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Post by groovetheory on Nov 20, 2021 5:06:36 GMT -5
I love how everyone has different favorites, i think that is the sign of a great album. Yeah it is not that instant as 21 and 25 were but still this is a very deep, well thought and well produced album which i think will make it timeless. OMG might soon be her Shape of You lol I see Woman Like Me getting lowkey dragged but it currently is my favorite and the ultimate wine moment of the album for me. The dramaa
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Post by Future Captain on Nov 20, 2021 9:01:38 GMT -5
I'm loving the variety of vocals she'd shown in this album. I don't think her vocal versatility is appreciated enough, since people tend to focus on how powerful it is. She really elevated the songs, and the fact its all very well produced and polished is a huge plus too. Also the one-two punch of Easy On Me and My Little Love wrecked me (especially with the interpretation of Easy On Me being a plea to her son)
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 20, 2021 9:17:22 GMT -5
Four album tracks have shown up on the Spincrease list for Pop radio, according to AllAccess. I've posted the mock updates in their respective threads over in the non-singles forum, but they are:
Oh My God I Drink Wine Can I Get It All Night Parking (ft. Erroll Garner)
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Post by Choco on Nov 20, 2021 9:21:07 GMT -5
So from the reactions so far I'd say their best single schedule would be:
1. Easy on Me duh 2. Oh My God 3. Can I Get It 4. Whatever lol at that point radio might play but you know how late album singles go and the album will have sold massively by then.
I hope another huge break is not in the cards. I'd love to see some of the more experimental choices here grow into a more experimental project soon.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 20, 2021 9:23:17 GMT -5
Just heard the snippet of 'Wild Wild West' posted in its respective thread, maybe that for single #4? If I'm to assume being a Target exclusive may be in any way advantageous (since it's not immediately widespread like the rest of the album).
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Post by Choco on Nov 20, 2021 9:27:04 GMT -5
Just heard the snippet of 'Wild Wild West' posted in its respective thread, maybe that for single #4? If I'm to assume being a Target exclusive may be in any way advantageous (since it's not immediately widespread like the rest of the album). Good idea... it would certainly boost streaming since a big chunk of album buyers do not have that song. Will come down to how long the song was promised to Target as an exclusive.
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 20, 2021 9:55:32 GMT -5
I'm hoping the singles go: 1. "Easy On Me" 2. "Oh My God" 3. "Can I Get It" 4. "I Drink Wine" 5. "To Be Loved" (With a performance on 2023 Grammys and she sweeps)
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Post by Choco on Nov 20, 2021 10:04:22 GMT -5
I'm already rolling my eyes at the eventual Grammy submissions being the usual boring lead single for everything. EOM is really good but there are some better gems here.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 20, 2021 10:08:23 GMT -5
"Strangers By Nature" is the tribute to Judy Garland, yes? So it would make sense for it to sound like a JG number. :)
First-day U.S. Spotify streams topped 21.6 million- not a record or anything, but I don't think that was (rationally) expected. For a "torch singer" to pull those kinds of numbers is pretty darn good. Hoping the pure sale will push the tally over 1 million for the week.
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Post by Jack on Nov 20, 2021 10:08:30 GMT -5
I'm hoping the singles go: 1. "Easy On Me" 2. "Oh My God" 3. "Can I Get It" 4. "I Drink Wine" 5. "To Be Loved" (With a performance on 2023 Grammys and she sweeps) Agree on this except I would scrap 4. Wouldn't expect To Be Loved to do much on radio, but I do think it would be a great victory lap for her that she could perform at all the award shows (like you hinted at). Would like to see single 2 released first week of Jan.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 20, 2021 10:11:26 GMT -5
With Live+3 ratings, the CBS special grew to 11.7 million viewers (+1.3m from the initial broadcast). Not sure of the 18-49 demo increase.
