Billboard Hot 100: 9/29/18

[owenlovesmusic]

Sept 20, 2018 21:20:23 GMT -5 @drakeisskinny said:

Why don't people stream songs made by women

The world is sexist

[jenglisbe]

Sept 20, 2018 21:20:23 GMT -5 @drakeisskinny said:

Why don't people stream songs made by women

It is interesting, but maybe the audience who streams is like the country audience where male listeners don't like music by females. I mean, hip-hop does well in streaming but is fairly sexist on the whole, just like country music.

[do u know da wae]

Chill calling everything sexist lmao

Hip-hop dominated streaming. Hip-hop is a male dominated genre. You might as well ask why females dominated iTunes in the early 2010s... it’s because pop is more female skewed

Nobody sits down and is like, “damn I wanna listen to this song, but it’s by a woman. Fuck that, she should be in the kitchen! I ain’t listening to this crap!!!”

Like cmon people

[brady47]

Sept 20, 2018 16:45:31 GMT -5 Mauricio said:

1 =
MAROON 5
Girls Like You
165.897 +1.110
5 =
DRAKE
In My Feelings
107.071 -1.708
The gap is only getting larger

PAYOLA

[Au$tin]

Sept 20, 2018 22:32:34 GMT -5 do u know da wae said:

Chill calling everything sexist lmao

Hip-hop dominated streaming. Hip-hop is a male dominated genre. You might as well ask why females dominated iTunes in the early 2010s... it’s because pop is more female skewed

Nobody sits down and is like, “damn I wanna listen to this song, but it’s by a woman. f**k that, she should be in the kitchen! I ain’t listening to this crap!!!”

Like cmon people

Hip-hop is male dominated because of rampant sexism in the genre, though.

And you are GROSSLY underestimating people. The number of guys that think listening to females isn't masculine or is somehow gay is alarming to say the least. It's improved in some respects over the years, but to say sexism doesn't exist in music is asinine and blatantly ignorant.

You're also very confused about pop. Pop females did indeed dominate in 2008-2015, but the amount of effort needed by those pop females to get to that spot was exponentially more than their male counterparts. Pop females are expected to uphold certain images and extravagant imagery otherwise they're shunned. All Ed Sheeran has to do is brood over a guitar and he's fine, but a girl and a guitar doing pop music is considered "too adult" or "boring." Justin Bieber literally spit on his fans and is still relevant, but everyone was ready to cancel Miley Cyrus for exploring her own sexuality. Bruno Mars produces fun music and everything is great, but Kesha was bashed for creating trashy pop. Britney Spears was driven to a mental breakdown by paparazzi and was pushed to return before she was fully healthy, but how often do you see paparazzi even care about a male popstar's life outside of the women they're currently dating? Speaking of which, Taylor Swift is ridiculed for dating several men over several years, but not one eyelash bashed at how many women John Mayer dates. Sexism is in pop music, it just presents itself in a different way than hip-hop or country.

[do u know da wae]

Sept 20, 2018 22:56:50 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 20, 2018 22:32:34 GMT -5 do u know da wae said:

Chill calling everything sexist lmao

Hip-hop dominated streaming. Hip-hop is a male dominated genre. You might as well ask why females dominated iTunes in the early 2010s... it’s because pop is more female skewed

Nobody sits down and is like, “damn I wanna listen to this song, but it’s by a woman. f**k that, she should be in the kitchen! I ain’t listening to this crap!!!”

Like cmon people

Hip-hop is male dominated because of rampant sexism in the genre, though.

And you are GROSSLY underestimating people. The number of guys that think listening to females isn't masculine or is somehow gay is alarming to say the least. It's improved in some respects over the years, but to say sexism doesn't exist in music is asinine and blatantly ignorant.

You're also very confused about pop. Pop females did indeed dominate in 2008-2015, but the amount of effort needed by those pop females to get to that spot was exponentially more than their male counterparts. Pop females are expected to uphold certain images and extravagant imagery otherwise they're shunned. All Ed Sheeran has to do is brood over a guitar and he's fine, but a girl and a guitar doing pop music is considered "too adult" or "boring." Justin Bieber literally spit on his fans and is still relevant, but everyone was ready to cancel Miley Cyrus for exploring her own sexuality. Bruno Mars produces fun music and everything is great, but Kesha was bashed for creating trashy pop. Britney Spears was driven to a mental breakdown by paparazzi and was pushed to return before she was fully healthy, but how often do you see paparazzi even care about a male popstar's life outside of the women they're currently dating? Speaking of which, Taylor Swift is ridiculed for dating several men over several years, but not one eyelash bashed at how many women John Mayer dates.

