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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 29, 2018 12:46:56 GMT -5
I'm convinced that 2018 is the year of 2000s rappers comeback. I'm convinced that 2018 is the best year ever. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 29, 2018 12:53:17 GMT -5
Hey do you think Rihanna and Adeles new album will be like Scorpion on the Hot 100. Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. Don't count Rihanna out, she has the streaming crowd on her side. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 29, 2018 12:57:06 GMT -5
Hey do you think Rihanna and Adeles new album will be like Scorpion on the Hot 100. Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. Which is where the weakness remains with the Hot 100. |
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Post by lazer on Sept 29, 2018 12:58:33 GMT -5
Hey do you think Rihanna and Adeles new album will be like Scorpion on the Hot 100. Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. Rihanna is a streaming power. Her next album may not have the numbers that Scorpion has but it'll be pretty big. I remember when Adele released Hello, it did really well on Spotify. |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 13:02:23 GMT -5
Hey do you think Rihanna and Adeles new album will be like Scorpion on the Hot 100. Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. LMFAO. What are you talking about? Rihanna is the "Most Streamed Female Artist Ever" on Spotify + Apple Music + YouTube, both with AND without features. She was Spotify's "Top Global Streamed Female Artist" for THREE consecutive years, between 2015-2017. She also has a cumulative 35B+ streams on the platform and is only second to Drake. Also, on Spotify, she has 5 1B+ streamed albums. Only Drake has more with 6. Come again... |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 13:06:16 GMT -5
Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. Rihanna is a streaming power. Her next album may not have the numbers that Scorpion has but it'll be pretty big. I remember when Adele released Hello, it did really well on Spotify. Imagine thinking Rihanna isn't "big enough". LMAO!!! |
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Post by amore on Sept 29, 2018 13:08:54 GMT -5
2018 is definitely the strangest year we've had in a long time, the strangest of the decade for sure. From the top of my head; 5 Seconds Of Summer and Tyga managed to get huge hits after years of poor chart performance, Eminem has 3 Top 10 hits and a huge album after flopping hard only 9 months ago, Kanye West and Lil Pump have a hit together, Taylor Swift flopped and came back in the same album cycle, BTS have a Top 10 hit, Lil Dicky has a Top 10 hit, Micheal Jackson has a Top 10 hit, Maroon 5 has another #1, Travis Scott's album debuted with 500k, and XXXTentacion has a #1 hit. Don't forget Cardi B having 2 #1 hot 100 hits. |
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Post by amore on Sept 29, 2018 13:10:14 GMT -5
Rihanna is a streaming power. Her next album may not have the numbers that Scorpion has but it'll be pretty big. I remember when Adele released Hello, it did really well on Spotify. Imagine thinking Rihanna isn't "big enough". LMAO!!! Ikr. Rihanna is arguably bigger than Drake. Adele is bigger than both. We don't call her Hurricane Adele for no reason. |
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Post by amore on Sept 29, 2018 13:13:48 GMT -5
Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. LMFAO. What are you talking about? Rihanna is the "Most Streamed Female Artist Ever" on Spotify + Apple Music + YouTube, both with AND without features. She was Spotify's "Top Global Streamed Female Artist" for THREE consecutive years, between 2015-2017. She also has a cumulative 35B+ streams on the platform and is only second to Drake. Also, on Spotify, she has 5 1B+ streamed albums. Only Drake has more with 6. Come again... Rihanna is arguably bigger than Drake tbh. Especially considering she had huge hits before the Spotify era. Drake never really had worldwide hits until the spotify era. |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 13:19:38 GMT -5
Rihanna debuted in 2005, right when the Digital era began.
She went onto to become the best-selling Digital artist ever, especially worldwide.
Now, 13 years later, and as we are now in the streaming era, she has LITERALLY transitioned into being the most streamed Female artist ever and performs better than arguably of her peers on every streaming platform...
But she isn't "big enough".
LOL!