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 20, 2021 10:12:49 GMT -5
I'm already rolling my eyes at the eventual Grammy submissions being the usual boring lead single for everything. EOM is really good but there are some better gems here. I wouldn't be surprised if they go a bit crazy with their submissions. "Easy On Me (feat Chris Stapleton" for country duo/group, "All Night Long (with Erroll Garner)" for best improvised Jazz solo, "Hold On" for Best Gospel Performance/Song.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 20, 2021 13:14:56 GMT -5
To Be Loved needs to be heard by the masses. It's a phenomenon.
I don't give a f**k if it flops. Just throw it out there lol
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Post by jessayli on Nov 20, 2021 13:39:25 GMT -5
I agree with what some others have touched on, which is that the songs on 30 are less “immediate” and catchy than the songs on her prior albums. That isn’t to say that it’s a worse album, I think it just requires a little more patience to appreciate. It actually feels like a riskier album to me than her last few, for better or worse. I’ve noticed that songs are growing on me more as I listen to the album for my third time, and I’m curious to see how my appreciation of the album grows over time. At this point, I have no idea if I’m ultimately going to like this album more or less than 21 or 25.
On my first couple listens, I find “Hold On” to be a standout.
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Post by Choco on Nov 20, 2021 14:04:46 GMT -5
I finally got enough time to watch the entire CBS special. Beautifully shot, she looked and sounded amazing... just a well produced thing all around. I had so much fun watching it.
"When We Were Young" was beautiful. It's been so special going from being lukewarm on it to it becoming one of my favorites from her. The only very minor complain is that the new tracks suffered being there alongside gems like "Hello", "Someone Like You", etc... but maybe it's because I haven't had the time to turn them into personal classics yet.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 20, 2021 14:46:34 GMT -5
I agree that based on the numbers Oh My God should be next followed by Can I Get It but I highly doubt that'll happen. I think they'll push I Drink Wine at some point possibly third.
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Post by Choco on Nov 20, 2021 15:02:23 GMT -5
I agree that based on the numbers Oh My God should be next followed by Can I Get It but I highly doubt that'll happen. I think they'll push I Drink Wine at some point possibly third. Yup. Similar cries happened during 25 for her to follow-up "Hello" with something a bit more upbeat like SML or WUTB but they carried on with WWWY. (If my memory isn't wrong they were basically forced to release WUTB due to fan demand, hence the lack of effort to push it or do a video).
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Nov 20, 2021 15:21:03 GMT -5
Likely to be the biggest opening of the decade. I knew 1M was happening no matter what.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 20, 2021 15:43:46 GMT -5
people were calling me crazy when I said Red (TV) would be stiff competition for Adele in the US... yesterday, "All Too Well" out streamed every single song on Adele's new album: US Spotify - 11/19/21 Adele - 30
1( +1) Easy On Me 2,862,433 ( +1,634,648) Taylor Swift - Red (Taylor's Version)
5( -4) All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 1,894,723 ( -205,751) 26(-15) All Too Well 673,612 (-85,271) 97(-89) All Too Well (Sad Girl Autumn Version) 326,030 Total Streams for All Too Well (Taylor's Version): 2,894,365 honestly, I'm still expecting Adele to perform in the 850k-1.15m range. seeing as her streaming units will be capped at 200k at most, and digital sales are dead, I don't think there will be 1 million physical copies sold to push this over 1.2m. people just aren't buying albums like that anymore, and unlike 25, 30 was made available on streaming immediately upon release. I expect she will break the vinyl record, which should be impressive. she'll probably have that record for a long time.
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Post by Music Fan on Nov 20, 2021 15:58:25 GMT -5
Am I the only one who is starting to see "I Drink Wine" as single material. Wasn't a fan of the song as single material when I first heard it at her "One Night Only" performance. But it's slowly creeping up into my top 5 of the album.
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I’ve never LOVED an Adele album, but I’d say this is just as good as her previous.
