Why does Mariah Carey only have 5 Grammy wins?

[♫.Fan]

Her vocal peers Whitney, Xtina, and Aretha all have more than her. Why?

[Fat Ass Kelly Price]

It’s even more disheartening considering how involved she actually is in the creation of her music vs those you mentioned in your post.

[Verisimilitude]

Again, this isn't ATRL.

[collegedropout]

Xtina and Aretha aren't really her peers. They are of a different generation. Whitney is her peer yes and she only has one more Grammy than her. Celine is another peer and she has five as well.

[jenglisbe]

I think it’s several reasons. She obviously started well with the New Artist win and a somewhat surprising Pop Female win for “Vision of Love” (I think Better Midler was the favorite with her hit since she’d won Record of the Year the year before). It was just a bit random she didn’t win over the next few years; she lost to Grammy faves like Bonnie Raitt and of course Whitney when she had her massive year. Things looked great when she led all nominees the year of Daydream...but then lost them all. I think it was because people felt Tommy was a major reason for her success. Her shut out was backlash. I mean, it’s ridiculous she didn’t at least win Pop Collaboration and Pop Album. Mariah then lost label support the years after that because of the divorce, so any nominations she got were a bomnus of sorts.

Mariah obviously had her big comeback with TEOM and again led the nominations. This time she at least won 3 awards. She was (again) shut out of the top awards, though. It is surprising, but I think being against Kanye didn’t help as they split votes a bit. It’s hard for R&B and hip-hop to win in the big categories.

In terms of being compared to other divas, it’s not that simple. Whitney only has 1 more Grammy than Mariah, and half of her wins are for the huge The Bodyguard. In other words, Whitney wasn’t exactly a Grammys fave. Madonna has the same number of Grammys as Mariah I believe, most in ‘minor’ categories. Celine has an AOTY win and a ROTY win, both for huge projects. Mariah actually has more AOTY and ROTY nominations than Whitney, Celine, and Madonna though.

Christina has the same number of wins as Mariah with 5. She hasn’t ever been nominated for AOTY or ROTY, and she’s been a bit ‘lucky’ because of Pop Collaboration.

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Cause it really is the Scammys lbr folks
In all seriousness though, at the end of the day, queens like Mariah & Whitney(rip our heavenly angel) don't need awards to validate their talent or success

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May 1, 2018 19:48:37 GMT -5 collegedropout said:

Xtina and Aretha aren't really her peers. They are of a different generation. Whitney is her peer yes and she only has one more Grammy than her. Celine is another peer and she has five as well.

Right and the easy answer is Grammy's weren't popularity contests the way the are now. Also, Aretha is unmatched and her career spans several decades.

[collegedropout]

There are also more awards today. Mariah and Whitney would have won a couple of pop vocal album awards. They also faced each other a few times. Not like Beyonce and Alicia Keys who never faced off in the 2000s.

[Albie]

May 1, 2018 19:48:37 GMT -5 collegedropout said:

Xtina and Aretha aren't really her peers. They are of a different generation. Whitney is her peer yes and she only has one more Grammy than her. Celine is another peer and she has five as well.

he said vocal peers. Straight trolling. I love Christina but even in her heyday that was false.

[Sherane Lamar]

Because the people who vote on the grammys decided to only give her that many?

It's their opinion. It's like asking some random user on here why they only have 5 Mariah songs in their top 100 songs list instead of 6.

It's entirely their choice. It's not supposed to be objective. 

[irice22]

It's pretty crazy she only had two before 2005. It is rather surprising she doesn't resonate much with Grammy voters.

[leonagwen]

She had a total of 34 Grammy nominations which is very impressive.

[🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲]

Yeah, it's really shocking that someone of her caliber only has 5, while Beyonce has like what...18?

[jenglisbe]

May 3, 2018 20:49:47 GMT -5 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 said:

Yeah, it's really shocking that someone of her caliber only has 5, while Beyonce has like what...18?

It does seem odd, but part of it is due to genre. Most of Beyonce's wins have been in the R&B categories. Mariah didn't truly start submitting to R&B categories until Butterfly/"Honey," and Pop Album didn't exist for her first few albums. It's likely that if Pop Album was around in the early 90s she would have won that once or twice. Had she submitted more to R&B she might have won R&B Female and/or Song. If Rap/Sung Collaboration existed in the late 90s she might have won that, too. Because Sony pushed her as a pop artist, she missed out on a lot in the first half of the 90s. Then when she went 'urban' it was a bit of bad timing, particularly with Rap/Sung not being created until the 00s when she was the leader of that 'genre.'

