KelownaGuy20
2x Platinum Member
Joined: January 2004
Posts: 2,449
Pronouns: He / Him / His
|
Post by KelownaGuy20 on Aug 20, 2018 19:38:39 GMT -5
30's around when I stopped paying attention to new music. I still kind of have a sense of what's out because I work in radio, but I can honestly go months without hearing some of the songs that are serviced to us... and I have noooo idea how successful songs are.
|
|
aerodynamite
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2016
Posts: 4,031
|
Post by aerodynamite on Aug 20, 2018 19:53:51 GMT -5
At 25, I still enjoy finding music I've never heard, a lot of which consists of new releases. But I find myself caring less and less for what's popular. For the last few years, there just hasn't been as much popular music I liked, let alone actively enjoyed.
I think a lot of that, though, has to do with the fact that I don't care much for popular culture anymore. I'm not interested in keeping up with and being involved in new trends. And music is a significant example of that; the current trends in popular music just don't draw me in like they did several years ago.
I like to at least be aware of what's trending and what's popular, so that I'm not too out of touch, but I can't bring myself to actively seek out a whole lot of it.
|
|
Luckie Starchild
Diamond Member
Has a special title
2020 PMA Lifetime Achievement Award, 2011 PMA winner and 8X nominee!
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 14,524
|
Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 20, 2018 19:54:28 GMT -5
This is a concept that really only applies to straight people. I guess that makes me the exception to the rule twice over. Congratulations, we'll consider you an honorary LGBTQ person.
|
|
|
Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Aug 20, 2018 21:52:02 GMT -5
I think major music fans like the people who post here are probably the exception. I still seek out new music almost every day. I'd say 90%+ of what I listen to is older music, but I still love discovering new songs and artists. However, of the new music I seek out, I tend to gravitate more to music that reminds me of the music I grew up on.. so I'm not really listening to pop radio to discover new music. I'm using blogs, social media, last.fm, etc. to discover new music. Same. I don't really seek out new music that much. I stopped listening to pop radio when I was just starting college in favor of my iPod. In my late 20s, I started discovering K-Pop and J-Pop so that was pretty new to me.
|
|
bat1990
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2004
Posts: 12,972
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by bat1990 on Aug 21, 2018 10:14:17 GMT -5
The only thing I miss about being a Spotify subscriber is their New Music Fridays playlist;I discovered so many great songs that way.
I've found myself exploring alternative more as I get older, when I want to find new music. But I do love me a good pop song when it creeps up from time to time. I'm just beyond the demographic of these feathery-voiced teen idols at 28,I guess.
But that also speaks to how the industry has changed to favor youth on top 40 instead of a more diverse array of acts to appeal to everyone, in terms of artist age and genre.
Also, I bet this plays a part of the teen idol marketing structure, used for the likes of BSB, Britney, NSYNC, Christina, Spice Girls, etc. at the turn of the millennium.
|
|
dbhmr
Diamond Member
>
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 23,319
|
Post by dbhmr on Aug 21, 2018 12:12:45 GMT -5
This is real. I mean, I still like discovering new music and I think posting here keeps my selection way more broad than it would be otherwise, but considering how in tune I used to be to pop radio, and how much more likely I used to enjoy listening to the top ten than I do now, I definitely feel old. I hardly even go into the CHR thread anymore because I look at the songs and I'm just like "who/what?" And lately, most of the time when I do listen to whatever is blowing up, I'm not really into it.
Fully ready to start deploying the "In my day, music was..." on the reg.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 12:19:39 GMT -5
Maybe now you people will let me live and be stuck in the 90's that was my era and i like what i like! #OLD . In my day i walked 10 miles and climbed 10 hills to get to a HMV and buy all my favorites .
|
|
Jay D83
4x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2006
Posts: 4,505
|
Post by Jay D83 on Aug 21, 2018 12:53:07 GMT -5
Maybe now you people will let me live and be stuck in the 90's that was my era and i like what i like! #OLD . In my day i walked 10 miles and climbed 10 hills to get to a HMV and buy all my favorites . PREACH!!!!!
