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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 29, 2018 16:02:54 GMT -5
Rihanna debuted in 2005, right when the Digital era began. She went onto to become the best-selling Digital artist ever, especially worldwide. Now, 13 years later, and as we are now in the streaming era, she has LITERALLY transitioned into being the most streamed Female artist ever and performs better than arguably of her peers on every streaming platform... But she isn't "big enough". LOL! Being the biggest female in the streaming era doesn't necessarily mean she can compete with Drake and others (i.e. males) because females have taken a hit in the streaming era. An album bomb means all tracks being streamed a lot. How did ANTI do in streaming its first week? My post isn't meant to say Rihanna can't/won't compete, just saying her being the biggest female doesn't mean a ton. didn't even hit 200K in first week. Her next album definitely won't be bigger than Scorpion. |
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 29, 2018 16:04:08 GMT -5
"Hello" broke streaming records. 25 likely would have as well, but it wasn't available for streaming for 7 months. This is Adele's third album and she isn't in the hip hop genre. Pop was dominant at the time of both releases. She will get a top 10 debut and flood the Hot 100, but nothing as much as what Scorpion did. Hip Hop was already the dominant in streaming when "Hello" dropped and broke streaming records, though. It's Adele, the industry standard of exceptions. We should absolutely never count her out. We're talking about the same artist who broke records for both streaming and digital sales with the same song on the same week. |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 16:05:53 GMT -5
Rihanna debuted in 2005, right when the Digital era began. She went onto to become the best-selling Digital artist ever, especially worldwide. Now, 13 years later, and as we are now in the streaming era, she has LITERALLY transitioned into being the most streamed Female artist ever and performs better than arguably of her peers on every streaming platform... But she isn't "big enough". LOL! Being the biggest female in the streaming era doesn't necessarily mean she can compete with Drake and others (i.e. males) because females have taken a hit in the streaming era. An album bomb means all tracks being streamed a lot. How did ANTI do in streaming its first week? My post isn't meant to say Rihanna can't/won't compete, just saying her being the biggest female doesn't mean a ton. ANTI wasn't on Spotify or Apple Music in the first week. It was only available through digital downloads and TIDAL in the first week, Apple Music and Physical sales in the first half of the second week and then Spotify later that week and heading into the third week. The ANTI release was a complete shit-show... F*cked up due to an early TIDAL leak. |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 16:08:25 GMT -5
Being the biggest female in the streaming era doesn't necessarily mean she can compete with Drake and others (i.e. males) because females have taken a hit in the streaming era. An album bomb means all tracks being streamed a lot. How did ANTI do in streaming its first week? My post isn't meant to say Rihanna can't/won't compete, just saying her being the biggest female doesn't mean a ton. didn't even hit 200K in first week. Her next album definitely won't be bigger than Scorpion. Again... ANTI wasn't on Spotify or Apple Music in the first week. It was only available through digital downloads and TIDAL in the first week, Apple Music and Physical sales in the first half of the second week and then Spotify later that week and heading into the third week. ANTI had a completely botched release because of TIDAL. Nonetheless, in SPS, it's outperformed eery Female album released after it and had far more longevity. |
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Post by Mayman on Sept 29, 2018 16:15:42 GMT -5
Being the biggest female in the streaming era doesn't necessarily mean she can compete with Drake and others (i.e. males) because females have taken a hit in the streaming era. An album bomb means all tracks being streamed a lot. How did ANTI do in streaming its first week? My post isn't meant to say Rihanna can't/won't compete, just saying her being the biggest female doesn't mean a ton. didn't even hit 200K in first week. Her next album definitely won't be bigger than Scorpion. 15k SPS and 460 sales to be exact :kii: |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 16:36:53 GMT -5
ANTI didn't even hit 200K in first week. Her next album definitely won't be bigger than Scorpion. 15k SPS and 460 sales to be exact :kii: ANTI was leaked on Wednesday night, less than an hour before the tracking week ended. As of October 2018: USA - +700K Sales / +2.9M SPS. W.W - +1.5M Sales / +5.8M SPS. :kii: |
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Post by Mayman on Sept 29, 2018 16:40:55 GMT -5
15k SPS and 460 sales to be exact  ANTI was leaked on Wednesday night, less than an hour before the tracking week ended. As of October 2018: USA - +700K Sales / +2.9M SPS. W.W - +1.4M Sales / +5.8M SPS. But that was it's first week. I never said anything about the overall numbers though, but good for her. She probably would have gotten very close to 1 million sales had she not given away so many. |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 16:44:12 GMT -5
