenomenon known as Beatlemania which would engulf the US for the first few months of 1964.

Now that the Beatles were immensely popular, retailers and fans were desperately looking for any other Beatle product that they could sell or buy.  Seeing a cash opportunity, the old labels that had the rights to the old singles, re-released the older songs and then watched as they were bought by the boatload by the fans and as they too started rapidly moving up the Hot 100 chart as well.

That's why there were so many Beatles' singles in the marketplace in early 1964.  Along with the massive sales of Beatles product, the radio airwaves were exploding with Beatle music during that time period as well.  Which led to the incredible feat of capturing the top 5 spots on the Billboard Hot 100 the week of April 4th, 1964.

By the way, along with the top 5 the week of 4/4/1964, the Beatles also held 7 other spots on that week's Hot 100 chart; for a total of 12.  The following week of 4/11/64, they added 2 more songs for a total of 14 songs on the Hot 100 in one week, a record that they held for many, many years.

[Zach]

Apr 8, 2018 15:25:40 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

Apr 8, 2018 9:20:36 GMT -5 Gary said:

The Beatles deal was that multiple labels at the same time had rights to their early singles, when they hit it big with I wanna Hold Your Hand, the other labels jumped on the bandwagon and released everything they had from a year or two earlier and they became hits too

4 labels account for the 5 Beatles songs

True, but that's only because Capitol records, the American label that the British company EMI owned, refused to release any Beatles' singles at first because they "didn't think they would do anything in this (American) market."   History would eventually show just how wrong they were.

In any case, after Capitol's rejection, the Beatles shopped around for smaller US (and in one case even a Canadian) labels to release their singles on.  Eventually Capitol records did agree to release a new Beatles' single; and that single "I Want to Hold Your Hand" went on to be a monster hit, not only giving the Beatles their first #1 hit in the US, but also setting off the phenomena known as Beatlemania which would engulf the US for the first few months of 1964.

Now that the Beatles were immensely popular, fans and retailers were dying to find any Beatle product to buy or sell.  Seeing a cash opportunity, the old labels that had the rights to the old singles, re-released the older songs and then watched as they were bought by the boatload by the kids and marveled as these songs went sprinting up the charts as well.

That's why there were so many Beatles' singles in the marketplace in early 1964.  Along with the massive sales of Beatles product, the radio airwaves were just exploding with Beatle music during that time period as well.  Which led to the incredible feat of capturing the top 5 spots on the Billboard Hot 100 the week of April 4th, 1964.  

This is honestly the most interesting thing I've read all year. I knew that the 5 songs weren't all from the same label but I didn't know it was as many as FOUR different labels. How did that many labels get their hands on the rights to the songs though? Did they get the rights during the process of The Beatles shopping around?

[renaboss]

Apr 8, 2018 15:02:22 GMT -5 Choco said:

Cardi B's "I Like It" contains a sample from 1967's "I Like It Like That", written and performed by Pete Rodriguez. The 1994 cover by the Blackout All-Stars was much more popular. Considering Cardi's Latin roots, she probably got the idea for the sample from the cover which featured several huge Latin stars.

Wikipedia and Rap Genius are usually pretty good sources for that kind of information, btw. Genius even includes some interviews and quotes about the lyrics from songs when available.

I was listening to the album's tracks based off of its Wikipedia page, but "I Like It" doesn't have its own page. I googled the "I like it like that" thing but came to no conclusive result, and since I was already here, figured I might just ask. Didn't know about Genius, thanks!

[renaboss]

"The Middle" is FINALLY growing on me. For some reason I love that "pull me inches" part.

[jayhawk1117]

So first day steams for Nice For What are "only" 2.2m. It's possible day 2 could be higher though. So a number one debut seems out of the question but top 3 is still possible

[Golden Bluebird]

[Choco]

Apr 8, 2018 16:13:22 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

So first day steams for Nice For What are "only" 2.2m. It's possible day 2 could be higher though. So a number one debut seems out of the question but top 3 is still possible

Pretty low for Drake, but of course it could grow... Would have expected a bigger debut after God's Plan though.

