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Post by Mayman on Aug 4, 2018 10:30:40 GMT -5
I've only listened to Sicko Mode or whatever it's called because it has Drake on it, but I'll listen to the album later. Didn't know Travis Scott was this big.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Aug 4, 2018 10:32:34 GMT -5
I have a question about the 8/4/18 Billboard Rap Songs chart they have Sin Pijama by Becky G at #24. Shouldn't it be 1942 by G-Eazy since going by the Hot 100 Ball For Me by Post Malone is #25 on the Rap Songs Chart. Also I don't consider Sin Pijama rap. They make so many rather simple mistakes with charts for a huge company with huge technology. 2 weeks ago I had to e-mail them because an album from 30 years ago debuted on R&B Albums.  Using the search option they have both Fed Up by Derez De'Shon & Bed by Nicki Minaj both being #25 on the Rap Airplay chart. I remember a couple years ago when they 1st put the Rap chart up they had a country act (Little Big Town I think) on it. I e-mailed about the Becky G song but haven't got a answer. Maybe I e-mailed the wrong person. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 10:36:32 GMT -5
I've only listened to Sicko Mode or whatever it's called because it has Drake on it, but I'll listen to the album later. Didn't know Travis Scott was this big. I figured he was based on how his prior singles have performed on streaming, even though he doesn't seem that big. He's also Kylie Jenner's man and baby daddy, so that alone gives him a popularity boost. And that's not to say he wasn't popular before, and/or on his own merits as an artist. He was. It's just that his profile and promotion and audience expanded even further with her just being in the picture. Plus, all these features! |
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Post by Mayman on Aug 4, 2018 10:39:43 GMT -5
I've only listened to Sicko Mode or whatever it's called because it has Drake on it, but I'll listen to the album later. Didn't know Travis Scott was this big. I figured he was based on how his prior singles have performed on streaming, even though he doesn't seem that big. He's also Kylie Jenner's man and baby daddy, so that alone gives him a popularity boost. And that's not to say he wasn't popular before, and/or on his own merits as an artist. He was. It's just that his profile and promotion and audience expanded even further with her just being in the picture. Plus, all these features! Its insane though how he's performing almost the same way Drake was a month ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 10:41:46 GMT -5
I figured he was based on how his prior singles have performed on streaming, even though he doesn't seem that big. He's also Kylie Jenner's man and baby daddy, so that alone gives him a popularity boost. And that's not to say he wasn't popular before, and/or on his own merits as an artist. He was. It's just that his profile and promotion and audience expanded even further with her just being in the picture. Plus, all these features! Its insane though how he's performing almost the same way Drake was a month ago. With the way streaming is booming, especially for hiphop, it honestly doesn't surprise me. I think it's the new normal. |
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Post by amore on Aug 4, 2018 10:42:12 GMT -5
I figured he was based on how his prior singles have performed on streaming, even though he doesn't seem that big. He's also Kylie Jenner's man and baby daddy, so that alone gives him a popularity boost. And that's not to say he wasn't popular before, and/or on his own merits as an artist. He was. It's just that his profile and promotion and audience expanded even further with her just being in the picture. Plus, all these features! Its insane though how he's performing almost the same way Drake was a month ago. Ikr. Lol I thought drake was the only artist who had the power to have all his songs in the top 30. I'm really impressed. I wouldn't be surprised if one of his songs become a meme/challenge. |
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Post by Mayman on Aug 4, 2018 10:43:10 GMT -5
I wonder if this will be another J. Cole situation where the album is very frontloaded and doesn't have much longevity after a few weeks.
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Post by amore on Aug 4, 2018 10:44:26 GMT -5
I mean scorpion didn't last that long, so I wouldn't be surprised. I wonder if this will be another J. Cole situation where the album is very frontloaded and doesn't have much longevity after a few weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 10:46:54 GMT -5
I'm not expecting a Drake-level situation, it will likely be more front loaded and who knows how it will even perform during the rest of the tracking period compared to yesterday. But having all the tracks chart seems entirely possible, even if many fail to chart in the top 40.
