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Post by Gary on Sept 21, 2018 14:14:04 GMT -5
Drake's 'Scorpion' Songs Have Spent 29 Weeks Atop the Hot 100, Breaking The Black Eyed Peas & Usher's Records
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By Trevor Anderson | September 21, 2018 2:05 PM EDT
Drake adds another honor as "In My Feelings" reigns for a 10th week.
As Drake tops the Billboard Hot 100 for a 10th week with "In My Feelings," and a record-breaking 29th week in 2018, he adds another historic feat to his resume: His Scorpion album becomes the first set to have its singles spend a new-record 29 cumulative weeks atop the chart.
Let's run this down: The three Hot 100 leaders from Scorpion thus far, "God's Plan" (11 weeks on top), "Nice for What" (eight) and "Feelings" (10), combine to give the album's singles a total of 29 weeks atop the Hot 100. That haul overtakes the previous benchmark set by Usher's Confessions and The Black Eyed Peas' The E.N.D., both of which clocked 28 weeks among their No. 1 singles.
Confessions achieved its 28-week total from four singles in 2004: "Yeah!," featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris (12 weeks), "Burn" (eight), "Confessions Part II," (two) and "My Boo," with Alicia Keys (six). The Peas equaled the mark through the trio of "Boom Boom Pow" (12 weeks), "I Gotta Feeling" (14) and "Imma Be" (two) in 2009-10.
With Scorpion now at the top of the class, here's a look at the albums whose songs have logged at least 20 weeks atop the Hot 100. Notably, the top performers have all achieved the feat following the adoption of Nielsen Music data to power the Hot 100 in 1991, as, since then, songs have averaged longer chart runs and more time at No. 1.
29 weeks, Scorpion, Drake, 2018:
"God's Plan" (11 weeks)
"Nice for What" (eight)
"In My Feelings" (10 to date)
28 weeks, The E.N.D., The Black Eyed Peas, 2009-10:
"Boom Boom Pow" (12 weeks)
"I Gotta Feeling" (14 weeks)
"Imma Be" (two weeks)
28 weeks, Confessions, Usher, 2004:
"Yeah!," featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris (12 weeks)
"Burn" (eight)
"Confessions Part II" (two)
"My Boo," with Alicia Keys (six)
26 weeks, Daydream, Mariah Carey, 1995-96:
"Fantasy" (eight)
"One Sweet Day," with Boyz II Men (16)
"Always Be My Baby" (two)
22 weeks, Supernatural, Santana, 1999-2000
"Smooth," featuring Rob Thomas (12 weeks)
"Maria Maria," featuring The Product G&B (10)
22 weeks, The Boy Is Mine, Monica, 1998-99:
"The Boy Is Mine," with Brandy (13 weeks)
"The First Night" (five)
"Angel of Mine" (four)
20 weeks, II, Boyz II Men, 1994:
"I'll Make Love to You" (14 weeks)
"On Bended Knee" (six)
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Post by Daniel Collins on Sept 21, 2018 15:09:54 GMT -5
No Katy Perry?
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 21, 2018 15:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 21, 2018 15:21:44 GMT -5
It's weird that Mariah has one album in this list.
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Post by NeRD on Sept 21, 2018 15:25:18 GMT -5
It's weird that Mariah has one album in this list. Music Box and The Emancipation of Mimi (if they include the deluxe) just missed it. |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Sept 21, 2018 15:34:31 GMT -5
I've always thought that California Gurls topped for 7 weeks (it's actually 6) that is why I thought Teenage Dream is at 20 weeks. It could've been 20 if Part of Me is counted tho.
Mariah have 3 other eras with at least 10 weeks at number one:
The Emancipation Of Mimi 14 or 16?
Music Box 12
Mariah Carey 11
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Post by do u know da wae on Sept 21, 2018 16:11:27 GMT -5
I've always thought that California Gurls topped for 7 weeks (it's actually 6) that is why I thought Teenage Dream is at 20 weeks. It could've been 20 if Part of Me is counted tho. Mariah have 3 other eras with at least 10 weeks at number one: The Emancipation Of Mimi 14 or 16? Music Box 12 Mariah Carey 11 Can u update the all-time rankings? Even if you just put a question mark next to uptown funk |
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Post by tanooki on Sept 21, 2018 18:45:57 GMT -5
I've always thought that California Gurls topped for 7 weeks (it's actually 6) that is why I thought Teenage Dream is at 20 weeks. It could've been 20 if Part of Me is counted tho. Mariah have 3 other eras with at least 10 weeks at number one: The Emancipation Of Mimi 14 or 16? Music Box 12 Mariah Carey 11 Can u update the all-time rankings? Even if you just put a question mark next to uptown funk stfu |
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Post by do u know da wae on Sept 21, 2018 19:23:46 GMT -5
Can u update the all-time rankings? Even if you just put a question mark next to uptown funk stfu ? |
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Post by iHype. on Sept 21, 2018 19:30:07 GMT -5
Lol so they include Usher's re-release #1 (My Boo) but not Katy's re-release #1 (Part of Me)?
I actually agree with the counting re-release singles separately thing but they've been hypocritical about it multiple times.
Example: them previously counting Rih's re-release #1 from GGGB to the album's original #1's, stating the album has 3 #1's.
They could make it a little less obvious they only cared about counting re-releases #1's separately when a certain album was gonna break Bad's #1s records due to such.