[collegedropout]

May 3, 2018 20:57:12 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

May 3, 2018 20:49:47 GMT -5 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 said:

Yeah, it's really shocking that someone of her caliber only has 5, while Beyonce has like what...18?

It does seem odd, but part of it is due to genre. Most of Beyonce's wins have been in the R&B categories. Mariah didn't truly start submitting to R&B categories until Butterfly/"Honey," and Pop Album didn't exist for her first few albums. It's likely that if Pop Album was around in the early 90s she would have won that once or twice. Had she submitted more to R&B she might have won R&B Female and/or Song. If Rap/Sung Collaboration existed in the late 90s she might have won that, too. Because Sony pushed her as a pop artist, she missed out on a lot in the first half of the 90s. Then when she went 'urban' it was a bit of bad timing, particularly with Rap/Sung not being created until the 00s when she was the leader of that 'genre.'

It seems like back then popular artists didn't fair well in the R&B categories. Janet and Whitney didn't win many (or any?) either. Whitney even lost during The Bodyguard. While Toni Braxton or Anita Baker Eryka Badu prevailed. Whereas in the 2000s Beyonce and Alicia Keys were automatic whether it was an album track, live version or whatever. It seems to be changing back though in recent years with Beyonce not even getting nominated last time and Rihanna losing to I forget who during ANTI.

[jenglisbe]

May 3, 2018 21:30:24 GMT -5 collegedropout said:

May 3, 2018 20:57:12 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

It does seem odd, but part of it is due to genre. Most of Beyonce's wins have been in the R&B categories. Mariah didn't truly start submitting to R&B categories until Butterfly/"Honey," and Pop Album didn't exist for her first few albums. It's likely that if Pop Album was around in the early 90s she would have won that once or twice. Had she submitted more to R&B she might have won R&B Female and/or Song. If Rap/Sung Collaboration existed in the late 90s she might have won that, too. Because Sony pushed her as a pop artist, she missed out on a lot in the first half of the 90s. Then when she went 'urban' it was a bit of bad timing, particularly with Rap/Sung not being created until the 00s when she was the leader of that 'genre.'

It seems like back then popular artists didn't fair well in the R&B categories. Janet and Whitney didn't win many (or any?) either. Whitney even lost during The Bodyguard. While Toni Braxton or Anita Baker Eryka Badu prevailed. Whereas in the 2000s Beyonce and Alicia Keys were automatic whether it was an album track, live version or whatever. It seems to be changing back though in recent years with Beyonce not even getting nominated last time and Rihanna losing to I forget who during ANTI.

I think Beyonce and Alicia started losing when the panel was instituted for R&B categories. It could also just be that voters realized those two had more than enough wins.

Whitney lost R&B Female to Aretha twice in the 80s. She then lost to Chaka Khan in 1993, but that wasn't for one of Whitney's big hits. The loss for "I'm Every Woman" to Toni Braxton was maybe the most surprising since The Bodyguard was so huge, but that soundtrack was more of a pop/AC project. She then lost to Toni again when she was nominated for "Exhale." Toni was definitely a fave with 4 R&B Female wins total (and only 1 loss).

Janet was 0-for-5 in R&B Female in the 80s and 90s, right? She did win R&B Song for "TTWLG," but lost that R&B Female to Toni the same year Whitney was up for "I'm Every Woman." Aretha and Patti were the other 2 nominees, so that category was stacked with names.

But, yeah, in general the 80s and 90s divas were not huge Grammys faves. Mariah, Janet, and Celine have 5 wins (as does Christina). Whitney has 6 wins. Madonna has 7 wins, 3 of which are in Video categories (Toni has 7 wins too). Meanwhile Rihanna has 9 wins (5 in Rap/Sung), Taylor Swift has 10 wins, Alicia Keys and Adele have 15 wins, and Beyonce has 22 wins.

Adele has won her last 13 Grammys Lol. She won 7 for 21 including the live "SFTTR," won 1 for "Skyfall," and won 5 for 25, all without a loss.

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Because the grammies are all politics and not just about art


she inspired alot of people who now own more than her, that alone should please her. That is what counts more than awards. What have you done in your career to make people pay attention and want to be like you, or parts of your career or talents.

[korbel16]

The one award I’m really confused about is how she lost ROY with ‘we belong together’ to the Dixie chicks .........

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Aug 24, 2018 16:53:15 GMT -5 korbel16 said:

The one award I’m really confused about is how she lost ROY with ‘we belong together’ to the Dixie chicks .........

Was it Not Ready To Make Nice though?

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Because

[Relaxing Cup]

Beyonce has 22 grammy's? WHAT THE f**k! that's ridiculous smdh. If I was the grammy's, she would only have one (crazy in love).