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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 10:47:17 GMT -5
The 2000s all time Hot 100 does not cut off at the decade, so that is not accurate Songs like I Gotta Feeling and Tik Tok span 2009 and 2010 so they would appear in two decades. The "All Time" list states the peak year only That's what makes it more accurate So multi-year chart runs should only count for the one year? OK - that is not how the decade charts work though. That is OK for the alltime charts and sorting the songs like the website set up, but sorting on 2000s in that list does not make it a decade chart - unless you want it to of course --- lists can say whatever you want them to
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Post by brady47 on Aug 13, 2018 11:03:24 GMT -5
That's what makes it more accurate So multi-year chart runs should only count for the one year? OK - that is not how the decade charts work though. That is OK for the alltime charts and sorting the songs like the website set up, but sorting on 2000s in that list does not make it a decade chart - unless you want it to of course --- lists can say whatever you want them to If you are comparing chart performance of songs - then yes, multi-year chart runs should count for only one year Most people would consider Bad Romance a 2010 hit even if it charted in 2009 because the majority of its points are from 2010
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 11:06:34 GMT -5
So multi-year chart runs should only count for the one year? OK - that is not how the decade charts work though. That is OK for the alltime charts and sorting the songs like the website set up, but sorting on 2000s in that list does not make it a decade chart - unless you want it to of course --- lists can say whatever you want them to If you are comparing chart performance of songs - then yes, multi-year chart runs should count for only one year Most people would consider Bad Romance a 2010 hit even if it charted in 2009 because the majority of its points are from 2010 Just saying chart runs that lie in 2009 are in the 2000s decade, chart runs in 2010 are in the 2010s decade When they do decade lists, that is how they do it. That is why Mariah is #1 on the published list When you group all decades together as they have done, the order can change as they include the entire chart run
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 13, 2018 11:07:44 GMT -5
The 2000s all time Hot 100 does not cut off at the decade, so that is not accurate Songs like I Gotta Feeling and Tik Tok span 2009 and 2010 so they would appear in two decades. The "All Time" list states the peak year only That's what makes it more accurate Depends. If you’re looking at data from between the two end-points, you don’t look at data from outside the frame. If you’re comparing hits regardless of when the data comes from, then you include all - but that data is considered to be everchanging. Neither one is wrong but if you make a claim and someone counters that, both sides kind of have to accept both as an option without argument.
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 11:12:38 GMT -5
Or what I said - interpret any way you like
Another way to put it:
The Decade list - that will get published in December 2019, will not include chart runs in 2020 - just a fact of timing Year end lists work the same way - the 2018 list published in December 2018 will not include any 2019 data
The all time list lumps everything together and all the chart run data is in - which leaves it up to the reader of the list to interpret however they like
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Post by brady47 on Aug 13, 2018 11:15:57 GMT -5
Or what I said - interpret any way you like Another way to put it: The Decade list - that will get published in December 2019, will not include chart runs in 2020 - just a fact of timing Year end lists work the same way - the 2018 list published in December 2018 will not include any 2019 data The all time list lumps everything together and all the chart run data is in - which leaves it up to the reader of the list to interpret however they likeAgreed. In my opinion, I like it better because it fixes the ambiguity of chart runs in two decades, but not saying it's the right way, the ones Billboard publishes in 2019 are legit too for different reasons I guess in some worlds "We Belong Together" are songs of the decade, while in my world, it's "I Gotta Feeling" - whatever floats whoever's boat
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 11:18:50 GMT -5
Fair enough
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 13, 2018 11:52:07 GMT -5
Another related issue is that some songs that are clearly hits get their chart runs split among two year-ends and don't appear in either one which doesn't take away the success they achieved.
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Post by braveheart on Aug 13, 2018 12:07:11 GMT -5
Drake Rules Billboard Hot 100 for Fifth Week With 'In My Feelings,' Travis Scott Debuts Two Songs in Top 10
Drake's "In My Feelings" logs a fifth week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart (dated Aug. 18). Notably, the song decreased in streams in the first full tracking week following the Aug. 2 premiere of its official video, after it had been heavily driven in recent weeks by the viral "In My Feelings" challenge.
As it leads the Hot 100 for a fifth week, "Feelings," released on Young Money/Cash Money/Republic Records, likewise posts a fifth frame at No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart, with 92.7 million U.S. streams, down 3 percent, in the week ending Aug. 9, according to Nielsen Music, after its official video arrived late Thursday (Aug. 2). (The sum marks the eighth-highest streaming week for a song; three weeks earlier, the track set the mark by logging 116.2 million.)
