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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 8:29:51 GMT -5
Both Pump and X still have strong followings, more so X, Pump is still relevant. Maybe not as much as he was a couple of months ago, but saying he has “no relevancy anymore” is an exaggeration. Pump tries a new style in the snippet he previewed and it fits really well with this song. I think it has mainstream potential (bias aside), but who knows, I could be wrong. Not relevant enough to hit #1 tho. SAD! barely had enough points to hit #1 after his death and that was all over the news. Time will tell.. |
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Post by slw84 on Aug 30, 2018 9:02:29 GMT -5
Britney remains a legend stop hating. Lmao he wasn't insulting Britney you weirdo, he was just mentioning that HIAM had a worse run than TIA, but their runs are pretty similar. You stans need to return to Twitter. edgy Britney remains a legend stop hating. TIA was a fad and HIAM will have more wks on the hot 100. Also, at least HIAM was followed up by a top 3 smash moving on to the next single. This ain't atrl I love Britney as much as the next, just pointing out the obvious TIA pales in comparison... Girls Like You getting #1 after Drake is a lock, but I feel Better Now could be #1 after GLY does. lettuce pray Really hoping this coming week is IMF’s last week at the top, then Maroon 5 gets the #1 for a quick week and then Post drops an MV, then Better Now gets there. what is Post waiting for? hopefully, Rihanna is next after him |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 30, 2018 9:08:58 GMT -5
Really hoping this coming week is IMF’s last week at the top, then Maroon 5 gets the #1 for a quick week and then Post drops an MV, then Better Now gets there. Don't think so. I think IMF has at least two weeks left at #1, three weeks if Post Malone doesn't pull the trigger on a music video by next week Friday. Either way, the next #1 is more than likely between GLY and BN. |
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Post by badrobot on Aug 30, 2018 9:34:45 GMT -5
Who are all these names being thrown around? Wth is everyone talking about? How the hell do you not know about Lil Pump and XXXTentacion? I honestly have zero clue who Lil Pump is, and only know of XXXTentacion because of this forum and his death, but I have never heard one of his songs. Do you know Years & Years, iamamiwhoami, Jaded, Lizzo? Those are some artists that people in my social circles have talked about recently. Not everyone has the same frame of reference. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 30, 2018 10:30:01 GMT -5
Lmao he wasn't insulting Britney you weirdo, he was just mentioning that HIAM had a worse run than TIA, but their runs are pretty similar. You stans need to return to Twitter. edgy This ain't atrl I love Britney as much as the next, just pointing out the obvious TIA pales in comparison... With what evidence? TIA didn't spend much time at the top but it's impact on pop culture was real, the song and video was talked about for weeks, hell there's still people talking about it, it's definitely the video of the year. There was a billion articles written about it, a billion videos trying to decipher the video and the lyrics, a bunch of parodies. The hype was real and the impact was felt. Tell me how HIAM made a bigger impact than TIA, cuz I would love to hear it Jan. |
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Post by renaboss on Aug 30, 2018 10:44:02 GMT -5
Did Aretha actually chart again? I forgot to check and can't get the Hot 100 to load right now (my connection sucks and those chart pages take up too much).
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 30, 2018 10:49:06 GMT -5
^In the Hot 100, unfortunately, she didn't. Respect only rose 17-14 in Hot 100 Recurrents.
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Post by kierz7 on Aug 30, 2018 11:18:41 GMT -5
IMF: 8-9 W/ #1.
GLY: 1-2 W/ #1
BN: 1 W/ #1
Then Rihanna releases her lead single which hopefully sits atop the Hot 100 for anything between 5-10 weeks or beyond if it's a genuine smash-hit.
I heard through the grapevine that she's releasing 21/9.
HURRY UP, RIH.