|
|
slowmo
Platinum Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 1,466
|
Post by slowmo on Aug 21, 2018 15:03:13 GMT -5
I definitely find this to be true. Interestingly, for me the streaming services has actually made it harder for me to discover new things because when I do actually open up Spotify, I default to something I'm familiar with because it's so overwhelming to have so much available. There's so much new music that it feels like there's no new music at the same time. At times I'll try to listen to the new hits playlists and I find myself skipping a majority of it because much of what's popular these days just doesn't appeal to me. On the other hand I am listening to a lot of "new" older stuff that I'd missed over the last 20+ years, so that's been fun rediscovering things that I'd missed because I had to make a decision between what albums I was going to buy while I spent time in Best Buy scouring the large cd sections. π’ The Discover page on Spotify has helped out a lot with that, but I guess it's also reinforcing the not looking for and/or finding actual new music thing.
I'm also very much an album versus singles/playlists listener, so I think that factors in here too. A few years ago I recognized this behavior and how I wasn't actively discovering much new anymore outside of what my favorites were releasing so I decided to challenge myself to listen to a different album a day for a whole year. That lasted about 9 months, which surprised me, and it sorta worked for awhile. I'd go to the new release page on Spotify and find whatever album each day and play it until I got tired of not finding much interesting. Then I defaulted back to the familiar for 5 days and on Friday and Saturday, I'd look for something new. That was a fun experiment while it lasted.
|
|
badrobot
3x Platinum Member
Joined: November 2006
Posts: 3,350
|
Post by badrobot on Aug 21, 2018 15:13:11 GMT -5
Great discussion!
Honestly I think a lot of people "solidify" by age 30 in many regards, not just music -- basically all of popular culture (except perhaps movies for some reason).
I agree with the previous poster who said they're still interested in new music, but not so much the artists themselves. I'm 37 and I'm the same way. I don't have any interest in the "celebrity" aspect -- I don't care about their personal lives or fashion lines or whatever. And if you are "famous" and it's not because of your art (music/acting mostly), then I have no idea who you are. Reality show stars, YouTubers, etc. -- I've got zero interest in following that.
Probably the biggest change for me with music is not that I stopped discovering new music, but I just have less and less overlap with *popular* music. I am usually familiar with maybe 25% of the Hot 100, whereas 15-20 years ago, I probably knew them all. I think part of this is the rise of the album bomb and the huge shift toward rap, but when I do give a hit song a listen out of curiosity, the vast majority are not interesting to me.
I am still unsure if my disinterest in the current popular music type -- which to my ears, sounds like virtually the same beat/instrumental to every song (a pretty basic mid-tempo 808 rhythm) usually with that "mumble-rap" vocal style -- is just a case of me not liking a trend, or if this is my new normal of just not being in sync with what's popular anymore.
|
|
|
Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 21, 2018 16:08:30 GMT -5
I definitely find this to be true. Interestingly, for me the streaming services has actually made it harder for me to discover new things because when I do actually open up Spotify, I default to something I'm familiar with because it's so overwhelming to have so much available. I think that's a thing for me as well. I don't subscribe to any streaming sites and I think a lot of it is because there's such a thing as too many options. I have nearly 1000 CDs and my iTunes has over 25,000 songs, which pretty much covers anything I'd ever want to listen to at any time - yet it's so common for me to have to find something I want to listen to because there are so many choices. I just bought a new car and I was disappointed to find out there wasn't a CD player in (though it has ApplePlay). I was kind of hoping to be able to take out a handful of CDs at a time to put in the car that would give me the opportunity to play those through and replace them with more. I know I can do that with a playlist on my iPhone or whatever but knowing I can just put my 2000s playlist on shuffle is so much easier - though less focused. So going back to finding new music, while I could seek and discover on my own, I do find there is something to be said for websites that kind of guide you a little bit of the way. I miss when Apple used to have their free song of the week in the music store. From like 2008 until they stopped it, I actually discovered a lot of great artists that I still listen to today. I guess I need something like that.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 21:18:35 GMT -5
I dont think that itΒ΄s about people not having time for new music, rather that there is none - almost 90 % of music is repeating the old one just with new tricks and technology. I want to have the same feeling and experience that I had with New jack Swing in the 90ies, but itΒ΄s simply impossible. I guess my brain is already full of these "old" acts and music, so the new one doesnt connect or attract it anymore. But the old tracks have also memories and nostalgia, so I still want to listen to these, also old urban and pop radio shows. So the pop music market is and should be directed towards younger people, because for them itΒ΄s new and exciting. Only new music IΒ΄m drawn to nowadays is from really different and original personalities with, so the will give me some new looks on life, but pop charts is not for this for sure. And then there are some anomalies like AdrianaΒ΄s "no Tears" or JanetΒ΄s "Made for Now" or SolangeΒ΄s "Cranes" or FosterΒ΄s "Sit next" which are still exciting for my "old brain".