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Post by amore on Aug 4, 2018 10:49:59 GMT -5
Honestly idek at this point. The sings are catchy, so it should do well on radio. Ig we'll just have to see where it is in the next couple of days. I'm not expecting a Drake-level situation, it will likely be more front loaded and who knows how it will even perform during the rest of the tracking period compared to yesterday. But having all the tracks chart seems entirely possible, even if many fail to chart in the top 40. |
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Post by fhas on Aug 4, 2018 10:50:57 GMT -5
I'm surprised with the Travis Scott album bomb, but looking at Kworb's Spotify Weekly Chart you can see that goosebumps has been in the top 200 for 98 weeks and it's still at #94. He's now going from a longevity monster to a high peak streaming monster. kworb.net/spotify/country/us_weekly.html |
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Post by amore on Aug 4, 2018 10:53:08 GMT -5
I'm surprised with the Travis Scott album bomb, but looking at Kworb's Spotify Weekly Chart you can see that goosebumps has been in the top 200 for 98 weeks and it's still at #94. He's now going from a longevity monster to a high peak streaming monster. kworb.net/spotify/country/us_weekly.htmlThere ya go lol. Longetivity seems to be on his side :). This year just keeps getting weirder with these album bombs. I wonder will Arianas album pull something similar. |
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Post by Soulsista on Aug 4, 2018 10:54:07 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
August 4, 1958 (For the week ending August 9)
01 -- Poor Little Fool - Ricky Nelson (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 -- Patricia - Perez Prado & His Orchestra
03 -- Splish Splash - Bobby Darin
04 -- Hard Headed Woman - Elvis Presley
05 -- When - The Kalin Twins
06 -- Rebel-Rouser - Duane Eddy
07 -- Yakkety Yak - The Coasters
08 -- My True Love - Jack Scott
09 -- Willie And The Hand Jive - The Johnny Otis Show
10 -- Fever - Peggy Lee
August 10, 1963
01 02 Fingertips (Part 2) - Little Stevie Wonder (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 05 Wipe Out - The Surfaris
03 04 (You're The) Devil In Disguise - Elvis Presley
04 06 Blowin' In The Wind - Peter, Paul & Mary
05 01 So Much In Love - The Tymes
06 08 Judy's Turn To Cry - Lesley Gore
07 03 Surf City - Jan & Dean
08 11 Candy Girl - The Four Seasons
09 07 Easier Said Than Done - The Essex
10 19 More - Kai Winding & Orchestra
17 45 Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh (A Letter From Camp) - Allan Sherman
August 10, 1968
01 01 Hello, I Love You - The Doors (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Classical Gas - Mason Williams
03 03 Stoned Soul Picnic - The Fifth Dimension
04 04 Grazing In The Grass - Hugh Masekela
05 13 People Got To Be Free - The Rascals
06 05 Hurdy Gurdy Man - Donovan
07 07 Lady Willpower - Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
08 09 Turn Around, Look At Me - The Vogues
09 10 Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
10 06 Jumpin' Jack Flash - The Rolling Stones
August 11, 1973
01 01 The Morning After - Maureen McGovern (2nd and final week at #1)
02 03 Live And Let Die - Wings
03 08 Brother Louie - The Stories
04 07 Touch Me In The Morning - Diana Ross
05 02 Bad, Bad Leroy Brown - Jim Croce
06 04 Smoke On The Water - Deep Purple
07 17 Let's Get It On - Marvin Gaye
08 05 Yesterday Once More - The Carpenters
09 15 Uneasy Rider - Charlie Daniels
10 15 Monster Mash - Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers
August 12, 1978
01 02 Three Times a Lady - The Commodores (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 03 Grease - Frankie Valli
03 04 Last Dance - Donna Summer
04 01 Miss You - The Rolling Stones
05 08 Hot Blooded - Foreigner
06 17 Boogie Oogie Oogie - A Taste Of Honey
07 09 Love Will Find a Way - deleted Cruise
08 12 Copacabana (At The Copa) - Barry Manilow
09 11 Magnet And Steel - Walter Egan
10 16 An Everlasting Love - Andy Gibb
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 10:54:21 GMT -5
I'm surprised with the Travis Scott album bomb, but looking at Kworb's Spotify Weekly Chart you can see that goosebumps has been in the top 200 for 98 weeks and it's still at #94. He's now going from a longevity monster to a high peak streaming monster. kworb.net/spotify/country/us_weekly.htmlExactly. Looking at his previous hits, and how streaming has grown since his last album, this streaming album bomb situation really shouldn't be a surprise. There's a curiosity factor in place, probably more so than with Drake who is more established and well-known to a larger audience. This is why we can't be too sure how well Travis' songs will hold up this week, let alone next week. Features are playing a role in this. |