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Post by feoba on Aug 30, 2018 11:33:15 GMT -5
IMF: 8-9 W/ #1. GLY: 1-2 W/ #1 BN: 1 W/ #1 Then Rihanna releases her lead single which hopefully sits atop the Hot 100 for anything between 5-10 weeks or beyond if it's a genuine smash-hit. I heard through the grapevine that she's releasing 21/9. HURRY UP, RIH. I’d be perfectly okay with this. Hopefully Rih’s Lead gets 10+ weeks at #1. I want something to top We Found Love. |
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Post by kierz7 on Aug 30, 2018 11:58:43 GMT -5
Yes.
No lead Female act has topped the Hot 100 for more than 10 week's since Carey's "We Belong Together" in 2005, so it would be nice to see that happen again.
Beyonce: Irreplaceable - 10 Weeks. (2006/2007)
Rihanna: We Found Love - 10 Weeks. (2011/2012)
Adele: Hello - 10 Weeks. (2015/2016).
Halsey was "technically" number-one for 12 weeks but, again, she was a featured artist.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 30, 2018 12:13:12 GMT -5
Lmao he wasn't insulting Britney you weirdo, he was just mentioning that HIAM had a worse run than TIA, but their runs are pretty similar. You stans need to return to Twitter. edgy This ain't atrl I love Britney as much as the next, just pointing out the obvious TIA pales in comparison.. I'd say you're making a mountain out of a molehill here, but there isn't even a molehill to make a mountain out of. I am bewildered and impressed that you took an objective comparison of two songs's chart runs and made it out to be an attack on Britney Spears's legacy. Just... how? If I compared the runs of Radioactive and Sail, would you think I was "coming for" AWOLNATION? |
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Post by dajross6 on Aug 30, 2018 13:42:53 GMT -5
I hate to try and change the subject, but I'll try and take chart discussion (it can be 9/18 or whatever) in a different direction. While flipping through this week's Billboard issue over coffee this morning, it really occurred to me (again) how stupid the genre-specific charts have become. Hot Country Songs has had the same #1 since November, Top Rock Songs has Imagine Dragons in 4 of the top 5 places, and so on. I know these are based on the Hot 100, but what value is this really providing to the industry? It tells us that the top Country song is a pop song, and the top Rock group is a pop group. Is the labeling just incorrect for these songs/artists, or will Billboard continue to publish charts that are based solely on streaming to genres where it isn't popular/needed?
I know many people are frustrated with how slow the upper half of the Hot 100 is, but the genre specific charts are so boring it isn't even worth publishing at this point. Is this something everyone sees as changing? Just curious on opinions.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 30, 2018 13:59:08 GMT -5
I understand the point of the genre charts how they are now. Technically speaking, Meant To Be is probsbly still the most popular song in the country that qualifies as country and Imagine Dragons are the most popular band in the country that qualifies as rock (depending on who you ask) so their singles get more attention by default because of the wider audience.
The issue with the charts is that they aren’t serving their audience. If I want to see what the most popular country song is, I can simply go through the Hot 100 from the top until I get to a country song and there it is. But what about dedicated country music fans and industry? What is in for them now? Same with rock. If I want to see what dedicated rock people are buying/streaming, I’d check that out. Granted, streaming sites likely don’t differentiate their listeners like that and maybe that’s why the charts are the way they are. Only radio separates the music by genre. People don’t stop themselves from listening to one or two types of music and then register themselves on retail/streaming sites so Billboard knows how to label them for charting purposes.
I’d say those charts are becoming more obsolete. I think Bb should have kept the formula as it was and introduced a new chart to work alongside it.
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Post by Gary on Aug 30, 2018 14:05:55 GMT -5
Country airplay is still the big chart and the one embraced by country fans.
Hot Country Songs in place since 2012 contains 4 of the 5 biggest songs in the history of country music, if you take it at face value. 40 weeks at #1 is phenomenal regardless of what chart it is.
As said, are country fans the reason this song is still charting so high. Clearly not. Cross format songs will tend to do well here.
Anyway, there are lots of valid charts produced by the magazine. All of course are valid if you take it in the context presented.