|
|
|
Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 21, 2018 21:29:28 GMT -5
I dont think that itΒ΄s about people not having time for new music, rather that there is none - almost 90 % of music is repeating the old one just with new tricks and technology. Yeah ok
|
|
Gary
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2014
Posts: 45,688
|
Post by Gary on Aug 22, 2018 6:58:40 GMT -5
I wish it were true that 90% of today's music was just copying the old.
Today, if you can rap, you know or work with Drake and swear every third word on your song you will have a hit
Not true 10 or 20 years ago
|
|
Leigh
Moderator
Quietly better than you since 2005
Joined: February 2005
Posts: 3,773
Pronouns: he/him
Staff
|
Post by Leigh on Aug 22, 2018 7:16:57 GMT -5
At 34 this definitely applies to me when it comes to *new* new music. But I'm forever going back to discover old music that is new to me (both music from artists I already know and finding new artists along the way). I love delving into past decades and discovering artists and albums I've never listened to. When there are artists who singles and hits I know well, I love to go back and listen to their albums in consecutive order and really spend time on each album before moving on to the next. It's fun for me to travel through their career as if each album is new.
When it comes to my slow down in discovering new music, I think it's a mix of things. Being married to someone who isn't that interested in music, not going to bars and clubs anymore, not much caring for the current trends in Hot 100 music. I think while Spotify is a great tool for discovering new music, it has also made it overwhelming for me. There just seems to be so many new artists who can break out through social media and streaming services. My unfamiliarity with current artists snowballed until it got to the point where I just said "fuck it" and put on Etta James' debut album and found peace and contentment there :)
|
|
YourFaveIsAFlop
5x Platinum Member
Catch me in the fridge, right where the ice be
Joined: April 2014
Posts: 5,467
|
Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 22, 2018 7:56:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I think my big shift as I've gotten older is not caring about the fame/success of my favorite artists/songs like I did as a teenager. I just listen to what I like now, and I dont feel the need to stay up on what's popular.
|
|
Mylo13 π
Diamond Member
@grapefanatic
Wishing everyone an amazing day and life π
Joined: July 2017
Posts: 10,092
|
Post by Mylo13 π on Aug 22, 2018 8:05:59 GMT -5
I'm half-way there, so it's interesting to see all of this. I personally don't seek out new music heaps, but I get heaps of great suggestions from friends, charts and especially from Pulse that mostly fuels all my new music. So I keep a steady pace of new music that I like coming in, even without really trying.
|
|
Leigh
Moderator
Quietly better than you since 2005
Joined: February 2005
Posts: 3,773
Pronouns: he/him
Staff
|
Post by Leigh on Aug 22, 2018 8:59:52 GMT -5
Pulse has proven useful for me in regards to name familiarity. I'm aware of a lot of the current artists by name, but would in no way recognize their music or their voices (or usually, their faces).
Shazam has probably proven most useful to me for discovering music that is new to me. I'm forever hearing songs in coffee shops, stores, restaurants etc that I love and Shazam to listen to later.