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Post by Soulsista on Aug 4, 2018 11:14:50 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
August 13, 1983
01 01 Every Breath You Take - The Police (6th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This) - The Eurythmics
03 03 She Works Hard For The Money - Donna Summer
04 07 Maniac - Michael Sembello
05 04 Is There Something I Should Know - Duran Duran
06 09 Stand Back - Stevie Nicks
07 05 Flashdance...What a Feeling - Irene Cara
08 11 It's a Mistake - Men At Work
09 08 Never Gonna Let You Go - Sergio Mendes w/Joe Pizzulo & Leza Miller
10 13 (Keep Feeling) Fascination - The Human League
August 13, 1988
01 01 Roll With It - Steve Winwood (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Hands To Heaven - Breathe
03 04 Make Me Lose Control - Eric Carmen
04 05 Sign Your Name - Terence Trent D'Arby
05 06 1-2-3 - Gloria Estefan & The Miami Sound Machine
06 07 I Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That - Elton John
07 08 I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love - Chicago
08 10 Monkey - George Michael
09 03 Hold On To The Nights - Richard Marx
10 12 Just Got Paid - Johnny Kemp
August 14, 1993
01 01 Can't Help Falling In Love - UB40 (4th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team
03 03 Weak - SWV
04 04 I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - The Proclaimers
05 05 Slam - Onyx
06 06 Lately - Jodeci
07 07 If I Had No Loot - Tony! Toni! Tone!
08 11 Runaway Train - Soul Asylum
09 10 I Don't Wanna Fight - Tina Turner
10 13 If - Janet Jackson
13 40 Dreamlover - Mariah Carey
August 8, 1998
01 01 The Boy Is Mine - Brandy & Monica (10th of 13 weeks at #1)
02 02 You're Still The One - Shania Twain
03 03 My Way - Usher
04 04 Adia - Sarah McLachlan
05 05 Make It Hot - Nicole feat. Missy Elliott & Mocha
06 07 Too Close - Next
07 06 Come With Me - Puff Daddy feat. Jimmy Page
08 08 Never Ever - All Saints
09 13 Crush - Jennifer Paige
10 10 When The Lights Go Out - Five
20 NE Daydreamin' - Tatyana Ali
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Aug 4, 2018 11:18:51 GMT -5
44. (-12) DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO - No Brainer (39.516) (-7.663) HOLY.... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 11:19:24 GMT -5
August 14, 1993 01 01 Can't Help Falling In Love - UB40 (4th of 7 weeks at #1) 02 02 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team 03 03 Weak - SWV 04 04 I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - The Proclaimers05 05 Slam - Onyx 06 06 Lately - Jodeci 07 07 If I Had No Loot - Tony! Toni! Tone! 08 11 Runaway Train - Soul Asylum 09 10 I Don't Wanna Fight - Tina Turner 10 13 If - Janet Jackson 13 40 Dreamlover - Mariah Carey Still love every song except for #4. Tina's song going top 10 was everything - my heart! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 11:19:39 GMT -5
44. (-12) DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO - No Brainer (39.516) (-7.663) HOLY.... 8th day effect - its exaggerated audience numbers from its premiere last Friday are gone now. |
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Post by amore on Aug 4, 2018 11:25:18 GMT -5
Welp there goes its shot in the top 3 8th day effect - its exaggerated audience numbers from its premiere last Friday are gone now. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 11:31:44 GMT -5
Welp there goes its shot in the top 38th day effect - its exaggerated audience numbers from its premiere last Friday are gone now. That's not how it works. You'll see tomorrow that everything is fine. I don't know where it will rank on the Hot 100, but today's radio update is not reflective of anything bad. |
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Post by amore on Aug 4, 2018 11:32:41 GMT -5
Im sorry lol I'm a little new to all of this. Welp there goes its shot in the top 3 That's not how it works. You'll see tomorrow that everything is fine. I don't know where it will rank on the Hot 100, but today's radio update is not reflective of anything bad. |
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Post by Soulsista on Aug 4, 2018 11:33:24 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
August 9, 2003
01 01 Crazy In Love - Beyonce feat. Jay-Z (5th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 03 Right Thurr - Chingy
03 02 Rock Wit U (Awww Baby) - Ashanti
04 04 Magic Stick - Lil Kim feat. 50 Cent
05 06 Unwell - Matchbox Twenty