"Feelings" also spends a fifth week atop the Digital Song Sales chart (58,000 downloads sold, down 20 percent, in the week ending Aug. 9). On Radio Songs, "Feelings" keeps at its No. 3 high, increasing by 12 percent to 107.4 million audience impressions in the week ending Aug. 12, as it claims the Hot 100's top Airplay Gainer award for a fifth straight week. As for its reach at specific radio formats, the track tops Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop and Rhythmic Songs for a second week each and pushes 13-9 in its fifth week on Pop Songs, where Drake earns his 11th top 10 and ties 2016's "One Dance," featuring WizKid and Kyla (Drake's lone leader on the list so far), for his fastest flight to the region.
Additionally, rap songs have now led the Hot 100 for a record-extending 29 consecutive weeks. The streak also includes Drake's "God's Plan" (for 11 weeks) and "Nice for What" (eight), both, like "Feelings," from his album Scorpion; Childish Gambino's "This Is America" (two); Post Malone's "Psycho," featuring Ty Dolla $ign (one); XXXTentacion's "Sad!" (one); and Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin's "I Like It" (one).
"Feelings" concurrently tops the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts for a fifth week each. It also takes over as the new No. 1 on the Songs of the Summer chart, which ranks the top-performing titles on the Hot 100 between Memorial Day and Labor Day, dethroning Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin's "I Like It" after four weeks in the lead; on the Hot 100, "Like" descends 2-3.
While "Feelings" maintains its robust lead over the competition atop the Hot 100, Maroon 5's "Girls Like You," featuring Cardi B, hits a new high, rising 4-2, while leading Radio Songs for a third week (128.9 million, up 4 percent). It rebounds 3-2 on Digital Song Sales (39,000, down 5 percent) and dips 6-7 on Streaming Songs (31 million, essentially even week-over-week). Maroon 5 notches its highest Hot 100 rank since April 2015, when "Sugar" spent its fourth and final week peaking at No. 2.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 13, 2018 12:17:59 GMT -5
Hmm, with today's update, I'm updating my predictions. In My Feelings can go a solid 9-12 weeks at #1, barring any sudden releases from a huge-tier artist.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 13, 2018 12:26:54 GMT -5
Wow IMF's sales and streaming really tumbled considering the official video was released (relatively of course, still very good)
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 12:27:20 GMT -5
The whole article
Drake Rules Billboard Hot 100 for Fifth Week With 'In My Feelings,' Travis Scott Debuts Two Songs in Top 10
8/13/2018 by Gary Trust
Scott soars in with "Sicko Mode" & "Stargazing" at Nos. 4 & 8, respectively.
Drake's "In My Feelings" logs a fifth week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart (dated Aug. 18). Notably, the song decreased in streams in the first full tracking week following the Aug. 2 premiere of its official video, after it had been heavily driven in recent weeks by the viral "In My Feelings" challenge.
Plus, Travis Scott debuts two songs in the Hot 100's top 10, "Sicko Mode" and "Stargazing," at Nos. 4 and 8, respectively, as parent set Astroworld launches at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 albums chart.
Let's run down the top 10 on the newest Hot 100, which blends all-genre U.S. streaming, radio airplay and digital sales data. All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Aug. 14).
As it leads the Hot 100 for a fifth week, "Feelings," released on Young Money/Cash Money/Republic Records, likewise posts a fifth frame at No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart, with 92.7 million U.S. streams, down 3 percent, in the week ending Aug. 9, according to Nielsen Music, after its official video arrived late Thursday (Aug. 2). (The sum marks the eighth-highest streaming week for a song; three weeks earlier, the track set the mark by logging 116.2 million.)
"Feelings" also spends a fifth week atop the Digital Song Sales chart (58,000 downloads sold, down 20 percent, in the week ending Aug. 9). On Radio Songs, "Feelings" keeps at its No. 3 high, increasing by 12 percent to 107.4 million audience impressions in the week ending Aug. 12, as it claims the Hot 100's top Airplay Gainer award for a fifth straight week. As for its reach at specific radio formats, the track tops Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop and Rhythmic Songs for a second week each and pushes 13-9 in its fifth week on Pop Songs, where Drake earns his 11th top 10 and ties 2016's "One Dance," featuring WizKid and Kyla (Drake's lone leader on the list so far), for his fastest flight to the region.