Yeah, this is all propoganda, sorry to say it. JB isn’t held to a lower standard because he’s a dude - everybody calls him a douchebag. The thing is, today more than ever, music sells instead of image. Back in the 2008-2015 era, image sold, and females also dominated which made it seem like females needed to maintain a good image. Rihanna has done jackshit except drop music and she’s the most successful singles artist of our generation.

And no, rap isn’t sexist. Listen to female rap, it’s the same shit just reversed genders.

[velaxti]

Sept 20, 2018 21:20:23 GMT -5 @drakeisskinny said:

Why don't people stream songs made by women

There are hardly any songs that are actually made by women in the first place. Some songs have female vocalists but are usually written, produced, etc. by men.

[Au$tin]

Sept 20, 2018 23:10:21 GMT -5 do u know da wae said:

Sept 20, 2018 22:56:50 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Hip-hop is male dominated because of rampant sexism in the genre, though.

And you are GROSSLY underestimating people. The number of guys that think listening to females isn't masculine or is somehow gay is alarming to say the least. It's improved in some respects over the years, but to say sexism doesn't exist in music is asinine and blatantly ignorant.

You're also very confused about pop. Pop females did indeed dominate in 2008-2015, but the amount of effort needed by those pop females to get to that spot was exponentially more than their male counterparts. Pop females are expected to uphold certain images and extravagant imagery otherwise they're shunned. All Ed Sheeran has to do is brood over a guitar and he's fine, but a girl and a guitar doing pop music is considered "too adult" or "boring." Justin Bieber literally spit on his fans and is still relevant, but everyone was ready to cancel Miley Cyrus for exploring her own sexuality. Bruno Mars produces fun music and everything is great, but Kesha was bashed for creating trashy pop. Britney Spears was driven to a mental breakdown by paparazzi and was pushed to return before she was fully healthy, but how often do you see paparazzi even care about a male popstar's life outside of the women they're currently dating? Speaking of which, Taylor Swift is ridiculed for dating several men over several years, but not one eyelash bashed at how many women John Mayer dates.

Yeah, this is all propoganda, sorry to say it. JB isn’t held to a lower standard because he’s a dude - everybody calls him a douchebag. The thing is, today more than ever, music sells instead of image. Back in the 2008-2015 era, image sold, and females also dominated which made it seem like females needed to maintain a good image. Rihanna has done jackshit except drop music and she’s the most successful singles artist of our generation.

And no, rap isn’t sexist. Listen to female rap, it’s the same s**t just reversed genders.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying at all, or you have no idea what all sexism entails.

Yes, a lot of people think Bieber is a douche, but being a douche doesn't end his career like it would if he were a female pop artist. That is sexism.

Rihanna has "done jackshit"? What? Rihanna's career is built on an empire of image.

When people say rap is sexist, they don't mean the lyrics, they mean the industry treat women poorly. There's a reason female rappers struggle to break into mainstream success, and when they do, they're put on a completely different pedestal and have a whole different set of standards than their male counterparts. Sexism is not just about wage gaps and sexual harassment, it's also about how people are expected to carry themselves in their industries, and the music industry is notoriously sexist in that regard.

[Au$tin]

Sept 20, 2018 23:39:50 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Sept 20, 2018 21:20:23 GMT -5 @drakeisskinny said:

Why don't people stream songs made by women

There are hardly any songs that are actually made by women in the first place. Some songs have female vocalists but are usually written, produced, etc. by men.

Clearly he meant "performed by female vocalists" and not "entirely crafted by females," which is a whole different issue itself.

[iHype.]

Drake is #1, #2, and #3 on the top Urban station in America.

[IMF is listed #4, but it's tied in spins with #3 and has a larger audience]

[kierz7]

The ONLY song I see dethroning "Girls Like You" from atop the Hot 100 Airplay is Rihanna's lead single (or at least a single featuring Rihanna that has great crossover potential).

"Youngblood" is growing but the gap is still far too significant for it to takeover anytime soon (and every song above it is declining), unless "Girls Like You" begins a rapid downfall as of next week.

.....

Speaking of Rihanna, is this Bitch seriously not going to release anything this year? LMFAO!