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 13:26:32 GMT -5
LMFAO. What are you talking about? Rihanna is the "Most Streamed Female Artist Ever" on Spotify + Apple Music + YouTube, both with AND without features. She was Spotify's "Top Global Streamed Female Artist" for THREE consecutive years, between 2015-2017. She also has a cumulative 35B+ streams on the platform and is only second to Drake. Also, on Spotify, she has 5 1B+ streamed albums. Only Drake has more with 6. Come again... Rihanna is arguably bigger than Drake tbh. Especially considering she had huge hits before the Spotify era. Drake never really had worldwide hits until the spotify era. Well, Drake is just as much of a FORCE as Rihanna, Adele, Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran. They all have their primary strengths and he was always "bigger" in North America. However... The only reason why he never scored number-ones early in the decade was due to a lack of T40 airplay among Hip-Hop/Urban-centric acts (which was very much a dominant metric) and the fact that iTunes was monopolised by Pop/Dance music. Now that we're in the streaming era, he's FLORISHING like no other and never before. The one who I'm confused about not getting hits is Nick Minaj. LOL. She surely should have had a number-one given the heavy Urban musical climate by now but... alas. I don't think she'll ever get one. |
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Post by Mayman on Sept 29, 2018 13:27:14 GMT -5
Don't forget Mariah got her 28th top 10 on the last week of 2017 and it stayed in the top 10 for another week this year. She was also top 10 this year on "Emotionless" (although as a sample).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 14:24:01 GMT -5
Rihanna debuted in 2005, right when the Digital era began. She went onto to become the best-selling Digital artist ever, especially worldwide. Now, 13 years later, and as we are now in the streaming era, she has LITERALLY transitioned into being the most streamed Female artist ever and performs better than arguably of her peers on every streaming platform... But she isn't "big enough". LOL! She isn't big enough to have 7 songs in the top ten at once and 27 songs charting in a week |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 29, 2018 14:25:57 GMT -5
2018 is definitely the strangest year we've had in a long time, the strangest of the decade for sure. From the top of my head; 5 Seconds Of Summer and Tyga managed to get huge hits after years of poor chart performance, Eminem has 3 Top 10 hits and a huge album after flopping hard only 9 months ago, Kanye West and Lil Pump have a hit together, Taylor Swift flopped and came back in the same album cycle, BTS have a Top 10 hit, Lil Dicky has a Top 10 hit, Micheal Jackson has a Top 10 hit, Maroon 5 has another #1, Travis Scott's album debuted with 500k, and XXXTentacion has a #1 hit. I'm sorry to disagree with your use of the term "hit". Those top 10 debuts that had no longevity I wouldn't them label as such but rather as one-week wonders. But I do respect your definition of it.
I do agree there have been some surprises. One of them was having 7 Country songs in the top 40 of the Hot 100 just a few weeks back and now there's a possibility there will be none once Meant to Be goes recurrent.
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Post by noober on Sept 29, 2018 14:35:38 GMT -5
God's plan, Perfect, Sad, the middle, NFW, Tequila, and maybe I like me better
Will be out next week
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Post by fhas on Sept 29, 2018 14:39:52 GMT -5
According to alexanderao (ATRL user): Mona Lisa had the biggest day of all-time on U.S. Spotify for a non-Drake song:
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 29, 2018 14:50:34 GMT -5
Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. LMFAO. What are you talking about? Rihanna is the "Most Streamed Female Artist Ever" on Spotify + Apple Music + YouTube, both with AND without features. She was Spotify's "Top Global Streamed Female Artist" for THREE consecutive years, between 2015-2017. She also has a cumulative 35B+ streams on the platform and is only second to Drake. Also, on Spotify, she has 5 1B+ streamed albums. Only Drake has more with 6. Come again... Hip Hop is the most dominant genre right now. Rihanna is not hip hop. The album will not do as well. 500K first week is possible but i couldn’t see her doing better on streaming than Drake. |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 14:57:41 GMT -5
Rihanna debuted in 2005, right when the Digital era began. She went onto to become the best-selling Digital artist ever, especially worldwide. Now, 13 years later, and as we are now in the streaming era, she has LITERALLY transitioned into being the most streamed Female artist ever and performs better than arguably of her peers on every streaming platform... But she isn't "big enough". LOL! She isn't big enough to have 7 songs in the top ten at once and 27 songs charting in a week LMAO! Who gives a f*ck about that particular accomplishment outside of us chart-watchers? Prior to Drake achieving such in 2018, The Beatles in 1964 (54+ years ago) were the only acts to have that amount of songs in the top ten at once. How many record-breaking, best-selling musical artists have debuted within the last five decades that hadn't/haven't achieved such? Does that make them any less "big"? I doubt Billboard's "10th Greatest Hot 100 Artist", with 14 #1 singles/31 top tens, is pondering on how many songs she hopes will debut in the top 10 of the Hot 100 with her next release in the first week. Furthermore, nobody said that she would match Drake in that regard anyway so why even highlight that? |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 15:05:10 GMT -5
LMFAO. What are you talking about? Rihanna is the "Most Streamed Female Artist Ever" on Spotify + Apple Music + YouTube, both with AND without features. She was Spotify's "Top Global Streamed Female Artist" for THREE consecutive years, between 2015-2017. She also has a cumulative 35B+ streams on the platform and is only second to Drake. Also, on Spotify, she has 5 1B+ streamed albums. Only Drake has more with 6. Come again... Hip Hop is the most dominant genre right now. Rihanna is not hip hop. The album will not do as well. 500K first week is possible but i couldn’t see her doing better on streaming than Drake. Yes. That's true, but I don't think anyone in their right mind is expecting Rihanna to suddenly break Drake's streaming record and nobody said she would. 1) Rihanna is a streaming beast but she isn't a Hop-Hop act, as you said. 2) She's only released 1 album in the streaming era and that wasn't even available on Spotify in its first week out. The extent of R9's #'s will solely depend on how she and her label promote the album, and we all know Rihanna can be careless and loves to sabotage herself so... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 15:08:50 GMT -5
She isn't big enough to have 7 songs in the top ten at once and 27 songs charting in a week LMAO! Who gives a f*ck about that particular accomplishment outside of us chart-watchers? Prior to Drake achieving such in 2018, The Beatles in 1964 (54+ years ago) were the only acts to have that amount of songs in the top ten at once. How many record-breaking, best-selling musical artists have debuted within the last five decades that hadn't/haven't achieved such? Does that make them any less "big"? I doubt Billboard's "10th Greatest Hot 100 Artist", with 14 #1 singles/31 top tens, is pondering on how many songs she hopes will debut in the top 10 of the Hot 100 with her next release in the first week. Furthermore, nobody said that she would match Drake in that regard anyway so why even highlight that? Amore said that rihanna would have a Scorpion like album bomb and people have been stating that's she just not big enough for that, which in turned caused you to freak out. |
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Post by lazer on Sept 29, 2018 15:12:04 GMT -5
Hopefully, Rihanna doesn't do trap and make something unique in the next album. Rihanna doesn't follow trends, she makes trends.