Additionally, rap songs have now led the Hot 100 for a record-extending 29 consecutive weeks. The streak also includes Drake's "God's Plan" (for 11 weeks) and "Nice for What" (eight), both, like "Feelings," from his album Scorpion; Childish Gambino's "This Is America" (two); Post Malone's "Psycho," featuring Ty Dolla $ign (one); XXXTentacion's "Sad!" (one); and Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin's "I Like It" (one).
"Feelings" concurrently tops the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts for a fifth week each. It also takes over as the new No. 1 on the Songs of the Summer chart, which ranks the top-performing titles on the Hot 100 between Memorial Day and Labor Day, dethroning Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin's "I Like It" after four weeks in the lead; on the Hot 100, "Like" descends 2-3.
While "Feelings" maintains its robust lead over the competition atop the Hot 100, Maroon 5's "Girls Like You," featuring Cardi B, hits a new high, rising 4-2, while leading Radio Songs for a third week (128.9 million, up 4 percent). It rebounds 3-2 on Digital Song Sales (39,000, down 5 percent) and dips 6-7 on Streaming Songs (31 million, essentially even week-over-week). Maroon 5 notches its highest Hot 100 rank since April 2015, when "Sugar" spent its fourth and final week peaking at No. 2.
Travis Scott surges onto the Hot 100 with two songs in the top 10, "Sicko Mode" and "Stargazing," at Nos. 4 and 8, respectively. The tracks launch at Nos. 2 and 4 on Streaming Songs with 55.1 million and 39 million U.S. streams, respectively. They also enter Digital Song Sales at Nos. 5 and 47 with a respective 22,000 and 7,000 sold.
Scott scores his second and third Hot 100 top 10s, and first two in a lead role; in April 2017, he debuted and peaked at No. 9 as featured, with Quavo, on Drake's "Portland."
Meanwhile, Scott becomes the fourth act to have debuted multiple songs in the Hot 100's top 10 simultaneously; Drake has achieved the feat three times (once including Scott) and debuted a record four titles in the top 10 on the July 14-dated chart:
Ed Sheeran, Jan. 28, 2017 No. 1, "Shape of You" No. 6, "Castle on the Hill"
Drake, April 8, 2017 No. 8, "Passionfruit" No. 9, "Portland" (feat. Quavo & Travis Scott)
Drake, Feb. 3, 2018 No. 1, "God's Plan" No. 7, "Diplomatic Immunity"
J. Cole, May 5, 2018 No. 6, "ATM" No. 8, "Kevin's Heart" No. 10, "KOD"
Drake, July 14, 2018 No. 2, "Nonstop" No. 6, "In My Feelings" No. 8, "Emotionless" No. 9, "Don't Matter to Me" (feat. Michael Jackson)
Travis Scott, Aug. 11, 2018 No. 4, "Sicko Mode" No. 8, "Stargazing"
As parent album Astroworld opens atop the Billboard 200, all 17 tracks, including "Sicko" and "Stargazing," from the set appear on the Hot 100; 16 debut and one, "Butterfly Effect," re-enters at a new No. 50 high (after reaching No. 51 last November).
Elsewhere in the Hot 100's top 10, 6ix9ine's "FEFE," featuring Nicki Minaj and Murda Beatz, backtracks to No. 5 from its No. 3 peak; Post Malone's "Better Now" holds at No. 6 after reaching No. 5; Juice WRLD's No. 3-peaking "Lucid Dreams" is stationary at No. 7; Tyga's "Taste," featuring Offset, repeats at its No. 9 high; and Ella Mai's No. 5-peaking "Boo'd Up" drops 8-10, while returning to No. 1 for an 11th total week atop the Hot R&B Songs chart.