In that case, 2018 will mark the first year that the Hot 100's biggest Top 10/#1 force this millenium hasn't released a single since her debut in 2005 and hasn't had a top 10 since 2005 also.

UGH. I miss Riri. on the charts. I pray that she releases VERY soon.

[do u know da wae]

Sept 21, 2018 0:39:15 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 20, 2018 23:10:21 GMT -5 do u know da wae said:

Yeah, this is all propoganda, sorry to say it. JB isn’t held to a lower standard because he’s a dude - everybody calls him a douchebag. The thing is, today more than ever, music sells instead of image. Back in the 2008-2015 era, image sold, and females also dominated which made it seem like females needed to maintain a good image. Rihanna has done jackshit except drop music and she’s the most successful singles artist of our generation.

And no, rap isn’t sexist. Listen to female rap, it’s the same s**t just reversed genders.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying at all, or you have no idea what all sexism entails.

Yes, a lot of people think Bieber is a douche, but being a douche doesn't end his career like it would if he were a female pop artist. That is sexism.

Rihanna has "done jackshit"? What? Rihanna's career is built on an empire of image.

When people say rap is sexist, they don't mean the lyrics, they mean the industry treat women poorly. There's a reason female rappers struggle to break into mainstream success, and when they do, they're put on a completely different pedestal and have a whole different set of standards than their male counterparts. Sexism is not just about wage gaps and sexual harassment, it's also about how people are expected to carry themselves in their industries, and the music industry is notoriously sexist in that regard.

Female rappers struggle not because of sexism but because the male voice traditionally works better for hip-hop. Just like the female voice traditionally works better for pop

sexism is mostly a myth. You’re entitled to your opinion, but to keep on repeating that females that have the success of males had to work harder or produce better music is a little bit insulting to the males who have worked their asses off

[Future Captain]

Holy shit. Youngblood is still 65m audience away from GLY. Even if someone like Rih release a super radio smash, GLY still have at least 4-5 more weeks on top

[kierz7]

Sept 21, 2018 7:22:43 GMT -5 Future Captain said:

Holy s**t. Youngblood is still 65m audience away from GLY. Even if someone like Rih release a super radio smash, GLY still have at least 4-5 more weeks on top

nnn.

The fact that "Girls Like You" just may become the longest-running Airplay number-one single of the decade and surpass three other songs that are all tied at twelve weeks.

TRAGIC.

[kierz7]

The Hot 100 Airplay Artists of the 2010's:

1) Rihanna

2) Bruno Mars

3) Maroon 5

...

- Rihanna has 10 #1 Songs + 54 Weeks at #1.

- Bruno Mars has 8 #1's + 47 Weeks at #1.

- Maroon 5 have 6 #1's + 41 Weeks at #1.

...

I see Rihanna extending her lead by the time her next era begins. She also has the most airplay top 10's, by far, and weeks in the top 10.

Maroon 5 and Bruno Mars are counterparts, somewhat. The former could possibly overtake the latter.

[Golden Bluebird]

kworb.net/airadio/

*** = Dropped or added a format

Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/09/21
1. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You f/Cardi B (166.577) (+0.680)
2. (=) POST MALONE - Better Now (144.580) (+0.151) ***
3. (=) CARDI B/BAD BUNNY/J BALVIN - I Like It (121.966) (-1.891)
4. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (121.951) (-0.763)
5. (+1) SELENA GOMEZ - Back To You (105.837) (+0.295)
6. (-1) DRAKE - In My Feelings (103.771) (-3.300)
7. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (102.119) (+1.867)
8. (=) TAYLOR SWIFT - Delicate (89.009) (+0.333)
9. (=) DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO - No Brainer (80.201) (+0.516)
10. (=) JUICE WRLD - Lucid Dreams (74.638) (+0.863)
11. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - No Tears Left to Cry (72.309) (-1.093)
12. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (68.957) (-0.692)
13. (=) LAUV - I Like Me Better (67.610) (+0.621)
14. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - God Is A Woman (67.301) (+0.625)
15. (=) ELLA MAI - Boo'd Up (65.348) (-0.695)
16. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Natural (65.259) (+0.913)
17. (=) TYGA - Taste f/Offset (62.904) (-0.221)
18. (=) OLD DOMINION - Hotel Key (62.349) (+0.912)
19. (+1) LOVELYTHEBAND - Broken (60.552) (+0.526)
20. (-1) LUKE BRYAN - Sunrise. Sunburn. Sunset (59.841) (-1.335)