The songs I can’t stand to listen to:
Strangers By Nature I Drink Wine Woman Like Me To Be Loved Love Is A Game
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Post by Philippe on Nov 20, 2021 16:22:07 GMT -5
people were calling me crazy when I said Red (TV) would be stiff competition for Adele in the US... yesterday, "All Too Well" out streamed every single song on Adele's new album: US Spotify - 11/19/21 Adele - 30
1( +1) Easy On Me 2,862,433 ( +1,634,648) Taylor Swift - Red (Taylor's Version)
5( -4) All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 1,894,723 ( -205,751) 26(-15) All Too Well 673,612 (-85,271) 97(-89) All Too Well (Sad Girl Autumn Version) 326,030 Total Streams for All Too Well (Taylor's Version): 2,894,365 honestly, I'm still expecting Adele to perform in the 850k-1.15m range. seeing as her streaming units will be capped at 200k at most, and digital sales are dead, I don't think there will be 1 million physical copies sold to push this over 1.2m. people just aren't buying albums like that anymore, and unlike 25, 30 was made available on streaming immediately upon release. I expect she will break the vinyl record, which should be impressive. she'll probably have that record for a long time. Poor thing! Taylor really needed 3 versions of the same song to remain on the radar? Anyone told her that she will nevertheless be eaten alive by Adele? Adele will do what she does. She'll sell millions of copies and outsell anyone with a first name commencing by letters A to Z, by doing the strick minimum, and disappear for 5 years. We should all enjoy the ride while it last!
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Post by kimberly on Nov 20, 2021 16:28:56 GMT -5
people were calling me crazy when I said Red (TV) would be stiff competition for Adele in the US... yesterday, "All Too Well" out streamed every single song on Adele's new album: honestly, I'm still expecting Adele to perform in the 850k-1.15m range. seeing as her streaming units will be capped at 200k at most, and digital sales are dead, I don't think there will be 1 million physical copies sold to push this over 1.2m. people just aren't buying albums like that anymore, and unlike 25, 30 was made available on streaming immediately upon release. I expect she will break the vinyl record, which should be impressive. she'll probably have that record for a long time. Poor thing! Taylor really needed 3 versions of the same song to remain on the radar? Anyone told her that she will nevertheless be eaten alive by Adele? Adele will do what she does. She'll sell millions of copies and outsell anyone with a first name commencing by letters A to Z, by doing the strick minimum, and disappear for 5 years. We should all enjoy the ride while it last! lmao. relax. if "doing the strict minimum" is doing TV specials with Oprah in the US and another one in the UK, sure. Adele is fine and will be fine—more than fine, in fact. she's one of the best-selling artists of our lifetime, with 15 Grammys under her belt. no one's saying anything against that. I'm just pointing out the expectations some of y'all set for this woman were unrealistic (as I mentioned many times before) and she's not meeting them. that's all.
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Post by adamalterlago on Nov 20, 2021 16:29:36 GMT -5
She’s going to sell over 1M the first week. She will undoubtedly beat Taylors figures. Even worldwide, Taylor just isn’t the star that Adele is which is totally fine. I do think All Too Well may go #1 next week which is really amazing.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 20, 2021 16:36:03 GMT -5
She’s going to sell over 1M the first week. She will undoubtedly beat Taylors figures. Even worldwide, Taylor just isn’t the star that Adele is which is totally fine. I do think All Too Well may go #1 next week which is really amazing. oh Adele will for SURE beat Red (TV) numbers, which also benefitted from having 30 songs on it lol—though technically, Red (TV) is already PLATINUM because it counts as a double album by the RIAA standards due to its runtime of 130 minutes. Adele should also have no trouble beating folklore's first-week SPS total. I always said Adele would come out on top if they were to release on the same day, but that Taylor would be a worthy challenger—I remember someone replying in this thread and telling me Red (TV) would do 300k at best. she ended up doing almost 600k, and if the two albums came out at the same time, I'm sure the rivalry would have driven up consumption for both of them.