[Gary]

Apr 8, 2018 15:25:40 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

Apr 8, 2018 9:20:36 GMT -5 Gary said:

The Beatles deal was that multiple labels at the same time had rights to their early singles, when they hit it big with I wanna Hold Your Hand, the other labels jumped on the bandwagon and released everything they had from a year or two earlier and they became hits too

4 labels account for the 5 Beatles songs

True, but that's only because Capitol records, the American label that the British company EMI owned, refused to release any Beatles' singles at first because they "didn't think they would do anything in this (American) market."   History would eventually show just how wrong they were.

In any case, after Capitol's rejection, the Beatles shopped around for smaller US (and in one case even a Canadian) labels to release their singles on.  At first, Capitol records appeared to be correct, as the Beatles didn't make much of a dent in 1963.  Eventually Capitol records did agree to release a new Beatles' single; and that single "I Want to Hold Your Hand" went on to become a monster hit; not only giving the Beatles their first #1 hit in the US, but also setting off the phenomenon known as Beatlemania which would engulf the US for the first few months of 1964.

Now that the Beatles were immensely popular, retailers and fans were desperately looking for any other Beatle product that they could sell or buy.  Seeing a cash opportunity, the old labels that had the rights to the old singles, re-released the older songs and then watched as they were bought by the boatload by the fans and as they too started rapidly moving up the Hot 100 chart as well.

That's why there were so many Beatles' singles in the marketplace in early 1964.  Along with the massive sales of Beatles product, the radio airwaves were exploding with Beatle music during that time period as well.  Which led to the incredible feat of capturing the top 5 spots on the Billboard Hot 100 the week of April 4th, 1964.

By the way, along with the top 5 the week of 4/4/1964, the Beatles also held 7 other spots on that week's Hot 100 chart; for a total of 12.  The following week of 4/11/64, they added 2 more songs for a total of 14 songs on the Hot 100 in one week, a record that they held for many, many years.

Yes, I posted most of that

They also had the top 9 on the Canada chart that week

[garrettlen]

Apr 8, 2018 16:43:34 GMT -5 Gary said:

Apr 8, 2018 15:25:40 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

True, but that's only because Capitol records, the American label that the British company EMI owned, refused to release any Beatles' singles at first because they "didn't think they would do anything in this (American) market."   History would eventually show just how wrong they were.

In any case, after Capitol's rejection, the Beatles shopped around for smaller US (and in one case even a Canadian) labels to release their singles on.  At first, Capitol records appeared to be correct, as the Beatles didn't make much of a dent in 1963.  Eventually Capitol records did agree to release a new Beatles' single; and that single "I Want to Hold Your Hand" went on to become a monster hit; not only giving the Beatles their first #1 hit in the US, but also setting off the phenomenon known as Beatlemania which would engulf the US for the first few months of 1964.

Now that the Beatles were immensely popular, retailers and fans were desperately looking for any other Beatle product that they could sell or buy.  Seeing a cash opportunity, the old labels that had the rights to the old singles, re-released the older songs and then watched as they were bought by the boatload by the fans and as they too started rapidly moving up the Hot 100 chart as well.

That's why there were so many Beatles' singles in the marketplace in early 1964.  Along with the massive sales of Beatles product, the radio airwaves were exploding with Beatle music during that time period as well.  Which led to the incredible feat of capturing the top 5 spots on the Billboard Hot 100 the week of April 4th, 1964.

By the way, along with the top 5 the week of 4/4/1964, the Beatles also held 7 other spots on that week's Hot 100 chart; for a total of 12.  The following week of 4/11/64, they added 2 more songs for a total of 14 songs on the Hot 100 in one week, a record that they held for many, many years.