Others:
23. (-1) DYLAN SCOTT - Hooked (56.922) (-1.234)
25. (+1) RUSSELL DICKERSON - Blue Tacoma (53.996) (+1.156)
35. (+1) COLE SWINDELL - Break Up In The End (43.683) (+0.936)
37. (=) DRAKE - Nonstop (42.476) (+0.510)
41. (+2) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (39.754) (+1.279)
46. (+1) LUKE COMBS - She Got The Best Of Me (37.543) (+0.802)
54. (+1) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (32.567) (+0.555)
56. (+2) QUEEN NAIJA - Medicine (31.757) (+0.526)
59. (+3) BEBE REXHA - I'm A Mess (30.773) (+0.762)
63. (-3) THE CHAINSMOKERS - Side Effects f/Emily Warren (29.405) (-0.705)
65. (+3) ELLA MAI - Trip (28.900) (+0.645)
66. (+3) TIESTO & DZEKO - Jackie Chan f/Preme/Post Malone (28.674) (+0.640)
70. (+4) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (27.877) (+0.570)

[lazer]

Falling Down is #1 on Spotify right now. Yep, I knew it was gonna be massive. I'm happy because it's a good sounding song but disappointed because the label released the song without the artists permission considering that they're dead and would not collaborate with each other if they're alive.

[ddlz]

6. (-1) DRAKE - In My Feelings (103.771) (-3.300)

Back to falling like a rock now that record is in the bag.

[tinawina]

Sept 21, 2018 8:15:14 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

The Hot 100 Airplay Artists of the 2010's:

1) Rihanna

2) Bruno Mars

3) Maroon 5

...

- Rihanna has 10 #1 Songs + 54 Weeks at #1.

- Bruno Mars has 8 #1's + 47 Weeks at #1.

- Maroon 5 have 6 #1's + 41 Weeks at #1.

...

I see Rihanna extending her lead by the time her next era begins. She also has the most airplay top 10's, by far, and weeks in the top 10.

Maroon 5 and Bruno Mars are counterparts, somewhat. The former could possibly overtake the latter.

What's the total for the most top 10s in the 2010s? I only ask because I know #1 can sometimes be a bit arbitrary, there are some huge hits out there that never hit #1. I suspect it won't change the list much though... Rih should still be at the top.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Sept 21, 2018 7:08:43 GMT -5 do u know da wae said:

Sept 21, 2018 0:39:15 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying at all, or you have no idea what all sexism entails.

Yes, a lot of people think Bieber is a douche, but being a douche doesn't end his career like it would if he were a female pop artist. That is sexism.

Rihanna has "done jackshit"? What? Rihanna's career is built on an empire of image.

When people say rap is sexist, they don't mean the lyrics, they mean the industry treat women poorly. There's a reason female rappers struggle to break into mainstream success, and when they do, they're put on a completely different pedestal and have a whole different set of standards than their male counterparts. Sexism is not just about wage gaps and sexual harassment, it's also about how people are expected to carry themselves in their industries, and the music industry is notoriously sexist in that regard.

Female rappers struggle not because of sexism but because the male voice traditionally works better for hip-hop. Just like the female voice traditionally works better for pop

sexism is mostly a myth. You’re entitled to your opinion, but to keep on repeating that females that have the success of males had to work harder or produce better music is a little bit insulting to the males who have worked their asses off

[Kris]

Sexism isn't really a myth, it's just something people use in 2018 when they have no other argument or evidence regarding the conversation. If you work hard to get where you want to get, you'll find success. People just find so many excuses as to why they aren't successful that they choose to blame something else. In terms of Hip-Hop, yes there are fewer female rappers. Of course there is going to be less. There is a massive history of male rap groups and soloists. Why would a label take a risk at pushing a female artist that might not be that good versus something they know has a history of making them money? It isn't sexism, it's a business. 

If I made millions of dollars selling chocolate bars and thousands for selling juice, why would I push to sell more juice when people obviously want more chocolate bars? 

There is going to be a day when there are more female rappers than males, it's just a matter of time, but don't call it what it isn't because of your personal views. 

(not personally attacking anyone but this subject has come up so often in the forums)

Anyways not trying to start a flame war, just trying to justify the above posts. 