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Post by ampersand on Nov 20, 2021 16:39:03 GMT -5
I'd love if the singles went like this:
1. "Easy on Me" 2. "Oh My God 3. "Can I Get It" 3. "Cry Your Eyes Out" 5. "To Be Loved"
That would be a perfect era to me. Really don't understand the motivation behind making "I Drink Wine" a single (if the rumours are true).
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Post by Choco on Nov 20, 2021 17:11:40 GMT -5
There's plenty of room between beating RED TV and 1 million tho. We gotta wait for the pure sales prediction. 250k streaming (best case) and 250k vinyl (the amount shipped to the US) only gets her halfway there. CDs and downloads are gonna be the key. CD will probably overperform everyone as expected, but downloads might be the weak point.
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 20, 2021 17:39:29 GMT -5
I went for a walk around a pedestrian-only park with my noise cancelling headphones to give this my first listen today. Here are my track by track thoughts.
Strangers By Nature - why am I blown away and almost in tears with a song with no chorus that sounds like an intro????? Easy On Me - this feels the most 25-esque of all the songs on this record and actually doesn't fit well, IMHO. My Little Love - This 90s R&B throwback is devastating - she's really speaking to people going through grief, disappointment, and/or post-partum depression after becoming parents and realizing life isn't just and endless state of bliss after that. While some people may not be fond of this sound, you'd have to be a monster not to feel empathy for her solo voice memo at the end. Cry Your Heart Out - This was so unexpected and mid-20th century with 21st century subject matter. I find it more like something from Janelle Monae's The ArchAndroid than a Goldfrapp number. Oh My God - I could hear this being in commercials and all over the radio. Can I Get It - The chorus and post-chorus seem pandering to radio, especially Hot AC with Top 40 crossover, BUT the guitar part and verses work. The intro reminds me of Madonna's "I Deserve It." I can see why people say it sounds like an Ed Sheeran song, it is fun though. I Drink Wine - I understand the 70s Elton John vibe now, though does this have a chorus? It's solid in the context of the album but not single-worthy. All Night Parking - What a nice interlude! It has lush production and captivating lyrics. Woman Like Me - Why is no one talking about this Latin-tinged R&B affair?????? This was so captivating and was like a sequel, sonically, to her cover of "Lovesong" Hold On - This is MUCH better than I thought it would be from the Amazon commercial. To Be Loved - WOW just WOW... the vocals are INSANE and I cried with the amount of emotion she put into the last two lines. I feel like this is closest she's come to emulating Mariah Carey in terms of stylistic choices and it reminds me of Mariah's cover of "Out Here On My Own." Love is a Game - This sounds like something from a 60s or 70s Cher solo record in the best way possible. I love how it explodes into mid-20th century production and it's a lovely way to end an album about self-healing when the journey is not complete.
I had no idea what to expect going in, but this easily jockeys with 21 for her best album. As is scattered throughout above, I feel like this album is a combination of 19, Janelle Monae's The ArchAndroid, and a 60s/70s torch record with touches of 90s R&B thrown in. I nearly drove myself to Target to get the vinyl on my way home from the park. "Easy On Me" and "I Drink Wine" are the lowest points for me and even those are very solid ballads. As stated upthread, I hope she's inspired to make more experimental music much sooner after this.
I really hope they push My Little Love or Cry Your Heart Out to Adult R&B after this. If that format will play EOM, there's definitely more on this record that would work there.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 20, 2021 17:55:48 GMT -5
I agree with Cry Your Heart Out fitting well on UAC. I also think Woman Like Me would be a nice choice.
I doubt they'll do this though.
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Post by born on Nov 20, 2021 18:01:54 GMT -5
I’m not gonna lie, I really wanted another 2m+ debut but 1m is undoubtedly a win for her. This week is going to be so fascinating. Can’t wait for the pure sales numbers to come out.
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