Yes, I posted most of that

They also had the top 9 on the Canada chart that week

Just wanted to flesh the story out a bit more, hope you don't mind.

[Gary]

No worries

[kindofbiased]

Apr 8, 2018 13:56:15 GMT -5 chartslovergermany said:

i expect that „i like it“ from cardi b will be a top 5 hit if she releases it as a single and bring out a music video

It's doing the best out of all the songs off Invasion Of Privacy (including the singles) on both iTunes and Spotify. Once she releases it as an official single it's gonna blow up. Probably one of the biggest hits of the summer.

[rfucom]

I like it seens more instant hit than NFW. But i love both.

[rfucom]

Apr 8, 2018 14:47:15 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Yes, do keep us posted on "Nice for What" guys. I actually just want that to take over for #1 next week.

Highly not possible if the 1st day streams is only 2.2M with dark red on itunes and less airplay.

[kanfad]

Apr 8, 2018 17:43:24 GMT -5 rfucom said:

Apr 8, 2018 14:47:15 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Yes, do keep us posted on "Nice for What" guys. I actually just want that to take over for #1 next week.

Highly not possible if the 1st day streams is only 2.2M with dark red on itunes and less airplay.

But wasnt God's plans first day about 2.4 million. Then it grew to 3.3 on a sunday then 4.4 the day after that

[rfucom]

Apr 8, 2018 18:06:20 GMT -5 kanfad said:

Apr 8, 2018 17:43:24 GMT -5 rfucom said:

Highly not possible if the 1st day streams is only 2.2M with dark red on itunes and less airplay.

But wasnt God's plans first day about 2.4 million. Then it grew to 3.3 on a sunday then 4.4 the day after that

we'll see if NFW will have a bigger streams in coming days. But if you compare the itunes difference between this and cardis i like it, it only have 50% more sales than if you compare GP on its debut day when it makes other songs look like not selling at all. (Plus i do not know if urban and rhytmic stations started playing NFW.)

[jayhawk1117]

Apr 8, 2018 18:11:17 GMT -5 rfucom said:

Apr 8, 2018 18:06:20 GMT -5 kanfad said:

But wasnt God's plans first day about 2.4 million. Then it grew to 3.3 on a sunday then 4.4 the day after that

we'll see if NFW will have a bigger streams in coming days. But if you compare the itunes difference between this and cardis i like it, it only have 50% more sales than if you compare GP on its debut day when it makes other songs look like not selling at all. (Plus i do not know if urban and rhytmic stations started playing NFW.)

God's Plan was his first single in a year so that helped

[kindofbiased]

Plus we need to consider that pretty much nothing else that would've been a big hit was released the Friday that God's Plan came out. An NF single that did nothing? A Justin Timberlake single after Filthy was already tanking? There was not a lot of competition that week, unlike this week.

[fhas]

Apr 8, 2018 14:19:05 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Call Out My Name will likely drop out of the Top 20 next week, I think left over streaming will keep it from falling really hard, it'll probably drop to #22 or something like that. But I don't see it staying for very long, sales have died and it has no airplay, plus streaming has started to fall off. I don't think this will recover unless The Weeknd starts actually pushing it.

Is there any early projections for where Nice For What is gonna debut? I'm assuming Top 5, because it's Drake.

I'm trying to estimate next week's chart based off two days of Spotify, one day of YouTube and Kworb's last iTunes update, so it's not accurate but... COMN: -51%, 18,000 points

It's almost impossible to predict Nice For What's numbers before we have at least one more Spotify update, but if it doesn't fall hard I think #2 is the best bet for NFW's debut.

An interesting development for the weeks to come is that Psycho is finally surging on YouTube (1.90M views this Friday vs. 1.58M the week before) and it's already #1 on Pandora.

[dynamac]

Apr 8, 2018 16:29:46 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

Really happy OKRA will make it but bummed that Welcome to the Rodeo missed out