[jtd Thee Stallion]

I’m expecting September by Earth, Wind & Fire to re-enter the top 200 (and likely 100) on Spotify on tomorrow’s update.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Sept 21, 2018 11:21:42 GMT -5 Kris said:

Sexism isn't really a myth, it's just something people use in 2018 when they have no other argument or evidence regarding the conversation. If you work hard to get where you want to get, you'll find success. People just find so many excuses as to why they aren't successful that they choose to blame something else. In terms of Hip-Hop, yes there are fewer female rappers. Of course there is going to be less. There is a massive history of male rap groups and soloists. Why would a label take a risk at pushing a female artist that might not be that good versus something they know has a history of making them money? It isn't sexism, it's a business. 

If I made millions of dollars selling chocolate bars and thousands for selling juice, why would I push to sell more juice when people obviously want more chocolate bars? 

There is going to be a day when there are more female rappers than males, it's just a matter of time, but don't call it what it isn't because of your personal views. 

(not personally attacking anyone but this subject has come up so often in the forums)

Anyways not trying to start a flame war, just trying to justify the above posts. 

The fact that you have to work harder as woman to achieve the same success as a man is literally what sexism is...

[Au$tin]

Sept 21, 2018 11:21:42 GMT -5 Kris said:

Sexism isn't really a myth, it's just something people use in 2018 when they have no other argument or evidence regarding the conversation. If you work hard to get where you want to get, you'll find success. People just find so many excuses as to why they aren't successful that they choose to blame something else. In terms of Hip-Hop, yes there are fewer female rappers. Of course there is going to be less. There is a massive history of male rap groups and soloists. Why would a label take a risk at pushing a female artist that might not be that good versus something they know has a history of making them money? It isn't sexism, it's a business. 

If I made millions of dollars selling chocolate bars and thousands for selling juice, why would I push to sell more juice when people obviously want more chocolate bars?

That's just not the same thing. Women aren't mysterious objects that do different things than men. Men and women are humans and both can produce music that people enjoy. Not hiring people based on their gender is literally the definition of sexism in the workplace.

Holy shit, y'all are delirious and clueless. Turn a blind eye all you want, but that's not going to change facts. Sexism is real and rampant. Saying it isn't real because "it's always been male dominant and change is hard" is like saying racism isn't real because "it's always been white dominated and change is hard." That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just that it's now presenting itself in a completely different way as society changes.

I'd expect this out of keke, the one that said "God's Plan" would be controversial if released today, but wouldn't clarify what they meant or their reasoning after multiple attempts to literally drag it out of them, but, Kris? You, really? Come on, don't be stupid.

[jtd Thee Stallion]

The people who say sexism doesn’t exist prolly don’t think racism exists either.

Okay I’ll take my leave.

[Az Paynter]

The people who say sexism doesn't exist are the reason why sexism exists. :sip2:

[ur local neighborhood dbender]

[kierz7]

Sept 21, 2018 11:21:42 GMT -5 Kris said:

Sexism isn't really a myth, it's just something people use in 2018 when they have no other argument or evidence regarding the conversation. If you work hard to get where you want to get, you'll find success. People just find so many excuses as to why they aren't successful that they choose to blame something else. In terms of Hip-Hop, yes there are fewer female rappers. Of course there is going to be less. There is a massive history of male rap groups and soloists. Why would a label take a risk at pushing a female artist that might not be that good versus something they know has a history of making them money? It isn't sexism, it's a business. 

If I made millions of dollars selling chocolate bars and thousands for selling juice, why would I push to sell more juice when people obviously want more chocolate bars? 

There is going to be a day when there are more female rappers than males, it's just a matter of time, but don't call it what it isn't because of your personal views. 

(not personally attacking anyone but this subject has come up so often in the forums)

Anyways not trying to start a flame war, just trying to justify the above posts. 

...

So I presume, according to you, "racism" is also something people use in 2018 when they have no other argument or evidence regarding the conversation either?

I presume, according to you, people use the "race/racial excuse" as to why they aren't successful and use such to blame others for their lack of misfortune?

Interesting...

At least we know who and what you are, Sweetheart.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I listen to mostly music sung by women and I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve had people comment on how I like “girl singers”. Never happens the other way around.

Ya’ll can debate the source of sexism in music, or specific genres, or the industry, but denying it exists? Yeah, that’s just stupid. Get a clue.

[Deleted]

Guy or girl, doesn't matter, they all have their goods and bads of music IMO.