|
|
forg
2x Platinum Member
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,355
|
Post by forg on Aug 27, 2018 1:29:20 GMT -5
I'm 30 and because I'm a chart geek I still do check out new songs and I have a spotify playlist labeled current but I have a bigger playlist which is TIME CAPSULE where I usually listen more than the current music. On radio though yeah I am definitely listening more to the adult contemporary stations than the CHR ones. I just like feeling of being surprised to hear a song I haven't heard in long time and then brings me back memories. And actually when I heard an old song again that I really liked I usually add in on my time capsule spotify playlist
|
|
wjr15
8x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2013
Posts: 8,592
|
Post by wjr15 on Sept 4, 2018 15:14:30 GMT -5
I'm 25 years old and I'm already on the decline of not caring much about new music. The music trends today don't interest me and are not up to par on how music was just a few years ago. I miss the days when a lead single or album release was an event with lots of hype, big budget music videos, iconic performances, and always the anticipation of what the artist is going to do next. My main era of music is around 2009 to 2015 and album eras always seemed like huge events (The Fame Monster, Teenage Dream, 1989, etc). Artists had distinct styles and personalities which made them stand out. Even groups like The Black Eyed Peas and LMFAO knew how to make a song an event. Today, all of the artists just blend together for me and there is not much creativity anymore. I can count the number of good music videos released this year on one hand.
Part of the lack of big budget eras is streaming. I feel like streaming has cut album eras shorter than the past because people move on from new music in less than a year, so these grand eras, with lots of money put into them, aren't as beneficial as they were at the beginning of the decade.
Thinking about the past few years, there's only a handful of popular artists that I was actually hyped for new eras. 2018 - Ariana. 2017 - Katy and Taylor. 2016 - Rihanna, Bruno, Ariana and The Weeknd. But again, that probably has to do with music trends, as pop music isn't the biggest genre at the moment.
I've actually been listening to more music from my high school and college days (2008-2015) than from the past 2 years. But that's because I associate that music to big things that happened in my youth (first car, graduations, first date, first relationship, first broken heart, college parties, 18th and 21st birthdays).
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 18:04:16 GMT -5
I'm almost half that age and I have already hit the point where I don't care too much to check out new music anymore. I guess I found my true taste already and that's older music rather than newer music.
|
|
someguy
Diamond Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 16,026
|
Post by someguy on Sept 4, 2018 21:08:48 GMT -5
This is certainly becoming true for me. Most new music I check out is new stuff from my favourites, instead of actual new artists. I still try to listen to all of the songs that make the country top 30 or 40 or so, but I mostly listen to my favourite artists these days.
In terms of CHR, I used to know most songs that they played, but now looking at this week's chart, there are songs in the top 5 that I've never heard before (and I would say I've heard less than half of the top 20, and even less of the top 40). That was never the case before.
It's not for lack of wanting to hear new music, but the time it takes just isn't there anymore with work/family/life commitments, as well as the fact that I stopped listening to the radio about 5 years ago or so.
|
|
|
Post by XanderAnthony on Sept 4, 2018 22:21:53 GMT -5
Not in the slightest in terms of myself. I'm 34 and My Itunes library has reached over 130,000 songs. I spend time every week surfing music blogs, checking what's new on Spotify, and checking in on charts. Anytime a new thread is made for a song here on pulse, I check that song out, and that goes for each genre sub-forum. I work full time, go out with friends, but always find time for music because it's something I'm passionate about. I suppose if It weren't a passion maybe I wouldn't be so vigilant about it?
|
|
groovetheory
New Member
Joined: June 2012
Posts: 469
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by groovetheory on Sept 5, 2018 4:21:08 GMT -5
I just turned 33 and I can relate. I always try to discover new music but nothing gets me excited as before so it is becoming exhausting. I realized last year that I abandoned my old favorites in favor of discovering new stuff. So this year i decided to rediscover 90s and 00's, or even the 80s. There are loads of music in those eras that I don't know about and those are the sounds I really like.
I think it also depends on the life you are living. Back in 90's and 00's my life was full of drama - or so i thought lol. Now its all settled and maybe I don't really relate to the new stuff.
|
|
|
Post by Walking Contradiction on Sept 5, 2018 9:50:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm in my 30s, I make a point to look for new music, but it's become harder work to find stuff I like. Having a college radio show does help motivate me to do that. I've pretty much given up on pop and hip-hop (even the stuff the critics like doesn't usually appeal to me), and I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with Alternative radio as well. Most of the stuff I like nowadays is just to the left of what Alternative is playing, as well as some stuff on the AAA charts, but some of the latter still sounds too "adult" to for my tastes. I guess I'm in transition.
|
|
iHype.