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 15:12:05 GMT -5
I wonder if Wayne's album will be frontloaded?
Tomorrow will tell the story but I hope not...
I really like the album so far.
Ashanti; Nivea etc. = The REVIVAL of 2000's R&B Queens/Princesses.
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 15:13:53 GMT -5
Hopefully, Rihanna doesn't do trap and make something unique in the next album. Rihanna doesn't follow trends, she makes trends. Well, it was all over twitter last night that some DJ (big in the non-mainstream EDM scene) said she's making a "dance" heavy album, and apparently Diplo responded to it... I honestly don't know what to believe. I just want the era to start. I was hoping for a lead single in October. nnnnn |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 29, 2018 15:20:33 GMT -5
Hip Hop is the most dominant genre right now. Rihanna is not hip hop. The album will not do as well. 500K first week is possible but i couldn’t see her doing better on streaming than Drake. Yes. That's true, but I don't think anyone in their right mind is expecting Rihanna to suddenly break Drake's streaming record and nobody said she would. 1) Rihanna is a streaming beast but she isn't a Hop-Hop act, as you said. 2) She's only released 1 album in the streaming era and that wasn't even available on Spotify in its first week out. The extent of R9's #'s will solely depend on how she and her label promote the album, and we all know Rihanna can be careless and loves to sabotage herself so... Exactly. I’m not saying her era won’t be successful. It just won’t be anything near the Scorpion era. It was one of the most successful Hot 100 albums of all time and produced 3 huge #1s singles. |
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 29, 2018 15:39:23 GMT -5
Yes. That's true, but I don't think anyone in their right mind is expecting Rihanna to suddenly break Drake's streaming record and nobody said she would. 1) Rihanna is a streaming beast but she isn't a Hop-Hop act, as you said. 2) She's only released 1 album in the streaming era and that wasn't even available on Spotify in its first week out. The extent of R9's #'s will solely depend on how she and her label promote the album, and we all know Rihanna can be careless and loves to sabotage herself so... Exactly. I’m not saying her era won’t be successful. It just won’t be anything near the Scorpion era. It was one of the most successful Hot 100 albums of all time and produced 3 huge #1s singles. She already has two albums that produced three #1's... So it's safe to say that phase of her career hs passed although we never know with Rihanna. If R9's release method is anything like Scorpion then hopefully she will garner multiple #1's prior to album release, or if it's like her other last three eras then hopefully she'll promote after the lead single/second single has finished becoming a hit so that the latter singles are just as huge. |
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Post by DJ General on Sept 29, 2018 15:42:36 GMT -5
I feel like Weezy did Ashanti dirty. All she does is basically moan on a track lol She needed more
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 29, 2018 15:55:51 GMT -5
I feel like Weezy did Ashanti dirty. All she does is basically moan on a track lol She needed more I like it like that lol. And at least he will give Ashanti her first charting song in almost 10 years. |
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 29, 2018 15:57:34 GMT -5
Hey do you think Rihanna and Adeles new album will be like Scorpion on the Hot 100. Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. "Hello" broke streaming records. 25 likely would have as well, but it wasn't available for streaming for 7 months. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 29, 2018 15:59:56 GMT -5
Rihanna debuted in 2005, right when the Digital era began. She went onto to become the best-selling Digital artist ever, especially worldwide. Now, 13 years later, and as we are now in the streaming era, she has LITERALLY transitioned into being the most streamed Female artist ever and performs better than arguably of her peers on every streaming platform... But she isn't "big enough". LOL! Being the biggest female in the streaming era doesn't necessarily mean she can compete with Drake and others (i.e. males) because females have taken a hit in the streaming era. An album bomb means all tracks being streamed a lot. How did ANTI do in streaming its first week? My post isn't meant to say Rihanna can't/won't compete, just saying her being the biggest female doesn't mean a ton. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 29, 2018 16:01:11 GMT -5
Nope. Rihanna isn’t big enough and Adele is more sale-powered than streaming. "Hello" broke streaming records. 25 likely would have as well, but it wasn't available for streaming for 7 months. This is Adele's third album and she isn't in the hip hop genre. Pop was dominant at the time of both releases. She will get a top 10 debut and flood the Hot 100, but nothing as much as what Scorpion did. |
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