ANTI was leaked on Wednesday night, less than an hour before the tracking week ended. As of October 2018: USA - +700K Sales / +2.9M SPS. W.W - +1.4M Sales / +5.8M SPS. But that was it's first week. I never said anything about the overall numbers though, but good for her. She probably would have gotten very close to 1 million sales had she not given away so many. We can only blame TIDAL for that. Hopefully she's learned her lesson and completely removes herself from the fraudulent travesty that is The Carters' personal service. Kanye West escaped just in time. :kii: |
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Post by amore on Sept 29, 2018 16:52:48 GMT -5
This is Adele's third album and she isn't in the hip hop genre. Pop was dominant at the time of both releases. She will get a top 10 debut and flood the Hot 100, but nothing as much as what Scorpion did. Hip Hop was already the dominant in streaming when "Hello" dropped and broke streaming records, though. It's Adele, the industry standard of exceptions. We should absolutely never count her out. We're talking about the same artist who broke records for both streaming and digital sales with the same song on the same week. Exactly. Adele is a beast. Nobody does numbers like her. She doesn't have the 1st AND 2nd best selling album of the decade for no reason. |
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Post by Keelzit on Sept 29, 2018 16:55:07 GMT -5
Did someone in the last page really claim that Rihanna is not big enough? Amongst females, she's arguably the biggest artist in the world depending on what your criteria is and if we count males, groups etc. she's still in the top 10. Her next album will be even bigger than Anti.
How is Taki Taki doing btw?
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Post by Envoirment on Sept 29, 2018 17:15:06 GMT -5
Rihanna won't do a Drake because I highly doubt she'll release an album with as many tracks. But I can see her getting most of her album top 20 on the Hot 100, with 4-5 songs top 10. She's only gotten bigger since Anti and I'm sure the material will be great. With how big streaming has gotten, I think her next album will be a massive one, especially if it has a smooth roll out.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 29, 2018 17:23:15 GMT -5
Did someone in the last page really claim that Rihanna is not big enough? Amongst females, she's arguably the biggest artist in the world depending on what your criteria is and if we count males, groups etc. she's still in the top 10. Her next album will be even bigger than Anti. The post that started the discussion asked if Rihanna's new album will be like Scorpion on the Hot 100. Comparing Rihanna to other females is not relevant to that discussion. |
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Post by aussie1 on Sept 29, 2018 17:35:17 GMT -5
Anyways.....
I wonder how hard IMF will drop the next few weeks and how long it will take to drop off the hot 100. Radio is dropping it like a rock. Also Girls like you is STILL gaining on radio, mess.
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Post by korbel16 on Sept 29, 2018 18:07:56 GMT -5
Anyways..... I wonder how hard IMF will drop the next few weeks and how long it will take to drop off the hot 100. Radio is dropping it like a rock. Also Girls like you is STILL gaining on radio, mess. it might leave after 20 weeks definitely no more than 25 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 18:29:15 GMT -5
Did someone in the last page really claim that Rihanna is not big enough? Amongst females, she's arguably the biggest artist in the world depending on what your criteria is and if we count males, groups etc. she's still in the top 10. Her next album will be even bigger than Anti. How is Taki Taki doing btw? Sold 20K copies in first day and if not for Lil Wayne album it would of been 4 on Spotify and 9 on AM |
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Post by websites on Sept 30, 2018 1:13:29 GMT -5
and kanye still hasnt fucking dropped yandhi
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Post by do u know da wae on Sept 30, 2018 1:40:41 GMT -5
Did someone in the last page really claim that Rihanna is not big enough? Amongst females, she's arguably the biggest artist in the world depending on what your criteria is and if we count males, groups etc. she's still in the top 10. Her next album will be even bigger than Anti. How is Taki Taki doing btw? Sold 20K copies in first day and if not for Lil Wayne album it would of been 4 on Spotify and 9 on AM so, not overweight, but not skinny either? |
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Post by lazer on Sept 30, 2018 1:53:38 GMT -5
This is Adele's third album and she isn't in the hip hop genre. Pop was dominant at the time of both releases. She will get a top 10 debut and flood the Hot 100, but nothing as much as what Scorpion did. and broke streaming records, though. It's Adele, the industry standard of exceptions. We should absolutely never count her out. We're talking about the same artist who broke records for both streaming and digital sales with the same song on the same week. It wasn't as dominant as right now. Back in 2015-2016, I remember a lot of non-hip hop genres topping the Spotify charts. There was Pop, R&B, EDM, and Dancehall. Nowadays, it's Trap/Soundcloud dominating almost the entire top 10. I hope later, things will diversify. |
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Post by Keelzit on Sept 30, 2018 3:24:12 GMT -5
Sold 20K copies in first day and if not for Lil Wayne album it would of been 4 on Spotify and 9 on AM so, not overweight, but not skinny either? She's a healthy little girl. I'll take that. |
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Post by renaboss on Sept 30, 2018 5:53:43 GMT -5
Lol if Rihanna flops.