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2014
Posts: 4,554
|
Post by iHype. on Sept 8, 2018 1:32:25 GMT -5
This is definitely undeniable. You can ask so many people 35+ 'what's the newest album you've listened to', 'name 3 hits from this year you know and love', and etc and they'd draw blank. Most of my family is an example. It's weird.. and sad to me, how people fall out of love with new music. It's like for 90% of people, when they hit 30-45 they turn to listening to their old music they grew up on for the rest of their lives. I just don't get it.
I'm always discovering so much music all the time, and I just can't imagine me stopping. Ofcourse growing up in the social media age has definitely had a big influence more than likely, and maybe that will cause a shift with this current generation. They'll be so used to streaming services and such as discovery methods they never fall out of the loop once they get older.
The music industry making discovering current music a thing for the middle-aged should happen. The charts/stats would get a sizable gain since that is the biggest population demographic.
This is also why when people complain about the Hot 100 being too youth-oriented, I laugh -- single sales is youth-oriented, streams is youth-oriented, radio is youth-oriented. Billboard practically has no choice but to have a youth-oriented chart, as that's who is dominating all the consumption mediums. Middle aged and older really just don't seem to care for finding new music much.
|
|
YourFaveIsAFlop
5x Platinum Member
Catch me in the fridge, right where the ice be
Joined: April 2014
Posts: 5,467
|
Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Sept 8, 2018 6:21:53 GMT -5
This is definitely undeniable. You can ask so many people 35+ 'what's the newest album you've listened to', 'name 3 hits from this year you know and love', and etc and they'd draw blank. Most of my family is an example. It's weird.. and sad to me, how people fall out of love with new music. It's like for 90% of people, when they hit 30-45 they turn to listening to their old music they grew up on for the rest of their lives. I just don't get it. You'll get it when you're working 50 hours a week and raising kids. It's not that people suddenly start hating music, you just dont have the time to dedicate to actively listening anymore. Other things become more important. You'll passively listen to radio on your way to work or pick up the kids, you might see some performances of songs on a late night show that you like, but you won't feel motivated to seek it out.
|
|
|
Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 8, 2018 7:48:38 GMT -5
That and most music that is marketed is made for younger audiences anyway. Once you're in your 30s, you're older than nearly all the artists making the pop charts. The exception is if you're following country or rock, and even then, new artists in those genres are young too. It's rare to have a new artist come along who isn't in their 20s who can break through with 30+ music fans. I'm trying to think of some now and the only one to come along is Lucinda Williams. I'm sure there are others. I just woke up.
|
|
bat1990
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2004
Posts: 12,972
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by bat1990 on Sept 8, 2018 8:32:16 GMT -5
This is also why when people complain about the Hot 100 being too youth-oriented, I laugh -- single sales is youth-oriented, streams is youth-oriented, radio is youth-oriented. Billboard practically has no choice but to have a youth-oriented chart, as that's who is dominating all the consumption mediums. Middle aged and older really just don't seem to care for finding new music much. THIS. There was a corporate shift after 2000 to move in a youth-only direction with popular music and now we are in the late stages of it.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 8:33:20 GMT -5
This is definitely undeniable. You can ask so many people 35+ 'what's the newest album you've listened to', 'name 3 hits from this year you know and love', and etc and they'd draw blank. Most of my family is an example. It's weird.. and sad to me, how people fall out of love with new music. It's like for 90% of people, when they hit 30-45 they turn to listening to their old music they grew up on for the rest of their lives. I just don't get it. You'll get it when you're working 50 hours a week and raising kids. It's not that people suddenly start hating music, you just dont have the time to dedicate to actively listening anymore. Other things become more important. You'll passively listen to radio on your way to work or pick up the kids, you might see some performances of songs on a late night show that you like, but you won't feel motivated to seek it out. It's also because you develop your general taste in music when you're younger, and the current popular music will stray further and further from that as time goes on. Also pop music caters toward people in their teens and 20's. As you get older, the current hits get less and less relatable. Songs about partying until the sun comes up or puppy love crushes are just not themes you're looking for in new music as you get older. You may still enjoy songs with more juvenile themes when you're older if they're the ones you actually grew up with though.
|
|