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Post by bannedonatrl on Aug 30, 2018 14:11:40 GMT -5
I can't believe how many labels supposedly chased him. They're so clueless. labels cant tell the difference between a Lil Pump or a Lil Uzi Vert and which one has an actual fanbase ppl were begging for Uzi’s debut album |
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Post by iHype. on Aug 30, 2018 14:13:53 GMT -5
I hate to try and change the subject, but I'll try and take chart discussion (it can be 9/18 or whatever) in a different direction. While flipping through this week's Billboard issue over coffee this morning, it really occurred to me (again) how stupid the genre-specific charts have become. Hot Country Songs has had the same #1 since November, Top Rock Songs has Imagine Dragons in 4 of the top 5 places, and so on. I know these are based on the Hot 100, but what value is this really providing to the industry? It tells us that the top Country song is a pop song, and the top Rock group is a pop group. Is the labeling just incorrect for these songs/artists, or will Billboard continue to publish charts that are based solely on streaming to genres where it isn't popular/needed? I know many people are frustrated with how slow the upper half of the Hot 100 is, but the genre specific charts are so boring it isn't even worth publishing at this point. Is this something everyone sees as changing? Just curious on opinions. To speed them up I really think only airplay from the format should be included. (Only Country formats for Country Songs, Rock formats for Rock songs, etc) To me, it doesn't really make sense that if an R&B station played 'Meant to Be' (wild example) it'd count towards measuring the most popular Country song. A large part of the huge reigns for crossover hits is because the overall airplay they accumulate. That would actually create lots of possible change. Sales are dead, so basically charts now are Streams + Airplay. Meant to Be is #1 on Country Streams, around #31 on Country Airplay (including recurrents). Tequila is #3 on Country Streams, around #10 on Country Airplay (including recurrents). Not including crossover airplay, Tequila would likely overtake MTB as #1 on Country. Tequila also leads in sales. |
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Post by slw84 on Aug 30, 2018 14:14:30 GMT -5
IMF: 8-9 W/ #1. GLY: 1-2 W/ #1 BN: 1 W/ #1 Then Rihanna releases her lead single which hopefully sits atop the Hot 100 for anything between 5-10 weeks or beyond if it's a genuine smash-hit. I heard through the grapevine that she's releasing 21/9. HURRY UP, RIH.  |
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Post by dajross6 on Aug 30, 2018 14:44:45 GMT -5
I hate to try and change the subject, but I'll try and take chart discussion (it can be 9/18 or whatever) in a different direction. While flipping through this week's Billboard issue over coffee this morning, it really occurred to me (again) how stupid the genre-specific charts have become. Hot Country Songs has had the same #1 since November, Top Rock Songs has Imagine Dragons in 4 of the top 5 places, and so on. I know these are based on the Hot 100, but what value is this really providing to the industry? It tells us that the top Country song is a pop song, and the top Rock group is a pop group. Is the labeling just incorrect for these songs/artists, or will Billboard continue to publish charts that are based solely on streaming to genres where it isn't popular/needed? I know many people are frustrated with how slow the upper half of the Hot 100 is, but the genre specific charts are so boring it isn't even worth publishing at this point. Is this something everyone sees as changing? Just curious on opinions. To speed them up I really think only airplay from the format should be included. (Only Country formats for Country Songs, Rock formats for Rock songs, etc) To me, it doesn't really make sense that if an R&B station played 'Meant to Be' (wild example) it'd count towards measuring the most popular Country song. A large part of the huge reigns for crossover hits is because the overall airplay they accumulate. That would actually create lots of possible change. Sales are dead, so basically charts now are Streams + Airplay. Meant to Be is #1 on Country Streams, around #31 on Country Airplay (including recurrents). Tequila is #3 on Country Streams, around #10 on Country Airplay (including recurrents). Not including crossover airplay, Tequila would likely overtake MTB as #1 on Country. Tequila also leads in sales. I understand the formula and logistics of it, and to be fair Tequila is now getting pop/Hot AC/AC airplay/streams/sales since it has crossed over. Not to the sum that Meant to Be has, but far more than the other country songs in the top 20. The premise is pretty dumb in my eyes and I have long been relegated to stumbling across each genre having a main chart that makes zero sense. I understand that airplay is still what most fans look it, but inside the magazine itself 2/3 of the page is this Hot Country Songs chart, and 1/3 is split between the top 20 airplay songs and top 20 country albums (which is even more laughable due to the decline of albums as a whole). From an imaging perspective it really shows that Billboard is pretty out of touch beyond their "big charts" (Hot 100, Billboard 200, I guess Artist chart now), and I can't see Country/label executives really gleaming much from these. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 15:53:04 GMT -5
Really hoping this coming week is IMF’s last week at the top, then Maroon 5 gets the #1 for a quick week and then Post drops an MV, then Better Now gets there. No way man, we need drake to beat usher's record |
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Post by Envoirment on Aug 30, 2018 16:04:14 GMT -5
Glad to see Maroon 5 are likely to get a week at #1 with Drake falling in airplay/streaming whilst Maroon 5 are stable. Maroon 5's airplay should remain somewhat stable for another couple of weeks thanks to a slow decent and it's still got quite a bit of room to grow on AC.