Find out more Hot 100 news in the weekly "Hot 100 Chart Moves" column and by listening (and subscribing) to Billboard's Chart Beat Podcast and Pop Shop Podcast. And again, be sure to visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Aug. 14), when all charts, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 13, 2018 12:27:43 GMT -5
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 12:30:27 GMT -5
1. In My Feelings 2. Girls Like You 3. I Like It 4. Sicko Mode 5. Fefe 6. Better Now 7. Lucid Dreams 8. Stargazing 9. Taste 10 Boo'd Up
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 12:31:16 GMT -5
In My Feelings is the Streaming and Digital #1 again
92.7 million (by comparison Sicko Mode is #2 with 55.1) 58,000 downloads
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 13, 2018 12:34:56 GMT -5
Wow IMF's sales and streaming really tumbled considering the official video was released (relatively of course, still very good) Yeah, I'm actually surprised by the sales and streaming figures. Either the extra streams coming from the challenge videos weren't counted by Nielsen Music this week or they all of a sudden came to a halt following the official video's release. The video did almost 32 million streams in the US this week, so I'm kinda lost. Also thought he'd sell more this week, but whatever. Over 90 million streams is still mad impeessive.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Aug 13, 2018 13:08:55 GMT -5
"Meanwhile, Scott becomes the fourth act to have debuted multiple songs in the Hot 100's top 10 simultaneously."
Another once chart rarity is now common: Fifth time in 19 months (3x in less than 4 months). I'm more impressed by Scott's pure album sales - kudos to his team for finding the right bundle hook to appeal to his fans.
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Post by Choco on Aug 13, 2018 13:28:31 GMT -5
The simultaneous top 10 debuts aren't really that special anymore. Sure, Travis is the fourth act to score that but the same thing has already happened 4 times this year.
The IMF numbers are still impressive but it's probably not gonna last as long as God's Plan at the top, thankfully (love the track but enough Drake at #1 already).
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 13:40:54 GMT -5
"Meanwhile, Scott becomes the fourth act to have debuted multiple songs in the Hot 100's top 10 simultaneously." Another once chart rarity is now common: Fifth time in 19 months (3x in less than 4 months). I'm more impressed by Scott's pure album sales - kudos to his team for finding the right bundle hook to appeal to his fans. rare enough that before 2017, never happened. Gonna start tracking it in a separate thread
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 13:42:14 GMT -5
24 weeks at #1 in 2018 for Drake
Most since 2009 when the Black Eyed Peas were #1 for 26 weeks (Usher leads all with 28 weeks in 2004)
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Post by renaboss on Aug 13, 2018 14:16:31 GMT -5
Surprised "Girls Like You" hit #2. Did anyone predict that?
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Post by DJ General on Aug 13, 2018 14:27:15 GMT -5
24 weeks at #1 in 2018 for Drake Most since 2009 when the Black Eyed Peas were #1 for 26 weeks (Usher leads all with 28 weeks in 2004) Drake's got this in the bag. Unless there is a surprise single on its way.
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 14:31:44 GMT -5
Travis Scott - 17 charting songs
#50 Butterfly Effect #15 Love Lies #33 Back To You
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Post by #LisaRinna on Aug 13, 2018 15:04:57 GMT -5
"We Belong Together" was declared the #1 song on the Decade-End chart. Same with "One Sweet Day" and we know how that went... What's your point? I didn't make those Decade-End charts, Billboard did. Take your frustration up with them if it'll make you sleep better.
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 15:08:52 GMT -5
The 90's chart used a different point system, the point system was not revised until 2008
the 1994,1998 all time charts and 90s decade end charts all used inverse point systems rewarding time at #1 with no weighting
That is not something against the song, or anyone here said or did, they changed their system, for the better I think, otherwise, all the alltime songs would be heavily weighted towards the last 25 years
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 13, 2018 15:18:21 GMT -5
Drake currently has 62,250,095 monthly listeners on Spotify. Is that the highest any artist has ever averaged in monthly listeners?
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 15:37:33 GMT -5
Travis Scott Charts All 17 Songs From 'Astroworld' on Billboard Hot 100
8/13/2018 by Xander Zellner
He's just the fifth artist to land at least 17 titles on the Hot 100 simultaneously.
As Travis Scott celebrates his second No. 1 on the Billboard 200 albums chart (dated Aug. 18) -- thanks to his third LP Astroworld opening with 537,000 equivalent album units, according to Nielsen Music -- all 17 tracks from the set debut on the Billboard Hot 100.
"Sicko Mode" and "Stargazing" debut at Nos. 4 and 8 on the Hot 100, respectively, earning the rapper his second and third top 10s on the chart. He first reached the region as a featured act (with Quavo) on Drake's "Portland" last year.