06 05 Never Leave You...Uh Ooh, Uh Oooh! - Lumidee
07 07 P.I.M.P. - 50 Cent
08 12 Where Is The Love? - The Black Eyed Peas
09 08 In Those Jeans - Ginuwine
10 16 Get Low - Lil & The East Side Boyz feat. The Ying Yang Twins
August 9, 2008
01 01 I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry (6th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Take a Bow - Rihanna
03 03 Forever - Chris Brown
04 15 Disturbia - Rihanna
05 05 Viva La Vida - Coldplay
06 08 A Milli - Lil Wayne
07 04 Lollipop - Lil Wayne feat. Static Major
08 09 Dangerous - Kardinal Offishall feat. Akon
09 06 Bleeding Love - Leona Lewis
10 10 Leavin' - Jesse McCartney
August 10, 2013
01 01 Blurred Lines - Robin Thicke feat. T.I. & Pharrell (8th of 12 weeks at #1)
02 NE Best Song Ever - One Direction
03 02 We Can't Stop - Miley Cyrus
04 03 Radioactive - Imagine Dragons
05 04 Get Lucky - Daft Punk feat. Pharrell
06 05 Treasure - Bruno Mars
07 08 Holy Grail - Jay-Z feat. Justin Timberlake
08 09 Cups - Anna Kendrick
09 06 Can't Hold Us - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis feat. Ray Dalton
10 07 Cruise - Florida Georgia Line feat. Nelly
August 12, 2017
01 01 Despacito - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber (12th of 16 weeks at #1)
02 02 Wild Thoughts - DJ Khaled feat. Rihanna & Bryson Tiller
03 03 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars
04 04 I'm The One - DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance The Rapper & Lil Wayne
05 07 Believer - Imagine Dragons
06 05 Unforgettable - French Montana feat. Swae Lee
07 06 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran
08 08 There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - Shawn Mendes
09 10 Attention - Charlie Puth
10 09 Body Like a Back Road - Sam Hunt
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Aug 4, 2018 11:36:23 GMT -5
Wow 2013 lol nostalgia
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 11:37:39 GMT -5
Im sorry lol I'm a little new to all of this. That's not how it works. You'll see tomorrow that everything is fine. I don't know where it will rank on the Hot 100, but today's radio update is not reflective of anything bad. It's ok - explaining the 8th day effect at radio is an ongoing event in these threads. haha. The tracking period for radio airplay ends Sunday nights at 11:59pm. Today's update is just showing how it compares to last week Friday's numbers, when it had a bunch of hourly premiere spins across the country. The big decrease won't be there tomorrow, and it'll all be positive again. It should also be said that last Friday's airplay (and Saturday and Sunday) is not counted toward this week's charts. Those days were part of last week's Hot 100 tracking period. This means that sometimes songs debut low or "early" on the Hot 100 based off of 3 days of airplay alone, however this song did not. With streaming being such a big metric now, it's more difficult for a few days of airplay alone to be enough to chart. |
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Post by Gary on Aug 4, 2018 11:46:13 GMT -5
"8th day effect" is not really an industry term, it is a phrase coined here
If you google it, the first thing that pops up is a link right back to this site
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Post by dovahduck on Aug 4, 2018 12:53:37 GMT -5
Is it possible for “Butterfly Effect” to re-enter? Just curious.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Aug 4, 2018 13:38:53 GMT -5
Travis projected for 300K-400K units. Wow!
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Post by amore on Aug 4, 2018 13:41:02 GMT -5
Wow... Looks like Travis will be moving songs 10 spaces down like Drake. This is insane. 2018 has been a wild year. Travis projected for 300K-400K units. Wow! |
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 4, 2018 14:33:29 GMT -5
"8th day effect" is not really an industry term, it is a phrase coined here If you google it, the first thing that pops up is a link right back to this site Just because the phrase "8th day effect" is really only used here doesn't mean it's not a thing. |
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Post by Gary on Aug 4, 2018 14:53:31 GMT -5
"8th day effect" is not really an industry term, it is a phrase coined here If you google it, the first thing that pops up is a link right back to this site Just because the phrase "8th day effect" is really only used here doesn't mean it's not a thing. It's a "thing" here and a commonly used term here. It is tossed around here like it is something people should know - some do not - that is why they ask. |
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