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 30, 2018 18:19:16 GMT -5
Ok let’s say this. IF the better now music video is released and IF it makes an impact and sends better now to #1 and replace in my feelings, would billboard be dumb and say the rap songs ruling the top spot for however many weeks has continued with better now being #1
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Post by bannedonatrl on Aug 30, 2018 18:47:16 GMT -5
Ok let’s say this. IF the better now music video is released and IF it makes an impact and sends better now to #1 and replace in my feelings, would billboard be dumb and say the rap songs ruling the top spot for however many weeks has continued with better now being #1 singing rappers will never be considered pop. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 30, 2018 21:32:03 GMT -5
With what evidence? TIA didn't spend much time at the top but it's impact on pop culture was real, the song and video was talked about for weeks, hell there's still people talking about it, it's definitely the video of the year. There was a billion articles written about it, a billion videos trying to decipher the video and the lyrics, a bunch of parodies. The hype was real and the impact was felt. Tell me how HIAM made a bigger impact than TIA, cuz I would love to hear it Jan. It invented a new genre of music called "dubstep", later copied by dubstep artists such as Rihanna and LMFAO. That is pretty big impact. It was also on the front page of CNN and other prestigious papers for beating the record for highest first week sales and first day airplay. The video featured many iconic scenes, and is already as 122 million views. I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious. |
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Post by Sambalada on Aug 30, 2018 21:47:31 GMT -5
what even is a tia
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Aug 30, 2018 21:48:10 GMT -5
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Post by dynamac on Aug 30, 2018 22:44:56 GMT -5
How the hell do you not know about Lil Pump and XXXTentacion? I honestly have zero clue who Lil Pump is, and only know of XXXTentacion because of this forum and his death, but I have never heard one of his songs. Do you know Years & Years, iamamiwhoami, Jaded, Lizzo? Those are some artists that people in my social circles have talked about recently. Not everyone has the same frame of reference. I tried the latest years and years Album when it came out, it didn’t really hold my attention so I haven’t looked for more like them. IJS That if you’re reading a forum based on Billboard charts, I don’t think it’s unrealistic to assume everybody knows artists who have hits with multiple weeks in the top 10 are |
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Post by Zach on Aug 30, 2018 23:02:14 GMT -5
This thread is full of so much delusion.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 30, 2018 23:14:57 GMT -5
Um, Eminem just dropped an album out of nowhere.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 23:33:19 GMT -5
Um, Eminem just dropped an album out of nowhere. It won't effect this week or probably next week as well |
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Post by tanooki on Aug 31, 2018 0:26:49 GMT -5
I'm listening to the new Em now and its already better than Revival. Not his A game so far, but its an improvement I guess.
Edit: its still not good
edit 2: nvm this sucks
edit 3: STEPPING STONE IS ACTUALLY KINDA GOOD
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