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 30, 2018 5:59:47 GMT -5
Which, we all know, won't happen unless #R9 is a TIDAL exclusive and it's release is absolutely botched like ANTI's was. :kii: |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 30, 2018 6:04:15 GMT -5
In other news...
Rihanna's "GGGB" hits +1B streams on Spotify.
She now has 5 +1B streamed albums, the most among Females and she TIES Drake overall (whom has 5, soon to be 6).
This is amazing considering her catalogue is so vast.
The Streaming Queen.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 30, 2018 8:15:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 8:24:19 GMT -5
starting to enjoy sicko mode now
i have a feeling that cardi b would'nt be as popular if nicki minaj didn't exist.
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Post by amore on Sept 30, 2018 8:58:18 GMT -5
Hip Hop was already the dominant in streaming when "Hello" dropped and broke streaming records, though. It's Adele, the industry standard of exceptions. We should absolutely never count her out. We're talking about the same artist who broke records for both streaming and digital sales with the same song on the same week. It wasn't as dominant as right now. Back in 2015-2016, I remember a lot of non-hip hop genres topping the Spotify charts. There was Pop, R&B, EDM, and Dancehall. Nowadays, it's Trap/Soundcloud dominating almost the entire top 10. I hope later, things will diversify. Ok and 2017 was hip hop dominant, but guess who owned 2017? Ed sheeran. |
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Post by lazer on Sept 30, 2018 9:03:02 GMT -5
It wasn't as dominant as right now. Back in 2015-2016, I remember a lot of non-hip hop genres topping the Spotify charts. There was Pop, R&B, EDM, and Dancehall. Nowadays, it's Trap/Soundcloud dominating almost the entire top 10. I hope later, things will diversify. Ok and 2017 was hip hop dominant, but guess who owned 2017? Ed sheeran. I was talking about 2018. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 30, 2018 9:15:53 GMT -5
It wasn't as dominant as right now. Back in 2015-2016, I remember a lot of non-hip hop genres topping the Spotify charts. There was Pop, R&B, EDM, and Dancehall. Nowadays, it's Trap/Soundcloud dominating almost the entire top 10. I hope later, things will diversify. Ok and 2017 was hip hop dominant, but guess who owned 2017? Ed sheeran. Not even close to as rap dominant as 2018. And who dominated 2018? Drake... Post Malone... Travis Scott... Cardi B... XXXTentacion. All rap artists. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 30, 2018 9:25:14 GMT -5
Killshot weekly YT views are reported to have fallen from 50.1 to 14.6 million this week. Also, I Love It's fell from 19.4 to 14.6 million.
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Post by Soulsista on Sept 30, 2018 10:55:22 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
September 29, 1958 (For the week ending October 4)
01 03 It's All In The Game - Tommy Edwards (1st of 6 weeks at #1)
02 01 Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu (Volare) - Domenico Modugno
03 02 Bird Dog - The Everly Brothers
04 05 Rock-In Robin - Bobby Day
05 04 Little Star - The Elegants
06 07 Tears On My Pillow - Little Anthony & The Imperials
07 08 Susie Darlin' - Robin Luke
08 11 Summertime Blues - Eddie Cochran
09 06 Just a Dream - Jimmy Clanton & His Rockets
10 12 Near You - Roger Williams
15 49 The End - Earl Grant
October 5, 1963
01 01 Blue Velvet - Bobby Vinton (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 Sally, Go 'Round The Roses - The Jaynetts
03 03 Be My Baby - The Ronettes
04 19 Sugar Shack - Jimmy Gilmer & The Fireballs
05 09 Cry Baby - Garnet Mimms & The Enchanters
06 05 My Boyfriend's Back - The Angels
07 07 Wonderful Wonderful - The Tymes
08 04 (Love Is Like a) Heat Wave - Martha & The Vandellas
09 13 Busted - Ray Charles
10 06 Then He Kissed Me - The Crystals
October 5, 1968
01 01 Hey Jude - The Beatles (2nd of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Harper Valley P.T.A. - Jeannie C. Riley
03 05 Fire - The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown
04 20 Little Green Apples - O.C. Smith
05 09 Girl Watcher - The O'Kaysions
06 10 Slip Away - Clarence Carter
07 03 People Got To Be Free - The Rascals
08 08 I've Got To Get a Message To You - The Bee Gees
09 07 1, 2, 3, Red Light - 1910 Fruitgum Co.