Travis Scott performs at the Osheaga Music and Art Festival at Parc Jean-Drapeau on Aug. 3, 2018 in Montreal, Canada. Read More Drake Rules Billboard Hot 100 for Fifth Week With 'In My Feelings,' Travis Scott Debuts Two Songs in Top 10
As both tracks debut in the Hot 100 top 10, Scott becomes the fourth act to debut multiple songs in the tier simultaneously. Drake has achieved the feat three times and debuted a record four titles in the top 10 on the July 14-dated chart, while Ed Sheeran and J. Cole have also earned the honor.
"Sicko Mode," the third track on Astroworld, sports guest vocals from Drake and Swae Lee (although neither is billed as a credited artist on the track). Nearly all 17 songs on the LP feature notable guest vocals (but no credited artist billings), including 21 Savage, James Blake, Kid Cudi, Frank Ocean, Quavo, The Weeknd and Stevie Wonder.
Scott becomes the seventh act to tally at least 10 songs on the Hot 100 in a single week in 2018, joining Cardi B, J. Cole, Drake, Logic, Migos and Post Malone.
Here is a look at all of Scott's songs (all debuts except for "Butterfly Effect") on the new, Aug. 18-dated Hot 100:
Hot 100 Rank, Title No. 4, "Sicko Mode" No. 8, "Stargazing" No. 24, "Carousel" No. 25, "Yosemite" No. 26, "R.I.P. Screw" No. 27, "Stop Trying to Be God" No. 30, "Wake Up" No. 31, "No Bystanders" No. 36, "5% Tint" No. 38, "Can't Stay" No. 41, "NC-17" No. 43, "Who? What!" No. 47, "Skeletons" No. 48, "Astrothunder" No. 50, "Butterfly Effect" (re-entry) No. 53, "Houstonfornication" No. 68, "Coffee Bean"
"Butterfly Effect," which Scott released in May 2017, first reached No. 51 on the Hot 100 dated Nov. 4, 2017.
Travis Scott Read More Travis Scott's 'Astroworld' Bows at No. 1 on Billboard 200 Chart With Second-Largest Debut of 2018
In the Hot 100's 60-year history, only four other acts have charted at least 17 entries simultaneously. Drake has logged at least 17 songs six times and holds the record for the most concurrent entries: 27, on the chart dated July 14 when his latest album, Scorpion, debuted atop the Billboard 200 and all 25 of its tracks graced the Hot 100. Justin Bieber, Post Malone and The Weeknd have each charted at least 17 songs at once.
With 16 additional Hot 100 entries, Scott brings his career total to 40, tying Mary J. Blige, Bobby Darin, the Isley Brothers, Janet Jackson, Gladys Knight & The Pips, Diana Ross, Snoop Dogg and Andy Williams. The Glee Cast leads all acts with 207 visits, while runner-up Drake holds the record among soloists with 187.
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Post by Gary on Aug 13, 2018 16:11:49 GMT -5
Nice For What (12) and No Brainer (11) fall out of the top 10 this week
Meant to Be is #20
Probably still #1 country songs unless 'Get Along' moved up
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 13, 2018 16:12:37 GMT -5
^I really wasn't expecting Butterfly Effect to re-enter given that it required it to beat it previous peak. Also, given that Goosebumps has been his only hit to date, him getting to 40 and tying the cited artists show how easy it is for artists to pad their Hot 100 total entries with album bombs.
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Post by Juanca on Aug 13, 2018 16:32:18 GMT -5
Or what I said - interpret any way you like Another way to put it: The Decade list - that will get published in December 2019, will not include chart runs in 2020 - just a fact of timing Year end lists work the same way - the 2018 list published in December 2018 will not include any 2019 data The all time list lumps everything together and all the chart run data is in - which leaves it up to the reader of the list to interpret however they likeAgreed. In my opinion, I like it better because it fixes the ambiguity of chart runs in two decades, but not saying it's the right way, the ones Billboard publishes in 2019 are legit too for different reasons I guess in some worlds "We Belong Together" are songs of the decade, while in my world, it's "I Gotta Feeling" - whatever floats whoever's boat An even trickier situation is that of Smooth, a bigger chart hit than WBT and IGF, that ended up in the top 20 of 1999 and #2 of 2000 —so it’s not a year end #1. Most of its success happened in 2000, so it could easily be considered a 2000s song and thus also be the song of the decade.... I think it fits more the 2000s than the 1990s, but in any case it’d be a bigger hit than WBT, IGF, or OSD.
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