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Post by 85la on Sept 22, 2018 20:06:32 GMT -5
^ Yep, the same issue about the inconsistency in counting re-releases irks me. Valid arguments can be provided for both sides of whether to count them or not, especially that they tend to be a marketing tool to rack up even more sales and chart statistics, however at least a while ago, so many artists were doing it that it almost became standard practice. I actually disagree with you and ultimately believe re-releases should count along with the original album, because if we are to look at the choices, it makes more sense to lump it as part of the album than not, as most re-releases only contain a couple to a few additional songs and does not justify categorizing it as a separate, stand-alone album. If there are more commonalities between it and the original, it makes sense that it's the same album.
You're right that right around the time the Teenage Dream re-release came out and Part of Me hit #1 was when Billboard (and it seemed the music industry as a whole) made this complete about-face decision not to count re-releases as part of original albums anymore. I'm not sure if this was due to them being afraid of knocking down Michael Jackson's record and the backlash they might have received from that (he really is a powerful pop music icon if that were the case!), but that might make A LITTLE sense that they would count Confessions and not TD, since the former came out before that decision (although it doesn't make MUCH sense, because if they are revising a criteria of how to categorize albums and single releases, they would retroactively have to apply it to all albums throughout history).
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Post by Gary on Sept 22, 2018 20:12:20 GMT -5
They didn't say re-releases didn't count - they just rebranded the most hits at #1 from one album record as most hits from one "release" - noting that 'Bad' got 5 from just one release as well
Katy Perry still got the #1
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Post by 85la on Sept 24, 2018 0:12:35 GMT -5
^ No, but we were pointing out the inconsistency of them including My Boo from the re-release of Confessions in the list above, and not including Part of Me from the re-release of Teenage Dream in the list, which if they did, it would put the total weeks at #1 from that album at 20 (hence, they are treating both the original release and re-release of Confessions as one "release," but not the original release and re-release of Teenage Dream, which is inconsistent and faulty methodology). Unless you wouldn't count the re-release of Teenage Dream (titled Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection) as an actual re-release and instead a separate stand alone album, which there might be some merit to, as it did have quite a few new songs and remixes, but most of the content was the same, so I would really qualify it as a re-release of the same album. Billboard can separate original releases and re-releases if they want, but if they do they have to apply it to all albums and not cherry-pick.
But I remember I got into a similar argument about this with you a while ago and we're not likely to change our minds, so I won't press too much further lol.
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Post by Gary on Sept 24, 2018 9:10:14 GMT -5
Semantics - I don't write the articles, I just try to interpret them as they come up. You are right, they are right etc. It is all in the presentation, which they changed at Teenage Dream time. They are right in the sense of what they printed. (Counting Teenage Dream as two albums), You are right that they didn't apply it to all albums that came before it retroactively.
In any case, Teenage Dream, seemed to mark the end of the "Special Edition" with bonus tracks craze, probably not a coincidence. Was never a fan of it as if you really liked the album you had to buy it twice in many cases.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 24, 2018 9:23:14 GMT -5
^ No, but we were pointing out the inconsistency of them including My Boo from the re-release of Confessions in the list above, and not including Part of Me from the re-release of Teenage Dream in the list, which if they did, it would put the total weeks at #1 from that album at 20 (hence, they are treating both the original release and re-release of Confessions as one "release," but not the original release and re-release of Teenage Dream, which is inconsistent and faulty methodology). Unless you wouldn't count the re-release of Teenage Dream (titled Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection) as an actual re-release and instead a separate stand alone album, which there might be some merit to, as it did have quite a few new songs and remixes, but most of the content was the same, so I would really qualify it as a re-release of the same album. Billboard can separate original releases and re-releases if they want, but if they do they have to apply it to all albums and not cherry-pick.
But I remember I got into a similar argument about this with you a while ago and we're not likely to change our minds, so I won't press too much further lol.  Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection - album with the most number one songs (6) and top 10 songs (8) .and Billboard knows that |
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Post by Gary on Sept 24, 2018 9:28:50 GMT -5
What would have happened if they didn't start separating multiple releases of the same album is that the sky is the limit on the number of hits from one album, all depends on the number of "special editions"
Glad they put a stop to it.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 24, 2018 9:34:50 GMT -5
What would have happened if they didn't start separating multiple releases of the same album is that the sky is the limit on the number of hits from one album, all depends on the number of "special editions" Glad they put a stop to it. Since when this rule officially exists? |
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Post by Gary on Sept 24, 2018 9:47:23 GMT -5
Sorry, I probably wrote that wrong- there is no "rule"
Artists can still release "Deluxe" albums, "Special Edition" albums as many times as they want. In fact they still do from time to time.
At the time of "Teenage Dream" Billboard changed the way they presented albums with number one hits as a "single release" to note that Michael Jackson's original chart run was also just a single release.
Michael Jackson and Katy Perry hold the records for a "single release"
Katy Perry holds the record for an album "all releases combined"
Semantics.
Billboard likes to write about the former, the latter is true as well.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 24, 2018 10:19:37 GMT -5
If they’re going to make an article that includes albums with re-releases, it makes zero sense to be inconsistent about how re-releases are counted. There’s no reasoning as to why Usher’s counts but Katy’s doesn’t other than, oh, let’s change how we view re-release albums now because Katy would have broken an important record.
For the record, I don’t care whether they count re-releases as the same album or different. Just. Be. Consistent. Even if it means retroactively adjusting other lists or records or, hey, include it with a footnote. To make a list of the albums with the most weeks at #1 for its singles to include one re-release while avoiding others makes them look bad like they can’t even get a handle on their own stats and records. If it’s about how they’re presenting it, they’re presenting it wrong.
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