10 14 I Say a Little Prayer - Aretha Franklin
October 6, 1973
01 03 Half-Breed - Cher (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 04 Loves Me Like a Rock - Paul Simon w/The Dixie Hummingbirds
03 02 Let's Get It On - Marvin Gaye
04 01 We're An American Band - Grand Funk
05 06 Higher Ground - Stevie Wonder
06 08 That Lady (Part 1) - The Isley Brothers
07 10 Ramblin' Man - The Allman Brothers Band
08 13 Angie - The Rolling Stones
09 05 Delta Dawn - Helen Reddy
10 12 Keep On Truckin' (Part 1) - Eddie Kendricks
October 7, 1978
01 01 Kiss You All Over - Exile (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Boogie Oogie Oogie - A Taste Of Honey
03 07 Hot Child In The City - Nick Gilder
04 06 Don't Look Back - Boston
05 05 Summer Nights - John Travolta, Olivia Newton-John & The Cast Of Grease
06 08 Reminiscing - The Little River Band
07 03 Hopelessly Devoted To You - Olivia Newton-John
08 09 Love Is In The Air - John Paul Young
09 11 You Needed Me - Anne Murray
10 12 Whenever I Call You "Friend" - Kenny Loggins (w/Stevie Nicks)
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Post by Soulsista on Sept 30, 2018 11:25:29 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
October 8, 1983
01 01 Total Eclipse Of The Heart - Bonnie Tyler (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 04 Making Love Out Of Nothing At All - Air Supply
03 06 King Of Pain - The Police
04 07 True - Spandau Ballet
05 05 (She's) Sexy + 17 - The Stray Cats
06 09 Islands In The Stream - Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton
07 02 Tell Her About It - Billy Joel
08 03 The Safety Dance - Men Without Hats
09 17 On Thing Leads To Another - The Fixx
10 10 Far From Over - Frank Stallone
October 8, 1988
01 02 Love Bites - Def Leppard (1st and only week at #1)
02 05 Red Red Wine - UB40
03 01 Don't Worry, Be Happy - Bobby McFerrin
04 06 Don't Be Cruel - Cheap Trick
05 04 One Good Woman - Peter Cetera
06 14 Groovy Kind Of Love - Phil Collins
07 03 I'll Always Love You - Taylor Dayne
08 08 I Hate Myself For Loving You - Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
09 10 What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy) - Information Society
10 12 Please Don't Go Girl - New Kids On The Block
October 9, 1993
01 01 Dreamlover - Mariah Carey (5th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Right Here (Human Nature) / Downtown - SWV
03 03 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team
04 04 The River Of Dreams - Billy Joel
05 05 If - Janet Jackson
06 06 Can't Help Falling In Love - UB40
07 08 Another Sad Love Song - Toni Braxton
08 07 Will You Be There - Michael Jackson
09 25 I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) - Meat Loaf
10 09 Runaway Train - Soul Asylum
13 36 Just Kickin' It - Xscape
21 42 All That She Wants - Ace Of Base
23 44 Anniversary - Tony! Toni! Tone!
October 3, 1998
01 02 The First Night - Monica (1st of 5 weeks at #1)
02 01 I Don't Want To Miss a Thing - Aerosmith
03 NE One Week - Barenaked Ladies
04 03 Crush - Jennifer Paige
05 07 I'll Be - Edwin McCain
06 04 My Way - Usher
07 06 Time After Time - INOJ
08 05 The Boy Is Mine - Brandy & Monica
09 08 Daydreamin' - Tatyana Ali
10 11 When The Lights Go Out - Five
21 NE Westside - TQ
26 NE Because Of You - 98 Degrees
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